Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 22 Oct 2009 21:34

I am thinking, what we call the Al Qaida, are the core of Arab and foreign fighters in FATA who have a anti Saud-royal family, anti US and Pan islamic agenda. Khilafat etc. Now these guys are important to the pakistanis because of the ideology they spout has caught on and is popular with the masses the world over. If the pak fauj controls these guys, they control the ideology and can direct it as they want to.

Then there are groups who desperately want to be more like the Al Quaida. LET in particular, which to begin with was directed by the ISI solely at India and Kashmir. Looks like some of the pan islamic thought process rubbed off on these guys and then they got that knife through the YYY flag logo. But then they soon got involved in Australia and Britain too.

The Taliban are I guess a collection of warring tribes and bandits, who got hold of sophisticated arms and guidance from the ISI-CIA in the 80s and then the ISI, and now see a future in looting and running a country instead of robbing travelers. Now most of these guys would be guns for hire, with allegiance to their tribal elders only. They all fear the Pak Fauj, and the Fauj keeps some disobedient tribes in line by shelling them and carrying out airstrikes. Pak Fauj's motive seems to be to direct them into afghanistan, so that the poppy trade gets back in their control and the monies get to the Pak fauj, and these guys in control of afghanistan allow pakistan strategic depth. In time these guys can be directed at India as and when needed. Just as the pak fauj used them in '47 and '65 to invade kashmir and essentially be cannon fodder to the Indian Army.

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 22 Oct 2009 21:35

There was a stage a few months ago when almost everybody agreed that it was just a few months more for the TSP to exist. This perhaps was a successful (seriously) effort by the Puki establishment resulting in the $1.5B p.a. lifeline. The whole tamasha was to get to this stage of comfort first of all. To their credit they also managed to get the SeS thing done on the way, successfully braving pressure resulting from 26/11.
It does not seem unlikely that certificates of compliance to the KPLD conditions will be readily made available at the required frequency. This should be encouraging to the PA (assuming that all the noise about so-virginity from last week was role-play).
On the other hand, tarrel than mountains fliend has joined the tango and really speaking there is lesser need for the PA to do anything adventurous on their own and possibly get into hot water again. All the pain-inducing activities can be done by the dragon while PA prepares for higher levels of mischief making.
Which of these would be play out?

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 22 Oct 2009 21:56

Rah-e-nijat

Another Historic fact is that the name had been developed by a group of students at Cambridge University who issued a pamphlet in 1933 called Now or Never. In this they made an anagram of 'A Jin(n) hater' (or was it Rat-e-Jinah) - some scholars say. They also came up with the term "Pakistan" as "composed of letters taken from the names the homelands: that is, Balochistan, Afghania [North-West Frontier Province], Kashmir, Iran , Sindh, Tukharistan, Afghanistan, (Last letter 'N' was in honor of Arabic script, which is written the other way eg and how Afghanistan, Baluchistan, etc .. all starts with 'N')

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 22 Oct 2009 22:19

Amber G. wrote:
Rah-e-nijat
Another Historic fact is that the name had been developed by a group of students at Cambridge University who issued a pamphlet in 1933 called Now or Never. In this they made an anagram of 'A Jin(n) hater' (or was it Rat-e-Jinah) - some scholars say. They also came up with the term "Pakistan" as "composed of letters taken from the names the homelands: that is, Balochistan, Afghania [North-West Frontier Province], Kashmir, Iran , Sindh, Tukharistan, Afghanistan, (Last letter 'N' was in honor of Arabic script, which is written the other way eg and how Afghanistan, Baluchistan, etc .. all starts with 'N')

It started with Punjab.
Or was a little joke from your side?

Umrao Das · Post by **Umrao Das** » 22 Oct 2009 22:22

so Na Paki is honorofic

"according to naked sage Fakruddin PBUH"

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 22 Oct 2009 22:23

Amber G. wrote:
Rah-e-nijat
Another Historic fact is that the name had been developed by a group of students at Cambridge University who issued a pamphlet in 1933 called Now or Never. In this they made an anagram of 'A Jin(n) hater' (or was it Rat-e-Jinah) - some scholars say. They also came up with the term "Pakistan" as "composed of letters taken from the names the homelands: that is, Balochistan, Afghania [North-West Frontier Province], Kashmir, Iran , Sindh, Tukharistan, Afghanistan, (Last letter 'N' was in honor of Arabic script, which is written the other way eg and how Afghanistan, Baluchistan, etc .. all starts with 'N')

Oh that explain B in Bakistan.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 22 Oct 2009 22:37

^^^ Exactly.. as in "Bakistan: Emirate of New-clear Inquilabi States...."

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 22 Oct 2009 22:41

Well they have to decide weather they want that "B" in there or the "P" in there.

Either way R&AW will help them out.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 22 Oct 2009 22:49

Amber G. wrote:^^^ Exactly.. as in "Bakistan: Emirate of New-clear Inquilabi States...."

Now we need to find out how rah-e-rust and rah-e-faq came about.

Johann · Post by **Johann** » 22 Oct 2009 23:09

KV Rao wrote:you have put your finger on why we cannot expect Pakistan to change. The most liberal Pakistani candle-kissers still swear by Jinnah as the ultimate ideal. If only Zia hadn't shown up on the scene, Pakistan would have been a liberal paradise, according to them. We know that in reality, it was Jinnah that sowed the seeds of both fanaticism / supremacism as well as being America's rent-boy.

Pakistan relies on a militarised Islamist ideology because between the lack of a strong national identity and a political class made of squabbling feudal robber-barons it has nothing else to hold it together.

Pakistan might have had half a chance to become a normal state if it had adopted a confederated structure that provided space for all of its different ethnic communities to have the political space they needed, but its ruling classes were far too greedy and insecure. The only way to maintain a powerful centralised state without democracy was more and more Islamism, more and more power for the PA.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 22 Oct 2009 23:29

SSridhar wrote:The assassinated Brigadier was head of UN Peace keeping Mission in the Sudan - DAWN
Head of the United Nations peace-keeping mission in Sudan and former deputy director general military operations Brigadier Moinuddin Ahmed was assassinated, along with another army official in a shootout in Islamabad on Thursday.

Brigadier Moin was visiting Pakistan and was expected to return to Sudan at the UN mission tomorrow.

Interesting. The UN postings of a country's mil personnel are used by CIA/FSB/MI5 etc to recruit those guys as their agents. This has been a long tradition, and probably that's why India tries to rotate its officers as fast and as much as possible. Longer the term, higher the danger. I wonder if this Moin chap was recruited already bu unkil. .......

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 23 Oct 2009 01:13

How cricket can save the world ---- David Ignatius.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 23 Oct 2009 01:17

Seeking Fissures Between Taliban and Al Qaeda

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Oct 2009 01:57

TSPA will probably clean out Pashtuns from the big cities and claim they are Afghan refugees.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Oct 2009 02:04

pgbhat wrote:How cricket can save the world ---- David Ignatius.

This is not funny anymore. Next you will have Ombaba calling up MMS to allow an Indo-pak cricket match series.
I am serious. SES will be forgotten, 2611 will be forgotten.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 23 Oct 2009 02:11

Gagan wrote: This is not funny anymore. Next you will have Ombaba calling up MMS to allow an Indo-pak cricket match series.
I am serious. SES will be forgotten, 2611 will be forgotten.

Looks like Ignatius is ISPRs contractor.

.... first that lifafa article now this.

jash_p · Post by **jash_p** » 23 Oct 2009 03:35

Something is penitratitng in Butt's Butt. He is on Jihad to make India play with TALL AND FAIR MUSHRAFFS in land of TALLER THAN MOUNTAIN AND DEEPER THAN HIS BUTT.

Butt to discuss Indo-Pak ODI at neutral venue
PTI 22 October 2009, 09:17pm IST
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KARACHI: Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ejaz Butt is visiting India next week reportedly to hold talks with Indian cricket officials for a
bilateral One-day series at a neutral venue next year.

Butt confirmed today he would hold meetings with the Pakistan High Commissioner in New Delhi and meet Indian board and government officials there, but refused to divulge the details.

"I don't want to go into the details of this visit and I will give details when I return home," Butt said.

Sources close to Butt indicated that the visit was linked to attempts by Pakistan to convince the Indian board and International Cricket Council to arrange a bilateral one-day series at a neutral venue next year.

He is also expected to discuss with the Indian Cricket Board officials the Future Tours Programme and Pakistani players' participation in the Indian Premier League.

"It is no secret that the PCB is keen to play a short bilateral series with India even at a neutral venue and has also sought the cooperation of the ICC in this regard," a source said.

He said Butt's meeting with Pakistan High Commissioner and Indian board officials could also be linked to paving the way for Pakistani players to eventually take part in the third Indian Premier League season next year.

"Pakistani players are keen to take part in the lucrative IPL next year after having missed out on the opportunity this year. The Indian board will have to seek clearance from its government to play Pakistan in a bilateral series at a neutral venue or allow Pakistani players to take part in the IPL," the source added.

Butt also confirmed that China had offered to host the next Asia Cup and for this purpose was preparing an international standard ground.

"China is keen to play host and it is an exciting prospect for Asian cricket," he said.

Malaysia was initially picked as the venue for the next Asia Cup at the last Asian Cricket Council meeting.

Sources said Butt could also utilise his visit to hold talks with the Indian officials about the possibility of having the tournament in China.

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 23 Oct 2009 04:01

pakis can play cricket with taller than mountain friends china.Why they need india, since everything in
porkistan comes from china so finally pakis can pay them back for service chi-panda provided.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 23 Oct 2009 04:11

Gagan wrote: This is not funny anymore. Next you will have Ombaba calling up MMS to allow an Indo-pak cricket match series.
I am serious. SES will be forgotten, 2611 will be forgotten.

Oh, I have an idea ! Lets start off by arranging a Lanka-Pak match in Lahore !

kasthuri · Post by **kasthuri** » 23 Oct 2009 05:59

Obama likely to sign Pak aid bill with curbs

US military aid: text of clauses relevant to Pakistan
The following is the text of clauses relevant to Pakistan in the US defence bill which includes tough conditions on military aid:

End-use restrictions: The Secretary of Defence shall establish and carry out a programme to provide for the registration and end-use monitoring of defence articles and defence services transferred to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The Secretary of Defence may exempt a defence article or defence service from the registration and end-use monitoring requirements if he deems it in the US interest to do so.

Assessment of US-Pakistan military relations:
(a) Assessment: The Secretary of Defence, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall conduct an assessment of possible alternatives to reimbursements to Pakistan for logistical, military, or other support provided by Pakistan to or in connection with United States military operations, which could encourage the Pakistani military to undertake counterterrorism and counterinsurgency operations and achieve the goals and objectives for long-term United States-Pakistan military relations and cooperation.

(b) Report- Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defence shall submit to the appropriate congressional committees a report on the assessment required under subsection (a).
Security and stability in Pakistan:
(a) Assessments Require- Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 180 days thereafter, the US president shall conduct an assessment, which shall be not more than 30 days in duration, of the progress toward long-term security and stability in Pakistan.
(b) The president should assess:
(1) The effectiveness of efforts
(A) to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat Al Qaeda, its affiliated networks, and other extremist forces in Pakistan;
(B) to eliminate the safe havens for such forces in Pakistan; and
(C) to prevent the return of such forces to Pakistan or Afghanistan; and
(2) the effectiveness of United States security assistance to Pakistan to achieve the strategic goal described in paragraph (1).

(c) Requirement to Develop Goals and Objectives and Timelines: For any area assessed under subsection (b), the US president, in consultation with the government of Pakistan and the governments of other countries, shall establish goals and objectives and timelines for meeting such goals and objectives.

(d) Requirement to Develop Metrics: The US president shall develop metrics that allow for the accurate and thorough assessment of progress toward each goal and objective and along each timeline required.

(e) Report Required:
(1) In General: Not later than 30 days after the completion of each assessment required under subsection (a), the US president shall transmit to Congress a report on the assessment.
(2) Elements: The report required should include, at a minimum, the following elements:
(B) A description of the goals and objectives and timelines for meeting such goals and objectives required under subsection (c).
(C) A description of the metrics required (d) and how such metrics were used to assess progress in each area required to be assessed under subsection (b).
(3) Form: The report required shall be transmitted in unclassified form, but may contain a classified annex if necessary.

(f) Sunset: The requirement to conduct assessments shall not apply beginning on the date that is 5 years after the date of the enactment of this Act.

James B · Post by **James B** » 23 Oct 2009 06:04

Top guns of Punjabi Taliban captured

Security agencies have arrested two of the highest ranking Punjabi Taliban commanders, who are believed to have masterminded the 10/10 attack on Army’s General Headquarters (GHQ) and other high-profile strikes in Lahore.

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 23 Oct 2009 06:07

TFT is out

Terrorist surge from two ‘souths’

Khaled Ahmed
The national consensus focuses on South Waziristan as the dangerous hinterland of terror which must be targeted. There is no national consensus on South Punjab being the home of terrorist planning and manpower supply

After the success of the army operation in Malakand and the not-insignificant pacification of Bajaur, the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) took time to regroup. The new leader Hakimullah, it seems, has unleashed a new surge of terrorism in Pakistan. Although some have noted that the surge was not directly traceable to Hakimullah who may not have known the plans when he was finally ‘chosen’, it has been attributed to the more flamboyant new TTP leader.

Excluding South Punjab from ‘threat areas’: The plotting of the surge has been traced to South Waziristan and South Punjab. In the first ‘south’ there are warlords who announce the ownership of acts of terrorism; in the second south, increasingly, the terrorist act is itself planned and executed. The national consensus focuses on South Waziristan as the dangerous hinterland of terror which must be targeted. There is no national consensus on South Punjab being the home of terrorist planning and manpower supply.

The Punjab government says South Punjab is not the stronghold of the TTP. It denies that there is such a thing as Tehreek-e-Taliban Punjab. Significantly, the Punjab governor too has asserted that South Punjab is not home to the Taliban and is not the area Pakistan should target. This points to the development of a consensus in Islamabad that while South Waziristan is being targeted with a military operation, South Punjab should not be highlighted in a strategy of attacking both at the same time.

The evidence in South Punjab: A Pakistani scholar who works for the FATA Secretariat in Peshawar says: “Southern Punjab comprises…13 districts having a total population of approximately 27 million. These districts include Bahawalnagar, Bahawalpur, Bhakker, [Dera Ghazi] Khan, Jhang, Khanewal, Layyah, Lodhran, Multan, Muzaffargarh, Rahim Yar Khan, Rajanpur, and Vehari. While the insurgency situation in NWFP and FATA is well documented, it is Southern Punjab that is emerging as an insurgency hub. In all, 304 persons, including 257 Security Forces personnel and 34 civilians, were killed in 78 terrorism-related incidents in Punjab in 2008”.

In 2009, two incidents concentrated the Punjabi mind further on the south. A terrorist named Junaid was arrested in Lahore as one of those involved in the attack on the Sri Lankan team. The terrorist confessed to being a member of the Punjab Taliban, affiliated with the banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi with links to Al Qaeda. In June, the police arrested Riaz Kamboh in Mian Channun recovering massive quantities of weapons, suicide jackets and rocket launchers. It is only after his arrest that the local population was willing to testify that he was a member of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and a terrorist.

Building ‘defensive’ consensus on South Punjab: Much like Swat, the people of Mian Channun were intimidated into accepting Kamboh as the local strongman who could actually tutor their children as a local teacher too. The FATA Secretariat study warned: “There is a clear indication that the Taliban-Al Qaeda network is securing the upper hand in Southern Punjab and that the extremists are bringing conflict to Pakistan’s most populated and economically vibrant province. The presence of many militant groups in the province is alarming”.

The NWFP government, which has welcomed the military operation in South Waziristan, equally recommends tough measures against the terrorists helping the Taliban from their strongholds in South Punjab. It seems that it has yet to join the consensus in Islamabad over whether or not South Punjab is to be targeted. Interior Minister Rehman Malik used to agonise over South Punjab; he no longer does that. It is possible that Peshawar too will fall in line in the coming days.

The two strategic ‘souths’: For British India, Waziristan was always a buffer against Afghanistan. Out of this buffer South Waziristan was the secondary buffer, since North Waziristan had more area abutting on Afghanistan and would be overwhelmed sooner if an attack came. Today, it is not the Durand Line that defines the two types of Taliban but the line that divides North and South Waziristan. When Al Qaeda and its allies fled Afghanistan in 2001, South Waziristan was their destination, the North being too ‘frontline’ and exposed.

South Punjab is sociologically backward, somewhat like the tribal areas. What is common however is the strategic significance of the two regions. Both were used in the strategy of jihad, one against the Soviet Union and its allies in the post-Soviet invasion Afghanistan, the other against India in the jihad in Kashmir. Since South Punjab’s jihadi recruits were used also in Afghanistan, no separation of the two was possible for the planners. Today the attempt to strategically separate the two has become difficult for these reasons.

South Punjab and the India factor: The strategic significance of South Punjab has ‘frozen’ because of the unchanging over-all strategy of defence against India in case of aggression. South Punjab abuts the Indian state of Rajasthan which is a major Indian military base challenging the narrowest strip of territory in an already strategically shallow Pakistan. (Forgivable aside: the Pakistani quest for strategic depth.) The jihadi outfits that attacked inside Kashmir came from the training camps also located in the desert of South Punjab. Attacking them as a part of the campaign to end terrorism will therefore be hazardous because of reverse ‘handler indoctrination’.

The choice of South Punjab as their ‘supplier’ hinterland by the Taliban depended on the local empowerment of their jihadi friends. The current Seraiki Movement for the separation of South Punjab from the rest of Punjab has carefully stepped aside from opposing the local jihadi militias as legacies of the North’s covert war against India. Both the feudal lords and the middle class agitating for Seraiki Suba have decided not to complicate the Movement by calling for the elimination of the terrorists.

India factor and Pakistan’s survival: It makes military sense not to take on the Taliban in South Waziristan and their allies in South Punjab at the same time. The army is still deployed against India on the eastern border, the most significant part of this frontline being in South Punjab facing Indian Rajasthan. While Pakistan can avoid ‘boots on the ground’ policy in the mountains, it will have to rely more on parallel civilian action through intelligence in the plains of Punjab. Above all, it will have to complete the process of disengagement from the jihadis. This month, it had to let Hafiz Said off the hook at the Lahore High Court because it had not yet banned his Jama’at-ud Dawa.

South Punjab is not a territorial entity; it is a linguistic region. It interfaces with Punjab and in some ways feeds into the Islamist-terrorist instincts of the entire province. The Lal Masjid complex of Islamabad emanated in the sectarian chaos of South Punjab, in Dera Ghazi Khan. Its instincts were primal but its ambitions were national through linkages with the state agencies and global through Al Qaeda. The state of Pakistan will sooner or later have to decide how much of this agenda it will allow in order to secure itself against disintegration.

James B · Post by **James B** » 23 Oct 2009 06:11

A new security force likely

THE government is trying to create an alternative intelligence and military system in the country in trying to bypass the army and the ISI.

The same was experimented during their rule in 1970s and they are repeating it now. A new intelligence agency is also being planned along with the Federal Security Force.

According to a report, the federal government is likely to reintroduce the Federal Security Force (FSF), formerly launched by ZAB in the early 70s but dismantled by the martial law regime of Gen Ziaul Haq

James B · Post by **James B** » 23 Oct 2009 06:13

A state of denial

By Shahid M. Amin

The GHQ attack has drawn accusations from several quarters in Pakistan that it was inspired by foreign powers; some have named India and the US among the usual suspects. Such ‘experts’ rarely bother to give any concrete evidence to substantiate their charges, which are based mainly on conjecture.

After reading this you might think this fellow shows less pakiness, but but he shows his pakiness in last para.

Nevertheless, the onus lies on the US to rehabilitate its image in the Muslim world. It must end its blind support for Israel. The US withdrawal from Iraq must be expedited. The US should play a role to help resolve the Kashmir dispute. Barack Obama has a historic opportunity to change the Bush-era policies and build bridges between the US and the Muslim world. It remains to be seen how far he can rise to the occasion.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Oct 2009 06:15

ramana wrote:TSPA will probably clean out Pashtuns from the big cities and claim they are Afghan refugees.

And get away with it too. I don't see who or why will raise hell about it anyway.

And then I find there're some confidently claiming prc can't do something like this with its troublemakers, in a planned, 'rational' drip-drip way.... as if prc is less of a police state than tsp is. OK, tsp is an 'army state', not quite a police state but you get the idea...

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Oct 2009 06:25

Hari Seldon wrote:
ramana wrote:TSPA will probably clean out Pashtuns from the big cities and claim they are Afghan refugees.
And get away with it too. I don't see who or why will raise hell about it anyway.

And then I find there're some confidently claiming prc can't do something like this with its troublemakers, in a planned, 'rational' drip-drip way.... as if prc is less of a police state than tsp is. OK, tsp is an 'army state', not quite a police state but you get the idea...

I really hope they do clean up Pushtuns from Pakjab, onlee then the Pushtuns will realize the true nature of Ajlaf Pakjabis >

James B · Post by **James B** » 23 Oct 2009 06:31

Pervez Hoodbhoy, in his eminently lucid book Muslims and Science, gave examples of Pakistani nuclear scientists who engaged in research into the supernatural. In a conference on miracles in Islam organised in Islamabad under Zia, one of our scientists presented a paper on the possibility of tapping the energy of djinns to meet our power requirements. Another worked out how to calculate the degree of hypocrisy in society.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... he-fittest

James B · Post by **James B** » 23 Oct 2009 06:35

Illegal Afghans given 72 hours to leave Islamabad

Interior Minister Rehman Malik has issued a 72-hour notice for illegal Afghans living in Islamabad to leave the capital.

Rehman Malik has also ordered a door-to-door search in five major sectors of the capital, including G9, G10 and G11. The objective of this search is to hunt down illegal Afghans and terrorists.

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 23 Oct 2009 06:36

Gagan wrote:
Brigadier Moin was visiting Pakistan and was expected to return to Sudan at the UN mission tomorrow.

[/quote]
But why was the Brigadier was taken out? Looks like some Somalese in the "gair mulki dehshatgard" group got a supari from their brethren back in somalia to do the job. Somalia is the second home of the AQAM after Af-Pak which is now ground zero. Notice how AQ tries to protect its turf both somalia and Af-Pak.[/quote]
Strat commenting:
"Photographs show the front windshield of the vehicle with more than a dozen well-grouped bullet holes, suggesting one gunman focused on killing the driver in order to disable the vehicle. This would make it easier for a second team to kill the general because the vehicle would then be stationary. A second group of bullet holes on the passenger side of the front windshield was much more tightly grouped. The second group of bullets was possibly fired from a closer range on a stationary target – and by a well-trained shooter."

James B · Post by **James B** » 23 Oct 2009 06:39

Kashmir ‘quiet diplomacy’ under way: Chidambaram

The Indian government is working on “quiet diplomacy” as part of efforts to resolve the Kashmir issue, and “this will only be made public after the desired results are achieved”, Indian Home Minister P Chidambaram has said.

“There will be a unique, honourable and acceptable solution to the problem in Jammu and Kashmir. We are working on it,” Chidambaram told reporters last week on the sidelines of the All India Editors’ Conference in Srinagar.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Oct 2009 06:40

Hari Seldon wrote:
ramana wrote:TSPA will probably clean out Pashtuns from the big cities and claim they are Afghan refugees.
And get away with it too. I don't see who or why will raise hell about it anyway.

And then I find there're some confidently claiming prc can't do something like this with its troublemakers, in a planned, 'rational' drip-drip way.... as if prc is less of a police state than tsp is. OK, tsp is an 'army state', not quite a police state but you get the idea...

Not all Pasthuns are Afghans. So they will settle accounts later.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Oct 2009 07:20

Brigadier 'assassinated'

This is supposed to have been a drive by shooting.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Oct 2009 07:24

The judiciary rears its head for the service of justice in pakistan.

SC fines Centre, Punjab in Hafiz Saeed case

ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court on Thursday imposed a Rs 10,000 fine each on the federal and Punjab government for not “seriously pursuing” appeals against the release of Jamaatud Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed by the Lahore High Court (LHC). The bench consisted of Justice Anwar Jamali, Justice Khilji Hussain and Justice Tariq Pervaiz. The acting attorney general asked for more time to get the relevant case record. The bench adjourned proceedings for a month. masood rehman

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Oct 2009 07:29

Wimmen's Lib comes to Pakistan. Please please read in full.

Female Jihadists demand right to fight

Female Muslim extremists are fuming after al-Qaeda’s No.2 leader, Ayman al-Zawahri, told them they should stay at home and mind their children. The influential commander of the terrorist organisation believes that women should limit themselves to domestic jihad.

In an interview posted on an extremist website, he claimed that al-Qaeda does not have any women in its terrorist network.

Female al-Qaeda supporters anonymously replied to his comments with internet petitions pleading to let them join the terrorist organisation’s ranks.

“When Sheikh Ayman al-Zawahri said there are no women in al-Qaeda, he saddened and hurt me,” wrote one woman, who used the pseudonym Rabeebat al-Silah, Arabic for Companion of Weapons.

Rita Katz, director of the SITE Intelligence Group, an organisation that monitors militant websites, said: “Women were very disappointed because what al-Zawahri said is not what's happening today in the Middle East, especially in Iraq or in Palestinian groups.”

“Suicide operations are being carried out by women, who play an important role in jihad,” she said.

In Iraq, women have carried out or attempted at least 20 suicide bombings since 2003.

There are religious taboos in Iraq against involving women in fighting. But as security tightens, extremists are desperately recruiting females and youths to stage suicide attacks, according to Associated Press.

Women can avoid thorough searches at checkpoints because of Islamic sensitivities.

...

A niche magazine has popped up online with articles on women's terrorist training camps, according to SITE.

Its first issue, with a hot pink cover and gold embossed lettering, appeared in 2004 with the lead article “Biography of the Female Mujahadeen.”

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 23 Oct 2009 07:32

^^^

Its first issue, with a hot pink cover and gold embossed lettering, appeared in 2004 with the lead article “Biography of the Female Mujahadeen.”

archan · Post by **archan** » 23 Oct 2009 07:34

Now just wait for a pink burqa campaign. Zawahiri's office will start receiving tons of pink burqas in the mail.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Oct 2009 07:37

Looks like "Playmullah" has officially hit the stands.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 23 Oct 2009 07:46

raghunath wrote:
Pervez Hoodbhoy, in his eminently lucid book Muslims and Science, gave examples of Pakistani nuclear scientists who engaged in research into the supernatural. In a conference on miracles in Islam organised in Islamabad under Zia, one of our scientists presented a paper on the possibility of tapping the energy of djinns to meet our power requirements. Another worked out how to calculate the degree of hypocrisy in society.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... he-fittest

I have no doubt that Hichuer is a hero to many Muslims who remain mired in a permanent sense of paranoia and past grievances, real and imagined. When I mentioned A.Q. Khan’s nuclear proliferation activities in a recent article, I was attacked by several readers for not appreciating his efforts to make Pakistan a nuclear power. And now, as the Kerry-Lugar Bill continues to be criticised, in part because it seeks to curb future proliferation, I am sure many Pakistanis will fulminate against the injustice of the American legislation. But the harsh reality is that life is unfair; and as Darwin has outlined in his theory of evolution, only the fittest survive and prosper.

Is Irfan Hussain trying to say that pakistanis are not fit for survival? A big blow to H&D, I guess........

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 23 Oct 2009 08:09

Breaking News!!!!

Suicide blast kills three people outside an aeronautical complex(kamra) in Pakistan on Friday.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 23 Oct 2009 08:10

I would appeal to Ayman al-zawahiri to allow female jehadi piglets to also participate in suicide bombings in TSP. After all to paraphrase Woody Allen, it doubles chances of success..