The Levant crisis.(Israel,SYRIA,Lebanon,etc)

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 13 Nov 2015 23:52

The thing is, you probably only catch the marginal fighters in a situation like that. That guy may not even have wanted to fight given his choices by ISIS. So he gave up. Still, he may pay the ultimate price anyway given the hatred that ISIS has generated. So he is f**ked no matter which way he decided to commit to. Such are the casualties of war and terror.

Boy, would I like to be at the O-club tonight at the drone control air force base near Las Vegas. The crew that was on duty when the Kuwaiti murderer was aced won't be able to buy a drink tonight. Their money will be no good at the O-club. The dude that they aced was big game. He was wearing huge antlers. I mean trophy sized. There will many a toast and impromptu speeches tonight at the O-club and lots of overall craziness.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Nov 2015 00:16

UB ji, that photo is as much "Show and Tell" as it is justice.

TSJ: For the West, there was Jihadi John, the one who killed on YouTube videos. For the Yezidis, everyone of these ISIS scum rats are Jihadi John. It was there Sunni Arab neighbours who pointed them out, hosted Daesh flag and sometimes even killed them. For these Yezidis the pleasure of even this one in the photo is no less (if not greater) than that of the ace who got Johnny boy.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 02:20

I knew it! It was all so effing dumb that even an idiot can get it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYZKVsjyxg4

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Nov 2015 02:24

Russia Dismisses Claims S-400 Missiles Deployed In Syria But Photos Do Show Component Radar

http://www.interpretermag.com/putin-in- ... ent-radar/

onle one photo but then they have their version Diwali video

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 02:32

Huge ISIS soosai uploaded Nov13 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzmt2dl7EFg

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 02:37

Peshmerga enters Sinjar; Fkd situation of this village is representative of pretty much entire Syria and parts of Iraq.
Uploaded Nov 13, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX24cBIqRS8

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 14 Nov 2015 02:53

Russia plane crash: Moscow bans Egypt Air flights after jet crash

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 05:35

Germany sends Syrians back to EU borders - Nov 10, 2015
http://www.thelocal.de/20151110/germany ... or-syrians

Germany is once again sending Syrian refugees back to the EU country where they first arrived, in line with the so-called Dublin regulations, the government confirmed on Tuesday.

Refugees must learn to respect German values (10 Nov 15)
In August it emerged that for Syrian refugees, Germany had stopped following the Dublin rules, which stipulate that refugees must apply for asylum in the EU state where they first enter the 28-member union.

The move was in part to alleviate the burden on countries like Italy and Greece where hundreds of thousands of migrants have been arriving by boat.

But a spokesman for the Interior Ministry confirmed on Tuesday that Germany is now applying the Dublin procedure for all countries of origin and all member states at which migrants arrive - except Greece. This has been the case "for Syrian nationals, since October 21st", he confirmed.

At the beginning of October, Chancellor Angela Merkel called the Dublin rules "obsolete" as they put the burden on EU states where migrants first arrive to process claims for refugee status.

Still, of the refugees currently arriving in the country, few have actually been registered in another EU country before arriving in Germany.

The Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF) reported that in October 1,777 people were sent back to other EU countries due to the Dublin rules - 5.6 percent of all decisions on refugee status made that month.

Out of all asylum decisions made so far this year, just 8.5 percent - 17,410 - have been to send people back under the Dublin rules.

In October, 181,166 refugees arrived in Germany, of which 88,640 were Syrian. { from where are the remaining from? Iraq? }

Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière and his office have been pushing for tighter controls on refugees recently, causing serious fractures within Germany's coalition government.

De Maizière unexpectedly announced on Saturday that Syrians would no longer be awarded three years' residency in Germany and that they could no longer bring their families with them at a later point.

But it quickly became clear that his comments did not have the backing of more senior figures in the government, who said the asylum process for Syrian refugees would not be changed.

However the interior minister received backing from powerful figures in the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU), putting pressure on Merkel to revise her policy towards Syrian refugees.

{ highlighted portion needs to be read in the context of the video I posted weeks before from Nikolai Starikov }

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Nov 2015 05:57

Aleppo attack continues to expand to south west
https://mobile.twitter.com/PetoLucem/st ... 72/photo/1

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Nov 2015 05:58

The Iranian version of deep battle concept

lessons for our t90 obsessed..it can be done with infantry also given time

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 06:06

Based on many related articles in russian media, my view is that Russians (supported by Hungarians) seem to have narrowed down on George Soros as prime conduit (for USGov?) facilitating the refugee crisis as well as attacks on Russian economy and Rouble. There may be an arrest warrant on his name in Russia/Hungary....will need to dig it out.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Nov 2015 06:24

The mess forum.

Regime forces with russians and iranians have realised that any advance with armoured vehicles was doomed to failure, as they are preys to theTOWs. This why they carry out pre-emptive shellings with 100s of shells and rockets on the towns and villages they want to advance towards, then they move as in infantery. Suhail Abu TOW, a TOW launcher, says that it has become difficult to reach the artillery and armoured as they are out of range. He denied reports that TOWs are forbidden in southern Aleppo rif battle.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Nov 2015 06:26

If rebels mass for counterattack open terrain means artillery and ruaf can pound them
Will likely fall back to idlib. Rumors of high value weapons being evacuated to turkey

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Nov 2015 06:31

Russian journalist in Syria compares conflict with Ukrainian one:
- This war is not so scary
- Syrians recognise on public they don't afraid to die, ignoring fortifications, ignoring personal safety.
- Poor artillery support
- Syrians prefer to act using small groups, never combine forces on most important directions
- Poor gear
- Very good food for soldiers
- Both sides have limited supplies

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Nov 2015 06:47

Trump calls BO's bluff:

Trump described traditional politicians as "stupid" and told the crowd that he is "competent." That's why he got so angry when journalists forced him to share his strategy for fighting the Islamic State, even though he wanted to keep such plans secret so as not to tip off the enemy, he said. Journalists, he said, are "scum" and "garbage."

"I know more about ISIS than the generals do," Trump said. "Believe me."

Trump said he would go after the oil fields in Iraq and Syria that he says nets the terrorist group "millions of dollars a week."

"I would bomb the s--- out of them," he said to raucous applause. "I would just bomb those suckers. And that's right: I'd blow up the pipes, I'd blow up the refineries. I would blow up every single inch. There would be nothing left."

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 07:04

<Bit of OT on US presidential elections>
In terms of body language and decisive blows after which generally the cuntenders will never recover is the clip I posted between Trump and Bush. Does not directly mean trump had made it but latter is surely finito. Trump simply imposed himself on Bush calling him to "hold it', "wait", and then simply took the floor.
Dubya was so adamant about this *exact* thing that he mentioned about it in his interview with examples of Dan Quayle, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, Ketchup guy etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWXRNySMW4s

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Nov 2015 07:42

use the global terrorism thread for paris attack related news.

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Murad Gazdiev ‏@MuradoRT 16 hrs16 hours ago Syria
Breaking: #ruaf intercepting militant comms; mass orders for jihadists in #latakia/west #syria to head for #aleppo

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Nov 2015 08:06

syrian army and allies will look to block al bab - khan tuman axis to block reinforcements while RuAF bombs rebel lines in Idlib and Latakia.

One reason for Iran IRGC creating exclusive syrian force of 50,000 was that Syrian army junior ranks were mostly sunni who were not obeying orders if IRGC field commanders. There were also reports of random execution on field of syrian troops by IRGC officers for disobeying or not complying. So they needed a more pliable soldiers in field. This is a factor aside from attrition in SAA etc.

here is a IRGC commander in idlib.

vijaykarthik · Post by **vijaykarthik** » 14 Nov 2015 08:21

I remember Qaseem Suleimani saying something to this effect: "Give me 10 Badrs brigaages / Shia militias and the situation will be far different". He was pretty critical of the SAA even about 15-18 months back.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 14 Nov 2015 09:34

T-90 in Syria and the Party ( Photos )

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1576223.html

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Nov 2015 09:43

bhadrakumar uvacha a few weeks ago ..
one of his saner moments
http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2 ... yrian-war/
Keep France at arm’s length from Syrian war

In this case too, France smells that the search for a political solution to the Syrian conflict is probably beginning and it wants to have a ‘say’ in it. It is in France’s DNA, except that what we see here is a slightly cruder version of the devious role France played during the negotiations over the Iran nuclear deal, when it took money from Saudi Arabia and began creating hurdles in the ‘P5+1 and Iran’ negotiations for as long as it could, but when the accord became a fait accompli, France simply crossed over to the Iranians to do ‘business’.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 10:41

What an waste of infrastructure of Syria:
US-led Coalition strikes ISIS oil plants in Syria (uploaded Nov 13, 2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn7IoXOCYag

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 10:49

< a bit of OT but I think no one here minds it

>
Russian-Indian anti-terrorist military training - Nov 13, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UORWiMkMSs

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 10:52

Close captures:
Syria War! Russian MI-24 attacking ISIS positions - Nov 13, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtwVMTvGmWk

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Nov 2015 11:28

The World is increasingly a global village even for Terrorism:

Here is what ISIS claims (twitter chatter):

https://twitter.com/RamiAlLolah/status/ ... 9053461504

Rami
‏@RamiAlLolah
#BreakingNews Pro #ISIS accounts speak of 12 Jihadis whom carried out #Paris attacks tonight.. #France

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 14 Nov 2015 11:43

deleted. Wrong thread.

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 14 Nov 2015 11:45

Oops. Posted in wrong thread. Cleaning up.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Nov 2015 12:23

The Kurdish - Yezidi - US attack on Sinjar continues further south. There have been further attacks on this front.

ÊzîdîPress
‏@EzidiPress
Unconfirmed reports, that ISIS emir of Baaj was killed. No further informations so far
#Shingal #Sinjar #FreeSinjar #Iraq #TwitterKurds

https://twitter.com/EzidiPress/status/6 ... 5367496704

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Nov 2015 12:35

north of sinjar is Mt Sinjar which is crawling with kurds and yezidis.
the highway east and west of sinjar has been blocked at multiple points by the same.
so the only way for the rats was to the south where baaj is one of the end of line towns before the desert begins - no towns, no roads, nothing for 200 km until the haditha dam way in the south.

there is no escape unless they manage to walk or hoof it across this desert

Baaj itself seems like a village around 500mx500m....and even for that ISIS had Emir

thats like a panchayat mukhia here

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Nov 2015 12:42

I was trying to figure out where did the recent 50 tons of Ammo dropped from US C17s go and I came across this article on the net. Interesting incestuous relationship between FSA- AL Nusra - ISIS. Easy portability of fighters from one group to another and alignment as the situation demands. The weapons flow freely too.

http://nstarzone.com/NEWS2/97.html

By Kurt Nimmo - Prisonplanet.com
U.S. officials confirmed on Monday the Obama administration has air dropped 112 pallets of ammunition to jihadist fighters in Syria. CNN reports:

C-17s, accompanied by fighter escort aircraft, dropped small arms ammunition and other items like hand grenades in Hasakah province in northern Syria to a coalition of rebels groups vetted by the US, known as the Syrian Arab Coalition.

The Syrian Arab Coalition consists of Jaysh al-Thuwar, Euphrates Volcano, Al Sanadid Forces, Brigade Groups of al Jazira and other groups said to be associated with the Free Syrian Army (FSA).

In July Jaysh al-Thuwar denied it had a relationship with Jamal Maarouf, the military chief of the Syria Revolutionaries Front and leader of the Syrian Martyrs’ Brigade, both part of the FSA.

Maarouf told The Independent last year the fight against al-Qaeda was “not our problem” and admitted the mercenaries he leads with U.S., Saudi and Qatari help conduct joint operations with Jabhat al-Nusra, the al-Qaeda spin-off that has joined forces with the Islamic State.

Maarouf also admitted passing weapons on to al-Nusra. He said if “the people who support us (U.S., Saudis, Qataris) tell us to send weapons to another group, we send them. They asked us a month ago to send weapons to Yabroud so we sent a lot of weapons there. When they asked us to do this, we do it.” Euphrates Volcano is at best a junior partner aligned with the Kurdish People’s Protection Units. Al Sanadid Forces of the Shammar tribe are also associated with the Kurds.
In September, 2014 a commander with the FSA admitted cooperating with ISIS and the al-Nusra Front. “We are collaborating with the Islamic State and the Nusra Front by attacking the Syrian Army’s gatherings in … Qalamoun,” Bassel Idriss said. “Let’s face it: The Nusra Front is the biggest power present right now in Qalamoun and we as FSA would collaborate on any mission they launch as long as it coincides with our values.”

In July of 2014 a report in Stars and Stripes documented how the 1,000 strong Dawud Brigade, which had previously fought alongside the FSA against al-Assad, had defected in its entirety to join ISIS. The same month factions within the FSA — including Ahl Al Athar and Ibin al-Qa’im — pledged services to the Islamic State. Members of the Islamic State claim to cooperate with the FSA and buy weapons provided by the U.S.

“We are buying weapons from the FSA. We bought 200 anti-aircraft missiles and Koncourse anti tank weapons,” ISIS member Abu Atheer told al-Jazeera. “We have good relations with our brothers in the FSA. For us, the infidels are those who cooperate with the West to fight Islam.”

In addition, in late 2013, a leader from the FSA’s Supreme Military Council announced he had defected to ISIS. “The Free Syrian Army and the Syrian National Council, the vaunted bulwarks of the moderate opposition, only really exist in hotel lobbies and the minds of Western diplomats,” writes Ben Reynolds.

Earlier this month Dmitry Peskov, Vladimir Putin’s spokesman, told Rossiya 1 TV “I don’t think anybody has yet explained what moderate opposition is, and Putin demonstrated quite active interest in the issue and asked in which way the moderate opposition was different from the immoderate opposition.”

Last October Vice President Joe Biden alluded to the truth about the so-called moderates fighting in Syria. Biden said U.S. “allies in the region” are “our largest problem in Syria.”

What were they doing? They were so determined to take down Assad, and essentially have a proxy Sunni-Shia war, what did they do? They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad – except that the people who were being supplied… were al-Nusra, and al-Qaeda, and the extremist elements of jihadis who were coming from other parts of the world.

Biden’s remark was portrayed in the West as another of his infamous gaffes.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Nov 2015 12:57

so the FSA seems like a rats nest of small groups, with some allied to or trading with the ISIS.
I think Rus is trying to wean away some of the middling groups with promise of not bombing them and a place in the final settlement.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 14 Nov 2015 12:59

A Visit to Russian Airbase in Syria

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Nov 2015 13:22

Singha wrote:so the FSA seems like a rats nest of small groups, with some allied to or trading with the ISIS.
I think Rus is trying to wean away some of the middling groups with promise of not bombing them and a place in the final settlement.

Not just that but the absolute blind eye that the US turning to this is mind numbing. It is impossible that US does not know this and therefore is not complicit in this arming of ISIS which publicly they are fighting against. They are also assisting Al Qaeda/ Al Nusra willingly.

For "Show and Tell" the world they bomb Syrian power centers and water facilities. Does the US have a clue on how to take their agenda (removing Assad) forward? On one side they put an incredible amount of leading edge resources in killing an individual - Jihadi John but on the other side they help arm the organisation/s which create or incubate such individuals.

The GOTUS is more messed up in its foreign policy than the Pakistani foreign ministry. CIA is learning from ISI. The snake that CIA cultivated in Pakistan has injected its venom very deep in the US government and if you ask me US has gone full Paki at least in Syria. Good Taliban - Bad Taliban = Moderate Terrorists - Bad / Extreme Terrorists

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 14 Nov 2015 17:04

The GOTUS is more messed up in its foreign policy than the Pakistani foreign ministry.

Let us not insult the patriotic, Faithful Pakistan Foreign Begging Ministry. They are focused: CashMore! CashMore!

US foreign Police-y is about 8 times more fo-cussed than the legendary British Indian Army Major who told the young Lt sitting next to him:

Boy! You have learn how to hold your liquor! See those 2 Generals standing with pointers at the two screens? When they begin to look like 4, you know you have had too much!

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Nov 2015 17:46

deejay wrote:For "Show and Tell" the world they bomb Syrian power centers and water facilities.

bombing power stations and water facilities is not for 'show and tell'. It is mainly for denying the oncoming invaders viz Syrian Army and allies access to the same facilities of water and power. This makes their hold on the area tenuous as they have to build supply lines for the same.

As long as ISIS was in complete control of the situation on ground, they did not think of bombing water, power stations or oil facilities. These are bas-turds of the highest order. Awwal darje ke ch****e harami.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Nov 2015 18:01

habal wrote:
deejay wrote:For "Show and Tell" the world they bomb Syrian power centers and water facilities.
bombing power stations and water facilities is not for 'show and tell'. It is mainly for denying the oncoming invaders viz Syrian Army and allies access to the same facilities of water and power. This makes their hold on the area tenuous as they have to build supply lines for the same.

As long as ISIS was in complete control of the situation on ground, they did not think of bombing water, power stations or oil facilities. These are bas-turds of the highest order. Awwal darje ke ch****e harami.

True, as far as their military objectives are concerned but they did announce those airstrikes as an achievement. Precision targeting with guided munition to deny a million people their share of water and electricity to fight against ISIS!

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Nov 2015 22:17

Ground view of Russian Bombing hitting an ISIS ammo dump

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 22:37

Comments after Saturday's Vienna talks - Nov 14, 2015
http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015111 ... lists.html

The elections in conflict torn-Syria are expected to be held within 18 months following the process of political transition, according to John Kerry.

"We agreed on the steps outlined in the 2012 Geneva communique to present a best path forward towards a Syrian-led political transition process within a target of 6 months. That will establish credible inclusive and nonsectarian government, will set a schedule and a process for drafting a new constitution. We also agree that free and fair elections will be held within 18 months," Kerry said.
Jordan was tasked with coordinating efforts to compile the blacklist of Syrian terrorist groups, according to Russia's Foreign Minister.

The sides participating in multilateral talks on Syrian settlement in Vienna confirmed that the country's future, as well as the future of President Bashar Assad must be decided by Syrian people, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Saturday.

"We confirmed that Syrian people will decide Syria's future. This also concerns the future of President Assad and the future of any other politician in the country," Lavrov said at a press conference.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 22:41

x-posting from 11/13 thread:

Satya_anveshi wrote: Did US screw itself by saying that they didn't know who was behind the attacks and US president even mentioning that it is premature to speculate when there were so many glaring signs of ISIS presence, motives, means, history, and what looks like intel of such impending attacks???

Now after Hollande publicly named ISIS to be the perpetrator, Kerry says "And while we are still gathering information, we have seen nothing that leads us to a different conclusion."

Chance of blaming Russia for this is gone and will come across as US not having intel on this and therefore no control.

Surely even if US/Israel push European partners to take more migrants/refugees to depopulate parts of Syria and Iraq (in hope of carving out subservient nations and/or outright annexation), why will european members oblige if these migrants are embedded with terrorists?

Even if European partners are roadrolled, their compensation terms for accommodating migrants has gone up big time and public sentiment they have to handle became complicated.

It has already started:

Poland Backs Away From Plan to Accommodate Migrants After Paris Attack

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Nov 2015 23:08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQpvA9_KxUo