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http://aajtak.intoday.in/story/lalu-yad ... 62285.html
RJD-CON making fantastic comeback in Bihar. Muslim-Yadav comb working well.
Nitish set to lose big time, these days most of his attacks are against Lalu
What implication does it have for NDA/BJP, if Bihar is not up to the mark?
RJD-CON making fantastic comeback in Bihar. Muslim-Yadav comb working well.
Nitish set to lose big time, these days most of his attacks are against Lalu
What implication does it have for NDA/BJP, if Bihar is not up to the mark?
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Dreaded dacoits asking villagers to vote for SP candidate in Banda UP
http://aajtak.intoday.in/story/uttar-pr ... 62297.html
http://aajtak.intoday.in/story/uttar-pr ... 62297.html
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I posted this on BRF way back in 2008.muraliravi wrote:Abhi investigate karke kya fayda. Kirit Somaiya has been yelling about this from 2012 and you guys were sleeping. BJP will never learn. I would not be surprised if this scam has happened in every congress ruled state. So MH, KA, HP, UTT are all gone for BJP.bhargava wrote:
Nice 40 cr contract if we take 13 lakh names in Maharashtra alone
Now i am pretty confident that cong will cross 130 and BJP wont cross 180.
I was in Delhi then. During the Assembly Elections in Nov many people from the neighborhood had names missing from electoral rolls, many applications rejected due to frivolous mistakes.
One of the things that I posted then was that none of lower working class like housemaids, drivers, gardeners, cooks, sweepers had names missing or voter ID card applications rejected. The thing that struck many is that the very people that handles documentary affairs via thumb impressions and also were a kind of floating population, had perfectly correct voter ID applications, and were present in the rolls etc.
The thing is rigging has been going on for a big time.
We are getting to know because middle class has come out to vote this time.
Forget about complaining, the only solution is to get one of the three letter agencies to go after the errant individuals. Right from the top. Make their life hell.
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I don't know whether NaMo is speaking is heart out or not when he says there will be no retribution. If he's speaking the truth then his term will be useless. These same agencies will be at external payroll to damage the next elections when BJP goes into a normal polling minus the wave.
There is no option other than going in for a Stalinist purge for every damn state organ.
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Just to be on the safe side, "in case" our outgoing PM saheb possesses a "Hara Patra" of the yoo ess, the yoo ess court may not be out of jurisdiction!!SanjayC wrote:Summon Manmohan Singh by June 18 for Human Rights violation: US court
US courts have become experts in handling cases where neither the perpetrator nor the victims are under their jurisdiction.
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Depends where the crime took place! Also citizenship more important than green card.munna wrote:Just to be on the safe side, "in case" our outgoing PM saheb possesses a "Hara Patra" of the US, the US court may not be out of jurisdiction!!SanjayC wrote:Summon Manmohan Singh by June 18 for Human Rights violation: US court
US courts have become experts in handling cases where neither the perpetrator nor the victims are under their jurisdiction.
I don't much care if Sonia Gandhi is humiliated by outsiders, but Sardar ji has "adorned" the Indian PM seat. Americans should be told to back off or their Embassy would be thrown out completely.
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Hmmm, going by muraliravi's optimism, lotus at 180 and INC at 130 essentially means UPA3 by the backdoor. Q is, will the cong be allowed to get away with this this time too? Now that its been exposed in such a big way? If yes, then its game over, might as well fold up and convert.
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The latest Muslim reservation ploy suggests CON is very nervous after the yesterdays polling and Modi's reception in Kashi. So in-spite of the electoral rolls goof up things will pan out more or less on the expected lines for BJP and very badly for CON. The impression I get from all the attacks on Modi today from CON and other parties is that he must be doing well!
Once in power, Modi must take steps to ensure electoral reforms to bring utmost transparency in the whole poll process right from rolls updation to vote counting. And the current round of voter rolls mess needs to be investigated and guilty if any punished.
Once in power, Modi must take steps to ensure electoral reforms to bring utmost transparency in the whole poll process right from rolls updation to vote counting. And the current round of voter rolls mess needs to be investigated and guilty if any punished.
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Sachin Reddy @snsachinnandu 3m
Barring KaveriDelta & CapitaCity-Northeast Districts, Tamizhnad hs favourd NDA parties hugely!
PMK in North BJP-DMDK in Kongu MDMK in South!
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Muraliraviji's optimism is well founded given the spectacle of fudging of rolls by INC. But the effect will be neutralized this time.
If the reports from grounds are anything to go by then in future rigging will require deletion of voters not just by surnames, but by first names.
If the reports from grounds are anything to go by then in future rigging will require deletion of voters not just by surnames, but by first names.
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Election Commission seems to be staffed with drunk monkeys.Shamlee wrote:Missing voter names: Illegal deletions, modifications of voter list galore
Very informative article in Moneylife.in. Goes to show that deletions were deliberate.
http://moneylife.in/article/missing-vot ... 37147.html
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Dalit aur OBC karenge kongi raavan ka sanhaar,
abki baar Modi sarkaar.
abki baar Modi sarkaar.

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Yeh lo,
Feb 2012: From Ram Naik Mumbai BJP
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-m ... ik-1652678
One more in Nashik, BJP took note of it.
http://afternoondc.in/city-news/bogus-v ... icle_48598
Actually, this makes me feel good. BJP knew about this. They are just raising the stink and people are seeing it this time becos of twitter et al.. As long as the ground reports and exit polls are based on people who voted, and not people who can vote, we should not worry too much. But anyway, in my case, I was always expecting only 190 for BJP, with their Rajasthan Screw up and slight MBC movement towards BSP in UP, I expect 180. So if you were expecting, 250+ for BJP alone, you have no reason to worry, because with all these upsets, they will cross 240 on their own in your books and will abrogate article 370 on day 1.
Feb 2012: From Ram Naik Mumbai BJP
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-m ... ik-1652678
One more in Nashik, BJP took note of it.
http://afternoondc.in/city-news/bogus-v ... icle_48598
Actually, this makes me feel good. BJP knew about this. They are just raising the stink and people are seeing it this time becos of twitter et al.. As long as the ground reports and exit polls are based on people who voted, and not people who can vote, we should not worry too much. But anyway, in my case, I was always expecting only 190 for BJP, with their Rajasthan Screw up and slight MBC movement towards BSP in UP, I expect 180. So if you were expecting, 250+ for BJP alone, you have no reason to worry, because with all these upsets, they will cross 240 on their own in your books and will abrogate article 370 on day 1.
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Sorry I posted the wrong article. I wanted to post this one:SanjayC wrote:Election Commission seems to be staffed with drunk monkeys.Shamlee wrote:Missing voter names: Illegal deletions, modifications of voter list galore
Very informative article in Moneylife.in. Goes to show that deletions were deliberate.
http://moneylife.in/article/missing-vot ... 37147.html
http://moneylife.in/article/pune-voter- ... 37142.html
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I am expecting 272+ for lotus alone.
Harbans saar,
are you expecting 300+ for lotus or for NDA?
Harbans saar,
are you expecting 300+ for lotus or for NDA?
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Guys, come one dig some more, what are we crying about here:
BJP knew this all along, so my guess is that they were lazy (which i highly doubt this time), or it is just noise now
http://www.afternoondc.in/special-repor ... icle_91286
Deletion of voter names gives politicos sleepless nights
Friday, September 13, 2013
The mere deletion of names of 38.51 lakh voters, ostensibly deceased, duplicate entries, and voters who have not acknowledged the Election Commission of India’s (ECI) notices, has predictably raised the BJPs hackles. For the EC, BJP leader Dr. Kirit Somaiya appears to be talking through his hat. These occurrences, particularly the deletion of voter names, have apparently made Somaiya rather apprehensive.
When it comes to Lok Sabha elections, a loss by a few thousand votes hurts a candidate or party politically. In the 2009 Lok Sabha elections, Somaiya lost to NCP Sanjay Dina Patil from the Mumbai North-East constituency, by a slender margin of 2,933 votes, while his senior party colleague Ram Naik lost to Sanjay Nirupam (Congress) from Mumbai by a margin of 5,779 votes. Gajanan Kirtikar (Shiv Sena) also lost to Gurudas Kamat in the Mumbai North-West constituency by a margin of 38,387 votes.
Although the ECI has refused to make an official comment on Somaiya’s contention that the deletion of so many voters names was ‘rigged’ by subordinates acting under pressure from the ruling Congress-NCP alliance, it has nevertheless thrown the rule book at the BJP. What is also equally pertinent to note is that barring the original staff at the disposal of the ECI offices in the state, the rest of the staff, during election time, is drafted from education, revenue and civic bodies.
Most of the staff employed by the ECI is from the state revenue department. During the polls this staff is under the jurisdiction of the ECI and enjoys immunity under electoral laws for their actions during the election period. When there are no polls or voter enumeration drives, however, this staff on deputation is reverted to its parent department. Hence the opposition has always been skeptical of the government’s moves with respect to the transfer of bureaucrats before elections are announced.
Speaking to the ADC on conditions of anonymity, an ECI official in the state said, “The Electoral Registration Officer (ERO) who also happens to be the district collector has quasi-judicial powers under Sections 20 and 23 of the Representation of the People Act, 1950 and Registration of Voters Rules, 1960, to delete the names of voters who have registered their names in more than one constituency, who are not residing in their usual place of residence for too long, who have not submitted proof of residence, or who are now deceased.”
The official further clarified by saying, “The names are not just deleted at will. Those voters whose names appear in more than one assembly constituency are issued notices seeking their clarification. The names are put out in newspaper advertisements and only upon unsatisfactory replies, or no replies at all, are the names are deleted. Moreover, since the process is quasi-judicial, the law provides the remedy of lodging an appeal by the aggrieved voter whose name has been deleted. Besides, there is still time for such voters and new voters to enroll their names in the voters list in the summary revision of electoral rolls due to start from September 16.”
ECI sources argue that the deletion of names, especially of deceased voters, was started following complaints which pointed out that the total number of registered voters in the state almost matched the total state population.
Another reason why politicians are upset is the fact that the urban political pentagonal region between Mumbai City, Mumbai Suburban, Thane, Nashik and Pune alone, constitute 96 assembly constituencies out of the 288 assembly constituencies in the state. The Sena-BJP alliance has had a sizeable electoral presence in Mumbai City, Mumbai Suburban and Thane districts. The total voter population in these 96 assembly constituencies is 2.76 lakh, whereas the total number of names deleted is 2.04 lakh.
At present there are 7,99,19,274 crore registered voters in the state, of which 4,22,71,042 crore are male voters and 3,76,48,232 crore are female. Out of the 38,51,294 lakh duplicate entries and names of deceased voters that were deleted so far across 288 assembly constituencies, 31,30,527 lakh were deleted from 141 assembly constituencies alone. Amongst the assembly constituencies where a substantial deletion of voter names has taken place are Kothrud - 49,570, Thane - 48,654, Pune Cantonment - 47,478 and Parvati - 47,318.
The maximum number of names deleted in the state is 66,283 from the Solapur City Central assembly constituency, while the least number of deletions is 63 from the Warora assembly constituency. In Mumbai, the maximum deletions are 32,704 from the Dharavi (SC) assembly constituency, followed by 31,384 in Byculla.
The deletions across other constituencies in Mumbai are as follows: Colaba - 28,190, Malad West - 26,699, Vandare West - 22,805, Malabar Hill - 21,146, Wadala - 20,706, Worli - 18,978, Andheri West - 17,282 and Charkop - 15,915. Elsewhere in the state the deletions of duplicate names or names of deceased are as follows: Bhosari - 63,147, Panvel - 58,333, Shivajinagar - 53,225, Solapur City North - 51,488 and Hingna - 50,145. The least number of deletions across the state have been at Gondia - 356, Akot - 402, Murtizapur - 427 and Varsova - 725.
What is more intriguing, however, is that in the 12 assembly constituencies in the Pune division alone, the ECI had to delete 6.61 lakh such names. However, in the constituencies of Radhanagari only 807 names were deleted, while in Phaltan (SC) 911 such entries were removed.
Another BJP MLC Adv. Ashish Shelar had contended that in 67 booths in the Bandra West assembly constituency, which he had unsuccessfully contested in the 2009 assembly elections, the names of 8,716 voters were deleted from areas which had voted for the BJP-Sena, while Somaiya revealed that the names of several voters residing in the Mulund constituency have been deleted on grounds of duplicate entries or have been termed as deceased or having migrated elsewhere. In one such case, a lady Archana Ramesh Bagave, found her name deleted on the grounds that it figured in the Mulund, Gorai and Vikhroli rolls. He added that upon a verification of the photo-electoral rolls, all three Archana’s were found to be different.
Somaiya contended that while names are being deleted, the assembly constituencies of Mankhurd-Shivajinagar, Chandivali, Dindoshi and Anushakti Nagar have seen an increase in voter registration. He added that the EC staff has admitted that several names have been deleted without seeking an explanation, and the names of voters shifting residences have been added without seeking proper documentation.
The Number Game
Total Voter Population:
State – 288 Assembly constituencies - 7,98,54,016 lakh
Mumbai Suburban District – 26 Assembly constituencies - 72,64,609 lakh
Mumbai City District – 10 Assembly constituencies - 25,53,479 lakh
Thane District – 24 Assembly constituencies - 72,45,802 lakh
Highest Voter Registration:
Chandivali - 3,88,090 lakh (Mumbai Suburban District)
Lowest Voter Registration:
Wadala - 2,09,788 lakh (Mumbai City District)
Deletion of Duplicate Entries & Deceased Voters
Maximum Deletions (State):
Solapur City Central 66,283
Bhosari 63,147
Panvel 58,333
Shivajinagar 53,225
Solapur City North 51,488
Hingna 50,145
Kothrud 49,570
Thane 48,654
Pune Cantonment 47,478
Parvati 47,318
Maximum Deletion (Mumbai):
Dharavi (SC) – 32,704
Byculla – 31,384
Colaba – 28,190
Malad West – 26,699
Vandare West – 22,805
Malabar Hill – 21,146
Wadala – 20,706
Worli – 18,978
Andheri West – 17,282
Charkop – 15,915
Least Deletions (State)
Warora – 63
Gondia – 356
Akot – 402
Murtizapur – 427
Varsova – 725
Radhanagari – 807
Phaltan (SC) – 911
12 assembly constituencies in Pune district alone account for 6.61 lakh deletions
So they knew this well ahead of time, I assume BJP must have done its own calculations here. I guess we can put the matter to rest. This article is extremely detailed and as I said before, Kirit Somaiya, Ram Naik, Ashish Shelar all had the information by every segment as early as sep 2013.
BJP knew this all along, so my guess is that they were lazy (which i highly doubt this time), or it is just noise now
http://www.afternoondc.in/special-repor ... icle_91286
Deletion of voter names gives politicos sleepless nights
Friday, September 13, 2013
The mere deletion of names of 38.51 lakh voters, ostensibly deceased, duplicate entries, and voters who have not acknowledged the Election Commission of India’s (ECI) notices, has predictably raised the BJPs hackles. For the EC, BJP leader Dr. Kirit Somaiya appears to be talking through his hat. These occurrences, particularly the deletion of voter names, have apparently made Somaiya rather apprehensive.
When it comes to Lok Sabha elections, a loss by a few thousand votes hurts a candidate or party politically. In the 2009 Lok Sabha elections, Somaiya lost to NCP Sanjay Dina Patil from the Mumbai North-East constituency, by a slender margin of 2,933 votes, while his senior party colleague Ram Naik lost to Sanjay Nirupam (Congress) from Mumbai by a margin of 5,779 votes. Gajanan Kirtikar (Shiv Sena) also lost to Gurudas Kamat in the Mumbai North-West constituency by a margin of 38,387 votes.
Although the ECI has refused to make an official comment on Somaiya’s contention that the deletion of so many voters names was ‘rigged’ by subordinates acting under pressure from the ruling Congress-NCP alliance, it has nevertheless thrown the rule book at the BJP. What is also equally pertinent to note is that barring the original staff at the disposal of the ECI offices in the state, the rest of the staff, during election time, is drafted from education, revenue and civic bodies.
Most of the staff employed by the ECI is from the state revenue department. During the polls this staff is under the jurisdiction of the ECI and enjoys immunity under electoral laws for their actions during the election period. When there are no polls or voter enumeration drives, however, this staff on deputation is reverted to its parent department. Hence the opposition has always been skeptical of the government’s moves with respect to the transfer of bureaucrats before elections are announced.
Speaking to the ADC on conditions of anonymity, an ECI official in the state said, “The Electoral Registration Officer (ERO) who also happens to be the district collector has quasi-judicial powers under Sections 20 and 23 of the Representation of the People Act, 1950 and Registration of Voters Rules, 1960, to delete the names of voters who have registered their names in more than one constituency, who are not residing in their usual place of residence for too long, who have not submitted proof of residence, or who are now deceased.”
The official further clarified by saying, “The names are not just deleted at will. Those voters whose names appear in more than one assembly constituency are issued notices seeking their clarification. The names are put out in newspaper advertisements and only upon unsatisfactory replies, or no replies at all, are the names are deleted. Moreover, since the process is quasi-judicial, the law provides the remedy of lodging an appeal by the aggrieved voter whose name has been deleted. Besides, there is still time for such voters and new voters to enroll their names in the voters list in the summary revision of electoral rolls due to start from September 16.”
ECI sources argue that the deletion of names, especially of deceased voters, was started following complaints which pointed out that the total number of registered voters in the state almost matched the total state population.
Another reason why politicians are upset is the fact that the urban political pentagonal region between Mumbai City, Mumbai Suburban, Thane, Nashik and Pune alone, constitute 96 assembly constituencies out of the 288 assembly constituencies in the state. The Sena-BJP alliance has had a sizeable electoral presence in Mumbai City, Mumbai Suburban and Thane districts. The total voter population in these 96 assembly constituencies is 2.76 lakh, whereas the total number of names deleted is 2.04 lakh.
At present there are 7,99,19,274 crore registered voters in the state, of which 4,22,71,042 crore are male voters and 3,76,48,232 crore are female. Out of the 38,51,294 lakh duplicate entries and names of deceased voters that were deleted so far across 288 assembly constituencies, 31,30,527 lakh were deleted from 141 assembly constituencies alone. Amongst the assembly constituencies where a substantial deletion of voter names has taken place are Kothrud - 49,570, Thane - 48,654, Pune Cantonment - 47,478 and Parvati - 47,318.
The maximum number of names deleted in the state is 66,283 from the Solapur City Central assembly constituency, while the least number of deletions is 63 from the Warora assembly constituency. In Mumbai, the maximum deletions are 32,704 from the Dharavi (SC) assembly constituency, followed by 31,384 in Byculla.
The deletions across other constituencies in Mumbai are as follows: Colaba - 28,190, Malad West - 26,699, Vandare West - 22,805, Malabar Hill - 21,146, Wadala - 20,706, Worli - 18,978, Andheri West - 17,282 and Charkop - 15,915. Elsewhere in the state the deletions of duplicate names or names of deceased are as follows: Bhosari - 63,147, Panvel - 58,333, Shivajinagar - 53,225, Solapur City North - 51,488 and Hingna - 50,145. The least number of deletions across the state have been at Gondia - 356, Akot - 402, Murtizapur - 427 and Varsova - 725.
What is more intriguing, however, is that in the 12 assembly constituencies in the Pune division alone, the ECI had to delete 6.61 lakh such names. However, in the constituencies of Radhanagari only 807 names were deleted, while in Phaltan (SC) 911 such entries were removed.
Another BJP MLC Adv. Ashish Shelar had contended that in 67 booths in the Bandra West assembly constituency, which he had unsuccessfully contested in the 2009 assembly elections, the names of 8,716 voters were deleted from areas which had voted for the BJP-Sena, while Somaiya revealed that the names of several voters residing in the Mulund constituency have been deleted on grounds of duplicate entries or have been termed as deceased or having migrated elsewhere. In one such case, a lady Archana Ramesh Bagave, found her name deleted on the grounds that it figured in the Mulund, Gorai and Vikhroli rolls. He added that upon a verification of the photo-electoral rolls, all three Archana’s were found to be different.
Somaiya contended that while names are being deleted, the assembly constituencies of Mankhurd-Shivajinagar, Chandivali, Dindoshi and Anushakti Nagar have seen an increase in voter registration. He added that the EC staff has admitted that several names have been deleted without seeking an explanation, and the names of voters shifting residences have been added without seeking proper documentation.
The Number Game
Total Voter Population:
State – 288 Assembly constituencies - 7,98,54,016 lakh
Mumbai Suburban District – 26 Assembly constituencies - 72,64,609 lakh
Mumbai City District – 10 Assembly constituencies - 25,53,479 lakh
Thane District – 24 Assembly constituencies - 72,45,802 lakh
Highest Voter Registration:
Chandivali - 3,88,090 lakh (Mumbai Suburban District)
Lowest Voter Registration:
Wadala - 2,09,788 lakh (Mumbai City District)
Deletion of Duplicate Entries & Deceased Voters
Maximum Deletions (State):
Solapur City Central 66,283
Bhosari 63,147
Panvel 58,333
Shivajinagar 53,225
Solapur City North 51,488
Hingna 50,145
Kothrud 49,570
Thane 48,654
Pune Cantonment 47,478
Parvati 47,318
Maximum Deletion (Mumbai):
Dharavi (SC) – 32,704
Byculla – 31,384
Colaba – 28,190
Malad West – 26,699
Vandare West – 22,805
Malabar Hill – 21,146
Wadala – 20,706
Worli – 18,978
Andheri West – 17,282
Charkop – 15,915
Least Deletions (State)
Warora – 63
Gondia – 356
Akot – 402
Murtizapur – 427
Varsova – 725
Radhanagari – 807
Phaltan (SC) – 911
12 assembly constituencies in Pune district alone account for 6.61 lakh deletions
So they knew this well ahead of time, I assume BJP must have done its own calculations here. I guess we can put the matter to rest. This article is extremely detailed and as I said before, Kirit Somaiya, Ram Naik, Ashish Shelar all had the information by every segment as early as sep 2013.
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Twitter is abuzz with some BDs or Peacefuls having fake ids as Mukhmal Jain and SitaRam Pandit etc., So the clean up could be that...
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Sonia/Patel is the most vicious couple India has seen. They have tried very hard to destroy the fabric of India.
Its now or never it seems.
Its now or never it seems.
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This 42 year old Rajesh kumar Futarmal Jain person, id apparently MT/05/025/0033451, needs to be asked if he was born approximately 30 years young directly(for 70 years age approximation) and where do such miracles occur, and whether his father - shree Futarmal Jain - is his biological father or that he is an adopted child in which case his father must be at least 91 years now (70 +21 years approximation) at the minimum.Hari Seldon wrote: <snip>
...
Meanwhile, ... Consider one Mr Jain below...
How should this voter fraud be dealt with. Some amount of legitimacy is assumed by default because of modern methods such as biometric methods, or ex-IITian former Infosys head Nilekani, or CIA software for database .. and so on and so forth. Not to mention how global and local moral keepers and liberals are silent on this that directly affects Jain community. It would be shameful if communities' concerns are ignored.
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Yes, my aunt in Chennai tried for months to be on the rolls (she has lived and voted in same area for 50 years nearly!!). Could not vote. She is not the only one. The thing is that MH seems to be where most of these reports are coming from. So definitely something seems amiss in MH. Incompetence is a convenient excuse. It could be a great cover-your-ass strat-e-gee. All sorts of places for bias to operate and it isn't that hard to ensure such deletions happen. We can wait for the post-mortem. Hope it doesn't turn ugly.Sanku wrote:Chaanakya ji -- dont be so harsh. I do know people who had tried really hard but could not get their names in the list. I know people who had been voting for 25+ years from a certain location and had their names magically removed when they were least expecting it.chaanakya wrote: Only morons don't get to caste their votes..
Voting should not be a cross country steeple chase, with only the most dedicated person getting to the booth, it should be a easy, comfortable process where everyone who wants gets his name in the rolls in a simple non-intrusive way.
The voter rolls is a HUGE HUGE snafu.
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The odd thing is BJP and Shiv Sena already knew that voters were missing in Pune but did not raise a ruckus in Mumbai.
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TIMES NOW @timesnow 16m
Tamil Nadu and Odisha are going spring a surprise even for the BJP. we will have a significant representation: #JaitleySpeaksToArnab
TIMES NOW @timesnow 19m
Even if we get a majority, we should be open to smaller parties entering NDA: #JaitleySpeaksToArnab
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Let us take an analogy, an example wherein a mob is enraged and burns down a bus under some excuse.We can wait for the post-mortem. Hope it doesn't turn ugly.
What we don't notice here is that victims must also be members of certain many communities.
So who all are victims, who are mobs and how come leaders of the mobs got away - these are the moot questions.
Here EC states something, genuine voters are spread across regions while ever smart & ever powerful dilli billis are looking the other way only.
When maananiya Sharadrao Powersaaheb said that people can come from villages to vote again in Mumbai, in jest only, I thought at least these people are Bhaaratiya naagarika. But has soniaG/RG visited Maharashtra at all?
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http://news.oneindia.in/new-delhi/lok-s ... 22769.html
TN>
read: Only 19% feels the UPA government should be back for another chance
compare with: BJP may get 22% vote share, same as that in 2009 (6-10 seats)
connect the dots
TN>
read: Only 19% feels the UPA government should be back for another chance
compare with: BJP may get 22% vote share, same as that in 2009 (6-10 seats)
connect the dots
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another one:
There is a high support for BJP-AIADMK alliance among the voters of both the parties while DMK-Congress alliance also has same support. However, 30 per(cent are) they are unhappy with Jayalalithaa.
17 per cent respondents back Narendra Modi for the PM as against just 8 per cent for Jayalalithaa
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/tamil-nadu-p ... 37-64.html
There is a high support for BJP-AIADMK alliance among the voters of both the parties while DMK-Congress alliance also has same support. However, 30 per(cent are) they are unhappy with Jayalalithaa.
17 per cent respondents back Narendra Modi for the PM as against just 8 per cent for Jayalalithaa
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/tamil-nadu-p ... 37-64.html
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Pawan Durani @PawanDurani 1h
Watch out - biggest shock for Congress will be Amethi ....@smritiirani has the mads support
Sushma Swaraj @SushmaSwarajbjp 1h
Saturday 26.4.2014 - Public meetings in Telangana - Narsapur (Medak),Warangal, Choutuppal (Bhongir) and Hyderabad
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Why not submit a PIL to Supreme Court regarding the deletion matter? ECI is not above the law, and if the SC finds enough ground then a repoll can be ordered, isn't it?SanjayC wrote:Election Commission seems to be staffed with drunk monkeys.Shamlee wrote:Missing voter names: Illegal deletions, modifications of voter list galore
Very informative article in Moneylife.in. Goes to show that deletions were deliberate.
http://moneylife.in/article/missing-vot ... 37147.html
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JohneeG my figures here are for NDA.


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Fellow jingos,
I see all kinds of wild predictions flying around here about TamilNadu. Need to separate what is plausible from what is merely desirable. Let me inject some much needed sanity into this debate.
*PremKumar ( a fellow mullah from BRF), moi and about 5 others have been calling non-stop for 5 to 6 days before Apr 24th, the following constituencies.
-South Chennai
-Kanyakumari
-SivaGanga
-Tiruchi
*Yes, there is a Modi awareness, even among the lower strata of the folk in TN. Hard to characterize as a wave though.
*Another unmistakable point that we all noticed was that the BJP cadre was supercharged everywhere. Never seen this before.
*On the negative side, some of the allied candidates have turned out to be total jokers. For example, the NDA candidate in Tiruchy is from DMDK. This great candidate did not even bother to get and out and canvass. No one (incl the hardcore BJP aupporters) knew that DMDK is the NDA partner in this MP seat! Such is the state of the coalition efforts in some parts of TN.
*Another huge handicap is the total lack of street-level, jilla level nitty-gritty organizational framework for BJP in TN. The successive BJP state presidents have been largely ineffective. L.Ganeshan has this ill-repute (deserved or not, I don't know) that he is a bit too close to DMK for anybody's comfort. The current BJP state president Pon.Radhakrishnan is very well respected in Kanyakumari - Nagercoil area. But alas, his reach seems to be very restricted ( to the said areas only).
*Now that people are curious about Modi and are given an alternate choice other than the DMK- ADMK robber duo, the state BJP machinery needs to pour blood and sweat, literally, into street level, district level political fights, image building, community involement ityaadi to claw up to numero uno position.
*The Dravidian parties have huge, I mean huge, reserves of pelf that has been looted through decades old crony network cartels. That topic is a story for another day. I have some interesting stories about the DMK-ADMK bigwigs and their financial shenanigans from very reliable sources. Anyways...
*The regional goons (your PMK, MDMK, and DMDKs) are not slouches either. They have muscle power on the street, usually caste based.
*Thus as the BJP clout grows, all these looteras will see their gravy trains being upset and thus will engage in sabotage.
*For BJP it is a tough task but doable.
*Coming back to this election, the best that can be hoped for is to get enough seats to clip Amma's megolomaniacal wings a bit, that's all.
*I have one suggestion for BJP if they are serious about building image in TN. It is a bit cliched, I admit, but still here it goes! Get a Northie bigwig, preferably a lady that is easy on the eye, and let the said person learn to be fluent in SenTamizh. Remember, this is the land that built a Temple for Kushboo. Who knows, we might build another Temple, this time for a BJP person!
I see all kinds of wild predictions flying around here about TamilNadu. Need to separate what is plausible from what is merely desirable. Let me inject some much needed sanity into this debate.
*PremKumar ( a fellow mullah from BRF), moi and about 5 others have been calling non-stop for 5 to 6 days before Apr 24th, the following constituencies.
-South Chennai
-Kanyakumari
-SivaGanga
-Tiruchi
*Yes, there is a Modi awareness, even among the lower strata of the folk in TN. Hard to characterize as a wave though.
*Another unmistakable point that we all noticed was that the BJP cadre was supercharged everywhere. Never seen this before.
*On the negative side, some of the allied candidates have turned out to be total jokers. For example, the NDA candidate in Tiruchy is from DMDK. This great candidate did not even bother to get and out and canvass. No one (incl the hardcore BJP aupporters) knew that DMDK is the NDA partner in this MP seat! Such is the state of the coalition efforts in some parts of TN.
*Another huge handicap is the total lack of street-level, jilla level nitty-gritty organizational framework for BJP in TN. The successive BJP state presidents have been largely ineffective. L.Ganeshan has this ill-repute (deserved or not, I don't know) that he is a bit too close to DMK for anybody's comfort. The current BJP state president Pon.Radhakrishnan is very well respected in Kanyakumari - Nagercoil area. But alas, his reach seems to be very restricted ( to the said areas only).
*Now that people are curious about Modi and are given an alternate choice other than the DMK- ADMK robber duo, the state BJP machinery needs to pour blood and sweat, literally, into street level, district level political fights, image building, community involement ityaadi to claw up to numero uno position.
*The Dravidian parties have huge, I mean huge, reserves of pelf that has been looted through decades old crony network cartels. That topic is a story for another day. I have some interesting stories about the DMK-ADMK bigwigs and their financial shenanigans from very reliable sources. Anyways...
*The regional goons (your PMK, MDMK, and DMDKs) are not slouches either. They have muscle power on the street, usually caste based.
*Thus as the BJP clout grows, all these looteras will see their gravy trains being upset and thus will engage in sabotage.
*For BJP it is a tough task but doable.
*Coming back to this election, the best that can be hoped for is to get enough seats to clip Amma's megolomaniacal wings a bit, that's all.
*I have one suggestion for BJP if they are serious about building image in TN. It is a bit cliched, I admit, but still here it goes! Get a Northie bigwig, preferably a lady that is easy on the eye, and let the said person learn to be fluent in SenTamizh. Remember, this is the land that built a Temple for Kushboo. Who knows, we might build another Temple, this time for a BJP person!

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Narendra Modi alone can revive economy, provide jobs, says Loksatta Party
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 210687.cms
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 210687.cms
HYDERABAD: Loksatta Party will support BJP's Prime Ministerial nominee Narendra Modi as he is committed to providing jobs to youth by reviving the manufacturing sector and ensuring good governance, its President said.
The UPA Government has squandered a golden opportunity given to it for the last 10 years by indulging in and promoting corruption, destroying the economy by neglecting the manufacturing sector and resorting to politics of temporary sops to garner votes, Jayaprakash Naraya alleged at a press conference here.
Narayan said voters in Malkajgiri, from where he is contesting for the Lok Sabha, have already decided to vote against the Congress.
He described Modi as a genuine leader who rose from the ranks. "It is a matter of pride for Indian democracy that we have today a leader whose credentials have nothing to do with dynasty, caste or religion, or money power."
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Swami Agnivesh praises Modi slamming hate speech mongers
http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 989_1.html
http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 989_1.html
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Over 180000 names missing in Mumbai Elections listdna @dna 39m
Bombay High Court takes suo-moto cognizance of voter names missing in Mumbai. To order probe. : TV Reports
After problems in Pune EC should have been more vigilant in Mumbai: Vinita Deshmukh
Meenakshi Lekhi on Mumbai voting list fiasco
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dna @dna 1h
Maharashtra's deleted voters names: parties want repoll, CBI probe http://dnai.in/cbf8 #MyVote2014
The issue of deletion or diversion of six million voters' names in Maharashtra blew into a full-fledged controversy with demands ranging from repoll in all the state's 48 Lok Sabha constituencies to a CBI probe, following an apology tendered by Election Commissioner HS Brahma, who admitted to the lapse.
"Merely apologizing is not sufficient. It is like rubbing salt on the wounds of the six million-plus citizens who were denied their fundamental right to vote," Vidarbha Jan Andolan Samiti chief Kishore Tiwari said.
"The EC must compensate by ordering a complete repolling in the 48 Lok Sabha constituencies and sacking all the electoral officials concerned here, including chief electoral officer Nitin Gadre," Tiwari said.
"This is a lapse of monumental magnitude... The blunders by the state election department can have a major impact on the outcome of the 2014 elections," he said.
IANS had on April 19 first highlighted the issue of the six million-plus voters' names being deleted or missing from electoral rolls, which sparked off a furore among voters, candidates, political parties and officials.
The main political parties in the state, however, grabbed it as an opportunity to hammer each other.
The Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) blamed the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party-Shiv Sena for not checking the lists circulated in advance, while they retaliated by alleging it as "conspiracy of the Congress-NCP government with the bureaucracy" to avoid defeat in the elections.
BJP leader and Mumbai North-East candidate Kirit Somaiya lodged a police complaint, alleging "criminal negligence and conspiracy" as over names of over 100,000 voters were missing from his constituency.
Maharashtra Navnirman Sena leader and Mumbai South candidate Bala Nandgaonkar, terming it as a Congress-NCP conspiracy, sought a Central Bureau of Investigation probe into the state election department's lapses to find out who all are behind the conspiracy.
The leaders of 'Grand Alliance' of opposition parties, including Shiv Sena chief Uddhav Thackeray, BJP's Gopinath Munde and Republican Party of India-A chief Ramdas Athawale plan to meet Chief Election Commissioner VS Sampath to draw his attention to the issue.
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Devendra Fadnavis @Dev_Fadnavis 7h
A high level delegation to meetCEC. @uddhavthackeray ji,Gopinathji Munde,RamdasAthavle,RajuShetty,@TawdeVinod ,Mahadeo Jankar,VinayakTete,Me
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Ornob is carrying that "deer in headlights" look a lot these days. I guess he is worried that his game is up.pankajs wrote: At 8 PM tonight on Frankly Speaking: #JaitleySpeaksToArnab, says too many skeletons in Congress' cupboard
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Looks like while everyone was concerned about the Congis indulging in "EVM Magic" they were quietly working on something far easier to accomplish - Voter Roll Magic. In Mumbai at least, whoever I've heard complaining about their name being missing could have been pegged as a BJP/SS voter based on their last name alone.
If NaMo wins despite this gigantic fraud, I hope his govt. appoints a commission to investigate it and punish those in the EC who perpetrated it.
If NaMo wins despite this gigantic fraud, I hope his govt. appoints a commission to investigate it and punish those in the EC who perpetrated it.
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Face Kitab says the brother of MMS has joined BJP. This is crazy bhai. WTH is happening!
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/manmohan-sin ... 37-64.html
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/manmohan-sin ... 37-64.html
PM's stepbrother Daljeet Singh Kohli joins BJP, Modi welcomes him
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After his inclusion in the BJP, he said that Manmohan Singh was not given full authority to run the government for which he decided to join the saffron party.
Kohli further said, "Manmohan Singh never had a free hand in the working of the government and could not work to his capacity."
Reacting to the astounding development, Modi welcomed Kohli into the party. "I welcome him, this is the party of relationship, we make blood relations," said the BJP strongman.
An embarrassed PMO said, "Kohli is free to pursue his independent political career. Family is surprised by his move and his reasons are best known to him."
Kohli was also welcomed into the BJP by Jaitley and Punjab Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal.
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Nice tweetable picture. Any idea which party that goon is ? I know they won't make it obvious for deniability purposes.pankajs wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmE3rddCQAA25FA.jpg:large
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nachiket: As others pointed out, they weren't doing it quietly. The BJP has been pushing this matter stridently for quite some time, without enough response from the officialdom. As a result, they've clearly planned for the circumstances ahead of time, since they knew of this 1-2 years ago. It's the voters who found out yesterday and raised a stink themselves when they found they couldn't participate in these high profile elections.
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I'm now completely sure about TimesNow being paid money by Congress. Today just plugged into the debate and big banners read "Shocker from Ramdev..Baba Ramdev insults Dalits", "What does the BJP have to say about this?". Just browsed the web to find out what the actual issue was. It's the same case of taking things out of perspective and giving meaning to phrases. And TimesNow has this as the newhour debate. Even rNDTV was having a such saner debate. Now seeing that a lot of media houses have picked this piece of news. Come on! Either the mediahouses are dumb enough to not understand the meaning behind what's being said or they have been paid to malign BJP. And I'm sure it's the later in most cases. Just horrible!