Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion
Posted: 18 Jul 2014 05:43
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Conquer – After the IDF completes the "softening" of the targets with its fire-power, the IDF will conquer the entire Gaza, using all the means necessary to minimize any harm to our soldiers, with no other considerations.
Elimination- The GSS and IDF will thoroughly eliminate all armed enemies from Gaza. The enemy population that is innocent of wrong-doing and separated itself from the armed terrorists will be treated in accordance with international law and will be allowed to leave. Israel will generously aid those who wish to leave.
Sovereignty – Gaza is part of our Land and we will remain there forever. Liberation of parts of our land forever is the only thing that justifies endangering our soldiers in battle to capture land. Subsequent to the elimination of terror from Gaza, it will become part of sovereign Israel and will be populated by Jews. This will also serve to ease the housing crisis in Israel. The coastal train line will be extended, as soon as possible, to reach the entire length of Gaza.
According to polls, most of the Arabs in Gaza wish to leave. Those who were not involved in anti-Israel activity will be offered a generous international emigration package. Those who choose to remain will receive permanent resident status. After a number of years of living in Israel and becoming accustomed to it, contingent on appropriate legislation in the Knesset and the authorization of the Minister of Interior, those who personally accept upon themselves Israel’s rule, substance and way of life of the Jewish State in its Land, will be offered Israeli citizenship.
The Regimental Centre of Mysore Lancers still exists, but as the Parachute Regiment Training Centre (PRTC) at Bangalore.Vipul wrote:Mysoreans who won Battle of Haifa and helped in the creation of Israel.
Israel has clearly stated the goal of 'Operation Protective Edge' is to dismantle terror tunnel network that smuggles in arms and ammunition which are routinely used against Israeli towns and cities by Hamas. If depopulating Gaza was the intention, then Israel wouldn't be using ground forces in a densely populated urban area, instead they would employ heavy bombers and turn the strip into pulp. Hamas started the war by first kidnapping 3 Israelis and then starting a relentless barrage of rockets. Hamas just like Hezbollah cares little about civilian casualties since most of the terror bosses sit in posh offices in Qatar/Tehran.K Mehta wrote:While we would like to support Israel, we should keep our eyes open as to what its actions are. True friends dont hesitate to tell each other what they are doing wrong.
The current actions of IDF support the Knesset speaker's solution being implemented. The current actions dont look like a retaliation against killing of 3 youths, but much much bigger moves on the ground. If IDF is truly thinking of depopulating the gaza strip, the costs would be quite high and the future repercussions will be enormous.
Instead of analyzing the religious and other aspects, shouldn't we at BR be analyzing the strategy and future aspects?
India’s parliament rejected a resolution today that condemned the Israeli military campaign in Gaza—a conspicuous change for the country.
For the last few days, there have been some protests across India against the current Israeli operation in Palestine. The capital, New Delhi, witnessed a solidarity march, which included students and civil rights activists. Police, however, prevented the demonstrators from reaching the Israeli Embassy, leading to complaints of heavyhandedness as some of the protestors were injured.But there have been far fewer protests in India, and less outcry in general, than history suggests there would be. According to the Diplomat article, “the current crisis in the Middle East has failed to generate any debate in a majority of television channels and major newspapers in India.” Traditionally, Indians have identified with the Palestinians, seeing them as fellow resisters against colonial powers
Replace Putin with Obama in the article and it would be factually correct. Typical ex-Foggy Bottom peddled BS farticle.Jhujar wrote:WRM Pontification
India Refuses to Censure IsraelIndia’s parliament rejected a resolution today that condemned the Israeli military campaign in Gaza—a conspicuous change for the country.
For the last few days, there have been some protests across India against the current Israeli operation in Palestine. The capital, New Delhi, witnessed a solidarity march, which included students and civil rights activists. Police, however, prevented the demonstrators from reaching the Israeli Embassy, leading to complaints of heavyhandedness as some of the protestors were injured.But there have been far fewer protests in India, and less outcry in general, than history suggests there would be. According to the Diplomat article, “the current crisis in the Middle East has failed to generate any debate in a majority of television channels and major newspapers in India.” Traditionally, Indians have identified with the Palestinians, seeing them as fellow resisters against colonial powers
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... israel-idf
UN chief Ban Ki-moon called the Shijaiyah shelling 'an atrocious action'
Adam Withnall
Monday 21 July 2014
The US Secretary of State John Kerry has flown out to the Middle East after Sunday saw the deaths of two Americans among the 13 Israeli soldiers and more than 100 Palestinians killed in the deadliest day of the conflict so far.
Last night the UN Security Council held an emergency closed-door meeting to discuss the worsening crisis, where members expressed alarm at the rapid escalation of violence and rising death toll in Gaza.
This morning Palestinian health officials said its recorded number of dead had passed 500 for the first time, after 20 more bodies were pulled from the rubble of a single flattened home in the city of Khan Younis.
In total there have been 20 Israeli deaths, including two civilians killed by cross-border shelling.
On Sunday night, the US State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki confirmed the identities of two Americans killed while fighting for the Israeli Defence Forces.
Max Steinberg, 24, was described by his family in California as a sharpshooter for the Golani Brigade of the Israeli infantry. Nissim Carmeli, 21, was a sergeant from Texas who moved to Israel four years ago.
Ms Psaki said that both President Barack Obama and Mr Kerry joined the UN in calling for an immediate ceasefire.
Video: 'If you stay at home, you'll die...'
She said the US and its international partners were “deeply concerned about the risk of further escalation and the loss of more innocent life”.
Mr Obama spoke to the Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, in a phone call on Sunday to discuss plans for Mr Kerry’s arrival in Cairo, the White House said. It added that the US condemned Hamas’s continued firing of rockets into Israel.
Palestinian mourners pray over five bodies, all from the Halaq family, during their funeral in the Jabalia refugee camp, in the Gaza Strip, on 21 July 2014 Palestinian mourners pray over five bodies, all from the Halaq family, during their funeral in the Jabalia refugee camp, in the Gaza Strip, on 21 July 2014 (Getty) But while discussions for a ceasefire in Egypt have been firmly backed by the US and Israel, Palestinians have turned to Qatar and Turkey to put forward an alternative proposal. There is distrust in Gaza of the leadership in Cairo after it ousted the pro-Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood-led government last year.
The UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon had already been due to travel the region this week to try to revive ceasefire efforts, and described yesterday’s shelling of the Shijaiyah district in Gaza City as “an atrocious action”.
An Israeli rocket is fired into northern Gaza strip (REUTERS) An Israeli rocket is fired into northern Gaza strip (REUTERS) The UN relief agency in Gaza estimates that 70,000 Palestinians have fled their homes in the fighting and are seeking shelter in schools and other shelters set up by the UN.
The Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called it a “massacre” and said the Israeli offensive involving tanks, infantry units, missiles from the air and sea and the reported use of flechette shells as a “crime against humanity”.
Banjamin Netanyahu has said Hamas doesn't Banjamin Netanyahu has said Hamas doesn't "give a whit about the Palestinians" (AP) The Israeli military said it targeted Shijaiyah to combat what it described as a Hamas stronghold, and to destroy a network of tunnels leading to Israel that have become “like the Underground”.
Speaking in a broadcast on Israeli national TV on Sunday, Mr Netanyahu said the goal was to “restore a sustainable quiet” and ultimately “demilitarise Gaza”.
He said the offensive would continue “as long as necessary” to end rocket attacks from Gaza.
Perhaps now the GOI/MEA will spring into action with a suitable plea forcessation of hostilities? That's the least we can do instead of continuing to act like the 3 proverbial monkeys and remain true to the "ostrich" style of diplomacy that replaced the "Nehruvian" style thanks to Subedar Surrender Singh and his team of quislings.A hospital was shelled, killing and injuring staff and patients, and up to 28 members of one family died in an air strike as Gaza endured another day of relentless bloodshed on Monday .
As heavy shelling and fighting on the ground continued, the US president, Barack Obama, restated his call for an immediate ceasefire, saying: "We don't want to see any more civilians killed."
He said he had authorised his secretary of state, John Kerry, to do "everything he can to help facilitate a cessation of hostilities" in a sign that international diplomacy had been galvanised by the weekend carnage in Shujai'iya.
Kerry was en route to Cairo for urgent talks with key players in the region, including the UN secretary-general, Ban Ki-moon. The UN security council called for an immediate ceasefire on Sunday.
Kerry pledged yesterday that the US would provide $47m (£28m) in humanitarian aid to help Palestinians. He said: "We are deeply concerned about the consequences of Israel's appropriate and legitimate effort to defend itself."
In Deir al-Balah in central Gaza, al-Aqsa hospital became the third to be struck in the 14-day conflict when three shells slammed into the intensive care unit, surgical and administrative areas. Five people were killed and 70 wounded, including about 30 medics, according to Gaza health officials. Ambulances tried to evacuate patients but were forced to turn back by continued shelling. Israel has claimed that Hamas hides weapons in hospitals.
Barack Obama says he is focused on a ceasefire. Link to video: Barack Obama: we are focused on Israel-Gaza ceasefire
Further south, in Khan Younis, an extended family was wiped out in an air strike on a house. The number of dead was put at between 24 and 28. The Palestinian Centre for Human Rights said another 10 people were killed in a single air strike in Rafah, including four young children and a baby.
Save the Children said that, on average, seven had been killed every day during the conflict. "For many children, this is the third war in six years that they are going through," said the charity's David Hassell.
Israeli troops said they killed 10 Hamas militants as they attempted a cross-border attack using two tunnels. The Israel Defence Forces said seven soldiers had been killed in the 24 hours up to early evening.
Intense rocket fire from Gaza continued, with sirens warning people in Tel Aviv and other towns in central and southern Israel to seek shelter. The IDF said it was investigating Hamas claims that it captured an Israeli soldier on Sunday. Hamas displayed a photo ID, saying the soldier's name was Shaul Aron. Street celebrations erupted in Gaza at the news, with people chanting "Allahu Akbar" and lighting fireworks. If the capture of an Israeli is confirmed, it will complicate efforts to broker a ceasefire.
"We advise [Israel] to take their soldiers and leave before we kidnap more soldiers in addition to the scores we have already killed and wounded," said Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri.
Palestinians pray over green flag-draped bodies Palestinians pray over the bodies of 17 members of the Abu Jamea family, killed by an air strike. Photograph: Hatem Ali/AP
The number of Palestinians killed in the conflict reached 530 by early evening, 72% of whom were civilians according to the UN. Twenty-seven Israelis – 25 soldiers and two civilians – have died. The UN said more than 100,000 people had fled their homes, including 85,000 people who sought shelter in schools.
Ten Israeli human rights organisations have written to the attorney-general to raise concerns about grave violations of international law in the conflict. They questioned the legality of Sunday's operation in Shujai'iya, "in particular, the potential violation of the fundamental principles of the laws of war, specifically the principle of distinguishing between combatants and civilians".
Israel's prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, the defence minister, Moshe Ya'alon, and chief of staff, Benny Gantz – the men directing the military operation in Gaza – said in a statement it would expand and continue "as long as necessary until the completion of the task". Israel has said the goal of the ground invasion is to locate and destroy dozens of tunnels under the border, used by militants to launch attacks.
Ban Ki-moon and Sameh Shukri in Egypt Egyptian foreign minister Sameh Shukri, right, and UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon in Egypt. Ban has urged an immediate ceasefire. Photograph: Amr Nabil/AP
In Cairo, Ban held talks with Egyptian president Abdel-Fattah al-Sisi and the head of the Arab League. The Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas was due to meet Hamas's leader-in-exile Khaled Mishal in Doha.
Egypt's proximity to Gaza, its peace treaty with Israel and good relations with the western-backed Palestinian Authority in the West Bank have made it the focus of attempts to defuse the crisis, though its relations with Hamas – which it sees as an offshoot of the banned Muslim Brotherhood – are hostile.
Hamas rejected Cairo's original ceasefire proposal last week, though a senior official said Egypt might be willing to amend its initiative. "Egypt does not mind adding some of Hamas's conditions provided that all involved parties approve," the official told Reuters. Hamas is demanding an end to the blockade of Gaza, an end to hostilities, opening the border to Egypt, the release of prisoners held by Israel and other conditions – in exchange for a truce.
Ismail Haniyeh, the former Hamas prime minister, claimed that Israeli forces were being beaten in Gaza. "The Palestinian resistance will meet the demands and expectations of the Palestinian people," he said, adding that the Hamas conditions were "the minimum demands" for any truce.
"Our people's sacrifices are heading for triumph," he said in a pre-recorded TV broadcast. "We see the al-Qassam Brigades and the Jerusalem Brigades and all resistance factions beating the enemy and attack him again and again, under the earth and sea. The ground operation is a declaration of failure on the part of the enemy aerial war against Gaza."
Mishal was due to speak later, fuelling speculation about a possible "victory" speech that could pave the way for acceptance of a ceasefire.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... israel-idf
UN chief Ban Ki-moon called the Shijaiyah shelling 'an atrocious action'
Adam Withnall
Monday 21 July 2014
The US Secretary of State John Kerry has flown out to the Middle East after Sunday saw the deaths of two Americans among the 13 Israeli soldiers and more than 100 Palestinians killed in the deadliest day of the conflict so far.
Last night the UN Security Council held an emergency closed-door meeting to discuss the worsening crisis, where members expressed alarm at the rapid escalation of violence and rising death toll in Gaza.
This morning Palestinian health officials said its recorded number of dead had passed 500 for the first time, after 20 more bodies were pulled from the rubble of a single flattened home in the city of Khan Younis.
In total there have been 20 Israeli deaths, including two civilians killed by cross-border shelling.
On Sunday night, the US State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki confirmed the identities of two Americans killed while fighting for the Israeli Defence Forces.
Max Steinberg, 24, was described by his family in California as a sharpshooter for the Golani Brigade of the Israeli infantry. Nissim Carmeli, 21, was a sergeant from Texas who moved to Israel four years ago.
Ms Psaki said that both President Barack Obama and Mr Kerry joined the UN in calling for an immediate ceasefire.
Video: 'If you stay at home, you'll die...'
She said the US and its international partners were “deeply concerned about the risk of further escalation and the loss of more innocent life”.
Mr Obama spoke to the Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, in a phone call on Sunday to discuss plans for Mr Kerry’s arrival in Cairo, the White House said. It added that the US condemned Hamas’s continued firing of rockets into Israel.
Palestinian mourners pray over five bodies, all from the Halaq family, during their funeral in the Jabalia refugee camp, in the Gaza Strip, on 21 July 2014 Palestinian mourners pray over five bodies, all from the Halaq family, during their funeral in the Jabalia refugee camp, in the Gaza Strip, on 21 July 2014 (Getty) But while discussions for a ceasefire in Egypt have been firmly backed by the US and Israel, Palestinians have turned to Qatar and Turkey to put forward an alternative proposal. There is distrust in Gaza of the leadership in Cairo after it ousted the pro-Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood-led government last year.
The UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon had already been due to travel the region this week to try to revive ceasefire efforts, and described yesterday’s shelling of the Shijaiyah district in Gaza City as “an atrocious action”.
An Israeli rocket is fired into northern Gaza strip (REUTERS) An Israeli rocket is fired into northern Gaza strip (REUTERS) The UN relief agency in Gaza estimates that 70,000 Palestinians have fled their homes in the fighting and are seeking shelter in schools and other shelters set up by the UN.
The Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called it a “massacre” and said the Israeli offensive involving tanks, infantry units, missiles from the air and sea and the reported use of flechette shells as a “crime against humanity”.
Banjamin Netanyahu has said Hamas doesn't Banjamin Netanyahu has said Hamas doesn't "give a whit about the Palestinians" (AP) The Israeli military said it targeted Shijaiyah to combat what it described as a Hamas stronghold, and to destroy a network of tunnels leading to Israel that have become “like the Underground”.
Speaking in a broadcast on Israeli national TV on Sunday, Mr Netanyahu said the goal was to “restore a sustainable quiet” and ultimately “demilitarise Gaza”.
He said the offensive would continue “as long as necessary” to end rocket attacks from Gaza.
Perhaps now the GOI/MEA will spring into action with a suitable plea for cessation of hostilities? That's the least we can do instead of continuing to act like the 3 proverbial monkeys and remain true to the "ostrich" style of diplomacy that replaced the "Nehruvian" style thanks to Subedar Surrender Singh and his team of quislings.A hospital was shelled, killing and injuring staff and patients, and up to 28 members of one family died in an air strike as Gaza endured another day of relentless bloodshed on Monday .
As heavy shelling and fighting on the ground continued, the US president, Barack Obama, restated his call for an immediate ceasefire, saying: "We don't want to see any more civilians killed."
He said he had authorised his secretary of state, John Kerry, to do "everything he can to help facilitate a cessation of hostilities" in a sign that international diplomacy had been galvanised by the weekend carnage in Shujai'iya.
Kerry was en route to Cairo for urgent talks with key players in the region, including the UN secretary-general, Ban Ki-moon. The UN security council called for an immediate ceasefire on Sunday.
Kerry pledged yesterday that the US would provide $47m (£28m) in humanitarian aid to help Palestinians. He said: "We are deeply concerned about the consequences of Israel's appropriate and legitimate effort to defend itself."
In Deir al-Balah in central Gaza, al-Aqsa hospital became the third to be struck in the 14-day conflict when three shells slammed into the intensive care unit, surgical and administrative areas. Five people were killed and 70 wounded, including about 30 medics, according to Gaza health officials. Ambulances tried to evacuate patients but were forced to turn back by continued shelling. Israel has claimed that Hamas hides weapons in hospitals.
Barack Obama says he is focused on a ceasefire. Link to video: Barack Obama: we are focused on Israel-Gaza ceasefire
Further south, in Khan Younis, an extended family was wiped out in an air strike on a house. The number of dead was put at between 24 and 28. The Palestinian Centre for Human Rights said another 10 people were killed in a single air strike in Rafah, including four young children and a baby.
Save the Children said that, on average, seven had been killed every day during the conflict. "For many children, this is the third war in six years that they are going through," said the charity's David Hassell.
Israeli troops said they killed 10 Hamas militants as they attempted a cross-border attack using two tunnels. The Israel Defence Forces said seven soldiers had been killed in the 24 hours up to early evening.
Intense rocket fire from Gaza continued, with sirens warning people in Tel Aviv and other towns in central and southern Israel to seek shelter. The IDF said it was investigating Hamas claims that it captured an Israeli soldier on Sunday. Hamas displayed a photo ID, saying the soldier's name was Shaul Aron. Street celebrations erupted in Gaza at the news, with people chanting "Allahu Akbar" and lighting fireworks. If the capture of an Israeli is confirmed, it will complicate efforts to broker a ceasefire.
"We advise [Israel] to take their soldiers and leave before we kidnap more soldiers in addition to the scores we have already killed and wounded," said Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri.
Palestinians pray over green flag-draped bodies Palestinians pray over the bodies of 17 members of the Abu Jamea family, killed by an air strike. Photograph: Hatem Ali/AP
The number of Palestinians killed in the conflict reached 530 by early evening, 72% of whom were civilians according to the UN. Twenty-seven Israelis – 25 soldiers and two civilians – have died. The UN said more than 100,000 people had fled their homes, including 85,000 people who sought shelter in schools.
Ten Israeli human rights organisations have written to the attorney-general to raise concerns about grave violations of international law in the conflict. They questioned the legality of Sunday's operation in Shujai'iya, "in particular, the potential violation of the fundamental principles of the laws of war, specifically the principle of distinguishing between combatants and civilians".
Israel's prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, the defence minister, Moshe Ya'alon, and chief of staff, Benny Gantz – the men directing the military operation in Gaza – said in a statement it would expand and continue "as long as necessary until the completion of the task". Israel has said the goal of the ground invasion is to locate and destroy dozens of tunnels under the border, used by militants to launch attacks.
Ban Ki-moon and Sameh Shukri in Egypt Egyptian foreign minister Sameh Shukri, right, and UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon in Egypt. Ban has urged an immediate ceasefire. Photograph: Amr Nabil/AP
In Cairo, Ban held talks with Egyptian president Abdel-Fattah al-Sisi and the head of the Arab League. The Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas was due to meet Hamas's leader-in-exile Khaled Mishal in Doha.
Egypt's proximity to Gaza, its peace treaty with Israel and good relations with the western-backed Palestinian Authority in the West Bank have made it the focus of attempts to defuse the crisis, though its relations with Hamas – which it sees as an offshoot of the banned Muslim Brotherhood – are hostile.
Hamas rejected Cairo's original ceasefire proposal last week, though a senior official said Egypt might be willing to amend its initiative. "Egypt does not mind adding some of Hamas's conditions provided that all involved parties approve," the official told Reuters. Hamas is demanding an end to the blockade of Gaza, an end to hostilities, opening the border to Egypt, the release of prisoners held by Israel and other conditions – in exchange for a truce.
Ismail Haniyeh, the former Hamas prime minister, claimed that Israeli forces were being beaten in Gaza. "The Palestinian resistance will meet the demands and expectations of the Palestinian people," he said, adding that the Hamas conditions were "the minimum demands" for any truce.
"Our people's sacrifices are heading for triumph," he said in a pre-recorded TV broadcast. "We see the al-Qassam Brigades and the Jerusalem Brigades and all resistance factions beating the enemy and attack him again and again, under the earth and sea. The ground operation is a declaration of failure on the part of the enemy aerial war against Gaza."
Mishal was due to speak later, fuelling speculation about a possible "victory" speech that could pave the way for acceptance of a ceasefire.
The ultimatum imposed by militants for Christians to convert to Islam, pay a tax or be killed has passed with the collapse of communities that have existed for millennia
Patrick Cockburn Author Biography
Sunday 20 July 2014
The last Christians in northern Iraq are fleeing from places where their communities have lived for almost 2,000 years, as a deadline passed for them to either convert to Islam, pay a special tax or be killed.
The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis) issued a decree last week offering Christians the three options accompanied by the ominous threat that, if they did not comply by midday on 19 July, “then there is nothing to give them but the sword”.
It is the greatest mass flight of Christians in the Middle East since the Armenian massacres and the expulsion of Christians from Turkey during and after the First World War. Isis, which now rules an area larger than Great Britain, has already eliminated many of the ancient Christian communities of eastern Syria, where those who had not escaped were given a similar choice between conversion, payment of a special tax or death.
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Christians leaving Mosul – which was captured by Isis on 10 June – in order to seek refuge in Iraqi Kurdistan are being stripped of all their possessions.
A Christian man said: “The Islamic State [Isis] stopped my relatives at a checkpoint when they were fleeing and when they found out they were Christians, they took everything they were carrying, including their mobile phones. They left them only with the clothes they were wearing.”
Mosul is one of the most ancient centres of Christianity and on the east bank of the Tigris river that flows through the city is a mosque housing the tomb of the Biblical figure of Jonah. This is now in danger of being destroyed by Isis, whose puritan and iconoclastic version of Islam is opposed to the worship of tombs, shrines, statues and pictures.
Tens of thousands of Shabak and Shia Turkmen, demonised as polytheists and apostates by Isis, have fled their homes following raids by Isis gunmen.
skekatpuray wrote:Russia and China too voted against Israel.
When the boys realized that the Hyundai passengers were not Jews but terrorists, one of them succeeded in calling the police emergency call center and whispered, "We've been kidnapped." In the recording of that phone call, one of the abductors was heard shouting in Hebrew, "Heads down!" Then there were sounds of shouting, volleys from an automatic weapon and a weak voice sighing "Ai," of someone who was injured. This was followed by another volley of shots from an automatic weapon, and the boys fell silent. Then the murderers burst out singing.
It was a murder in real-time, horrifying and monstrous. Three Israeli boys who attempted to hitch a ride on their way to their weekend Shabbat at home were murdered in cold blood. And the police had recorded documentation of the murder. Like in the movies.
Examination of the burned Hyundai found near Halhul, north of Hebron, only verified what was already known from listening to the tape. The numerous bloodstains and DNA findings left no room for hope. But Israel's defense and political systems closed ranks and transmitted one message, loud and clear: The State of Israel is closely tracking the fates of the three missing boys, who were abducted for bargaining purposes to free Palestinian prisoners. Thus, searches are underway to free them.
The border crossing between Israel and Jordan was closed. The official reason: to prevent the terrorists from smuggling the abductees outside Israel's borders, and even from the Palestinian Authority's limits.
Indeed.Surya wrote:unless the vote was a Yes Prime Minister moment.
Aye. Had hoped things would change when NaMo refused to condemn Israel in Parliament. Did Babus just vote by rote in UN? Anyway, NaMo should have guided the Babus and at least, abstained, as you correctly pointed out.James B wrote:Disgusting. Disappointed in Modi. The least we could have done is to abstain.
It seems the whole BRICS did. I wonder why?skekatpuray wrote:Russia and China too voted against Israel.
As it is now constituted, Israel is a Manifest Destiny state. The Zionists view their Manifest Destiny as a land without Palestinians granted to them by the promise of God to Moses. Israel is in the closing phase of full subjugation of those on the Gaza Palestinian Reservation and the West Bank Palestinian Reservation, shrinking the reservations to minimal sizes.
Now we have a reprise of Wounded Knee. Israel is trying to disarm another tribal band on its Gaza Palestinian Reservation using weapons and organizational systems that completely outmatch the defenders. The desparate inhabitants of the oppressed place are resisting and being killed and wounded by the thousands. Israel has suffered a mere fraction in number of the casualties imposed on the Gazans. It is a massacre.
In the current media discourse over Gaza, the MSM refuses to acknowledge or speak about the elephant in the room--the fact that the root of the conflict is the land grab by the Zionists. The most recent reel of the story, the rocket attacks, is the only one played. All earlier events are ignored. The Palestinians are vilified and blamed for their own destruction as bit players in Israel's final act of extirpation in furtherance of its Manifest Destiny meme.
Why? Would others not have pointed to that as "evidence" of India tagging along with whatever is ordered by WHOTUS/POTUS?James B wrote:Disgusting. Disappointed in Modi. The least we could have done is to abstain.
You are assuming all Indians have been rescued from Iraq. That is not true. This news is from yesterday:brihaspati wrote:The Palestinian jihadis had started rocketing in mid June. The Indians ISIS had kidnapped were returned by 3-4 th July.
There is no^100 connection onlee in Indian voices claiming to be so. For almost every ummah country with whom India has now sided on Palestine, still see Pak position as legitimate over and above that of India. When time comes they will not follow this no^100 "consistency" argument. No one in the world cares about every international conflict being treated on some Indian delusion of being at par and mortal despair at not appearing "consistent".UlanBatori wrote:Why? Would others not have pointed to that as "evidence" of India tagging along with whatever is ordered by WHOTUS/POTUS?James B wrote:Disgusting. Disappointed in Modi. The least we could have done is to abstain.
There is noooooooooo tie between the "Kashmir dispute" (which is just a Pakistan problem, solved by dissolving Pakistan) and the Palestine dispute. Israel has no "international law" legitimacy to stay in occupied territory and terrorize the population of those territories. This is not to say that Israel does not have legitimate, common-sense security concerns, but it is destructive to cite those as carte blanche for otherwise unconscionable policies.
Building settlements (which implies outsiders) in occupied territory, is what Pakistan has been doing these past 67 years in POK. It is completely contrary to international law and specifically against UN resolutions. All the terrorist attacks and LOC violations are BEYOND that outrage.
So how is it consistent for India to say that it is OK for Israel to do that in Occupied Territories? The Indian vote was completely consistent with INDIAN policy, though of course it may have gone against FOREIGN-dictated "foreign policy". I am very glad to see India voting Indian interests consistently. High time.
Who cares about Israel breaking "off" relations with India?!!! Keeping Saudis happy is much much more important. Of course it is a matter of gaining from supporting countries, what can Israel offer! some weapons! does that contribute to development and prosperity? absolutely no^100! just ye think of the money that Saudis can invest in! man...all the finance networks gaining in commissions, fees, and now-proven of GOI inability to touch any of that if shipped or cut abroad, sweetening political pockets, so much dough circulating just to get a small cut from would make one's "life".Sagar G wrote:Why this dhoti shivering about a "yes" ??? As if Israel is going to break off all relations with India or like we were living on rehmo karam of Israel that we needed to vote a "no". When the entire BRICS has voted against Israel why this chest beating about India onlee ??? Israel needs friends at the international forum and it would do itself good to remain in the good books of India and I don't see many things regarding that and why is Modi being accused of being pro ummahh ??? Is the same accusation true for BRCS leaders as well ??? Can't say much about BCS but Putin supporting ummah !!!!
And yes, why should we care about Israel breaking relations with us ? Will Israel ever vote against us in favor of Pakistan ? Will Israel fund madarsaas in neighboring countries like Paki and Bangla to create rabid Islamists who will have anti-India in their DNA ? Will Israel fund madarsaas and other Islamists in India fostering an ideology which will make Deobandis look like buddhist monks ? Will there ever be in Israel the kind of religious bigotry and anti-kafir propoganda as there is in Saudi ?brihaspati wrote:Who cares about Israel breaking "off" relations with India?!!! Keeping Saudis happy is much much more important. Of course it is a matter of gaining from supporting countries, what can Israel offer! some weapons! does that contribute to development and prosperity? absolutely no^100! just ye think of the money that Saudis can invest in! man...all the finance networks gaining in commissions, fees, and now-proven of GOI inability to touch any of that if shipped or cut abroad, sweetening political pockets, so much dough circulating just to get a small cut from would make one's "life".Sagar G wrote:Why this dhoti shivering about a "yes" ??? As if Israel is going to break off all relations with India or like we were living on rehmo karam of Israel that we needed to vote a "no". When the entire BRICS has voted against Israel why this chest beating about India onlee ??? Israel needs friends at the international forum and it would do itself good to remain in the good books of India and I don't see many things regarding that and why is Modi being accused of being pro ummahh ??? Is the same accusation true for BRCS leaders as well ??? Can't say much about BCS but Putin supporting ummah !!!!
Miss the voice that promised that Saudi and Gulf investments will make India a zooper-power. He was the correctly representative mindset and viewpoint of those who will never really be out of power.