The SH seems to use the AN/ALE-55 Fiber-Optic Towed Decoy..Singha wrote:well maybe during hard movements the tow cable could snag or break off. OK for big bombers like B52/B1, maybe not so ok for fighters.
does any sher khan fighter use towed decoys?
After Air Chief, PV Naik, saw the fifth generation fighter aircraft flight in Russia last month, on Tuesday secretary of defence production, RK Singh, was given a flight demonstration of the PAK-FA (Prospective Airborne Complex of Frontline Aviation).
Russia's Sukhoi PAK-FA stealthy fifth-generation fighter is showing promise in its test-flight programme and will probably fly at Moscow's MAKS air show in August, says United Aircraft chief Mikhail Pogosyan.
"There is no aircraft in the world that doesn't undergo certain modifications based on the test [programme] results. The most successful only require minor modifications to support systems. Our experience so far gives us confidence that we will avoid significant problems. The past year gives us sound grounds to say we are moving in the right direction.
"We're quite happy and pleased with the course of testing."
Two prototypes are now flying at the Gromov flight test centre at Zhukovsky, a suburb southeast of Moscow.
Russia has a requirement for 150 or more of the aircraft, which carries the internal Sukhoi designation of T-50, to enter service from 2015-16. India plans to buy between 200 and 250 of a modified design under the designation Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft.
Pogosyan denies that New Delhi is simply providing funding for Russian designers to produce a modified aircraft for the Indian air force's requirements.
He says India is bringing its own engineering input to the joint variant, although he declines to detail New Delhi's contribution beyond saying it covers aspects of airframe design, software development and other systems.
Pogosyan points to previous co-operation between the two countries in which Indian engineers helped to develop the capabilities of the Sukhoi Su-30MKI in Indian service as evidence of India's engineering expertise.
Asked for his professional opinion on China's J-20 stealth fighter unveiled in January, Pogosyan says: "You'd better ask the Chinese."
Pressed on whether he feels the aircraft is a genuine prototype or merely a technology demonstrator, he says: "China's aviation industry has achieved really significant progress. But on the other hand, to create a really competitive product is time-consuming, demands significant experience in the engineering field and experienced human resources."
Lockheed-Martin and Pentagon – feeling that the F-16IN would not be selected – in the months ahead of AERO-INDIA have ‘circulated’ an Indian participation in the lentghy F-35 programme. Questioned on that idea, an obviously ‘nerved’ minister Antony replied: “Already we are engaged with Russia to produce a fifth-generation fighter. No other country has offered us these technologies in the past or would in the future. We are way ahead now in the partnership with Russia. There is no question of going back...!”
Russian UAC and Sukhoi in December 2010 signed a D&D-contract with Indian aerospace ‘giant’ HAL, to jointly develop the design for a new 5G multirole fighter. It is based on Sukhois T-50 (PAK FA) design, who’s second prototype T-50-2 only flew on March 3rd. The overall costs of the project are likely to be US$ 6 billion and according to the UAC-head M. Pogosyan, “the work between India and Russia will be distributed in a 35/65 proportion. Between 200 and 250 are planned for both airforces.” To ACIG Pogosyan also confirmed the Indian demand for receiving mainly two-seaters of what they now call PMF (Perspective Multirole Fighter), a focus originally not on Sukhoi’s agenda. ACM Naik added: “We are looking for a fifth generation aircraft. We are looking for an aircraft which is capable of supercruise, capable of very potent long range weapons, capable of a higher level of integrated avionics which are not there in a fourth generation aircraft. We also think that in modern scenarios highly saturated EW and ECM, with all the real-time targeting and datalinks and a BVR-environment with new missiles, you need a second human. 2017 is our expected induction date to start with this design....”
Old article. BR knows it rather well.prithvi wrote:article on PAK-FA on Aviation Week..
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/de ... d4224d634e
The twin-seater Rafale B was designed to be just as effective as the single-seater Rafale C. In fact the French Air Force has more twin-seater Rafales than they have single-seater Rafales! Our resident Typhoon expert - Viv S - can probably comment on the Eurofighter.Gaur wrote:^^
Not necessarily a good idea. If the a/cs are not originally designed keeping twin seater config in mind, there may be performance degradation. Case in point- Differences b/n Mig-29UB and Mig-29KUB. In Mig-29UB, the nose cone gets smaller because cockpit is shifted forwards. Also, the fuel capacity gets compromised. On the other hand, Mig-29KUB is unique because they started designing from twin seater first. So, the cockpit is designed and arranged so that the nose cone remains unaffected. Plus, Mig-29KUB is practically a total redesign of Mig-29 and gives it a much greater fuel capacity.
So, it would first have to be seen if the twin seater versions of the Eurocanards are designed keeping these considerations in mind or not.
Russia-India business dialogTuesday, June 21, 2011
Russia-India business dialog
An interesting business dialog is available on the site of SIEF. Between most important high technology news : one Indian company will produce GaN chips in S-Petersburg starting from the next year. I think the news can be crossed with PAK FA development (radar choice).
They ALL are shades of the same color!!!!!Why then should India work with the US when Russia is willing to partner India in jointly developing a Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA), which incorporates not just cutting-edge but even bleeding-edge technologies? The fact, which top officials in the ministry of defence (MoD) ruefully admit in private, is that Russia will not pass on any key technologies to India. Sukhoi, the Russian partner in the FGFA project, has already developed the single-seat flying prototype that Moscow says meets the demands of the Russian Air Force. The work that remains mainly involves avionics and electronics systems and will fall largely into India’s share. The best that the Indian partner, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, can hope to gain from this “joint development” is a level of expertise in project management.
Second that. While he has been wanting to champion the cause of domestic industries in the defence sector, he conveniently oversees how much they tend to lose by purchasing the F-35 off the shelf as opposed to manufacturing the MMRCAs under TOT here in India.Austin wrote:I would be wary of Ajai Shukla when it comes to F-35 , his obsession with F-35 is similar to Carlo obsession with F-22 and Ajai would go to great length to prove his point.
Greed perhaps? A wild guess.They are not stupid.
USSR did. Russia has not quite been at that level without getting her blood and flesh.They are the one who helped us everytime we were in need.
I'll miss ACM Naik...he has a straight talk no bullshit attitude which is endearing. Him telling the reporter no bases needed in Gujarat is funny...a nitpick, both Punjab and Rajastan have more bases than Gujarat.jaladipc wrote:in this videos ACM says inducting 250-270 FGFA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQnw-oIDfms
Watch from 1:30 onwards.
which is exactly why I like him... he did the same thing during the NDTV interview about Air defence. assured people that our RADAR and AD network is the best and are working to make it better.Acharya wrote:Him telling the reporter no bases needed in Gujarat is funny...a nitpick, both Punjab and Rajastan have more bases than Gujarat.
TO keep the public assured and build confidence
Cocky confidence is need for SDREs, in the midst of millions of Dhoti shiverers, ACM Naik stands out big!!! Hope to hear more pearls of wisdom from him during the rest of his tenure and during his retired life!!!SaiK wrote:best is not good, better is better.
Then there's Katrina kumariMAKS FLIGHT PROGRAM
http://www.aviasalon.com/en/static/page ... rogram.htm
The exhibits will include Russian modern multipurpose fighters Su-35, MiG-35, Su-30 MK2, as well as the novelty of the Russian civil aircraft industry – Sukhoy superjet-100 aircraft.
For the first time Russian PAK FA fighter of the Fifth generation will take part in the flight program
At the static parking area the Russian Air Force will present the full range of military airplanes and helicopters: Tu-160, A-50, Tu-95, Su-27 SM, MiG-29SMT, Su-24M, Su-25SM, Su-34, MiG-31B, Jak-130, helicopters Ka-52, Mi-26, Mi-8 MTV-5, Mi-28.
Also, Russian Helicopters, JSC will demonstrate their wide range of military and civil helicopters.
Apart from this, themed flight performances are in the schedule: "Search and Rescue" with participation of Ka-226Т Mi-34S1 helicopters; “Anti-terror” with participation of Ka-52 Mi-28NE, Mi-8 helicopters.
The French Air Force will demonstrate Rafale fighters in their flight program and the Italian Air Force will demonstrate the only cargo aircraft in the world, performing aerial stunts – S27.
And then Al-Amreeka will display their state-of-the-art planes such as This year, after 4-year break, US Air Force airplanes will take part in the Salon. For the first time S-5А Galaxy military transport airplane, А-10 attack planes and R-3 reconnaissance plane will be presented at the static parking area. The Salon’s visitors will also be able to see traditional MAKS participants - KS-135 transport airplanes, F-16 and F-15 fighters as well as В-52 bomber. F-15 multipurpose fighter will perform a new 15 minute long program.
Cannot say for sure. But here are my observations (tea leaf reading):Cosmo_R wrote:@NRao ^^^: OT in naval discussions but related. What happens with FAKPA/FGFA etc? That's an even bigger rabbit hole
There was a time when any Russian military equipment offered to forces on the Korean peninsula would have stopped slightly north of the 38th parallel, but those days are apparently over.
Although only 18 months beyond first flight, the Sukhoi PAK-FA stealth fighter has been offered to the South Koreans for FX-III. Local reports (see here and here) in Seoul today say that South Korea's defence acquisition agency -- DAPA -- has included the PAK-FA in its short-list of competitors.
For those keeping score, this is the first real competition between the PAK-FA and any foreign fighter. South Korea also is considering the Boeing F-15SE Silent Eagle, Eurofighter Typhoon and the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. This could get interesting, folks.
Ouch that hurts!!!Nikhil T wrote:MMRCA deal: IAF might order 63 more jets
"But yes, if the timelines for the Tejas LCA (light combat aircraft) and the stealth Indo-Russian FGFA (fifth-generation fighter aircraft) projects are not met, we will go for more MMRCA to retain IAF's combat edge," he added.
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This, however, is the first time that top defence officials have directly linked the progress in the LCA and FGFA projects to the possibility of exceeding the MMRCA acquisition beyond the first 126 jets.
Agreed, this is an opening gambit before price negotiation to get a good handle on the cost. Whoever blinks last wins!!!kmc_chacko wrote:^^ they are just making it clear that there will be further increase in MRCA order, and a way to get more bargaining power.
But, keep that to yourself. Do not tell the French or the EADS people that we already have a price in mind - which is WELL OVER $20 billion!!!Pandit from that article wrote: When the MMRCA selection process was initiated by the defence ministry in mid-2007, the overall project cost was pegged at Rs 42,000 crore, or $10.4 billion for 126 fighters. But it will zoom well beyond $20 billion, if India eventually decides to opt for 189 jets since inflation is also being factored in. Even with 126 jets, this is the biggest such fighter contract going around the world as of now.
I hope the Koreans don't get to know more about it than we eventually would..The credibility of including the Sukhoi T-50 in the shortlist is open to question. In the past, South Korea has acquired several Russian systems, such as the Il-103 trainer, Ansat and Ka-27 helicopters, S-300 SAMs and space technology. The Sukhoi Su-35 was also included in the four candidates for the original FX competition. However, it remains to be seen just how much Russia would be prepared to reveal to the Koreans about the T-50’s technology and capabilities.
