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Mihaylo wrote:All of India and Indians feel better today, since we have at last exacted fair, equitable and swift revenge for the mischief committed in 2008. Miscreants should know that they cannot take India for granted in the future. The world should learn from us brave kuffars.

-M

QUETTA: A bomb tore through a security forces vehicle escorting schoolchildren home from school on Wednesday, killing four personnel and a woman in the southwestern city of Quetta, police said.

The attack also wounded more than 20 people, officials said.

“The target was an army vehicle which was escorting a school bus carrying children of local army officers from different schools,” Quetta city police chief Hamid Shakeel told AFP.

RamaY wrote:

Mihaylo wrote:All of India and Indians feel better today, since we have at last exacted fair, equitable and swift revenge for the mischief committed in 2008. Miscreants should know that they cannot take India for granted in the future. The world should learn from us brave kuffars.

-M

Hanging Kasab for 11/26 is ONLY the first step in the process.

It by no means a Fair or Equitable or Swift justice/revenge for what happened on 11/26.

What next? Some paki pig dying of natural causes is a fair/equitable/swift justice by GoI?

But where GoI fails to do its duty, Karma catches up

Lilo wrote: Looks like mapping of paki strategic facilities by independent analysts (like our own Gagan ji) using opensource , especially of Paki clown jewel storage facilities is causing lot of takleef to gernails in Pindi .
May such eyes peering into pakiland increase exponentially in the future, may the Israelis, the French, the Iranians, the Russian, the German ,the Japanese and every one with capability be forced to keep their eyes and ears trained on the Pakis 24x7, so that Pakis will perpetually feel like they are in the middle of some freak (reality) show .

For above to happen and for Pakistan to live upto its name and become "Pakistan" (Pakhanistan) it needs more Islam. May Arrah arrange for it.

Mihaylo wrote: Notice the sarcasm, will ya

-M

Strongly condemning the execution of Ajmal Kasab, human rights activists on Wednesday questioned the “unusual speed” with which his mercy petition was rejected and also the secrecy surrounding the execution at the Yerawada prison in Pune.
The ‘Peoples’ Movement against Death Penalty’ headed by Justice VR. "Kasab" Krishna Iyer described the execution as an “unconstitutional act” of the State. Saying that Kasab was brainwashed in the name of God to unleash unmindful act of terror, the organisation, in a statement, said poverty and ignorance of the “young boy” was exploited and he was used as a killing instrument by the hatred politics of a neighbour State.

krithivas wrote:

Strongly condemning the execution of Ajmal Kasab, human rights activists on Wednesday questioned the “unusual speed” with which his mercy petition was rejected and also the secrecy surrounding the execution at the Yerawada prison in Pune.
The ‘Peoples’ Movement against Death Penalty’ headed by Justice VR. "Kasab" Krishna Iyer described the execution as an “unconstitutional act” of the State. Saying that Kasab was brainwashed in the name of God to unleash unmindful act of terror, the organisation, in a statement, said poverty and ignorance of the “young boy” was exploited and he was used as a killing instrument by the hatred politics of a neighbour State.

Anujan wrote:Sincere question. What is the difference between a imambargah and a mosque? Is it due to the whole we can't call it a mosque movement?

partha wrote:imambargah = dargah where an imam is buried, right?

Anujan wrote:Sincere question. What is the difference between a imambargah and a mosque? Is it due to the whole we can't call it a mosque movement?

Ajmal Kasab's execution: Taliban shocked, Lashkar says he will 'inspire' more attacks

ISLAMABAD: Mohammad Ajmal Kasab who was executed in Pune's Yerwada jail on Wednesday for his role in the 26/11 Mumbai massacre four years back, was a "hero" who will inspire more attacks, said a senior commander of the Pakistani militant group accused of masterminding the attack.

"He was a hero and will inspire other fighters to follow his path," the commander of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

Taliban 'shocked'

Pakistan's Taliban movement expressed shock on Wednesday over India's execution of Kasab.

"There is no doubt that it's very shocking news and a big loss that a Muslim has been hanged on Indian soil," Taliban spokesman Ihsanullah Ihsan told Reuters.

Mihaylo wrote:

partha wrote:imambargah = dargah where an imam is buried, right?

Dargah = sufi shrine where a sufi saint is buried

-M

Marvi Sirmed, a Pakistani human right activist, says that it will make no difference until those who supported Kasab during Mumbai carnage are not punished.

Sirmed told rediff.com, "He was mere a mohra (pawn); the network is still present, so it will make no difference."

He maligned the country; his acts gave a wrong message to rest of the world that Pakistani is producing terrorists.(he is most famous of all , but tsp is the crucible of terrorism0 As he has earned disrepute to Pakistan so it was the desire of Pakistani to see him punished," said Sirmed.

According to Marvi, all the people behind Kasab should be brought into justice and they should be punished. "The Pakistan army and establishment should work hard to nab all people who are bringing disrepute to the country."

According to the News Tribe, a UK−based bilingual news website that covers Pakistan, South Asia, Middle East and the UK, the Ansar Burney Trust International has "got in touch with the Indian government to bring the body of Ajmal Kasab, executed in India on Wednesday morning, back home".

Burney, according to the website, asked the family and relatives of Kasab "to contact him soon in order to initiate efforts bringing back his body to Pakistan."

"The concerned family could contact the trust on this address: Office No.6, Hasan Manzil, Araam Bagh Road or at office contact number: 021−32623382," it said.

"The renowned activist for human rights said he has no sympathy with Kasab's crime but since he was a Pakistani, hence it was the right of his family to bury him. He vowed to bring his body back to Pakistan on humanitarian grounds," the news website added.

Marvi Sirmed, a Pakistani human right activist

According to Marvi, all the people behind Kasab should be brought into justice and they should be punished. "The Pakistan army and establishment should work hard to nab all people who are bringing disrepute to the country."

Pakistan today has the fastest growing nuclear weapons programme in the world, and the third largest nuclear arsenal.

It is not, however, any Pakistani General who has displayed the ability to explain why and how all this is happening. This responsibility has been left to Pakistan’s most savvy and hardnosed lady journalist turned diplomat, Maleeha Lodi, known for her close links with the Pakistan military establishment.

Drawing attention to why Pakistan is rejecting international calls for concluding a “Fissile Material Cut off Treaty” (FMCT), she avers that Pakistan has been concerned by India’s conventional and strategic military build-up.

Predictably, she refers to the India-US Nuclear Deal and the subsequent waiver of sanctions by the Nuclear Suppliers’ Group on India, as contributing to Pakistan’s accelerated development of nuclear weapons.

In the course of her rationalisation of Pakistan’s feverish quest for new nuclear weapons, Maleeha Lodi explains that after having recently acquired plutonium capabilities, Pakistan can now miniaturise its nuclear weapons, which was not possible earlier, with heavier enriched uranium warheads.

Over the past one-and-a-half decades, China has obligingly provided Pakistan with unsafeguarded plutonium reactors and reprocessing facilities. She avers that Pakistan is committed to developing a “full spectrum deterrence”, including the use of tactical nuclear weapons.

India’s forbearance

India’s nuclear doctrine makes it clear that while India will not be the first to use nuclear weapons, it will respond with nuclear weapons if there is a nuclear attack on “Indian territory, or on Indian forces anywhere”. Pakistani military officials evidently believe that India would not resort to the use of nuclear weapons if its forces are attacked with tactical nuclear weapons.

George Perkovich, an American non-proliferation analyst, recently noted: “Thus far the people of South Asia have been spared the potential consequences of deterrence instability because Indian leaders have not retaliated violently to terrorist attacks on iconic targets. India’s “neo-Gandhian” forbearance was counter to the prescriptions of deterrence and cannot be expected to persist as new leaders emerge in Delhi”.

While Pakistan has not formally enunciated a nuclear doctrine, the long-time head of the Strategic Planning Division of its Nuclear Command Authority, Lt Gen Khalid Kidwai, told a team of physicists from Italy’s Landau Network in 2002 that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons were “aimed solely at India”.

Kidwai added that Pakistan would use nuclear weapons if India conquers a large part of Pakistan’s territory, or destroys a large part of Pakistan’s land and air forces. Kidwai also held out the possibility of use of nuclear weapons if India tries to “economically strangle” Pakistan, or pushes it to political destabilisation.

This elucidation, by the man who has been the de facto custodian of Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal for over a decade and a POW in India in 1971-73, was a precise formulation of Pakistan’s nuclear thresholds. Since India has no intention of wasting resources in a prolonged conflict with Pakistan or by seizing its populated centres, Pakistan should be left in no doubt that even a “neo-Gandhian” Indian leadership would not sit by idly, in the event of a repeat of the 26/11 style terrorist attack.

Too yielding by far

It is interesting that despite a large portion of Pakistan’s army now being deployed on its borders with Afghanistan, confident that India will not take advantage of this development, the army should be adding new facets to its nuclear doctrine.

While the Zardari Government is sincere in seeking to improve ties with India, Pakistan today faces a situation where the army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani publicly warns the judiciary and the elected Government not to mess with serving or retired army officers accused of corruption and manipulating elections.

The sad reality, however, is that it is India that has yielded ground on terrorism continuously after the 26/11 attack, starting with the surrender at the Sharm el Sheikh talks.

India has in all but name resumed the Composite Dialogue Process, despite receiving no assurances either on an end to terrorism, or on bringing the masterminds of 26/11 to justice.

The least we should have done is to insist on the centrality of action by Pakistan on terrorism in the dialogue process.

Feting Interior Minister Rahman Malik is hardly going to make any difference in the minds of the Pakistan military which, not too long ago, barred Malik from entering its headquarters in Rawalpindi.

Your first choice is In the Name of Honor by Mukhtar Mai.

It’s by this amazing woman, though it’s an ‘as told to’ book written by a French journalist working through an interpreter. She talked to her about how she became known around the world because of this episode where she was raped, essentially at the order of a village council in Pakistan because one of the local big families said her brother, who I don’t think was even a teenager, had allegedly assaulted one of their daughters. In fact, he had only been talking to her. But it escalated and at the end of the day, because that was an assault on the honour of this family, they insisted on getting their own back.

This was an official punishment?

Well, it’s difficult, because there are these village councils which are not empowered to do this, but they do…

They do it anyway?

They sort of grow out of a tradition where they were the government, though they’re not any more. Anyway, what’s amazing is that it was horrible, obviously, and she spent a week locked away in her house, but then, instead of what normally happens in these circumstances, which is that the woman just retreats in shame, the village mullah, rather than letting them get away with it, said in Friday mosque that this was a wrong. So then the police felt they had to do something about it and they actually interviewed her.

While they tried to get her to cover it up, it very swiftly snowballed and she was at the centre of this international incident and the people who did it were prosecuted, which doesn’t happen very often. Then it was appealed, and now it’s a mess and still hasn’t been decided by the supreme court of Pakistan, but the key thing is that in doing this she drew attention to the possibility that instead of retreating in shame you should shame the people who did it. Because it drew international attention she got support from around the world and she got money and won prizes and started a centre which has two schools, a girls school and a boys school, though she herself is not literate.

She is an amazing woman, who, instead of doing what she was expected to do, resisted, and as a result women contacted her from all over Pakistan and she tries to support them. She argues against these honour killings and assaults but also for the human rights and the dignity of women in Pakistan.

Why have you chosen it particularly now?

She is one of my heroes and this is a book about how someone who grasps dignity, which is a form of honour based in our humanity, can resist the world of the negative side of honour, where women are punished because they are pawns in a game of honour between men.

@MarviSirmed @rajarumi , I respect you people for your forthright views but let me gently remind you that Pawkistan is not 31st province of Indian Union to demand power, money, trade (Mostly free). U r free nation & pls stop this SouthAsia nonsense"

The reply was from Smt Marvi sirmed calling names and F***off stating that it is about their roots. I reminded them the place called south Asia is nowhere on the map & their roots lie in a Geography called 'Indian Sub COntinent' & We as Indians are pretty happy, Satisfied with our Identity. In case you have problem with your identity, please seek to change yours not besmirch/embroil Brand India. It was hilarious to see that she replied with more abuses and I simply asked her to now show 'Pakiness' & then more abuses and finally she blocked me.

chandrabhan wrote:2. I do meet lot of these 'South Asia' types who come to meet my family for something or other due to some CON party understanding, How do I gently manage this euphemism (South Asia) at a personal level.

chandrabhan wrote: 1. I understand the need for Pawkis to create a new narrative of their existence and need to have sense of identity. they are too Embarrassed to accept that PAwk identity has failed but accepting Indian identity is also Haraam to them. What needs to be done from our side to counter this 'South Asia' Nonsense?

2. I do meet lot of these 'South Asia' types who come to meet my family for something or other due to some CON party understanding, How do I gently manage this euphemism (South Asia) at a personal level.

Recently, while travelling around Punjab, especially Okara and its adjoining districts, I realised the influence of the LeT/Jamaat-ud-Dawaa (JuD) network in central Punjab. There are clear signs of the outfit’s presence, visible through massive wall-chalkings and display of banners signed ‘Jamaat-ud-Dawaa’ that exhort people to jihad. The banners even give cell numbers for jihad volunteers to call and offer their services. In any case, Okara is not only Kasab’s but also Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi’s home district. Lakhvi is a LeT commander who was arrested by Pakistan soon after the Mumbai attacks.

Talking to the people of the area one gets a sense that this militant network has consolidated itself much more in north and central Punjab than in south Punjab. The latter subregion is considered more notorious for jihad but there are other outfits there that have greater sway than LeT. This is mainly due to the relative popularity of Deoband ideology in south Punjab compared to the LeT’s Ahl-Hadith ideology.

With its headquarters in Muridke, which is near Lahore and about 200 kilometres from Okara, the LeT/JuD network seems to have consolidated itself in the urban and semi-urban centres of north and central Punjab where there is a growing and almost natural audience for the more sophisticated — or glib — Ahl-Hadith ideology and narrative than the comparatively less suave Deobandi {this then is the battleground for the Talibanwho want to extend their reach. Once that happens, the transformation of Pakistan would be complete. Not that, Ahl-e-Hadees are amy less dangerous. But, the Taliban are not under PA control and are answerable to none} or the pre-modern Barelvi and Sufi religious discourses. People living in the semi-educated environments of these small towns seem to be attracted to the textual evidence of god that Ahl-Hadith religious scholars like Hafiz Saeed provide. As a result, these preachers have not only acquired religious power but also social and political power.

Neat divisions

The LeT and its subsidiary JuD have neatly divided their operations in the area: the fund-raising is done under the JuD banner, and may refer to jihad but tends to focus more on establishing welfare operations in other parts of the country, now especially in Baluchistan; the LeT, on the other hand, pushes into the villages looking for volunteers.

Some of the JuD’s madrassa operations in the rural areas are also used to show off to urban supporters of the group, who are then spurred to contribute more in terms of money or other resources.

In recent months Hafiz Saeed has visited Okara and adjoining districts on several occasions for fund raising and successfully managed to collect millions of rupees.

The jihad in Kashmir and now against America are two slogans which make for successful fund-collection campaign.

At one level, Hafiz Saeed seems inclined towards rebranding himself as an agent of welfare and relief work. His handlers do not allow him to sell internal jihad or societal change so an external jihad is needed for marketing. As for Ajmal Kasab he is now a symbol that will be used to produce more Kasabs. The only question is when and where this new generation of Kasabs be used.

Following the quick and secret execution of terrorist Ajmal Kasab in Pune on Wednesday, former cricketer Imran Khan's party Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) has demanded the hanging of Indian prisoner Sarabjit Singh in retaliation who has been convicted and sentenced to death on terrorism charges in Pakistan, reports Times Now.

In a demonstration organized by the party in Multan, PTI leader Naeemullah Khan said, "India waited for less than a month after the final verdict by their judiciary and we are protecting the terrorists for the last eight years."

Blaming the Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, he said that the president was the biggest hurdle to execution of terrorists on death row in the country.

neeraj wrote:Here we go again...

Suicide attack near Rawalpindi Imambargah; 12 dead, 36 injured

I wonder what overall score is all over TSP today.

kish wrote:

neeraj wrote:Here we go again...

Suicide attack near Rawalpindi Imambargah; 12 dead, 36 injured

I wonder what overall score is all over TSP today.

Thanks be to Allah, the score has improved.

23 killed, 54 injured in Pakistan suicide blast

chandrabhan wrote:Yesterday, I witnessed the Pawkiness of a 'Liberal Pawki elite' first hand. Peeved at this South Asia nonsense, feeding my troll, I put a polite tweet to Smt Marvi sirmed & Sh Raja Rumi stating the following..

CRamS wrote:I am a bit puzzled at TSP's (and probably Unkil's) gambit after Kesba's hanging. Why would the bad Taliban threaten India? Doesn't make any sense.

CRamS wrote:I am a bit puzzled at TSP's (and probably Unkil's) gambit after Kesba's hanging. Why would the bad Taliban threaten India? Doesn't make any sense.