Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2010

[ramana]

^^^So Pakis are now providing legtimacy to KSA sheiks by supplying daughters?

Sons, daughters, birds of prey. What's the difference?

Those three words mark the history and legitimacy of the Ibn Saud family in KSA.

Ibn Saud traces current legitimacy from the marriage alliance with Ibn Wahab. By marrying into the Sharif family he can ensure the future progeny can supplant the Hashemite claims on Arabia and Hejaz in particular.

If you think all this is spin, try to look up how the Abbasid dynasty got its legitimacy in Al Anbar province!

[menon s]

At 2.8% growth Pakistan if left unchecked would be the third largest population in the wold after China and india in 2050! i hope we indians give due thought to that. we need to break up Pakistan, if not i wonder what these retards would do to us.

[RajeshA]

^^^So Pakis are now providing legtimacy to KSA sheiks by supplying daughters?

Sons, daughters, birds of prey. What's the difference?

Those three words mark the history and legitimacy of the Ibn Saud family in KSA.

Ibn Saud traces current legitimacy from the marriage alliance with Ibn Wahab. By marrying intot he Sharif family he can ensure the future progeny can supplant the Hashemite claims on Arabia and Hejaz in particular.

If you think all this is spin, try to look up how the Abbasid dynasty got its legitimacy in Al Anbar province!

Usually it is the Subcontinental Muslims who are looking for support and legitimacy from the Saudis! Nawaz Sharif's family can't be the only one tracing its roots from the prophet. There must be so many families who do that, especially in Saudi Arabia.

[ramana]

I get the feeling that uncle is the one stirring things in Baluchistan. The TSPA mouthpieces know this and blame India to make uncle know they know. So there is an element of kabuki or shadow boxing going on.

Karzai admitting hosting Bugti is with uncle's backing. India with its emabssy and other places bombed by ISI without any retaliation is hardly in a position to back Karzai in such a serious adventure.

The game seems to be to spin Baluch away from TSP. They hold TSP close in embrace while cutting of one arm. Meanwhile blame India which is what TSP mind likes to believe. Keep showing the illusion of Kashmir to distract the fools.

Thats whats going on.

[Rangudu]

Ramana

Actually, it is likely to be one of the areas where UK makes its usefulness known. Given that some of the Baloch leaders operate from UK and some have been given asylum in Ireland, it defies logic to believe that UK does not run all of this, even if it is as proxy for Unkil. Whatever little intel that Unkil has on the Quetta Shura, who do you think provides it?

[Jarita]

Not sure where to put this

http://www.hackerregiment.com/indian-ha ... ttack.html

26th November 2010, two years from the dark day for the Indians when few Islamic terrorists from Pakistan opened fire at few key public places of Mumbai, killing around 175 people and wounding many.

A group of young and enthusiastic Indian hackers, tagged as Indian Cyber Army (ICA) powered by indishell.in, carried a mass defacement operation against many public and official websites belonging to Pakistan in order to pay their homage to the martyr of the terrorist incident. Hacker Regiment sources talked to few hackers belonging to ICA to understand their modus operandi behind such cyber attacks. Jackh4x0r and LuCkY told that most of the group members are already well settled and earning good money out of their professions. “Monetary benefits is not the motivation for any of the group members to carry out such cyber attacks, this particular attack was to convey a message to the Pakistani citizens on opposing the terror route being followed by their nation to disturb neighbours. And 26/11 was the ideal time for conveying this message when our brave soldiers laid their precious life for the country people” said Jackh4x0r.

Apart from Jackh4x0r and LuCkY, other ICA team members behind this mass defacement include -[SiLeNtp0is0n]-, Str1k3r, InX_ro0t, Darkl00k,Ne0h4ck3r, Mr52, Th3.rdx, G00gl3warr10r, Atuldwivedi, c00lt0ad, eXesouL

“We created a web page displaying pictures of our brave soldiers along with a highly patriotic Indian song as background music to express our anger. We wish that every Pakistani should listen to the background music and read our message, for which we compromised key Pakistani websites and then uploaded our web page to those” added LuCkY.

Hacker Regiment found that couple of sensitive and official Pakistani websites were also compromised during this attack. Agent008 from Hacker Regiment, who has been instrumental in few classified cyber security assignments said that “Indian government can very well utilize such highly motivated and skilled resources to work for the nation, the way Chinese Cyber Army works for China Liberation Army but I think our nation is not yet ready to change the working mode for Cyber Security from sleeping mode to aggressive mode”. “We are waiting for a destructive Cyber Attack, much like the Stuxnet worm but much beyond the destruction it could cause, against our critical infrastructure to switch the working mode” he added. Hacker Regiment found that few critical websites were cleaned within 24hrs and some are still displaying the ICA uploaded page.

ICA shared the list of websites compromised during the cyber attack against Pakistan carried on 26/11 2010. Below is the list of compromised websites with the screenshot of the upload webpage:

http://www.pastic.gov.pk/indian.html PAKISTAN SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNOLOGY CENTER
http://www.paknavy.gov.pk/indian.html PAKISTAN NAVY OFFICIAL PORTAL
http://www.nrb.gov.pk/indian.html NATIONAL RECONSTRUCTION BUREAU
http://www.nfdc.gov.pk/indian.html NATIONAL FERTILIZER DEVELOPMENT CENTER
http://www.niopk.gov.pk/indian.html NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF OCEANOGRAPHY PAKISTAN
http://www.neas.gov.pk/indian.html NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSESSMENT SYSTEM (NEAS)
http://www.nab.gov.pk/indian.html National Accountability Bureau
http://www.navtec.gov.pk/indian.html National Vocational & Technical Education Commission (NAVTEC)
http://www.dgto.gov.pk/indian.html Director General Trading Organisations
http://www.mofa.gov.pk/indian.html Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Government of Pakistan
http://www.msa.org.pk/indian.html Maritime Security Agency Government of pakistan
http://www.na.gov.pk/indian.html NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OF GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN
http://www.topians.edu.pk/indian.html WRITTEN EXAMINATION RESULT PAF PUBLIC SCHOOL LOWER TOPA
http://www.usc.com.pk/indian.html Utility Stores Corporation Ministry of Industries
http://www.vepcon.gov.pk/indian.html National Talent Pool of Govrnment of pakistan
http://www.sindh.gov.pk/indian.html OFFICIAL PORTAL OF SINDH GOVERNMENT ( MINISTER SITE )
http://www.sindhpolice.gov.pk/indian.html OFFICIAL PORTAL OF SINDH POLICE OF GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN
http://www.pifra.gov.pk/indian.html PROJECT TO IMPROVE FINANCIAL REPORTING AND AUDITING
http://www.pmad.gov.pk/indian.html Pakistan Military Accounts Department
http://www.pmnh.gov.pk/indian.html PAKISTAN MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY
http://www.pwd.gov.pk/indian.html PAKISTAN PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL PORTAL
http://www.pcb.gov.pk/indian.html PCB- Pakistan Computer Bureau
http://www.pcret.gov.pk/indian.html PAKISTAN COUNCIL OF RENEWABLE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES
http://www.pcrwr.gov.pk/indian.html PAKISTAN COUNCIL OF RESEARCH IN WATER RESOURCES
http://www.pcsir.gov.pk/indian.html MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY GOVT OF PAKISTAN
http://www.pha.gov.pk/indian.html PAKISTAN HOUSING AUHORITY MINISTRY OF HOUSING AND WORKS
http://www.agp.gov.pk/indian.html OFFICIAL PORTAL OF AUDITOR GENRAL OF PAKISTAN
http://www.alp.gov.pk/indian.html OFFICIAL PORTAL OF AGRICULTURAL LINKAGES PROGRAMME OF PAKISTAN
http://www.census.gov.pk/indian.html OFFICIAL PORTAL OF CENSUS OF GOVT OF PAKISTAN
http://www.cga.gov.pk/indian.html CONTROLLER GENERAL OF ACCOUNTS OF MINISTRY OF PAKISTAN
http://www.cii.gov.pk/indian.html The Council Of Islamic Ideology Govt of Pakistan
http://www.cmsindh.gov.pk/indian.html Chief Minister Sindh
http://www.cmtl.gov.pk/indian.html Construction Materials Testing Laboratory Civil Works Organisation GOV of PAKISTAN
http://www.eadtraining.gov.pk/indian.html MINISTRY OF FINANCE AND ECENOMIC AFFAIRS OF PAKISTAN
http://www.enercon.gov.pk/indian.html The National Energy Conservation Center
http://www.environment.gov.pk/indian.html MINISTRY OF Pakistan Environmental Protection Agency
http://www.fab.gov.pk/indian.html FREQUENCY ALLOCATION BOARD OF GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN
http://www.fgehf.gov.pk/indian.html FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF EMPLOYEES HOUSING FOUNDATION OF PAKISTAN
http://www.thenucleuspak.org.pk/indian.html website of scientific journal ‘The Nucleus’ Pakistan
http://4urchannels.info/
http://abroadpoint.com/
http://alkaramsoft.com/
http://almashreqstudio.com/
http://ansariacademy.com/
http://apnambdin.com/
http://apnidownloads.com/
http://awazegujrat.com/
http://axstuff.com/
http://bahawalpurpolice.gov.pk/indian.html
http://bakhshalvi.com/
http://buulong.info/
http://cap.com.pk/
http://courtesyphoto.info/
http://crownroofs.com/
http://dailyawaz-e-gujrat.com/
http://databank4you.info/index.html
http://datajunctiononline.info/
http://datajunctionworld.info/
http://datazone4u.info/
http://diendancnhh.com/
http://djlohsar.com/
http://dlmasti.com/
http://efeastdeli.com/
http://expressionboutique.com/
http://filesarve.cz.cc/
http://firemartialarts.com/
http://fysisoft.com/
http://geofun.us/
http://geomela.com/
http://gigaservers.info/
http://globalbusinessprovider.com/
http://globalinternetjobs.com/
http://globaljobs4u.com/
http://hafizabadpolice.gov.pk/indian.html
http://hakangultekin.com/
http://hayato.nl/
http://hilaldubaigarments.com/
http://hostechservices.com/
http://houseonrent.de/
http://houseonrent.nl/
http://iglobal4u.com/
http://iglobalsite.info/
http://indusrice.com/
http://intearnservices.com/
http://jamiaayesha.com/
http://jamiaqasimia.com/
http://jobsonline4u.com/
http://www.indus.com.pk/
http://www.lodhranpolice.gov.pk/indian.html




http://4urchannels.info/
http://abroadpoint.com/
http://alkaramsoft.com/
http://almashreqstudio.com/
http://ansariacademy.com/
http://apnambdin.com/
http://apnidownloads.com/
http://awazegujrat.com/
http://axstuff.com/
http://bahawalpurpolice.gov.pk/indian.html
http://bakhshalvi.com/
http://buulong.info/
http://cap.com.pk/
http://courtesyphoto.info/
http://crownroofs.com/
http://dailyawaz-e-gujrat.com/
http://databank4you.info/index.html
http://datajunctiononline.info/
http://datajunctionworld.info/
http://datazone4u.info/
http://diendancnhh.com/
http://djlohsar.com/
http://dlmasti.com/
http://efeastdeli.com/
http://expressionboutique.com/
http://filesarve.cz.cc/
http://firemartialarts.com/
http://fysisoft.com/
http://geofun.us/
http://geomela.com/
http://gigaservers.info/
http://globalbusinessprovider.com/
http://globalinternetjobs.com/
http://globaljobs4u.com/
http://hafizabadpolice.gov.pk/indian.html
http://hakangultekin.com/
http://hayato.nl/
http://hilaldubaigarments.com/
http://hostechservices.com/
http://houseonrent.de/
http://houseonrent.nl/
http://iglobal4u.com/
http://iglobalsite.info/
http://indusrice.com/
http://intearnservices.com/
http://jamiaayesha.com/
http://jamiaqasimia.com/
http://jobsonline4u.com/
http://www.indus.com.pk/
http://www.lodhranpolice.gov.pk/indian.html

[svinayak]

Despite my otherwise cursing the US for its anti-India role in Pakistan - I suspect that US pressure on the Paki army - ie that the US would take India's side has definitely helped.

I suspect a huge drying up of support/connivance from within-India elements after 26/11 is the reason for the current calm.

Indian media is responsible for suppressing the feelings and focus on the murder and attack.
Active suppression is being done by media which is in control by some groups.

[Prem]

Clinton telephones Zardari, discusses WikiLeaks disclosures
http://www.thepakistaninewspaper.com/ne ... p?id=18476

ISLAMABAD, Dec 02: US Secretary of State Ms. Hillary Clinton telephoned President Asif Ali Zardari Thursday night.The two leaders talked about bilateral matters with reference to the recent publication of so called memos and official correspondence by the Wikileaks.Spokesperson to the President Farhatullah Babar said that the two leaders agreed that the Wikileak publications were not only unauthorized but also out of context and were based on raw information that did not reflect the correct nature of the purported official correspondence.They also agreed that the so called leaks will not be allowed to cast a shadow on the strategic partnership between the two countries.The spokesperson said that the so called leaks of official memos is already a thing of the past and the president looks forward to the future and the promise it holds.

Baksheesh and H&D ?

[Prem]

US to part ways if gets Osama, Pak fears

ISLAMABAD, Dec 02: Pakistan feared that US will again desert Islamabad after they get Osama Bin Laden due to which Pakistan hesitates to fully cooperate with its key ally, WikiLeaks reveals quoting Anne W Patterson.nne W Patterson said that the relationship between the two countrues is one of co-dependency they grudgingly admit--Pakistan knows the U.S. cannot afford to walk away; the U.S. knows Pakistan cannot survive without our support.

http://www.thepakistaninewspaper.com/ne ... p?id=18479

[Nandu]

What is all this about US/UK "overlooking" what Kayani has been up to as ISI chief? Was it mainly anti-India terrorist ops or was he also leading the attack against NATO troops in Afghanistan?

[ramana]

All terrosist attacks from TSP are with ISI approval. Includes Afghanistan and Pakistan too.

[Rangudu]

Kayani as the ISI chief oversaw the buildup of the Haqqani network in their old fiefdoms. This was the period when suicide attacks, beheadings etc. began in the North and East of Afghanistan and when US casualties skyrocketed. Kayani literally has NATO blood in his hands.

[RajeshA]

Link

¶2. (C) NAWAS FAVORED: Khanzada said the Pakistanis are convinced that Saudi King Abdallah would prefer to see Pakistan run by former PM Nawas Sharif, and were cutting back assistance to Pakistan to hasten this eventuality. Nawas “practically lives” in Saudi Arabia, Khanzada declared, claiming that Nawas had even been favored with reserved prayer space in the Prophet’s Mosque in Medina. Because Nawas’ daughter is married to a grandson of King Fahd, he has “become a member of the Saudi royal family.” (Comment: Embassy is not able to confirm whether this is true. End comment.)

From a Profile of Nawaz Sharif

Muhammad Nawaz Sharif is married with four children, two sons and two daughters. His elder son Hussain Nawaz is also married and settled in Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and looking after the family business, whereas younger son Hassan Nawaz is settled in London and running his family business from there. His both daughters are married. Mariam Nawaz is married to Capt. (R) Safdar and younger is married with the son of Senator Ishaq Dar.

So if Nawaz Sharif gave one of his daughters to some Saudi prince, he probably gave a fake daughter to the prince! La Howl Villa Kuwait!

[Theo_Fidel]

Sons, daughters, birds of prey. What's the difference?

Just to clarify, the Houbara is not technically a bird of prey. AFAIK the falcons are all flown in. Which is symbolic in its own way.

The Houbara is believed by arabs to bring certain things erect. Just in time for the DoP. (Daughters of Pakistan) Which is really odd and revolting at the same time.

[BijuShet]

From Dawn (posting in full): Asif Zardari sought UAE haven for family: Wikileaks

President Asif Ali Zardari. — Photo by Reuters

DUBAI: President Asif Ali Zardari sought a pledge from the United Arab Emirates to allow his family long-term refuge — as they did for his late wife — if he died or was killed, according to a secret diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks.

Asif Ali Zardari’s wife, former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, spent part of her eight-year self-exile in Dubai before being killed in a suicide blast in 2007 after returning to Pakistan.

The memo said the UAE’s Foreign Minister, Sheik Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan, told high-ranking US officials in January about Zardari’s request. The leaked cable said Sheik Abdullah stressed ”the sensitivity of the information”.

It’s not known whether the appeal was granted by the UAE’s president, Sheik Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan. Emirates officials were not available Thursday to comment on the report because of a national holiday.

Separate US diplomatic memos released on WikiLeaks portray Zardari, who took power in 2008, as worried about plots against his life by political rivals.

Besides Benazir Bhutto, the UAE has in the past provided a temporary haven for embattled political figures and their families, including Chechen strongman Sulim Yamadayev and former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

[BijuShet]

Is TSP the land of pure or a Nazi state? You decide.

From Dawn (posting in full) : Graveyard purified for the Muslims

From the Newspaper - Yesterday
By Aamir Yasin
RAWALPINDI, Dec 1: ‘Peace’ returned to Ratta Amral graveyard on Tuesday night after the body of a little Hindu girl buried there a year ago was exhumed by her family and reburied in the adjacent Christian graveyard.

Their act of assuaging ‘Muslim sensitivities’ took place in the dark of the night and under tight security.

“When we buried our Summan Prem there on October 1, 2009, we mistakenly thought it was the Christian graveyard,” an uncle of the girl told Dawn, tears rolling down his cheeks in memory of his niece who would have been 10 this year.

“We did not want to cause any controversy, or annoy anyone. If the (graveyard management) committee does not want us Hindus to bury their dead here, we won’t,” he said.

Summan’s father, Prem Kishan, was spared the pain of shifting his daughter’s remains from, so to say, Muslim to Christian grounds, as he was away in Sukkur on the day for the funeral of his nephew.

Her family, living on The Mall, Saddar, is Balmeki Hindu, some of whom bury their dead instead of cremating.

Summan’s Hindu ancestry became known only after the family put a tombstone on her grave, bearing her name and Hindu Mantras.

Tongues started wagging at this ‘sacrilege’ and agitated Muslim clerics and visitors to the Ratta Amral graveyard raised ‘the issue’ with the graveyard’s managing committee.

They accused the management of negligence and threatened to stop burying their dead in the graveyard unless it was ‘purified’ by removing the non-Muslim’s body.

Alarmed by the anger that the dead Summan was causing, the management committee requested her family to move her out of the Muslim graveyard — which it did.

“We were not aware of the Hindu burial. Clerics and people of the area brought it to our notice and their reaction made us request the family to remove it to the adjacent Christian graveyard,” said Ratta Amral Graveyard Management Committee chairman Mohammad Mohsin Mir.

There are many graves of lower caste Hindus in the Christian graveyard which had been separated from the Muslim cemetery, he said.

“It was a mistake for the grave digger to assume that Summan was a Muslim. Otherwise the management committee is well aware that non-Muslims could not be buried in our graveyard,” said Mr Mir. His fear of the angry Muslim sentiments was understandable.

Hafiz Iqbal Rizvi, Rawalpindi District Khateeb, holds that Shariat does not allow burying non-Muslims in Muslim graveyards.

Chairman of the District Peace Committee Maulana Izhar Hussain Shah Bukhari blamed the burial of the non-Muslim girl in Ratta Amral graveyard on the management committee and the grave digger who did not register the names of the dead brought to the graveyard.

[Prem]

Bijushet
Do you know Pakistan ka Matlab Kiya hai. TSP just represent its ideological people nothing else.

[BijuShet]

Bijushet
Do you know Pakistan ka Matlab Kiya hai. TSP just represent its ideological people nothing else.

It was a rhetorical question Premji. After spending a decade at BRF, I have a clear understanding of "Pakistan ka Matlab". I want casual readers and regular visitors to see the parallels between Nazi ideology and " Pakistan ka Matlab".

[ramana]

Biju, What elements of Nazism do you see in that story? Its all following the literal tenets of Islam.

[anupmisra]

Equalitaniyat
Rhymes with Pakistaniyat.

Treat India and Pak equally, said Gilani to US

Gilani, however, noted that in order to gain (Paki) public support for this process, the US had to "treat India and Pakistan equally." "He added that India would need to gain Pakistan's trust and indicated that reducing the Indian footprint in Afghanistan and halting Indian support of militants in Balochistan would be steps in the right direction," the cable noted.

Zardari conceded that Singh deserved respect, but said he was not confident about the rest of the Indian government, the US Ambassador wrote.

And, while they are at it, India should move out of Siachen, give us cashmere, give us a trade corridor to Bangladesh, ban Bharat-rakshak, stop making fun of us in their bollywood movies, send Madhuri Dixit and Aishwariya Rai......

[anupmisra]

After the WikiLeaks deluge
A real wet towel.

Pakistan stands insecure as our leadership, both political and military, ruling the country have been exposed by no one else but Washington, to whom our leadership is shown by WikiLeaks to have sold their souls at the cost of national integrity, honour and prestige.

Is our fate in safe hands?

Each and every word of WikiLeaks would be taken as true if Pakistani authorities and leaders, blamed and shamed by these leaks, do not come out with a clear answer. They need to reply, more importantly through their actions, that Pakistan is no more American domain.

Pakistan has been practically reduced from a sovereign state to an American colony as the president, prime minister, top political leaders and even Army chief all have been shown pleasing or taking into confidence the US ambassador — the de facto viceroy of Pakistan — to continue ruling the roost with the blessings of Washington.

DG ISI Lt Gen Pasha too crossed the limits of discipline as he is shown by the WikiLeaks to have told US officials that President Asif Ali Zardari was corrupt. The question here arises why did he report such purely internal matter to the Americans.

No less shocking is the way the Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani has been opening his heart and mind before the Americans, including the US ambassador.

With such leadership, both political and military, Pakistan’s future is really bleak. Whom should we trust? Who is free from the US influence? Can we become a sovereign nation? Can we take our own decisions? Why do we have more faith in Washington than in God? How could we save Pakistan from being destabilised after reading what our president, prime minister, political leaders and Army chief have said to a minnow American — Anne Patterson? With such leadership, how can we tackle the problem of terrorism? Who would save us from disgrace and shame?

Questions and more questions?

[ramana]

anupmisra,
And BENIS thread on BR should be deleted.

[RamaY]

Who would save us from disgrace and shame?

BENIS

[RajeshA]

Who would save us from disgrace and shame?

BENIS

Actually anybody who has a "chullu bhar pani" to spare can save them!

[Prem]

Biju, What elements of Nazism do you see in that story? Its all following the literal tenets of Islam.

And Poaks are still in "soach" why religion has not helped in their Poakvolution in last 69 years.

[BijuShet]

Biju, What elements of Nazism do you see in that story? Its all following the literal tenets of Islam.

Ramanasaar I value my posting privileges on BRF and without delving into the tenets of Islam, it will be difficult for me to discuss the elements of Nazism in that story. I posted the story in full to allow readers come to their own conclusions (also to circumvent the "Don't ask Don't Tell" policy at BRF especially when the discussion is about the tenets of Islam ).

[Fidel Guevara]

Wikileaks mentioned 120,000-130,000 Pakis working on the nuke program. They don't give out a breakdown of this number - how many guards, file clerks, admin staff, etc, and how many technical personnel. Even among technical personnel, most would be screwdriver assemblers and cut-paste repair people.

Even so, this is a huge number for a country that graduates 10000 so-called "engineers" per year.

If you assume that the Pakis will hire "the best least-bad of the best least-bad" for their #1 national asset, then that represents a huge drain on the rest of the economy.

As a % of the skilled workforce, their nuke program must be sucking in as much as India's IT/ITES industry. The only difference is that India's IT/ITES sector is contributing maybe $100 billion + to the GDP, while for Pak it is only a cost.

[MurthyB]

Don't you realize that purification is a continuous process? Land of the pure continuously purifies itself, even after the kuffar are dead.

Is TSP the land of pure or a Nazi state? You decide.

From Dawn (posting in full) : Graveyard purified for the Muslims

[abhishek_sharma]

I won’t come to India ever: Musharraf

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/I-won ... raf/719810

Allah is great!

[pgbhat]

^
You missed highlighting this gem.

Declaring that he would never come to India again, Musharraf says: “I believe in my honour and dignity. When Indian and Pakistani forces were eyeball-to-eyeball in 2002, I went to attend the SAARC Summit in Kathmandu, for which I was permitted to fly over the Indian airspace... I chose to route my plane via Beijing instead.”

[amdavadi]

Mushi will keep his promise alrite. Just like those paki cricketer who said they would never play in IPL ever again.

[amdavadi]

If mushi cares about his H& D then he should stop going to Indian restaurant.

[Nandu]

He will try to spin it into "India hates me, so I must be good for Pakistan" for his campaign to claw back into power in Islamabad. But India's rejection of the visa also means India has determined he zero chance of ever coming to power again. He knows this and his Paki followers know this. Watch them desert him in droves now.

[archan]

Last time he was here he got owned by an Indian Muslim. He continued to present his inanities however. This time it looks like the Indians figured they don't want to hear any of that crap.

[Pratyush]

Is TSP the land of pure or a Nazi state? You decide.

From Dawn (posting in full) : Graveyard purified for the Muslims

From the Newspaper - Yesterday
By Aamir Yasin
SNIP.....

Chairman of the District Peace Committee Maulana Izhar Hussain Shah Bukhari blamed the burial of the non-Muslim girl in Ratta Amral graveyard on the management committee and the grave digger who did not register the names of the dead brought to the graveyard.

Revolting.

The girls family would have been better served if they had burned her.

[Pratyush]

Ramana/ Rangdu/ others,

What is the level of purity of a DOP that she can give legitmacy to the rule of the Souds. Thats all I need to know. As if I recall correctly. She is either an off spring of a SDRE who was Raped by the pious. Or of a SDRE who was forceably converted.

So should bringing her into the family actulay hurt the prospects of the soud dynesty. Rather that enhancing them.

[abhishek_sharma]

Have security arrangement with India for nuke deal: US told Pak

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 028248.cms

The US had told Pakistan that it needs to put into place a new security arrangement with India as a pre-condition for a much-sought civilian nuclear deal with Washington, according to secret US cables released by WikiLeaks .

Powerful Senator and foreign policy czar John Kerry told President Asif Ali Zardari in a meeting in Islamabad on February 16, 2010, that besides a security arrangement with India, the stability of Pakistan's democratic institutions would also be a determining factor for US to consider a bilateral nuclear deal agreement on the lines of one with India.

"Pakistan's ability to reach a new security arrangement with India and the increased strength of Pakistan's democratic institutions would be necessary conditions for the US to consider civilian nuclear assistance to Pakistan," he told Zardari.

[KLNMurthy]

^
You missed highlighting this gem.

Declaring that he would never come to India again, Musharraf says: “I believe in my honour and dignity. When Indian and Pakistani forces were eyeball-to-eyeball in 2002, I went to attend the SAARC Summit in Kathmandu, for which I was permitted to fly over the Indian airspace... I chose to route my plane via Beijing instead.”

If what mush says about Indian diplos promising him visa & then reneging at last moment, this sounds a lot like the IPL story. Are there some folks at top levels at Home (most likely) that have decided to deliberately strike at h&d of the RAPEs? AoA if so.

[Ambar]

If what mush says about Indian diplos promising him visa & then reneging at last moment, this sounds a lot like the IPL story. Are there some folks at top levels at Home (most likely) that have decided to deliberately strike at h&d of the RAPEs? AoA if so.

More to the question : Why the sudden change of heart ? As strange as it may sound, i suspect US and or Zardari might have requested GoI not to help Mushy use Delhi as a springboard to Islumabad..

[negi]

Well more likely than not the truth might be Mushy is lying about the alleged promise and there is no chankianness involved here; heck the dimwits hosted him 3 times already and result is for all of us to see.