West Asia News and Discussions (YEMEN, gulf)

ldev · Post by **ldev** » 12 Apr 2015 08:01

Pakistan's duplicity is finally being exposed among the GCC countries.

UAE condemns Pakistan's vote on Yemen - Warns of heavy price for ambiguous stand

Dubai — The UAE on Friday strongly condemned a Pakistani decision to stay out of the conflict in Yemen, rejecting Saudi demands for Islamabad to join its military coalition against Houthi rebels.

“The Arabian Gulf is in a dangerous confrontation, its strategic security is on the edge, and the moment of truth distinguishes between the real ally and the ally of media and statements,” Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Dr Anwar Mohammed Gargash tweeted after a unanimous resolution passed by a special session of Pakistan’s parliament.

The resolution, however, backed the government’s commitment to protect Saudi Arabia’s territory, which has so far not been threatened by the conflict.

Gargash said Pakistan is required to show a clear stand in favour of its strategic relations with the six-nation Arab Gulf cooperation Council, as contradictory and ambiguous views on this serious matter will have a heavy price to pay.

“This is nothing but another chapter of laggard impartial stand,” Gargash said, criticising identical views held by Turkey and Iran about the armed conflict in Yemen, as affirmed by the Turkish foreign minister, who had said a political way out of the crisis is the responsibility of Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Tehran seems to be more important to Islamabad and Ankara than the Gulf countries, Gargash added. “Though our economic and investment assets are inevitable, political support is missing at critical moments,” Gargash said.

“The vague and contradictory stands of Pakistan and Turkey are an absolute proof that Arab security — from Libya to Yemen — is the responsibility of none but Arab countries, and the crisis is a real test for neighbouring countries.”

The Pakistan parliament resolution turned down long-standing ally Riyadh’s request for troops, ships and warplanes, saying: “Pakistan should play a mediating role and not get involved in fighting in Yemen.”

“Parliament of Pakistan...underscores the need for continued efforts by the government of Pakistan to find a peaceful resolution of the crisis,” the resolution said.

“(Parliament) desires that Pakistan should maintain neutrality in the Yemen conflict so as to be able to play a proactive diplomatic role to end the crisis.”

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 12 Apr 2015 10:04

This videos link shows alive attack by yemeni army on Saudi Patrol in Najran.

With its narrow valleys and tall ridges, they look more like the terrain in Afghanistan.
A trap where Saudis will come home to die?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcS-7eCyDVs

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcS-7eCyDVs[/youtube]

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 12 Apr 2015 11:54

If indeed unkil and Israel want Yemen to be crushed then bakis will have to jump in sooner or later. All this dramabazi is to seal a better deal. Or may be unkil himself is holding baki entry into Yemen as a trump card against iran for their deal. IMO There has to be some correlation between Yemen and US-iran deal. It's bit too much of a coincident. And judging by unkil's art of foreign policy, it's impossible.

arun · Post by **arun** » 12 Apr 2015 11:55

X Posted from the STFUP thread.

chetak wrote:when the time has come to pay the piper, and the rats are showing their true 'nuclear" colors, the town's people have suddenly discovered the virtues of becoming "democratic" and are using the fig leaf of their so called parliament. the wretched pakis are loath to compromise on their nefarious end game in afghanistan.

UAE minister warns Pakistan of ‘heavy price for ambiguous stand’ on Yemen

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One more article saying the UAE is mighty pissed with the position taken by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Parliament on the not assisting Pakistan’s Arab mentors in Yemen. This one embeds UAE Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Dr Anwar Mohammad Gargash's nasty comments on Twitter about the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s normally duplicitous behavior of begging and taking money from Patrons and then letting then letting the Patron’s down when Pakistani support is called upon.

The Arabs should have paid heed to the Taliban Regimes Foreign Minister, Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef who had the below to say about the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in his autobiography “My Life With The Taliban” :

"Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody's language; they use everybody, deceive everybody. They deceive the Arabs under the guise of Islamic nuclear power, saying that they are defending Islam and Islamic countries. They milk America and Europe in the alliance against terrorism, and they have been deceiving Pakistani and other Muslims around the world in the name of the Kashmiri jihad. But behind the curtain, they have been betraying everyone.”

The Arabs should now know that all talk by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan about “defending Islam and Islamic countries” excludes Arab Nations:

UAE Minister Threatens Pakistan : Twitter Reactions

K Mehta · Post by **K Mehta** » 12 Apr 2015 12:54

guys bakis have said will defend Saudi sovirginity. now Saudi sovirginity has been violated, so bakis will join the fight. hence proved.

Multatuli · Post by **Multatuli** » 12 Apr 2015 13:11

Arun, thanks for posting that quote from “My Life With The Taliban”. I have to say that the Packees have gained some respect from me. I think the Packees show some wisdom by not immediately running to Saudi Arabia to fight the Houthis as a mercenary army. This is exactly how the Arab states should be treated. And that UAE minister just shows his contempt for Packees/Packeestan by "reprimanding" the Packees for choosing to stay out of this conflict. The arrogant Sunni Arab rulers caused the mess in Yemen, Syria and Iraq, now why should Packeestan or any other country pull the chestnuts out of the fire for those utter b@st@rds? You made your bed, now lie in it.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 12 Apr 2015 13:48

K Mehta wrote:guys bakis have said will defend Saudi sovirginity. now Saudi sovirginity has been violated, so bakis will join the fight. hence proved.

Saar, moi thinks they will only defend 'Sau-Virginity" not hazaar and laakh. Let the Houthis reach outskirts of Mecca and Medina, then the TSPA will instruct its parliament to hold another session for another discussion. Till then its Chai-bi -scoot far away from Yemen (official position only).

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 12 Apr 2015 14:09

Shame on you Pakis! Biting the hands that fed it.

The King of Soothi Barbaria like dear old King Lear is repeating his words..."How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is, to have a thankless child! "

Will the King of Soothi Barbaria quote from Lear again?....

"I’ll tell thee. (Pakis)

Life and death! I am ashamed

That thou hast power to shake my manhood thus,

That these hot tears which break from me perforce

Should make thee worth them. Blasts and fogs upon thee!

Th' untented woundings of a father’s curse

Pierce every sense about thee! Old fond eyes,

Beweep this cause again, I’ll pluck ye out

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 12 Apr 2015 15:44

UBCNews reports:
Following the brilliant demonstration of Saudi Originality (naming of Operation Deserter Storm) KSA will shortly be issuing the name of this alliance:

Coalition of the Wilting

Your Ar*e is either in Front of us or Behind us

All this noise from the UAE is presumably under 'advice' from the King of KSA. His credibility is on the line, big-time, if he can't even whip the bankrupt Pakis into sending a token detachment of Frontier Rifles or Northern Flight Infantry cannon-fodder. Coalition-building leadership turning into desert dust.
What's up with the Pakis? BUYING $1B worth of US weaponry? Saying

to the Saudis? Has the price of hashish gone up so much?

Hopefully the Houthis can start a stampede.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Apr 2015 16:08

So the rent boy is refusing to be cannon fodder.

Arabs must be very pissed they will have to lead charge of light brigade instead of disposable colonial infantry

ldev · Post by **ldev** » 12 Apr 2015 16:38

The Gulf Arabs can be very direct if necessary. I would not be surprised if the Pakistanis especially the well off Pakjabis suddenly find it difficult to get Dubai visas, resident permits, business licences etc., they consider Dubai their second home and if it happens it will hit home directly.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 12 Apr 2015 16:42

Meanwhile, the Saudi campaign is off to a great start. Their subsidiary the AQ are taking over Yemen without a fight. Non-violence at its best!

Saudi Arabia's Vietnam. But all in all, GREAT news for US defense stocks, and for Waste Management Inc.

ldev · Post by **ldev** » 12 Apr 2015 16:51

There is one guaranteed way of getting Pakistan to commit to troops to support KSA. MEA, India should announce the following

At the request off and in consultation with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Islamic Republic of Iran, India has decided to send a combined Indian armed forces contingent of 50,000 to act as peacekeepers in Yemen and to monitor and enforce a ceasefire between various warring factions

You can bet, Pakistan will dispatch troops within the hour!!

Multatuli · Post by **Multatuli** » 12 Apr 2015 18:45

The Packees should ask for USD 20 billion from the Sunni states at war with Yemen, paid directly to the Packee army. But money is not the most important thing here, the Packees should also insist that the Sunni Arabs give 5000 young virgin women between the ages of 15 and 25 from the elite and wealthiest Gulf Arab families in marriage to Packee army officers and the wealthy landowners in Packeeland (or their sons). This would seal the bond between Packeeland and the Gulf Arabs. It would prove to Packees that they are not just cannon fodder for the Gulf Arabs. Why should it only be the Gulf Arabs who enjoy Packee wimmens?

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 12 Apr 2015 22:23

I am sure pakee soldiers are already in KSA. So why the big drama. Though I hope India and Iran don't sit quiet and heat up the afghan-pak border.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Apr 2015 23:02

Bheeshma wrote:I am sure pakee soldiers are already in KSA. So why the big drama. Though I hope India and Iran don't sit quiet and heat up the afghan-pak border.

Paki are afraid they will loose Balochistan to I&I if the side with Saudi. China would not like this. regardless Paki must loose face in Arab Duniya . Vinashkaal events are now accelerating on their own.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 13 Apr 2015 01:30

I wonder what was said between NaMo and Sultan-e-KSA.
Also wonder what would happen if India now announces joint Anti-Terrorism training/Anti-Piracy exercises with Eyeran off Gwadar. With the emphasis on "announces". Very loudly. After all Eyeran has to be encouraged as the official Non-Nuclear Ally-e-Yoo-Es...

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 13 Apr 2015 05:39

Pakistani blackmail

QUOTE: ........This is exactly the situation of Pakistan whose government opted to join the Arab Islamic coalition without any official request of the coalition

QUOTE : GCC countries do not need Pakistan but the latter needs these countries.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 13 Apr 2015 05:54

Erdogan doesn't deserve a Saudi Red Carpet

Ummah diplomacy in action !

Arab Times Opinion Piece

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 13 Apr 2015 13:44

Multatuli wrote:The Packees should ask for USD 20 billion from the Sunni states at war with Yemen, paid directly to the Packee army. But money is not the most important thing here, the Packees should also insist that the Sunni Arabs give 5000 young virgin women between the ages of 15 and 25 from the elite and wealthiest Gulf Arab families in marriage to Packee army officers and the wealthy landowners in Packeeland (or their sons). This would seal the bond between Packeeland and the Gulf Arabs. It would prove to Packees that they are not just cannon fodder for the Gulf Arabs. Why should it only be the Gulf Arabs who enjoy Packee wimmens?

No Arab is going to give some Baki Miskeen their women! Paki Elite has better chances with Iranian women than Arab women!

habal · Post by **habal** » 13 Apr 2015 13:57

So when is Al-bakistan sending troops. Soothis need them like since yesterday.

Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:53
Yemeni Tribes Gain Control of Saudi Military Base

TEHRAN (FNA)- The Yemeni tribe of Takhya entered al-Minare Saudi military site on the border area between Yemen and Saudi Arabia, killing many Saudi soldiers.
The tribe killed and injured at least 18 Saudi soldiers in a retaliatory attack, the Arabic-language Yemeni press website quoted security sources as saying.

The tribe also managed to regain control over the military site in Saudi Arabia near Yemen's Baqem district in Saada governorate on Saturday, according to the sources.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 0123000823

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 13 Apr 2015 14:32

Bakis knows that Yeman issue is a shadow boxing of Sunni-Shia. If they intervene, Indo-Persians may liberate Balochsitan. The recent Iran-West friendship is giving nightmares to Bakis, because it may open another Afgan route and possibly Balochi route (if Balochistan becomes reality).

So Pakis will shift goalposts every time.
1. We will intervene only when KSA is threatened.
2. We will intervene only when 2 Holy mosques are threatened.
3. Let Holy mosques have rotating control between Turks, Arabs and Shias, so Shias getting into 2 Holy mosques is good for Ummah.

One thing is sure, Pakis hates everybody.
1. They hate Shias because they are Shias.
2. They hate Arabs for breaking up Ottomon empire and hosting US troops in their countries.
3. Till few years back they hated Turkey, because they are allies of Israel.

Now its time everybody start haing Bakis. Already Persians distrusts Bakis, now Araps will mistrust Bakis.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2015 14:51

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/04/12 ... near-Yemen

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2015 14:59

so the yemenis have done the only thing they can, advanced on the ground and created havoc. if you compare to the well dressed kids in my prior post and the sons-of-the-soil type yemeni fighters in this post....diff is stark..quite telling they cannot send a army unit to repel this incursion.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 0123001246

Riyadh's Bombers Target Yemeni Tribal Troops on Saudi Soil

TEHRAN (FNA)- Yemeni tribal troops were targeted by Saudi Arabia's fighter bombers on the kingdom's soil on Sunday, after members of Takhya tribe wrest control over several military bases in Saudi Arabia near the Yemeni border city of Sa'ada.

According to reports, the Saudi warplanes carried out a series of massive attacks against Yemeni tribal fighters near the Saudi province of Najran, as the Yemeni tribal troops continued to make more advances on the Saudi soil and managed to regain control over three more military sites.

The tribal troops launched an attack on the al-Minare military base in Saudi Arabia earlier today, killing over 18 Saudi soldiers dead and capturing dozens of others.

Cross-border skirmishes between the Saudi and Yemeni tribes have flared up over the last two weeks, as the monarchy's illegal airstrikes continue and have so far claimed the lives of thousands of innocent people, particularly at border areas.

Saudi Arabia has been striking Yemen for 18 days now to restore power to fugitive president Mansour Hadi, a close ally of Riyadh. The Saudi-led aggression has so far killed over 1030 Yemenis, including hundreds of women and children. The attacks have also left more than 2250 people injured.

Hadi stepped down in January and refused to reconsider the decision despite calls by Ansarullah revolutionaries of the Houthi movement.

Despite Riyadh's claims that it is bombing the positions of the Ansarullah fighters, Saudi warplanes are flattening residential areas and civilian infrastructures.

Five Persian Gulf States -- Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Bahrain, Qatar and Kuwait -- and Egypt that are also assisted by Israel and backed by the US declared war on Yemen in a joint statement issued on March 26.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2015 15:00

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 0123001057

Source: Rift Widening among Saudi Rulers over Yemen War

TEHRAN (FNA)- Sources disclosed that gaps are widening among the members of the Al Saud ruling family as a result of the war on Yemen.
"The differences have intensified in the Al Saud dynasty over the Saudi-led airstrikes on Yemen," Senior member of Ansarullah movement Hossein al-Ezzi told FNA on Sunday.

Al-Ezzi noted that several regions of Saudi Arabia have been the scene of insecurity and chaos since the start of the Saudi-led aggression against Yemen, and said, "These insecurities have been intensified" intimidating some Saudi rulers that the war on Yemen might lead to chaos at home.

He also pointed to the widening rift among the Saudi-led coalition members, and said, "The Pakistani parliament voted no to the military interference in Yemen and Turkey also refrained from joining the coalition while there are also strong opposition in Egypt against Egyptian president's stance vis-à-vis Yemen."

Earlier today, a senior member of the popular Ansarullah movement Youssef al-Fayshi underlined that the Saudi-led aggression against Yemen is aimed at saving the Al-Qaeda terrorists from annihilation.

"The Al Saud attack on Yemen is not meant to bring alleged legitimacy back to the Arab country, but it is aimed at saving the Al-Qaeda terrorists' demise and destruction," the Lebanese Al-Akhbar newspaper quoted al-Fayshi as saying.

He noted that Al-Qaeda and the ISIL are part of a scenario written by the US and Saudi Arabia for the region and the defeat of the same project has resulted in Saudi Arabia's insane attack on Yemen.

Saudi Arabia has been striking Yemen for 18 days now to restore power to fugitive president Mansour Hadi, a close ally of Riyadh. The Saudi-led aggression has so far killed at least 1,026 Yemenis, including hundreds of women and children. The war has also wounded over 2,242 people.

Hadi stepped down in January and refused to reconsider the decision despite calls by Ansarullah revolutionaries of the Houthi movement.

Despite Riyadh's claims that it is bombing the positions of the Ansarullah fighters, Saudi warplanes are flattening residential areas and civilian infrastructures.

Five Persian Gulf States -- Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Bahrain, Qatar and Kuwait -- and Egypt that are also assisted by Israel and backed by the US declared war on Yemen in a joint statement issued on March 26.

US President Barack Obama authorized the provision of logistical and intelligence support to the military operations, National Security Council Spokesperson Bernadette Meehan said late on March 25.

She added that while US forces were not taking direct military action in Yemen, Washington was establishing a Joint Planning Cell with Saudi Arabia to coordinate US military and intelligence support.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 13 Apr 2015 15:19

If Baki Parliament said no to Baki deployment in favor of Soothies, then it is basically an effort by the Baki Fauthis to wriggle out of any large scale deployment .

Now Nawaz would only offer a few sectarian outfits who could do some mercenary work against the Houthis, and some Fauthis can join them for Dollahs! But this is only cumin for the camel! Camel needs more, but no more Fauthis coming, and those who would go would try to get the money but try to duck the real fighting!

In the meantime, Erdogan would salivate about setting himself up as the new Khalifa and throwing the Soothis under the running truck!

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 13 Apr 2015 15:22

Crosspost from "Managing Pakistan's failure" Thread

Saudi Dilemma!

Bakis being Baki would always do Bakipanti.

Bakis know that Iran is now officially out of the dog-house, and again enjoys the favors of the Goras & Chinnis. So Bakis are again salivating at the prospect of "strategic depth" and cutting off India from any route into Central Asia and Afghanistan.

The salivation is now by bucket-full, because Pakis think, with China and Iran, they can have their own private playing room in Central Asia.

Let's not forget, Pakjabis main nightmare is Pushtuns descending on them in the middle of the night, and cutting off their heads with blunt knives or blowing up their kids in schools.

Pakis, in their mind, simply have to curtail Indian access to Afghanistan and beyond, and to continue to demand heavy rent from Amreeka for it.

Iran may not be a party able to or inclined to create instability for Paki Army, but India certainly is, but India needs Iranian help on that. Pakis do not wish Iranians giving India such access, so Pakis cannot really afford to declare themselves in an anti-Iranian coalition, which it virtually would be if Pakis opt to go and hit Houthis in Yemen.

Usually Bakis simply rent out their soldiers, but that is meant either for some short-beard dedicated pilots and other high-skills military staff or the usually long-beard yahoos to go and do mercenary work. All that is covert, small scale and Pakis can hide any official stamp on it.

For Yemen however, Saudis are demanding an official big-scale ground troops deployment. That is just not Baki style! Saudis are saying you've been paid, and are our poodles, and Pakis are saying that that was just zakat for the impoverished masses of Bakiland.

The Saudis were creating a Sunni powerhouse to the east of the Persians, for just the day, when they may need it to save the asses of the Sheikhs. Now the Sheikhs of Arabia find out that there is no Sunni loyalty which goes beyond the tribe! It is an important lesson!

Problem for Sauds is that the other Sunni powers, i.e. Turkey, Pakistan and to some extent Egypt have their own agendas. Turkey still wants to recreate a Caliphate under its power. Pakistanis would always look for where they get their next rent and how to hit India. Egypt would always feel envious of Arab riches, which it does not have.

All these Sunni powers are more than happy to see the Sauds and other Sheikhs go down, which allows them to get more influence in the Ummah, perhaps even with some additional official political hold over the two mosques.

Saudis are finding out that more Salafism, more Wahhabism in the world does not translate necessarily into more support for the Sheikhs. On the contrary, it only creates more power centers, which salivate at the thought of getting their hands on the Oil and the two mosques.

What Saudis need are cheap Sunni rent boys, who jump on their command, have little in form of own political agendas, and do not make excuses when they are called. Bakjabi Army at the moment do not seem to be fulfilling their intended role.

In the medium term, i.e. if Saudis survive the upcoming war on the Arabian Peninsula, Saudis may rethink about how Pakistan needs to be transformed so that it plays the poodle role better. Would a Bakistan not dreaming of "strategic depth" be a better rent boy? Would a Pushtun rule over Bakistan be a better alternative to those pesky Persianized-Mughali Pakjabi Faujis?

Pakistan has become Iran's strategic depth in this case!

Saudi Arabia and India should talk about Baloch freedom and perhaps being part of India, and cutting Pakistan to size.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 13 Apr 2015 16:50

arun wrote:X Posted from the STFUP thread.
The Arabs should have paid heed to the Taliban Regimes Foreign Minister, Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef who had the below to say about the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in his autobiography “My Life With The Taliban” :

"Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody's language; they use everybody, deceive everybody. They deceive the Arabs under the guise of Islamic nuclear power, saying that they are defending Islam and Islamic countries. They milk America and Europe in the alliance against terrorism, and they have been deceiving Pakistani and other Muslims around the world in the name of the Kashmiri jihad. But behind the curtain, they have been betraying everyone.”

The Arabs should now know that all talk by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan about “defending Islam and Islamic countries” excludes Arab Nations:

Can this quote be tweeted to all UAE and KSA top leaders that are on Twitter? It is time to expose duplicity of Pukis.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 13 Apr 2015 20:54

No downhill ski for desert have been developed by the most invention-full nations apparently. Now only if Houthis are ready to treat the downhill skiing pakis the way Indians treated invaders during Kargil war. For that, Pakis must make Houthis believe that Pakis are more green than Houthis, but the Shias will see through the pretentious Pakistanis.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 13 Apr 2015 21:10

Not much news these days on how IS is doing in Iraq.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Apr 2015 21:18

Cross-post from the Russia thread:
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 0#p1827820

In a move that is sure to raise hackles in Washington, President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia lifted a ban on sales of sophisticated Russian air defense missiles to Iran on Monday, moving swiftly to take advantage of a possible thaw in relations due to a potential deal curbing Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

The delivery of the S-300 surface-to-air missile system to Iran, a deal suspended five years ago in the face of United Nations sanctions, could significantly bolster Iran’s defenses against any future attack on its nuclear facilities.

No timetable was announced for the sale. But the military deal, along with an oil-for-goods exchange program that Moscow has been negotiating with Tehran for months, showed that Russia was determined to fight for a share of the economic spoils should a deal with Iran be reached and international trade ties resume.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 13 Apr 2015 21:20

Al Khalifa seeking help from Malaysia , Pakistan to suppress Barainis

COMMENT: Malaysia (like Pakistan) getting it's hands dirty in the inter- ummah civil war!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2015 21:20

IS has killed some 52 people and destroyed one more ancient city (Nimrud) as list of this weeks achievements.

govt is busy figuring out how to roll back IS from Anbar province where IS is strongly placed - falluja, ramadi etc . without securing the anbar province close to baghdad no move on Mosul can be contemplated.

but problem is being sunni, shia militias may not be so keen on it. and there are not too many pro-govt sunni militias or tribes...these became IS at one point.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Apr 2015 01:30

The tribe also managed to regain control over the military site

First real encounter. How many M-1A1 tanks, tank transporters, HumVees, Strykers, Patriot mijjiles, Stingers?
U c why they are so desperate to get Pakis as cannon fodder.

From above post:

He noted that Al-Qaeda and the ISIL are part of a scenario written by the US and Saudi Arabia for the region and the defeat of the same project has resulted in Saudi Arabia's insane attack on Yemen.

The man could become an invited Calumnist at UBCN.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Apr 2015 02:51

RajeshA wrote:If Baki Parliament said no to Baki deployment in favor of Soothies, then it is basically an effort by the Baki Fauthis to wriggle out of any large scale deployment .

Now Nawaz would only offer a few sectarian outfits who could do some mercenary work against the Houthis, and some Fauthis can join them for Dollahs! But this is only cumin for the camel! Camel needs more, but no more Fauthis coming, and those who would go would try to get the money but try to duck the real fighting!

In the meantime, Erdogan would salivate about setting himself up as the new Khalifa and throwing the Soothis under the running truck!

What Badmash might have told Erdogan is to let the Araps stew in their juices and get knocked a peg or two down.

After all Turkey and TSP are Khan brothers.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 14 Apr 2015 09:08

RajeshA wrote:
Multatuli wrote:The Packees should ask for USD 20 billion from the Sunni states at war with Yemen, paid directly to the Packee army. But money is not the most important thing here, the Packees should also insist that the Sunni Arabs give 5000 young virgin women between the ages of 15 and 25 from the elite and wealthiest Gulf Arab families in marriage to Packee army officers and the wealthy landowners in Packeeland (or their sons). This would seal the bond between Packeeland and the Gulf Arabs. It would prove to Packees that they are not just cannon fodder for the Gulf Arabs. Why should it only be the Gulf Arabs who enjoy Packee wimmens?

No Arab is going to give some Baki Miskeen their women! Paki Elite has better chances with Iranian women than Arab women!

That's not correct. A Saudi billionaire prince called Osama Bin Laden gave his daughter to a one eyed paki slave called Mullah Omar.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Apr 2015 09:42

Russia and Iran begin massive oil-for-goods deal
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-a ... z3XFwxHFC1

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia has started supplying grains, equipment and construction materials to Iran in exchange for crude oil under a barter deal, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said on Monday.Russia has been an ally of Iran in international talks over Tehran's nuclear program that have led to an interim deal under which Iran would curb the program and allow international control in exchange for ending economic sanctions.Russia hopes to benefit from any such move if the preliminary nuclear agreement is followed by a technical one as planned by the end of June and has already moved ahead with an oil-for-goods swap."I wanted to draw your attention to the rolling out of the oil-for-goods deal, which is on a very significant scale," Ryabkov told Russian senators."In exchange for Iranian crude oil supplies, we are delivering certain products. This is not banned or limited under the current sanctions regime," he added, declining to give more details.
Iran is the third largest buyer of Russian wheat, and Moscow and Tehran have been discussing the deal since early 2014.Sources told Reuters a year ago a deal worth up to $20 billion was being discussed that would involve Moscow buying up to 500,000 barrels of Iranian oil a day in exchange for Russian equipment and goods

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 Apr 2015 09:44

RamaY wrote:
RajeshA wrote:

No Arab is going to give some Baki Miskeen their women! Paki Elite has better chances with Iranian women than Arab women!
That's not correct. A Saudi billionaire prince called Osama Bin Laden gave his daughter to a one eyed paki slave called Mullah Omar.

Technically speaking, Mullah Omar isn't a Baki!

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 14 Apr 2015 09:52

IS seems to be moving out of Iraq into Syria. Syria might be the place where this fight will be decided. Fanatical IS may not want to abandon Syria for doomsday etc but those under ummah control may concentrate on bashar govt from now on. The calculation may be that if Syria falls then there will be a domino effect.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 14 Apr 2015 10:38

ramana wrote:
RajeshA wrote:If Baki Parliament said no to Baki deployment in favor of Soothies, then it is basically an effort by the Baki Fauthis to wriggle out of any large scale deployment .

Now Nawaz would only offer a few sectarian outfits who could do some mercenary work against the Houthis, and some Fauthis can join them for Dollahs! But this is only cumin for the camel! Camel needs more, but no more Fauthis coming, and those who would go would try to get the money but try to duck the real fighting!

In the meantime, Erdogan would salivate about setting himself up as the new Khalifa and throwing the Soothis under the running truck!

What Badmash might have told Erdogan is to let the Araps stew in their juices and get knocked a peg or two down.

After all Turkey and TSP are Khan brothers.

Slightly OT, in anticipation already Wannabee-Khalifa has a built a huge palace that will marvel any camel riding Arab palaces.

If Turkey, TSP conspires for spoils in Arab lands, then it will be ultimate Karma that Desert Kingdoms can reap.