Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

[pgbhat]

^^^^
Peddling BS by making up false names with fake articles.

[hulaku]

^^^ Besides Abhijay Patel they also have one Satinder Singh

Another ROTFL article

Scientists in Japan microscopically confirmed islam is the correct religion
http://www.daily.pk/scientists-in-japan ... gion-7703/

[SSridhar]

Selected N U G G E T S from the Urdu Press

These nuggets are culled from the Urdu press. They are summarised here without comment. Absurd or ridiculous, TFT takes no responsibility for them

‘Quran khwani’ for Michael Jackson

Daily Nawa-e-Waqt reported that in 1989, pop singer Michael Jackson had embraced Islam, therefore it was incumbent to hold Quran Khwani (recitation) for him after his death. His brother had already done Quran Khwani at his house.

Aslam Beg speaks again

Reported in Nawa-e-Waqt: ex-army chief Aslam Beg said that the recent troubles in the western province of China were being instigated by CIA, Mossad and RAW working together. He said Islamabad was providing a complex of headquarters for CIA in Islamabad, which was a sad event.

Wives divorced for ‘kukkar’

According to Khabrain, a jirga in Lakhi Ghulam Shah heard a case of the killing of a number of kukkars (male chickens), after which it decided that the three men found guilty would have to divorce their wives. The three men quickly agreed. The roosters, killed through poisoning, are held in high honour by the people of the area; the wives are not.

‘Sifarish’ travels abroad

Columnist Izharul Haq wrote in Nawa-e-Waqt that when President Zardari was in France, someone did sifarish for a non-diplomat Pakistani ambassador in Paris. It reminded the columnist of the visit to Pakistan of President Johnson, who was asked by a tribal khan in Peshawar to get his relative appointed tehsildar in Pakistan. The sifarish was fruitful.

And now Muslim League (Kashmala)

Columnist Nazir Naji wrote in Jang that the Muslim League, the founding party of Pakistan, first split when Suhrawardi made his Awami League out of it. What was left was known as Qayyum League. General Ayub made it into Convention League; what was left was called Council League. Convention League was weakened by Ayub’s exit and became Qasim League which became Kabir Wasti League, to merge with PMLQ. There were also a Fida groups and a Junejo group. PMLN now rules supreme, challenged by Q League, challenged by its Kashmala Group.

Iftikhar Chaudhry as Muhammad bin Qasim

Chief editor Jinnah wrote that after reading his editorial Yeh Daur Apnay Muhammad bin Qasim ki Talash main hai (“This era is looking for its Muhammad Bin Qasim”), Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry of the Supreme Court of Pakistan had called for a report on the subject of the editorial. He wrote that Muhammad bin Qasim had been found in the person of Justice Chaudhry.

Indian plot to avenge Mumbai

Writing in Jang, Irfan Siddiqi stated that Ahmad Quraishi wrote that Indians had sent 500 trained commandos into Afghanistan. They will come into Pakistan and attack installations and stage attacks into buildings the same way as the Mumbai attacks. After that, a nuclear device will be exploded in Afghanistan and Pakistan will be blamed.

Nothing happened in Swat

Columnist Major General (Retd) Shafiq Ahmad Awan wrote in Nawa-e-Waqt that no one spoke of rebellion in Malakand, no one talked of autonomy there either, no one demanded takeover of administration and no one suspected the Constitution of Pakistan and yet Malakand was attacked by the army. This was done on the basis of rumours spread by American CIA, its agents and short-sighted Pakistanis. Burning of girls’ schools was not a serious matter.

America wants Pakistani uranium

Quoted in daily Jinnah, Jamaat-e-Islami leader Liaquat Baloch said that America was after South Punjab now because it was after the uranium being extracted in Dera Ghazi Khan in South Punjab. He said America was forcing Pakistan to start an operation in South Punjab and the Mian Channu incident of the teacher terrorist was a part of that plot. Freshly let off by the Court, Maulana Aziz of Lal Masjid Islamabad also said the same thing in Nawa-e-Waqt.

Police and ‘kukri’

Chief Editor Khushnood Ali Khan wrote in Jinnah that the police manning barricades in Islamabad were not competent. He proposed a test: a kukri (hen) should be let off across the barricade and the police should be asked to catch it. He claimed that the police would not catch the kukri.

Deep crisis for Pakistan

Columnist Haroon Rasheed wrote in Jang that Pakistan was into its deepest crisis as foreign press blackmailed it on behalf of the mysterious (pur-israr) powers standing behind it. India was about to take its revenge, talking sweet while hiding a dagger under its arm (baghal main chchuri munh mein ram-ram).

Describing liberal fascists

Describing liberal fascists in Jang, Hamid Mir wrote that they called themselves secularists but they were alienated from religion and hated the religious people. Their economic interests were bound with America, whose policies they defended although they didn’t support them openly. They recommended military operations in the Tribal Areas and supported the drone attacks, and their general drift was to serve their American masters (aqa).

[SSridhar]

Gojra Bad, Blasphemy Good - Khaled Ahmed in TFT
Excerpts

. . . while the non-clerical person condemned the attack without reservations, the clerics had their reservations.

Gojra compared with Bosnia: Mr Fareed Paracha of the Jama’at-e Islami was saying one kind of thing, unthinkingly because it had sinister implications, the others were citing counter-versions to justify the assault on the Christians. Mr Paracha during a TV discussion condemned the mob attack but began to refer to the killing of Muslims in Bosnia, unwittingly describing the Gojra killings as a kind of revenge for what happened to the Muslims of Bosnia in the civil war that followed the break-up of Yugoslavia.

Pakistani Christians are not zimmi: The parallel with Bosnia was wrong on other counts too. The Christians of Pakistan are equal citizens under the Constitution and under Islam. They are indigenous and have not migrated into Pakistan from elsewhere; nor are they the ‘defeated party’. Since the category of the zimmi minority in Islam is set up on the basis of non-participation in the wars to defend the motherland, Christians are not zimmi .

The Christians of Pakistan have given their blood in our wars against India and have been decorated for bravery out of all proportion to their numbers. No one went after them with accusations of blasphemy up to the time when General Zia-ul Haq issued the blasphemy ordinance and the later civilian government toughened it further with minimum death.

The Christians are mostly poor people living in the countryside where their settlements date back to times preceding the settlement of Muslims. Their charity work is more prominent, non-discriminatory and widespread than that of the Muslims. They dominate in education and health. One possible reason why Chief minister Shehbaz Sharif was emotional when he promised the Christians justice and rehabilitation during his visit to Gojra was that he and his brother Nawaz Sharif had gone to a Christian missionary school.

Law as an act of anger: The clergy and the Urdu press have never looked at the laws governing blasphemy and desecration as an instigator of the extreme reaction of the Muslim mobs. Is intolerance a consequence of the laws or are the laws a consequence of the trend of intolerance among Muslims? There is no doubt that the laws are intemperate as measures of justice. Their language is extreme and they seem to invite people to think in extreme and final terms. There can be no doubt that they act as ‘persuaders’ if not the direct cause of violence. That is why the governments in the past – and the Council of Islamic Ideology – have talked of repealing or amending them or appending to them procedures that would render them without teeth.

Opposition to repeal: First let us see what the Urdu press said about the suggestion of revisiting the laws. The editorial of Nawa-e-Waqt (August 8, 2009) opposed any suggesting of repealing or amending the law because it was non-discriminatory and was meant to stop people from taking the law into their hands or awami radd-e-amal ko roknay kayliay (sic!). It pointed to the other evidence of the commission of desecration by the Gojra Christians.

The editorial asked: why should the government be keen to finish a law meant as a deterrent against people intent on insult? Why should it be keen to interfere in these sensitive religious matters when it doesn’t feel pushed enough to punish a dictator who has defiled the Constitution? The editorial warned the Christian leaders against issuing frequent statements favouring a repeal of the insult laws.

Enemy behind the incident: Daily Pakistan (August 8, 2009) also editorialised against the suggestion of a review of the insult laws, especially the law of insult to the Prophet PBUH which has become a law against the insult of all prophets according to a court interpretation. (Pakistan doesn’t know what it is getting into by pledging to punish the insulters of all prophets, mainly because our judges haven’t read the Old Testament.)

The editorial repeats the argument of Nawa-e-Waqt that the blasphemy law was made expressly to prevent the Muslims from attacking a blasphemer and punishing him without putting him through the process of law. It also repeated the oft-repeated view in the media that a dushman (enemy) could be behind the incident in Gojra, implying that India, America or Israel could be behind it all.

Conspiracy from the UK: Daily Jinnah (August 8, 2009) encapsulated the view from the Muslim orthodoxy and possibly also from the jihadi organisations when it published a column by Chaudhry Zabihullah Balkan who ‘revealed’ more about the incident at Gojra than the readers knew. He welcomed the judicial inquiry into the incident under Justice Iqbal Haider because he is the son of the great chief justice of Pakistan, the late Hamoodur Rehman, who had headed the inquiry into the East Pakistan debacle.

The column talks about the mysterious guest from the United Kingdom who arrived in Gojra with plans to desecrate the Quran. It condemned the trend of accepting without proof the accusation of arrival of masked men from Jhang who set fire to the houses of the Christians. This ‘guest’ from England was actually caught and handed over to the police but a phone call from Islamabad forced the police to release this muqaddas mehman (sacred guest).

Christians fired first? According to the column, the offending Christians got on top of the roofs of their houses armed with rifles and fired on the protesting Muslims at the instigation of two Christian sons of a man called Shahu resulting in the wounding of several Muslims. After that the Muslims could hardly hold back their wrath. {AoA} If in the Gojra incident everyone involved is to blame, then the Muslims are least to blame, concludes the column.

One very ambiguous column by Afzaal Rehan in daily Pakistan (August 9, 2009) seems inclined to condemn the vigilante action that killed and burned houses in Gojra except for several sentences that blame the West for all violence: foreign states and their societies protest against intolerance but their protest seems flecked with religious hatred. ( Mazhabi manafrat ka naag). If a Muslim is named Muhammad or Osama, why is the West disturbed upon seeing him? The column is too ambiguous to be called a fair comment on Gojra.

No repeal is possible: There will be a strong opposition to the repeal of the blasphemy law. The Urdu press will join the ‘empowered’ clergy in scaring the government away from repeal. {Forget about repeal which is absolutely impossible. The government cannot even make minor modifications} Already the two communities are opposed to the PPP and tilted heavily in favour of the PMNLN which will not touch the law it had helped toughen in one of its earlier tenures. No amendments will help either because ‘procedural’ changes in the process of the registration of the FIR have not caught on.

In fact at this point not even a repeal will help; even less possible is the prevention of conflation of blasphemy and desecration in the minds of the common man. Given the TV sermon-driven opinion today, it would be better to give death even for desecration. Isn’t the Quran as big a miracle as the person of the Prophet PBUH? The state is too weak in the face of its non state actors to do much against the curse of vigilante action against the non-Muslims in general and the Christians in Punjab. {Khaled Ahmed never sounded more despondent than now. Things have really become very bad in Pakistan because this Government is weaker than Musharraf's}

[RajeshA]

^^^^Did you notice the name of the author of that article? --> Abhijay Patel

^^^^
Peddling BS by making up false names with fake articles.

Previous Sightings of Murkhta

[ArmenT]

Guess you learn something new every day. Did you know that the original "Rocket-Missile Man of Pakistan" was a Polish gentleman named Władysław_Turowicz. The guy even became a SUPARCO administrator .

[Rishi]

indeed! They had 30 Polish officers in the PAF in 1965!!

[krishnan]

Guess you learn something new every day. Did you know that the original "Rocket-Missile Man of Pakistan" was a Polish gentleman named Władysław_Turowicz. The guy even became a SUPARCO administrator .

Air. Com. Wladyslaw Turowicz was involved in a car accident on 8 January 1980 along with his driver. He was quickly taken to the military hospital where he was pronounced dead

[shiv]

Guess you learn something new every day. Did you know that the original "Rocket-Missile Man of Pakistan" was a Polish gentleman named Władysław_Turowicz. The guy even became a SUPARCO administrator .

This is an effort by kafirs to take credit for the work of the faithfools.

[Rahul M]

He also led a squadron of combat craft in which he annihilated the Indian Air Force.[citation needed {WHAT ?}]

[harbans]

About the Polish Airforce gus in the PAF..just one thing odd (from the wiki link):

During the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965, Turowicz flew the American-built F-86 Sabre and defended Lahore from the Indian Air Force. He also led a squadron of combat craft in which he annihilated the Indian Air Force..

And it's not the 'annihilation' part it's how..

Air Commodore Wladysław Józef Marian Turowicz, (April 23, 1908 – November 8, 1980)

Guy was 57 years of age flying Sabre Jets and annihilating the SDRE jets..along with 30 other pilots from Poland. How normal is it for 57 year olds flying combat dogfight era aircraft?

Plus this clearly shows Paki Space, Missile programs are not Islamic but developed by Catholics..

Good find!

[Rishi]

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[Philip]

Is the word "Paki" also a Polish joke coined by Jinnahski?

The foll. could be termed,"Introspection over Independence" by a Paki journo.

"The absurdity of such claims – particularly when they are made by an organisation that must know better – may seem mind-boggling, but the mindset behind them ought to be familiar to all Pakistanis. They are, after all, the product of a nationhood that has for more than six decades defined itself negatively. Pakistan, from the outset, was the un-India."

Separated at birth By Mahir Ali
Wednesday, 12 Aug, 2009 |

The spectre of war has not, however, been banished for good: in the past decade alone, it has hovered over the neighbours on at least three occasions. —AP/File photo

THE probable decapitation of a leading faction of the Pakistani Taliban could be considered an auspicious augury in the run-up to the nation’s Independence Day, although the delay obtaining confirmation of Baitullah Mehsud’s demise also serves as a reminder that, notwithstanding their nomenclature, the tribal areas are not in any meaningful sense federally administered.

At the time of writing, mystery also continued to surround the fate of rival claimants to Baitullah’s blood-soaked mantle. These dramatic incidents were preceded by confusion over Islamabad’s South Waziristan strategy, with a concerted military push in the Swat vein postponed amid persistent rumours – occasionally lamely denied – of back-channel contacts with Baitullah, apparently in an attempt to thrash out some sort of a deal.

It is possible, of course, that the intent behind these contacts was more devious, the idea being to pinpoint the Taliban chieftains so that the coordinates could be passed on to the Americans.

Be that as it may, it is unlikely that Baitullah Mehsud’s removal from the scene and the consequent battle for succession will obviate the need for a military operation. Nor do the means of his dispatch invalidate the argument that the ‘collateral damage’ produced by Predator attacks is both morally repugnant and tactically self-defeating. Perhaps the most bizarre aspect of the Baitullah affair, however, is the insinuation that the Taliban have been receiving assistance from India.

This allegation was deployed to sow disaffection against Baitullah among his followers by appealing to their instinctive hostility towards Pakistan’s eastern neighbour. But there are indications that it may not have been merely a cynical piece of disinformation: there is at least a chance that those who concocted this canard have persuaded themselves to take it seriously. It surfaced, for instance, in a briefing given by the suddenly PR-savvy Inter-Services Intelligence directorate to The Guardian’s correspondent Declan Walsh, who was also told that ‘Indian officials had orchestrated last November’s Mumbai attacks [in order to] cover up an investigation into Hindu extremism’.

The absurdity of such claims – particularly when they are made by an organisation that must know better – may seem mind-boggling, but the mindset behind them ought to be familiar to all Pakistanis. They are, after all, the product of a nationhood that has for more than six decades defined itself negatively. Pakistan, from the outset, was the un-India. In the eyes of Mohammad Ali Jinnah, a Muslim-majority state did not necessarily entail a departure from essentially secular ideals, but the Objectives Resolution, passed just months after his demise in September 1948, effectively put paid to his vision.

It could certainly be argued that the pre-eminence of faith in Pakistan was a more or less inevitable consequence of the partition of India along confessional lines. Then again, the inadequacy of religion as a glue was established beyond reasonable doubt as soon as Pakistan dared, for the first time, to conduct a general election. At the same time, it is obviously gratifying that India and Pakistan have avoided hostilities on a mass scale since 1971. The spectre of war has not, however, been banished for good: in the past decade alone, it has hovered over the neighbours on at least three occasions.

It surfaced most recently in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Mumbai late last year – and it is quite likely that sparking a fourth Indo-Pakistan war was one of the primary aims of the perpetrators. In the immediate aftermath of the atrocities, many broadly reasonable Indians were driven to the conclusion that nothing short of military action would suffice as a response. It was widely rumoured at the time that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh threatened to resign in case the cabinet overruled his insistence on giving diplomacy a chance.

Fortunately for the subcontinent, his gamble paid off. However, the level of tension, not to mention the flak that has unfairly been directed at Singh following his reasonably innocuous joint statement at Sharm el Sheikh with his Pakistani counterpart, serves as a reminder of ingrained mutual hostilities – although there can be little doubt that on the Indian side they have periodically been heightened by the perverse activities of groups such as Lashkar-i-Taiba; and briefings such as the one by the ISI cited earlier can only serve to enhance the suspicion that such groups are proxy actors for the state.

Historically, state agencies on both sides have indeed been involved in subversive activities, often undeterred by thaws at the diplomatic level: the Pakistan Army’s Kargil misadventure obviously takes the cake in this category, but it wasn’t the only instance of its kind. This partly explains why ostensibly hopeful signs at the official level have paid relatively few concrete dividends over the past decade or so. But arguably the main deterrent to harmonious, mutually beneficial relations has been a mental block that ought to have withered away by now.

Its persistence bears testimony in part to the strength of forces that have a vested interest in demonising the historical foe. The animosity cannot be wished away by the odd conciliatory statement at the official level. It calls for a veritable re-education campaign, with government efforts generously supplemented by private endeavours. The likeliest alternative is a pair of nations drifting into senescence while clinging to traits more commonly associated with juvenile delinquency.

In the event, Pakistan would be the bigger loser – although both nations are encumbered by a plethora of problems, from religious fanaticism to endemic poverty, that would be considerably easier to tackle in a less acrimonious atmosphere.

It is both remarkable and tragic that the bogy of a ‘foreign hand’ even surfaced, albeit momentarily, in the wake of the unspeakable atrocity at Gojra, where a lynch mob of Muslim bigots recently burned alive a Christian family out of sheer bloodymindedess. There was a glimmer of hope, however, in that the crime prompted millions of Pakistanis to hang their heads in shame. But it would probably take a considerably broader and deeper sense of remorse to presage enlightenment on a paradigm-shifting scale.

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[Philip]

..and another scribe,
"Pakistan,the state the Qaid would not have.."

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -389-zj-02

‘Here I should like to give a warning to the landlords and capitalists who have flourished at our expense by a system which is so vicious, which is so wicked and which makes them so selfish that it is difficult to reason with them. The exploitation of the masses has gone into their blood. They have forgotten the lesson of Islam. … There are millions and millions of our people who hardly get one meal a day. Is this civilisation? Is this the aim of Pakistan? Do you visualise that millions have been exploited and cannot get one meal a day? If that is the idea of Pakistan, I would not have it.’ — Quaid-i-Azam, Delhi, 1943

No apology is necessary for flinging a somewhat longish quote from the state’s founding father in the face of his successors who have stopped respecting his legacy.
Instead of using national days to broadcast meaningless resolutions about fulfilling the Quaid’s mission, it would be appropriate tomorrow (Independence Day) to face the question: has Pakistan become the state the Quaid-i-Azam would not have?

[Hari Seldon]

US 'OK' with security level at Pak N-sites

Whew. What a relief. Now we can sleep peacefully knowing all must be well only.

[anandsgh]

About the Polish Airforce gus in the PAF..just one thing odd (from the wiki link):

During the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965, Turowicz flew the American-built F-86 Sabre and defended Lahore from the Indian Air Force. He also led a squadron of combat craft in which he annihilated the Indian Air Force..

And it's not the 'annihilation' part it's how..

Air Commodore Wladysław Józef Marian Turowicz, (April 23, 1908 – November 8, 1980)

Guy was 57 years of age flying Sabre Jets and annihilating the SDRE jets..along with 30 other pilots from Poland. How normal is it for 57 year olds flying combat dogfight era aircraft?

Plus this clearly shows Paki Space, Missile programs are not Islamic but developed by Catholics..

Good find!

This Polish guy was born in 1908. OK

Due to this passion, he moved to Warsaw where he attended Warsaw University of Technology in 1920, majoring in aeronautical engineering; upon graduation, he received his PhD with honors in 1926.

Now, He got a PhD Honors in 1926. According to the SDRE Maths, thats actually an age when one gets a Highschool Diploma! If this is true then he is a genius, Getting a Honors PhD at the age of 18 and flying Sabre Jet at age of 57 and annihilating the Indian Air Force, You have to admit. You kufr SDREs.

[pgbhat]

US 'OK' with security level at Pak N-sites

Whew. What a relief. Now we can sleep peacefully knowing all must be well only.

Well with 1000 marines coming around, may be US *really* thinks so. plus god knows how many satellites and drones monitor the sites.

[rkirankr]

US 'OK' with security level at Pak N-sites

Whew. What a relief. Now we can sleep peacefully knowing all must be well only.

Well with 1000 marines coming around, may be US *really* thinks so. plus god knows how many satellites and drones monitor the sites.

Or is the bum moved to a safer place by Unkil and what is present at the sites is just empty dabbas

[Gagan]

OK you dirty <edit>, cower in your dhotis. Pak is making an ICBM after India tested its Agni-IV.
An ICBM with 7,000-km range on its way?

ISHFAQULLAH SHAWL
ISLAMABAD (August 13 2009): Pakistan is contemplating developing an Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) with a 7,000 km range to make the country's defence impregnable { I thought thy had already made it im-pregnable eons ago } and strengthen the armed forces of the country against any offence. The plan was evolved after successful test fire of Agni IV, the Indian ICBM system with a target range of 6000 km, which caused an imbalance of power in South Asia, extremely well informed defence sources told Business Recorder here on Wednesday.{ Did the Indians test a 6000Km Missile? Well pakistan has to counter with a 7000 km missile - or at least one which says 7000 on the brochure }

And
ICBM: Pakistan intercontinental missile underway

Technology to cover range of 7,000 Kms, Pakistan, to increase its defensive capabilities, has started preparing intercontinental missile with a range of 7000 kilometres.

According to sources, the intercontinental missile has a range of 7000 kilometres and is capable of hitting its target falling within its range. The missile can contain nuclear as well as traditional warheads. The missile has been termed a significant milestone for the defence of the country and is believed to strengthen the defence. According to sources, the missile would soon be test fired.

PAF to get airborne refullers next year: Pakistan Air Force plans to induct four Chinese airborne refullers next year, in a move to counter the Indian Air Forces’ enhanced capabilities after New Delhi acquired six similar aircraft, an Indian news agency quoted the PAF chief as saying.

He also termed as “alarming” the IAF’s intention of purchasing 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft, saying Pakistan needed “to have something matching.{ Looks like lots of Alarms'r going off within pakistan these days, Arihant, 126 MRCA, 6 C-130s, Phalcons, MKIs, Balochistan etc etc }

[saip]

Impregnable: Cannot become pregnant
(Old polish Joke)

[Gagan]

Pakistan ain't exactly 'pregnant with possibilities'

[RajeshA]

But Pakis are impregnable to reason.

[satya]

Won't be a surprise if TSP pulls out an 7K ICBM for the commitment & dedication its twin masters are showing ,anything & everything is possible . Will be nice if try to look at events in TSP from our relations with its Twin Masters & how these events will affect & shape those relations.

[Rishi]

1 Pakistani km = 10 Indian km. Please remember. Shameful

[RajeshA]

70,000 km ICBM?

[Rishi]

70,000 km ICBM?

No no. Paki media has helpfully converted it to kuffr km only. 700 Paki KM = 7000 Indian KM. Do you understand?

[Gagan]

How are they going to test it? Pakistan is only 1800 Kms long, even if you include the Northern Areas.
This means that they'll have to test it over the sea. They don't have a navy ship that can travel 7000 Km . The Khans and the yindoos will retrieve the missile and read all the Mandrain and North Korean in there.
Unless they decide to test it on a "depressed" trajectory to a range of 1000 Km onlee.

[manish]

OK you dirty Bhindians, cower in your dhotis. Pak is making an ICBM after India tested its Agni-IV.
An ICBM with 7,000-km range on its way?

ISHFAQULLAH SHAWL

May be Ishfaqullah is just throwing in his Shawl (towel) and conceding that they have become im-pregnable(ref saip post above ) after multiple instances of multipoint entry-reentry performed by Amritraj types.

[SSridhar]

Pak-KSA Relationship, from TFT

During his reign as King, Faisal formed a close alliance with Pakistan. In 1979, the city of Lyallpur was renamed ‘Faisalabad’ or ‘The City of Faisal.’ The Faisal Mosque in Islamabad, funded by Saudi money, was also named after him, along with the Shahrah-e-Faisal highway in Karachi and Shah Faisal Colony near the Karachi Airport. Moreover, a Pakistan Air Force base in Karachi was named the Faisal Base in his honour. Most of all, his presence at the historic Islamic Summit at Lahore in 1974, lent great support to the cause of the unity of the Islamic ummah. Most significantly, sources claim that it was King Faisal’s outreach to Pakistan that resulted in discussions about the latter country building an atomic bomb. There is strong evidence that the Saudis offered to underwrite Pakistan’s expenses in the building of the bomb. This relationship continued apace, but after Faisal’s demise, lost its anti-imperialist hue and encouraged the spread of Wahhabism throughout Pakistan. The Saudis’ underwriting of the bomb explains why the last call the then PM Nawaz Sharif made before testing the device in 1998 was to King Fahd, and not to President Bill Clinton of the US who had been urging Pakistan not to test.

[archan]

70,000 km ICBM?

You never know, there may be kafirs in other planets and Pakistan, being the leader of Ummah will have to be at the forefront of the Islamic defense and offense.

[Gagan]

Pakistan tends to announce it better ranged missile right before India tests the real thing, as a means to assuage public opinion in la-la land.
They've done this with claims of a sub-launched barber missile when the K-15 was tested, raand missile when the Air launched brahmos was announced. If they are now announcing a 7K missile, this means that GoI if finally getting around to allowing DRDO to test that Agni V that's been built for like a year now.
This one's got a range of like 11,000 Km with supposedly 3-5 Mirvs, so the paki 7K range claim falls short. Watch out for a quick correction by the pakis to make their missile's range officially 1000 Km more than the indian missile's range.

Great, now the paks can officially call for the creation of Britanistan under the shadow of the pak-bum-atop-the-mijjile. They can threaten Spain and Israel and Algeria and Nigeria. Paki generals can fly non stop to pyongyang in 25 minutes, since that is just about 7K Km. And and you know what, pakistan can erase New Delhi and bombay from the missile and point it to the sky to launch it own moon mission, mars mission, interstellar-inter galaxy mission and even a geostationary satellite!

[shravan]

Pak Christians stage demonstration in New York against Gojra killings

New York, Aug.14 (ANI): Several Pakistani Christians took to the streets here and staged a demonstration in front of the United Nations to protest against the Gojra riots in which nine Christians were killed and several others injured.

When did Pakistani Christians go to America

[Rishi]

From blog e Jalebi

http://marvimemon.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/press-10/

In camera briefing is requisite to the parliament of the threat about separatist movements and international interference in Balochistan. Govt should start Dosar diplomacy without delay so that Indian interference should be stopped and evidence regarding Indian interference should be provided in front of the world.

Dosar diplomacy?

Rehman Malik said to come into his office and she will be provided with full justice.

[Gagan]

Unfortunately the lungi-salwar test can't be applied here to verify if they are actually pakistanis.
Its all a conspiracy by the zionists Mossad-CIA-RAW.

[Gagan]

In camera briefing

What's so funny about it hain? The de-breifing was off camera, the breifing was in camera. Get a life all of you.

Dosar in bangla means "emotional companion". There was a rituparno ghosh movie by this name too. So why is Rehman malik proposing dosar diplomacy with the lady hain?

[Rishi]

Dosar = Dossier?

[RajeshA]

70,000 km ICBM?

You never know, there may be kafirs in other planets and Pakistan, being the leader of Ummah will have to be at the forefront of the Islamic defense and offense.

We need the martial race of Pakistanis to be on the frontline against alien invasions. Green painted missiles are very effective against the Red Martians. We also need not fear the Jem'Hadar, the Borg, the Cardassians, the Romulans, the Kazon, the Goa'uld, the Wraith or the Ori. Pakistani Fauj to the rescue. And the Taliban can take on the Suliban any day! Phew!

In a 2001 interview (prior to the September 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center) in the Star Trek Communicator fanzine, executive producer Rick Berman revealed that the Suliban were named after the Taliban.

BTW, does Pakistanis remind any of you of any alien species?

No don't do that. It will push this threat OT, just like this post!

[Sanku]

Hot of the press, Jaswant Singh speaks the BRF lingo

Nehru, Patel 'conceded' Pakistan to Jinnah: Jaswant
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nehru ... t/502176/2

"It is ironical that among the great constitutionalists of those times, Jinnah and Nehru became the principal promoters of 'special status for Muslims'; Jinnah directly and Nehru indirectly.

"...The irony of it is galling when sadly, we observe that both of them, these two great5 Indians of their times were either actually or in effect competing to become the 'spokesman of Muslims' in India."

[amdavadi]

Dosar = Dossier?

Jalebi meant dosa diplomacy, as in we are all SDRE

[harbans]

Very Bojitive Neuj, Gola goes singing and becomes sensation:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ation.html