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Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 09:58
by member_20317
SaiK wrote:
DATA RATE
40.00 kb/sec
FREQUENCY
2.29 GHz
POWER RECEIVED
5.37 x 10-55 kW
vina, the bandwidth is huge! it is multiplexing - perhaps TDM.

ps: I may be wrong in the definitions here.. but what I want to point is the data rate is 40kbps, and not the receiving capability of deep space network.

Bhai ji, Hindi mein bologe. It is difficult for back benchers like me to understand what the pipe is and what the nalki is.

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BTW can they download _orn :oops: from there. Martian _orn. Now that would be really something. What do you say dilbert.

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Congratulations to all of you guys.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 09:58
by ajay_hk
Shaastaang pranaams to everyone in ISRO and team Mangalyaan - for the dedication, hardwork, supreme sacrifices and sleepless nights. Time and again you've delivered and made Bharat proud and stand tall. You've done it again and again!!! Many many congratulations.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:00
by prashanth
Congrats ISRO! You have made us proud.
Waiting for the first pic now.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:01
by Pulikeshi
LokeshC - The article is by Pallava Bagla - so while the PeePeeSee peddles in scatology, why is the sepoy not being questioned?

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:01
by Comer
Disappointingly this is written by Pallav Bagla who is otherwise good with his reporting. One can't expect better from the woman who thinks of shit first, but he is of better standard

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:02
by SaiK
mars ji is 3.711 m/s² vs prithvi ji's 9.78 m/s². does this play into any calc?

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:04
by Pulikeshi
ISRO -- Congrats on a job well done! Thanks for the Navaratri gift! Yeh dil mange MOM :mrgreen:

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:04
by Kashi
LokeshC wrote:I am happy that BrishitBennCh*ds have not dissapointed me:

Many, however, say this bid to reach Mars is a "delusional dream" of India seeking super-power status since 400 million Indians still live without electricity and 600 million people still do not have access to toilets.
So once they started getting called out as racist drain-inspecting bennch*ds that they are, they change their song and dance and claim an anonymous "Many" have said that it is a "delusional dream". Who are these "Many" who claim this? Can the BennCh*ds answer that? This is worse than our DDM's anonymous source that cannot be named (aka I just pulled it out deep from my Musharraf).[/quote]
Pallava Bagla is a correspondent for Science and science editor for New Delhi Television.
This person is one of the "many".

To be fair, he adds
However, in real terms, the Mangalyaan has cost India just about four rupees (seven cents; four pence) per person - which is chicken feed for a country of 1.2 billion people.
but then then typically adds
India sees the Mars mission as an opportunity to beat its regional rival China in reaching the planet, and with destination Mars within touching distance, it may after all meet that target.
Who needs BrishitBennCh*ds when we have plenty of home-grown talent...

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:05
by Vayutuvan
It was very exciting. called four family members who i thought would be interested to watch the ISRO webcast.

sorry for shouting but

WHAT A DAY. CONGRATULATIONS TO ISRO AND THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THE BEST PRESENT EVER FOR MY B'DAY (albeit a day late but i am not complaining :) ).

PM NM ji put into words every Indian at heart felt about the achievement - I can never forget and very proud of India and the genius and hard work of its scientists.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:05
by vina
Modi Maamu's speeches and all that is fine. It seemed like he really enjoyed being here in the ISRO control room and let it know that he had a choice of weaseling out in case the mission was not as successful as it turned out to be, but he decided to stick with the folks . Appreciate that.

However, why doesn't ISRO strike the iron while it is hot and asks Mamu for a Rs 1000 cr funding to kick off a LCH4/LOX semi cryo stage for GSLV MKIII . We need to retire the Vikas engines and a RD-180 competitive LCH4/LOX stage is what we need. The WeakAss engines dont cut it anymore.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:06
by member_22733
Pulikeshi wrote:LokeshC - The article is by Pallava Bagla - so while the PeePeeSee peddles in scatology, why is the sepoy not being questioned?

Missed the sepoy shooting arrows from the shoulders of his massa.

This is probably the new style of "drain inspection" that we should come to expect. Get a sepoy to do the dirty racist work and always maintain plausible-deniability by using anonymous, "secret" sources.

Agni-V launch was the turning point for this I think.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:11
by negi
BBC has already slipped in a story with reference to snake charmers launching rakits. Anyways as they say dogs can only bark when an Elephant moves.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:12
by SaiK
vina wrote:Modi Maamu's speeches and all that is fine. It seemed like he really enjoyed being here in the ISRO control room and let it know that he had a choice of weaseling out in case the mission was not as successful as it turned out to be, but he decided to stick with the folks . Appreciate that.
don't want to chide here.. but I am 100% guarantee he is not a weasel. He will fight for India's win over kangrez baazis and commie scums who have destroyed Indian economy. /OT

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:13
by Dilbu
Waiting for that first photo eagerly to make it my wallpaper like a schoolboy.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:14
by Comer
Last time(I think launch of MOM) I spotted a reporter from Inglistan who was purposely asking for interviews the Indians on Twitter who were disparaging the effort. I have screenshots.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:15
by member_22733
negiji,

That (f)artical was written by a brown sepoy Pallava Bagla. I am just going through his twitter feed, he seems to be an otherwise sane person. Momentary Insanity perhaps ?

https://twitter.com/pallavabagla

Anyway, he works for ruNDTV. That almost explains everything.
saravana wrote:Last time(I think launch of MOM) I spotted a reporter from Inglistan who was purposely asking for interviews the Indians on Twitter who were disparaging the effort. I have screenshots.
Please post it sometime when you get a chance. Those posts are still likely to be there. Probably would have been used if Mangalyaan failed.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:16
by sivab
prasannasimha wrote:
Pretty quick we are to deride ISRO arent we :twisted:
Also if you go to ISRO's main page they have a blinking note saying orbital insertion is succesful.
I cannot fathom what is achieved by being sarcastic when a truly great achievement is done .Also I think they are more focused on telemetry, activation of payloads and data capture.
prasannasimhaji, hold your horses. IIRC, S^3 is a retd. ISRO and held some important position in managing satellites.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:19
by Dilbu
Did not hear the customary 'parfaraamance naarmal' this time. May be it got drowned in the applause. That is always something to lookout for and so reassuring. :D

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:19
by member_22733
sivab wrote:
prasannasimha wrote:
Pretty quick we are to deride ISRO arent we :twisted:
Also if you go to ISRO's main page they have a blinking note saying orbital insertion is succesful.
I cannot fathom what is achieved by being sarcastic when a truly great achievement is done .Also I think they are more focused on telemetry, activation of payloads and data capture.
prasannasimhaji, hold your horses. IIRC, S^3 is a retd. ISRO and held some important position in managing satellites.
SSSalvi is an ISRO insider :) He was being sarcastic in a very "proud-elder-brother" style

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:20
by member_26622
Awesome news and to happen with PM Narendra Modi standing alongside means a whole lot more.

Forget the English and BBC crap - Jealous old pr*cks. Just don't forget this anglo supremacist attitude when buying anything - defense or non defense goods from Eurofighter, BAE and other peddlers

Time to celebrate!

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:26
by SSSalvi
@ Prsannasimha


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Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:31
by Amber G.
Picture in todays Washington Post:
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Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:32
by Nitesh
Modi ji ke aane se MOM ke acche din aa gaye :D
Congratulations to all Indians

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:39
by member_28108
sivab wrote:
prasannasimha wrote:
Pretty quick we are to deride ISRO arent we :twisted:
Also if you go to ISRO's main page they have a blinking note saying orbital insertion is succesful.
I cannot fathom what is achieved by being sarcastic when a truly great achievement is done .Also I think they are more focused on telemetry, activation of payloads and data capture.
prasannasimhaji, hold your horses. IIRC, S^3 is a retd. ISRO and held some important position in managing satellites.
Then he should not speak ill of his brethren isnt it. I appreciate SSSalvi's inputs but this was also uncalled for - especially when he hadn't refreshed his page and the fault was his.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:40
by Vayutuvan
prasannasimha wrote:I dont think DD has anything to do as everything will be confirmed only at 7.58 so they ahve to keep some visuals on !! It is not like a regular count down !!
I was watching DD too. Their coverage was good. Why all these complaints sajjanon?

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:42
by Yayavar
AmberG: that references 'outside Nehru planetarium Bengaluru'...have fond memories of that. First platentarium for me and that too in fair company :).
That article has the ususal silliness in the last paragraph of 'extravagance' .... maybe old habits (of Editors) die hard.

(matrimc: happy birthday and birthday gift :))

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:44
by member_28108
SSSalvi wrote:@ Prsannasimha


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Please check the inside of the blog.
Also please note that that heading was "Press release" not the instantaneous updates which are there in the MOM page. Also the big flashing news that there was succesful injection is pretty obvious to see compared to the sidebar. Anyway not something to quibble when they already are giving data on the FB page and Twitter page apart from the actual MOM page on the ISRO website.
Prasanna

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:45
by Vayutuvan
SwamyG wrote:I love the engineer/technician/scientist with all the vibhuti on the forehead sitting along with his coworkers. Bold, Right and Beautiful :-)
That is prof. Yashpal if I am not wrong.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:49
by Supratik
Congrats ISRO. Superb.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:50
by AdityaM
I dont recall seeing white Lab-coats today on ISRO personnel

why were they not wearing labcoats!

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:54
by member_28108
Not sure if this true but Curiosity and MOM exchanged Namaste's according to NASA

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:55
by Sri
Congrats ISRO... You make us proud...

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:56
by Vayutuvan
Jayram wrote:This from ISRO page
"We've the signal. 1099 m/s. Expected - 1098.7 m/s"
What is this? And why is it important.. how does this relate to MOM insertion? Some gyan please thanks..
An error of ~ 1.0e-4. Somebody please say that this is good enough. Otherwise the orbit might start spurring inward. May be one more small burn is required later on at an opportune moment.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:57
by member_28108
Official twitter handle
https://twitter.com/MarsOrbiter

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:58
by member_28108
matrimc wrote:
Jayram wrote:This from ISRO page
"We've the signal. 1099 m/s. Expected - 1098.7 m/s"
What is this? And why is it important.. how does this relate to MOM insertion? Some gyan please thanks..
An error of ~ 1.0e-4. Somebody please say that this is good enough. Otherwise the orbit might start spurring inward. May be one more small burn is required later on at an opportune moment.
it is Nominaal

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 10:58
by SagarAg
prasannasimha wrote:Not sure if this true but Curiosity and MOM exchanged Namaste's according to NASA
Follow them to see their conversation- Both of them are in Jai-Veeru Mode :lol:
http://twitter.com/MarsOrbiter
http://twitter.com/MarsCuriosity

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 11:02
by member_28108
The first pictures will be released "Today evening" . BS Chandrashekar in an interview told that he is going to one of the ISRO centers for processing the data being transmitted by the color camera when he was asked what they are doing next.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 11:04
by Vayutuvan
shiv wrote:Let me say it now.
Mars Orbiter Mission will phail onleee :(( :(( :((
:rotfl:

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 11:07
by SSSalvi
Prasannasimha ji,

Gud is appreciated as gud ( 20sept2014 )
SSSalvi wrote:^^^
The four that you mentioned are good enough .. for near real time updates ISRO's MOM specific Facebook ( Der aye durust aye .. at last ISRO PR has taken up the task of info flow. ) is good.

If interested in seeing the simulated situations of most of the space based objects then download 'NASA Eyes' simulator. It gives excellent view of things ( one sample is my earlier post showing why there is no eclipse during MAVEN MOI.)
I had been sarcastic on ISRO webpage even when I was in ISRO ( before 2008 ) .. and received warning by seniors but they retracted after explanation

But Still .. no improvement.

BTW, this is my regular rant during every major event ( at least 10 of them .. like dilbu :wink: ) so you can forget me as a regular ' kirkiri' .. chhhodo yaar .. pagal to pagal hi raheta hai .. seekhanese se kuchh fayada nahi.

Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

Posted: 24 Sep 2014 11:10
by SSSalvi
AdityaM wrote:I dont recall seeing white Lab-coats today on ISRO personnel

why were they not wearing labcoats!
This was not Shriharikota .. this place is regular computer room.