AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 24 Oct 2013 00:17

Narayana Rao wrote:Unless there is a serious change on how politics run in our country in future there will be more new states as it decentralize looting.

So centralized looting is the solution? I ~~have~~ am optimally cynical in that I am not naive but nor am I so extremely cynical to think that there are no (mostly) good people left in the polity.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 24 Oct 2013 00:22

vishvak wrote:More cracks will also mean long term politicking by concerned parties and may be international politicking too.

So solution is to go back to Bombay State, Madras State, Mysore State plus three more? Why not whole of India as one giant state? Then some people (US elite men) would want a world government controlled from UN HQ in New York.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 24 Oct 2013 02:00

In democracy there should be and must be orderly step by step processes : which is a correct way to follow, for example earlier ones done well.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 24 Oct 2013 04:45

by "done well", you mean how INC decided to merge Telangana and AP even after the SRC's official verdict was that Telangana should remain a separate entity until 1961, and combining the 2 states should ONLY be considered after having secured the mandate in Telangana Assembly AFTER the 1961 elections?

there has been lot of cacophony about Sri Krishna commission and how the current division is "illegitimate" b/c the commission recommended otherwise.

in that case, the entire period of AP's existence from 1956 till now is illegitimate, as it was done in total dissonance with the original SRC recommendations.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 24 Oct 2013 05:07

Devesh garu, I understand why you are misunderstanding Vishvak garu

, but that is a tangent to be left for the vested interests to discuss.

I say let us get back to the proposal in the post by RamaY garu. It seems like a good solution to a vexing problem. Why not give more publicity to something which would be palatable to a large number of people?

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 24 Oct 2013 07:26

No legal, constitutional basis for creation of Telangana state

AS per the recommendation of the States Reorganisation Commission (SRC) headed by Justice Fazal Ali, Andhra Pradesh was formed as the first linguistic state in India on November 1, 1956 by merging the Telangana area of Hyderabad state with Andhra state.

The Hyderabad state comprised, in addition to Telangana, five districts of Marathwada and three of Hyderabad-Karnataka. The Marathwada region was merged with Maharashtra and the three districts of Hyderabad-Karnataka were merged with Karnataka. About 25 states have been formed in India on linguistic basis since 1956.

Thus, Telangana is not the only region that was demerged from the Hyderabad state and merged with another province to form a new linguistic state. Several other provinces were similarly demerged or merged with other provinces for creation of linguistic states. Thus, there was nothing unusual about Telangana being merged with Andhra for formation of Andhra Pradesh.

NO POLICY: The Union cabinet, which met on October 3, 2013, took the decision to create Telangana state with Hyderabad city included therein. But it has not spelt out the basis for such a major decision. Apparently, the government does not have in place any policy for creation of new states. Article 3 empowers Parliament to create new states. But, it is to be understood that such a power has to be exercised according to a policy created for that purpose and not whimsically, selectively or on a case-to- case basis. Arbitrary exercise of authority will not stand judicial scrutiny. It is now too well settled that every state’s action, in order to survive, must not be susceptible to the vice of arbitrariness which is the crux of Article 14 of the Constitution. Arbitrariness is the very negation of the rule of law.

This is also evident from various pronouncements of the apex court. Be it denial of passport in public interest (Maneka Gandhi) or imposition of President’s rule (SR Bommai) or removal of governors (BP Singhal) or alienation of natural resources (presidential reference under Article 143), the apex court was clear that there should be a policy in place. When it comes to creation of new states, the central government has to act with greater responsibility by coming up with a policy, particularly because the Constitution has not entrusted any role for the State Assembly beyond merely expressing its view. There should be some valid basis like language or ethnicity or backwardness or need to create smaller states. None of this is present in the case of Telangana.

PREMEDITATED: The very objective of bringing in the Right to Information Act is to enable the citizens to know not just the decision of the government in a particular case but also the basis of such a decision. When the Parliament wants the citizens to know the basis for a decision taken by all layers of government, how is it that the Union cabinet took such an important decision of bifurcating one of the biggest states without any basis, that too, by bringing such an important item as a table item before it? On the one hand, the Union government says that Telangana is a long-pending issue and, on the other, it hurriedly brings such an important issue as a table item without allowing the ministers to take a considered decision on such an important issue. This confirms that the whole process is vitiated by premeditation.

It is not as if the Congress party was not aware of the need for a valid basis for creation of new states. The Congress Working Committee had, at its meeting held on October 30, 2000, considered the demands from various regions of the country for separate statehood in detail and decided to refer the matter to another States Reorganisation Commission by passing the following resolution:

“While respecting the report of the first States Reorganisation Commission, the Congress party notes that there are many valid reasons for formation of separate states of Vidarbha and Telangana. However, the reorganisation of existing states raises a large number of issues. The Congress feels that the whole matter could be best addressed by another States Reorganisation Commission to look into all the issues involved”.

DUBIOUS BASIS: Going by the CWC resolution dated July 30, 2013, it appears that it decided to recommend creation of Telangana state because it is a longstanding demand. Why were other longstanding demands such as Vidarbha not taken up? Moreover, can a longstanding demand alone constitute a rational and valid basis for creation of new States? On November 21, 2011, the UP Assembly passed a resolution to split the state into Purvanchal, Paschim Pradesh, Bundelkhand and Awadh Pradesh. In case of Andhra Pradesh, there is no such resolution. It is, therefore, clear that the UPA government has taken the decision to create Telangana in the hope of winning a few additional MP seats, taking advantage of the ongoing agitation for a Telangana state. Such caprice shall never stand judicial review.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 24 Oct 2013 08:10

for one thing, if that rivers based proposal has to receive any kind of traction, then Vidarbha+Chattisgarh+Telangana+UttaraKostaAndhra should start organizing some annual meetings of agricultural/trade/small-business/infra variety.

I don't think this idea has been explored that deeply yet. do any Indian States currently hold annual conferences/meetings which act as meeting-grounds for various people to come together and start inter-state projects, whether in agri/trade/business/NGO's or anything of the sort?

I think the idea merits some exploration. at worst, it might fizzle out in a few years. but if planned and executed well, I see a lot of potential to undermine the existing linguistic straitjackets that people are forced to wear.

I would think that people living in "border zones" would be very interested in such events. from my experience, in AP, KT, MH, CG, the people living in the border districts are comfortable in getting along in neighboring state's language. many people have close to bi-lingual proficiency. there is a large population that would be open to such initiatives.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 24 Oct 2013 14:05

Governor of ap, Narasimhan now went to Delhi and apparently advised termite queen to speed up the division process to avoid further problems.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 24 Oct 2013 20:03

Narayana Rao wrote:Governor of ap, Narasimhan now went to Delhi and apparently advised termite queen to speed up the division process to avoid further problems.

Any links if available can point to termite queen's interference without any authority very clearly. Con race elected at center and state level seem to be bystanders while termite queen is calling shots is not democratic at all.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 25 Oct 2013 07:27

Losing elections to Modi in a bad way is the fear she has now. She is doing all kinds of things prevent that. She could have won reasonable seats without any major drama as it has powerful money bags in AP and winning 12 to 15 out of 42 was acivable. She wants all from ap and gone for this plan, probably under diggi raja advice.

Some leaders from Rayalaseema and coastal areas met the President yesterday. We may see some more drama there.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 25 Oct 2013 11:02

Devesh garu, RamaY garu has disappeared from the battlefield after proposing a beatifully complex padmavyUha. Looks like he is in kAndEsh.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 25 Oct 2013 11:12

afaik RamaY has been banned. temporary or permanent I am not sure of.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 25 Oct 2013 11:59

RamaY banned? News to me.

AP Governor still in Delhi.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 25 Oct 2013 12:25

Narayana Rao wrote:RamaY banned? News to me.

AP Governor still in Delhi.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 25 Oct 2013 12:45

devesh wrote:for one thing, if that rivers based proposal has to receive any kind of traction, then Vidarbha+Chattisgarh+Telangana+UttaraKostaAndhra should start organizing some annual meetings of agricultural/trade/small-business/infra variety.

I don't think this idea has been explored that deeply yet. do any Indian States currently hold annual conferences/meetings which act as meeting-grounds for various people to come together and start inter-state projects, whether in agri/trade/business/NGO's or anything of the sort?

I think the idea merits some exploration. at worst, it might fizzle out in a few years. but if planned and executed well, I see a lot of potential to undermine the existing linguistic straitjackets that people are forced to wear.

I would think that people living in "border zones" would be very interested in such events. from my experience, in AP, KT, MH, CG, the people living in the border districts are comfortable in getting along in neighboring state's language. many people have close to bi-lingual proficiency. there is a large population that would be open to such initiatives.

Godavari-Krishna culture was already experimented by early Andhra kingdom from Pratishana to Amaravati. Prakrut got splintered into current-day Marati and Telugu. Water-based culture is old technology. Upperland folks are up against lowerland folks by showing Tamato and Tomato differences even though they were all originated from same ancient culture where as three regions that were from different cultures want together more.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Oct 2013 14:54

devesh wrote:for one thing, if that rivers based proposal has to receive any kind of traction, then Vidarbha+Chattisgarh+Telangana+UttaraKostaAndhra should start organizing some annual meetings of agricultural/trade/small-business/infra variety.

I don't think this idea has been explored that deeply yet. do any Indian States currently hold annual conferences/meetings which act as meeting-grounds for various people to come together and start inter-state projects, whether in agri/trade/business/NGO's or anything of the sort?

I think the idea merits some exploration. at worst, it might fizzle out in a few years. but if planned and executed well, I see a lot of potential to undermine the existing linguistic straitjackets that people are forced to wear.

I would think that people living in "border zones" would be very interested in such events. from my experience, in AP, KT, MH, CG, the people living in the border districts are comfortable in getting along in neighboring state's language. many people have close to bi-lingual proficiency. there is a large population that would be open to such initiatives.

Are they states inside the country called India or some different countries? Free market is the centuries old trade system for which west has propagated late. Trade fairs, capital investments and sales etc are all free market stuff. It is the stupid socialistic economy adaptation that has led to all the confusion in India. Go back to any period of time, there is always super wealthy population even when the poorest was happy with basic needs.

What is word "natural"? Does that apply anywhere? Historically from the unknown period got food habits based on what grows in their area. Rice eaters, wheat eaters, corn eaters raagi ball eaters. Based on the weather conditions you have very dry food eaters, gravy style food eaters and liquid food eaters.

The economy also is similar when you go back to basics. Why is that every country is not an agriculture based economy? Same natural course should apply. Where there is means of having purely agriculture based economy based on cost-benefits encourage more of that. Where there is lot of mineral wealth, encourage more of such variety. There are things that can be encouraged even in deserts.

India's natural diversity also should be used in the same fashion. This entire fancy for re-organization of states based on some cooked up theories, cooked up value systems is just borne out of multiple layers of jealousies and power mongering/destroying movements.

History tells us that the invaders (Mughal or British) divided these regions to ward off any military and independence movement challenges. The existing balance of that time has to be altered. Grievances and ambhi kumars will always be there when nationalistic authority collapses and are of great utility in divide and rule model. If you see the way the country was restructured, the erstwhile strong kingdoms are the ones that are splintered into Mysore, Madras, Bombay, etc. Basically Marathas, Rajputs, Vijayanagaras etc. Bengal is too huge community and was hence divided. The centristic kingdoms that are reasons for past glory such as Magadh are the ones that are splintered. The crap unnatural states such as Uttar Pradesh is now central. Instead if India has restored the past main Magadh (eastern UP, Bihar, Jharkhand, portions of Orissa etc) it would have been real independence. The Dilli billi would have been not existent.

All these spins are just hot air. A division of region is always not for the betterment of that divided parties. It is for the divider's hold over the power structure. Every other argument is pure hashish based bs.

The linguistic states are not born because of some parochial reasons even if the proponents may be chauvinists. After thousand years of alien rule, what India discovered in 1947 is that about 80% does not know how to read and write anything. It was an easy shot to have a government that can communicate and also exploit the pride in raising the spirits and put folks to growth path. It worked very well.

Same things for water resources based projects too. In 60s rice was imported from US. Because we did not agree on Kashmir after loss to chins, US stopped food supply. The first green revolution is to find a cheaper and quick infrastructure to produce. So they need motivate farmers to produce and in the process they did not even think of killing big farming. The investment is all done where there is bang for the buck. The emphasis was on lower lands and not on high lands. Finally the country was able to feed its citizens.

Let Telangana form because they don't like the face of their eastern and southern folks. But the fact is that this state is non-existing state before Moghuls. This is state that is just a Moghul invasion based one just like East Bengal (currently Bangladesh).

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 25 Oct 2013 15:19

Governor is still in Delhi. Met IB head yesterday. I am seriously wondering what IB doing there days? Are they briefing pappu log and involving themselves in all kinds of things. Degeneration may require purge after 2014.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Oct 2013 03:44

Muppalla, Replace Mogul with Muslim.It was the Khilji, Tughlaq and Bahmani Muslims that midwifed the split.

TN Seshan in a speech in Bay Area in 1994 said that Bihar is the key to North India and when it wakes up the North will revive. But present politicians wont let that happen.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 26 Oct 2013 03:59

Narayana Rao wrote:Governor is still in Delhi. Met IB head yesterday. I am seriously wondering what IB doing there days? Are they briefing pappu log and involving themselves in all kinds of things. Degeneration may require purge after 2014.

Working hard to cover up scams and neutralize terrorists, moles, etc. I'm sure they are keeping tabs on Modi. They will definitely need a purging if Modi comes to power.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 26 Oct 2013 04:18

Pretty much every GOI org and folks within have spent most of their lives under INC govt. Loyalties, sympathies, emotions all combine to make most old guard pro INC.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 26 Oct 2013 08:37

But the extent people degenerate never fails to make me sad. In AP we see an ex IB head, NTR daughter, leaders who won many times etc are all proved to be useless fellows. What can one say for people supporting Japan? Mafia is a distant thing but Jagan criminal actions are staring at people's face and yet some Telugu people support him.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Oct 2013 08:40

Well they were all mukhota or proxies. They did not win on their own merit or capability. Even Jagan's supporters are those who think they will get a free ride by band-wagoning with him.

Which ex IB director?

Rajeshwar?

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 26 Oct 2013 10:31

NTR daughter? You mean CBN's wife? I have heard that CBN had a thing for Jayaprada. But then this is all ancient history, right? Right?

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 27 Oct 2013 03:39

Muppala garu, good post

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 27 Oct 2013 16:12

Present governor of AP is an ex IB Director. Purandhareswari is NTR daughter who now with mafia. CBN got lot of help from Jayaprada in certain constitutional issues which I can not place in a public forum. She was made RS member by him. Later she drifted to UP and rest is well known.

Vamsi.R · Post by **Vamsi.R** » 27 Oct 2013 18:08

Narayana Rao wrote:Present governor of AP is an ex IB Director. Purandhareswari is NTR daughter who now with mafia. CBN got lot of help from Jayaprada in certain constitutional issues which I can not place in a public forum. She was made RS member by him. Later she drifted to UP and rest is well known.

NR ji did you see Konda Couple's Interview with RK

pretty interesting... she described how jagan and ysrcp operates

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 27 Oct 2013 19:54

http://newindianexpress.com/states/andh ... 845423.ece

Krishna water: Telangana may seek a new tribunal

The new Telangana state can approach the Centre for another tribunal on Krishna river water sharing in future. As the Brijesh Kumar Tribunal on Krishna water dispute between Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka is about to give its verdict, Telangana, when it becomes a state, can seek another tribunal to decide its share of Krishna water with its neighbouring state of Andhra Pradesh, an official in the irrigation department has said.

For the convenience of the Group of Ministers (GoM), which held its second meeting in Delhi on Saturday, the state irrigation department sent a detailed report on the status of irrigation projects and water sharing on Saturday. Though the report was prepared on Friday, top officials of the department made minor changes in it and sent it on Saturday for perusal by the GoM.

According to sources in the department, the report was sent on project-wise allocations and district-wise allotment. The Bachawat Committee allocated water for the United AP and it would not allocate water on regional basis, an official said.

The officials said that if both Telangana and Andhra Pradesh fought over sharing of water, they should approach the Centre, which would constitute a tribunal in future. As the water in Godavari, Krishna and Penna basins were allocated on project-wise basis, there would be no major changes after division. However, if there was any dispute in sharing flood waters or surplus waters, AP and Telangana should approach the Centre. “Water is a state subject. The Centre will not interfere in it. If there is any inter-state dispute then the Centre will intervene and constitute a tribunal,” an official explained.

However, the Brijesh Kumar Tribunal had already proposed constitution of a board to decide sharing of Krishna waters among the riparian states. The board will have jurisdiction right from its origin at Mahabaleswar in Maharashtra to the Prakasam barrage at Vijayawada. But it will have limited powers _ just fixing the share of the allocated water. In other words, it will just operate the gates at various projects. In case of a fresh dispute, a tribunal may be appointed in future.

Another official felt that like the Kaveri dispute between Tamil Nadu and Karnataka, there would be water disputes between Andhra Pradesh and Telangana. But some others see no problem since a board will be constituted on Krishna water irrespective of the division of the state as recommended by the Brijesh Kumar Tribunal. In case, Telangana government wanted more justice, it may ask for another tribunal, an official said.

good. so they're not just beating their chests but thinking on actually state formation.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 27 Oct 2013 19:58

devesh wrote:for one thing, if that rivers based proposal has to receive any kind of traction, then Vidarbha+Chattisgarh+Telangana+UttaraKostaAndhra should start organizing some annual meetings of agricultural/trade/small-business/infra variety.

I don't think this idea has been explored that deeply yet. do any Indian States currently hold annual conferences/meetings which act as meeting-grounds for various people to come together and start inter-state projects, whether in agri/trade/business/NGO's or anything of the sort?

I think the idea merits some exploration. at worst, it might fizzle out in a few years. but if planned and executed well, I see a lot of potential to undermine the existing linguistic straitjackets that people are forced to wear.

I would think that people living in "border zones" would be very interested in such events. from my experience, in AP, KT, MH, CG, the people living in the border districts are comfortable in getting along in neighboring state's language. many people have close to bi-lingual proficiency. there is a large population that would be open to such initiatives.

Modern Sapta-Sindhu: Structuring the Development of India along 7 Major River Basins - Part 1

Modern Sapta-Sindhu: Restructuring the Indian civilizational state - Part 2

cheers..

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BTW, great post, Muppalla ji..

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 27 Oct 2013 20:08

Atri ji, I think things are headed back in that direction again. there is bitterness now, so people will obviously oppose for the sake of opposing. but the issue will come up again in a few decades. and India's situation at that time will have its own effect. linguistic divisions might not last long. let's see how this effects other states in the neighborhood.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 27 Oct 2013 20:18

Muppalla garu, I'm not sure the Bahamanis or Muslims really engineered the split between the Telangana and Kosta.

Kakatiya dynasty achieved its widest extent for a very short period of time. for the most part, we see the same sniping and fighting between the "hinterland" kakatiyas trying to expand into the coast, and the coastal principalities and strongmen fighting for every inch of land.

let's not forget that the Kakatiyas were the subordinates of the Western Chalukyas. and they emerged as an independent entity by waging campaigns, first against the Eastern Chalukyas, and later against the left over remnants of the subordinates of EC.

the Kosta guys should be very careful when they say that they are only trying to "unify" the Telugu lands and nothing more, "why can't the T-vadis understand this?"

well, Kakatiya was trying to do the same thing. they succeeded for a short period of time. but only after subjugating the remnants of the Eastern Chalukyas (which is essentially the Coastal stretch of modern day Andhra Pradesh).

the current division goes back a long, long time. I think it even precedes the Palnati battle. the Muslims simply exploited it for their own benefit.

the rivalries which resulted in total splintering after defeat of Warangal by Ulug Khan is a really interesting period. this is where we see that the grand vision of the Kakatiyas is totally destroyed by the selfish designs of Padma Nayakas, and similar feelings of a section of the Coast which finally was free of Kakatiyas and could go back to the Eastern Chalukya dream-era.

the Musunuris are probably the last remnant section which retained the same "vision" of the Kakatiyas but failed due to overwhelming force of Velama+Muslims alliance on one side, and sniping and encroachment by the coastal Reddy chiefs on the other side.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 27 Oct 2013 23:58

Kkr wrote some letter on resolutions etc promised my diggi raja ( who asked him to believe diggi raja?) to the president and prime minister. It seems ~~Prasad~~ Pranab got angry and immediately referred to Shinde. All this on whether there will be two time - one resolution and one opinion on draft bill or just opinion on draft bill. Diggi told two and Shinde told only opinion. So KKR is angry now that he was mislead and gave public and false assurances to agitating NGO s and others.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Oct 2013 00:18

Narayana Rao, Who is this Prasad?

Also as a favor please stop posting from phone. Japan for Jagan!

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 28 Oct 2013 00:23

Pranab. I am still in bed sir. This isbthe best I can do with phone.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Oct 2013 00:38

OK. Will keep that in mind and help out by editing your posts.

Get well soon we all need you.
ramana

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 28 Oct 2013 19:00

Now, A Temple For Sonia In Telangana

The Telangana supporters have set up a wooden Gopuram and a portrait of Sonia Gandhi inside a room-like structure which will be developed into a full fledged temple after the Telangana state is formed.

The local Congress MP Ponnam Prabhakar says he will donate one crore rupees for the temple after the Telangana state comes into being.

“We will build a permanent temple for Sonia Gandhi after Telangana is formed," Prabhakar said.

He said that Sonia was being seen by the people of Telangana as "Devatha" (Goddess) because she honored the Telangana sentiments and granted statehood for the region.

The Telangana congress leaders, led by Prabhakar, said that they would offer daily prayers and rituals at the temple named as ' Telangana Devatha Pavitra Mandiram".

Temples for political leaders is not a new phenomenon in Andhra Pradesh. There are some temples for even film stars and heroines.

In Rajahmundry town, there is a temple for Indira Gandhi built by the local Godman Ramalinga Sidhanti.

In Krishna district, there is a temple for NTR and similarly there is temple for Chiranjeevi in West Godavari, a temple for Dr YS Rajasekhara Reddy in Kadapa, and also there was a small temple built for yesteryear heroine Jayaprada which was removed after she migrated to Uttar Pradesh.

http://www.greatandhra.com/politics/gos ... 50930.html

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 28 Oct 2013 19:08

This the first time I am hearing about many so called temples. Stupid news item glorifying chamber chagiri of politicos. i think the same Prabhakar left and contested against congress when he was not given ticket few years back.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 28 Oct 2013 19:12

Ponnam Prabhakar is going all out. is he vying for the CM post in Telangana?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 28 Oct 2013 19:27

Krishnam Raju to rejoin BJP?

http://www.sakshipost.com/index.php/new ... n-bjp.html

What effect will this have? Can he win at least his own Rajamahendry/Kakinada seat?

By the way, the BJP should be able to pick up a lot of disgruntled former Congressmen from SeemaAndhra after the Telangana Bill is tabled. It would be more in the way of mergers and acquisitions way of growing the BJP in the region, not organic growth, but it would be very possible for the BJP to grow in the region. Any chances of picking up KKR or PVN's son?

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 28 Oct 2013 19:37

No chance. BJP winning a coastal MP seat in the present condition? All the others need to do is show Sushma speech. Further he was never serious politico and Jagan criminal gang is quite strong in those parts. May be a prepoll alliance with CBN. then also it is difficult. I don't see any Bjp person getting deposits alone in 25 MP seats in near future may be next 10 to 15 years unless something great happens.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 28 Oct 2013 19:47

Narayana Rao wrote:No chance. BJP winning a coastal MP seat in the present condition? All the others need to do is show Sushma speech. Further he was never serious politico and Jagan criminal gang is quite strong in those parts. May be a prepoll alliance with CBN. then also it is difficult. I don't see any Bjp person getting deposits alone in 25 MP seats in near future may be next 10 to 15 years unless something great happens.

Don't you think it depends on what the BJP does about the Telangana bill in parliament? Almost every party has had leaders speaking in favour of Telangana (Including Naidu). Even YSR had spoken in favour of Telangana (so why is no one questioning Jagan on it?) If the BJP staunchly opposes the Telangana Bill, based on procedural objections (the GoM having no authority because no one from AP is in it,and that it has to be accepted by Andhra Assembly), would it not create a good impression in the minds of the Andhra people? Also, there is the question of where all the people from SeemaAndhra Congress are going to go. Unless they all migrate to Jagan, it is hard for me to believe they have another place to go (they cannot go to Naidu - they have been opposing him for the past 20 years).

PS: It all depends, IMHO, on two things. One - Assembly election results. Two - Telangana Bill. If the BJP wins all four Assemblies, and opposes the Telangana Bill, it can hope to grab some of the SeemaAndhra Congress leaders who will be departing it, and have a half decent chance of winning a few seats in SeemaAndhra.