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Singha wrote:Al-Masdar News ‏@TheArabSource
#Obama vetoes bill to let 9/11 families sue #Saudi Arabia https://aml.ink/AVfDP #US
That was expected any ways , Ties with Saudi is more important than any American life for any President .....the entire Oil is traded for US Dollah depends on Saudi and its munnas in OPEC
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Look at the Diplomatic Push US/EU is putting to stop bombing of Alleppo , Covert Action like hitting UN Supplies and constant front news on BBC/CNN on how every building destroyed has killed dozens of civilians , I am made to believe US does not want SAA to take over Alepo and is using every trick to delay it.

Next News would be of Chemical Attack on Alepo by Syrian or some injured child pics to show how bad things are there.
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British Foreign Secretary accused Russia of delaying the war in Syria - media

09.25.2016 13:16:08
London. On 25 September. Interfax -. Russia is guilty in prolonging the war in Syria may have committed war crimes by bombing a humanitarian convoy, said Sunday the head of the British Foreign Office, Boris Johnson

"Russia is guilty of delaying the war, making it even more terrible when it comes to cases such. as the bombing of a humanitarian convoy in Aleppo, we must understand that the purpose served innocent people. "- B. Johnson said in an interview with British TV and Radio BBC BBC

reported earlier that in the area of Aleppo was attacked a humanitarian convoy. According to the Syrian Arab Red Crescent, as a result of the shelling killed 20 civilians.

On the eve of the Russian Defense Ministry said that Russian aircraft in the attacking zone at the convoy was not.
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http://aranews.net/2016/09/turkey-backe ... ias-afrin/
Turkey-backed rebels attack Kurds in Syria’s Afrin
“If the international coalition won’t take any action to stop Turkey’s violations on the border, we will respond by force,” the Kurdish officer said.
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Austin wrote:Look at the Diplomatic Push US/EU is putting to stop bombing of Alleppo , Covert Action like hitting UN Supplies and constant front news on BBC/CNN on how every building destroyed has killed dozens of civilians , I am made to believe US does not want SAA to take over Alepo and is using every trick to delay it.

Next News would be of Chemical Attack on Alepo by Syrian or some injured child pics to show how bad things are there.
that is solely because Russia is giving out mixed signals and not going for the kill. I am afraid Russia has not shown the resolve of a Stalin or Napolean and gone for the kill, when push came to shove they blinked and threw the game away.

Russia doesn't seem to be interested in winning, they are just interested in dragging out proceedings. A very dodgy ally, if you ask me.
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One reason may be for the foot dragging is to wait for the US election result and have a settlement if Trump is elected and remove the russian sanctions.
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habal wrote:
Austin wrote:Look at the Diplomatic Push US/EU is putting to stop bombing of Alleppo , Covert Action like hitting UN Supplies and constant front news on BBC/CNN on how every building destroyed has killed dozens of civilians , I am made to believe US does not want SAA to take over Alepo and is using every trick to delay it.

Next News would be of Chemical Attack on Alepo by Syrian or some injured child pics to show how bad things are there.
that is solely because Russia is giving out mixed signals and not going for the kill. I am afraid Russia has not shown the resolve of a Stalin or Napolean and gone for the kill, when push came to shove they blinked and threw the game away.

Russia doesn't seem to be interested in winning, they are just interested in dragging out proceedings. A very dodgy ally, if you ask me.

There must be method to the madness, if Airpower would win an urban conflict then US would not be in Afghanistan for 15 years in anti terror opp or US airforce devoting 10 times aircraft would still fight IS in Iraq.

This conflict also shows the limitation of airpower and in any circumstances Russian airpower did not exceed total 50 aircraft !

In the end they have to fight every lane building road bunker in Syria against a very well armed state funded jihadi and all this minimising their own loss.

Russia/Syria/Iran knows complete victory is not possible even in years so they are taking as much of their land as possible and negotiate from strength.

Syria war will be solved on the negotiating table and not on battlefield
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Su25 with latest self defence suit spotted over latakia

So some have returned quietly

Eastern aleppo is being strongly attacked with help of russian strikes...no holds barred there
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snahata wrote:One reason may be for the foot dragging is to wait for the US election result and have a settlement if Trump is elected and remove the russian sanctions.
Sanctions won't be removed and I hope they don't ever !

Trump win won't make any difference , Foreign policy is dictated by Deep State in US not by Trump Obama or Hillary, Trump will say great things much like peacemaker Obama did but once you become potus you are hostage to pre decided FP
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the real reason behind the bombing of Jabal Tharda by USA & allies on behalf of ISIS.

Firstly once USA & it's esteemed allies bombed SAA on Jabal-tharda, by mistake in their own words, THEN WHY DID THEY NOT CORRECT THAT MISTAKE BY BOMBING ISIS THE NEXT HOUR OR THE NEXT DAY.

The loss of Jabal Tharda was not followed by a correction of the mistake. The US and coalition jets did not return the next day to bomb ISIS. The real message behind the attack – is the advance of the Iraqi forces toward Jazirat al-Anbar, Baghdadi and Jazirat Hit, coming closer to their next target in ‘Ana, Rawa, in order to reach al-Qaim on the Iraqi-Syrian borders. If the Iraqi forces reached the border, ISIS would be caught between the two fires of Iraq and the Syrian forces, allowing a possible breach from al-Qaem and Albu Kamal toward Deir-Ez-Zor. That would close any ISIS supply line from Iraq toward Raqqah, via Deir-ezzour and al-Badiyah.
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As Assad mentioned in interview to BBC , They were bombing SAA for 1 hour and when the Russian tried to get through coalition during that period they were not reachable. They certainly bombed SAA knowing their were there in numbers.

All they have to do is to say Sorry after bombing hospital or school or SAA or just blame on bad intelligence .........No War Crime cry there by BBC or CNN
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Austin wrote:As Assad mentioned in interview to BBC , They were bombing SAA for 1 hour and when the Russian tried to get through coalition during that period they were not reachable. They certainly bombed SAA knowing their were there in numbers.

All they have to do is to say Sorry after bombing hospital or school or SAA or just blame on bad intelligence .........No War Crime cry there by BBC or CNN
Obvious question the world is not asking, Why did they not correct that mistake by bombing ISIS the next day ?

none of the smart whizkids who routinely advise India on Pakistan, USA or caste, religion never even realized that ???

Decision makers believe, rightly or wrongly, that ISIS should overpower the Syrian Army and its allies in Deir-Ez-Zor, and take control of the city to prevent the Iraqis from supporting the Syrian regular forces and their allies. Moreover, if ISIS took control of Deir-Ez-Zor, the US and allies would attack ISIS, with the consent of the world, and would recover Deir-Ez-Zor and Raqqah afterwards, all this under the heading of “combatting Terrorism”. That would permit the partition of northern of Syria.

Russia meanwhile will not defeat ISIS by itself, but send 2 quick kalibr missiles to key locations as and when they see ISIS massing to surprise and irritate US and avoid informing it of it's objective and targets, which it must henceforth according to regulated airspace agreement.
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lmao UN negates Kerry.

Exclusive: The U.N. withdrew its claim that an airstrike hit its Syrian relief convoy but Secretary of State Kerry relied on the outdated claim in lashing out at Russia in a repeat of his earlier rushes to judgment, writes Robert Parry.

By Robert Parry

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/09/24/a ... -on-syria/

Secretary of State John Kerry has engaged in another rush to judgment blaming the Russians for an attack on a United Nations relief convoy in Syria before any thorough investigation could be conducted and thus prejudicing whatever might follow, as he did with the Syrian Sarin case in 2013 and the shoot-down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in 2014.

Eager to go on the propaganda offensive – especially after a U.S. military airstrike last Saturday killed scores of Syrian soldiers who were battling the Islamic State in eastern Syria – Kerry pounced on an initial report that the attack on the convoy on Monday was an airstrike and then insisted that the Russians must have been responsible because one of their jets was supposedly in the area.

But the United Nations – and I’m told CIA analysts – have not ruled out the possibility that the convoy was instead hit by a surface-to-surface missile. On Friday, a source briefed by U.S. intelligence said one fear is that the jihadist group, Ahrar al-Sham, which has fought alongside Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front but is deemed to be part of the “moderate” opposition, may have used a U.S.-supplied TOW missile in the attack. :rotfl:

Ahrar al-Sham, like some other jihadist groups seeking to overthrow the Syrian government, has objected to limited cease-fires arranged by the Russians and the Americans, which still allowed attacks on its ally, the recently rebranded Nusra Front. Ahrar al-Sham thus had a motive for destroying the aid convoy, an act which indeed has upended efforts to negotiate an end to the five-year-old conflict and led to bloody new attacks inside the embattled city of Aleppo on Friday.
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Good analysis on deir azzor. Its a roadblock in us plans for that area to be managed by new syrian army proxies...
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Literally Kutta Billi fight at UNC between Russia & US

Russia says no more unilateral concession

https://www.rt.com/news/360571-unsc-syr ... ng-russia/
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtNS4O6XgAA19TE.jpg

Sdf is making a move toward al bab from afrin side though not very powerful
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Isis claims to have fortified it like kursk
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West still arming Al-Nusra in Syria, peace almost impossible – Russia’s UN envoy

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Full UNSC meeting video

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ambassador powell has threatened and hinted that russia will be removed from the USNC if they do not agree to the demands of the western powers.

#PutinDhotiShiver
#BlowtoPutin
#BlowtoModi

russian ambassador has said no more tricks will be tolerated and no more unilateral moves for peace by russia-syria combine. aleppo jihadis will be hammered. tiger forces have gathered in north hama for a counter attack.

so they just got onboard with the game after giving away a few chances to the west. the deir azzor treachery was the last straw that broke the bears back.

aleppo being entirely recaptured by the Govt looks likely in a few months.

whats more interesting is the fate of the rather large Idlib-NorthHama Emirate which has not been under serious threat from any direction for a long time now. assad would surely want that back to cement his posture as ruler of 90% of syrian population and prime farm lands.
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They have been threatening to remove Russia from UNSC since Ukraine days but AFAIK no one can remove a UNSC member unless they choose itself to withdraw from it and more ever China would not support such move.

What is the Chinese Rep response to UNSC Alepo meet ?
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Al Jazeera debate on Aleppo

How critical is the city of Aleppo in Syria's war?

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/ins ... 00164.html
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china is playing all sides as usual - saying nice things like peace and aid delivery but also not saying anything about no fly zones or ceasefire ;)

so long as russia is prepared to use its veto, no UNSC resolution in favour of the rebels will pass.

the hammering of the jiahdis can continue I suppose. there is bound to be civilian casualties with 200k in rebel held areas not allowed to leave via safe corridors and used as human shields. not much different from fallujah and other cities in iraq when us army assaulted them.
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latest map. at the top is handarat camp which has changed hands back to rebels after liwa al quds took it - it was not feasible to fortify it enough in the time available against a counterattack...but it will change hands again i am sure after artillery is done pounding the rubble and any rats hiding under it

the saa is likely try to break this pocket into two in the middle by launching a move from both ends. problems are always easier to digest in bite sized pieces. the less hard core jihadis might be willing to get safe passage to Idlib w/family in return for leaving their weapons and freeing the human shields. but it would be massive loss of face for GCC so they will be urged to fight to the end..this process happened first in damascus and now in hama and homs. all the turds are being flushed up into Idlib for later management.


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they are also preparing for a offensive NE from sheikh najar industrial area toward Al-bab in secret support of the parallel YPG move in same direction from further north.

while the IS/Jihadis/Turkomans have many hives and fights to migrate to, its the real syrians and kurds who have to live forever together, so its better they reconcile and find ways to live in a federation.
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the bunker busters took out the rebel ammo dump that burned for days...

NYT

BEIRUT, Lebanon — Make life intolerable and death likely. Open an escape route, or offer a deal to those who leave or surrender. Let people trickle out. Kill whoever stays. Repeat until a deserted cityscape is yours.

It is a strategy that both the Syrian government and its Russian allies have long embraced to subdue Syrian rebels, largely by crushing the civilian populations that support them.

But in the past few days, as hopes for a revived cease-fire have disintegrated at the United Nations, the Syrians and Russians seem to be mobilizing to apply this kill-all-who-resist strategy to the most ambitious target yet: the rebel-held sections of the divided metropolis of Aleppo.

The killing and destruction in Syria, of course, has stupefied much of the world over the past five years. But it could pale in comparison with a military assault to retake all of Aleppo, once Syria’s largest city and still home to about two million people, roughly 250,000 of them in rebel-held territory.

A takeover battle could mean “a slow, grinding, street-by-street fight, over the course of months, if not years,” the United Nations special envoy for Syria, Staffan de Mistura, warned on Sunday, speaking at an emergency Security Council session on Syria, in which outright confrontation replaced any effort to find diplomatic common ground.

East Aleppo would be by far the biggest and most fortified area that government forces had sought to retake with scorched-earth tactics of siege and bombardment — called “starve-or-submit,” after slogans scrawled outside besieged areas by pro-government militiamen.

The tactics have succeeded in much smaller areas: in encircled suburbs of the capital, Damascus, and in rebel enclaves in the central city of Homs — first in the historic Old City and, most recently, last week, in the outlying neighborhood of Waer.

In the past few days, pro-government forces have signaled that they are escalating efforts to press the tactics to their conclusion in Aleppo, step by step. On Sunday, Syria’s United Nations ambassador punctuated the message, declaring that the government would reclaim all of the city.

First came new waves of airstrikes, Aleppo’s worst bombardment of the war. The bombings were so ferocious that the United States and Britain accused Russia of “barbarism” and “war crimes” for backing the Syrian air campaign.

More than 90 people died on Friday, and more than 100 on Saturday. At one hospital, nearly half of the 67 people treated for injuries were children. On Sunday, scores in the rebel-held districts were dead by evening.


But it was not just the volume of bombs that made the airstrikes devastating. They also hit, one by one, the systems that have kept life inching along.

Rescue workers in Aleppo reported that their cars and headquarters were among the first targets hit on Friday. The effect was instant: Now, when people are buried in rubble, no one comes. Or it takes longer for them to arrive. Relatives are again exhuming relatives with their hands.

Next, a much deadlier weapon than had been seen before was introduced: a heavy-duty ground-penetrating bomb, known as a bunker-buster. Turning whole buildings into craters yards deep, these bombs also threaten basement shelters and water pipes — not to mention the schools, clinics and even playgrounds built underground over the years to help minimize the damage of airstrikes.

As medical workers, rescuers and residents navigate the chaos, every now and then, on their phones, a text message pings, offering help. The texts, from the government, say that Russia is providing aid to people in the government-held side of the city, and is available to any who return to the bosom of the state.

The Syrian state news media broadcasts images of the night life on the other side of Aleppo, its lit skyline viewable from the darker rebel side. Those images play down the struggles of people on the government side, who have faced their own suffering with rebel shelling, water shortages and economic collapse.


Russia says it has opened safe corridors, and Syrian state television has reported that people have fled through them. Other residents say they have tried to approach the corridors, only to be shot at; each side blames the other for trapping people there.

Yet if other places are any indication, some people in East Aleppo may eventually take a deal at any cost. In Homs, in the Damascus suburb of Daraya and elsewhere, fighters and civilians have concluded that they are stuck in a war of attrition. They have agreed either to take their chances in government territory — seeking “regularization” of their status and the clearing of any criminal records, but risking rearrest — or to be bused to rebel-held territory, where they risk further bombing.

The groundwork for that kind of choice has been laid in eastern Aleppo.

Supplies of food and medicine are thin and intermittent. But in case anyone expected that the agreement between Russia and the United States on delivering aid would bring relief, a week ago a sustained, hourslong aerial attack was carried out on one of the first convoys of United Nations aid trucks permitted to travel under that agreement.

The United States has blamed Russia and the Syrian government, which have denied involvement.

At the emergency meeting of the Security Council on Sunday, Mr. de Mistura pleaded for diplomats to halt what he called “new heights of horror,” and asked for 48-hour pauses in the fighting for evacuations and humanitarian relief. But what followed was vitriol.

Russia remained unbowed and its Western rivals challenged it more aggressively, erasing most of whatever hope remained for diplomatic progress.


The Russian side blamed the United States and its allies for unleashing terrorist groups across the Middle East, and even extolled the Syrian government’s behavior.

Vitaly I. Churkin, the Russian ambassador to the United Nations, complimented the government of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, asserting that it had shown “enviable restraint.”

The Council meeting came after months of diplomacy by the United States and Russia collapsed on the sidelines of the General Assembly conclave last week after the convoy assault.

Efforts to revive a temporary cessation of hostilities failed, and frustration intensified among American allies that the closed-door negotiations between Washington and Moscow had yielded no relief.

Mr. Churkin accused the Americans of having no influence over the rebel groups they backed, and repeated his government’s contention that no cease-fire was possible until all opposition groups distanced themselves from the Nusra Front, the extremist group that now calls itself the Levant Conquest Front and that both Russia and the United States consider a terrorist organization.

The American ambassador, Samantha Power, took sharp digs at Mr. Churkin even before he began speaking, saying Russia had tried to blame everyone else and refused to account for its actions.

She said “it was not unreasonable to think” that the Russian and Syrian militaries had loaded incendiary bombs aboard warplanes bound for Aleppo even as Russian diplomats at the United Nations talked last week of making peace.

“Instead of pursuing peace, Russia and Assad make war,” she said. “Instead of helping get lifesaving aid to civilians, Russia and Assad are bombing the humanitarian convoys, hospitals, and first responders who are trying desperately to keep people alive.”

“What Russia is sponsoring and doing is not counterterrorism,” she said. “It is barbarism.”

When Bashar al-Jaafari, the Syrian ambassador, began speaking, Ms. Power left the chamber, along with her counterparts from Britain and France, according to diplomats. The British envoy, Matthew Rycroft, accused Russia of “partnering with the Syrian regime to carry out war crimes.”

Mr. de Mistura said the government was carrying out countless airstrikes on residential buildings and other civilian infrastructure in rebel-held parts of Aleppo — a potential war crime.

He refused to quit, saying it “would be a signal that the international community is abandoning the Syrians.”

Anne Barnard reported from Beirut, and Somini Sengupta from New York. Reporting was contributed by Maher Samaan from Paris, Hwaida Saad from Beirut, Karam Shoumali from Istanbul and Rick Gladstone from New York.
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Singha wrote:china is playing all sides as usual - saying nice things like peace and aid delivery but also not saying anything about no fly zones or ceasefire ;)

so long as russia is prepared to use its veto, no UNSC resolution in favour of the rebels will pass.

the hammering of the jiahdis can continue I suppose. there is bound to be civilian casualties with 200k in rebel held areas not allowed to leave via safe corridors and used as human shields. not much different from fallujah and other cities in iraq when us army assaulted them.
To be fair China has vetoed all the anti-Syria resolution with Russia and has voted for where both Russia/China supported Syria resolution at UNSC

I dont think China will support a NFZ if it comes to vote.

I think China and Russia co-ordinate the stand if any critical resolution comes which has international ramification so that US/NATO is not given a free hand under guise of UNSC resolution post the Libya UNSC fiasco where IIRC both abstained and US/NATO misused the resolution leading to capture and killing of Gaddafi which was not part of UN mandate.

The next interesting resolution would be the North Korea voting for Nuke test which would be interesting because neither Russia or China support any additional sanction on NoKo
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Western hypocrisy is simply hilarious.The Brit envoy walking out in protest at the UNSC.Britain has 'walked out of the "EU",habits die hard! On a more sober note,the UK parliament has held the Moron-of-Cam responsible for the Libyan fiasco,and its decade long track record of war crimes in Iraq,etc., make its accusations against the Russians and Syrians,the legit govt. in Syria look specious and duplcitous,smacking of crass chincanery.

The Russian and Syrians must ramp up their mil efforts and the "our way (to peace and safety) or the highway" is the right approach. Syrian civilians must choose whom they support and bear the consequences too. Thus far they've been on life-support from the US and its cronies.Why they can't/don't want to leave Aleppo o safety under such appalling conditions is the answer.The US is bankrolling the so-called resistance comprising mercenaries and western spl forces who must be taking a pounding!
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24 syrians wishing to leave the rebel held aleppo were reported to be executed last week as a example to others who dare.
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one cannot rule out a false flag attack by the rebels to sway world opinion. kill some 300 civilians in a massacre , pin the blame on pro-govt militias and sit back to enjoy the show.

the UN aid convoy show did not go as expected though, next time they will up the stakes.
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Singha wrote:one cannot rule out a false flag attack by the rebels to sway world opinion. kill some 300 civilians in a massacre , pin the blame on pro-govt militias and sit back to enjoy the show.

the UN aid convoy show did not go as expected though, next time they will up the stakes.
Already flagged by UN Syrian Envoy yesterday , hey but sure Syria/Russia would be blamed by West in Text Book Precision

Ahrar Al-Sham plans to launch chemical attack on civilians, blame it on Syria govt – Syrian UN envoy

https://www.rt.com/news/360590-ahrar-sh ... ack-syria/
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Singha , Habal found discussion on themess ( ex militaryphotos ) quite interesting , even Western Posters have interesting comment

http://themess.net/forum/military-discu ... r/page1520
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Lavrov says West fails to meet its commitments on Syria

http://tass.com/politics/902187
"The Syrian government and we were accused of all sins and all answers regarding the accusations were given," Lavrov said.

"We can only guess why it was necessary to convene the urgent meeting during the weekend," Lavrov said. "I think it is not difficult to guess. It is evident that the West led by the US does not cope with its obligations."

The minister stressed that the meeting was needed "to distract the attention from the bombing near Deir ez-Zor."

"I’m not in the mood of finding faults with somebody," he stated. "But we know too well how the leading world mass media, such as the CNN and the BBC can juggle with facts. Just recall the way they covered the situation in Iraq several years ago, and what they have been saying about the current events in Syria today. Of course, we will demand the most thorough investigation."


We demanded an investigation, while John Kerry, a good partner of mine stated all of a sudden (which was very uncommon of him) that an investigation might be conducted, of course, but he everybody else knew who had done that - either the Syrian army or Russia, but in any case Russia was to blame."

"Apparently he was under very strong pressure. He is under the harshest criticism from the US military machine," Lavrov said. "And although US Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama, as I’ve been told all the way, has maintained interaction with Russia, which he confirmed that himself at a meeting with Vladimir Putin in China, it looks like the US military does not eagerly obey the commander-in-chief."


"US Secretary of State John Kerry keeps saying that Jabhat Al-Nusra poses the same terrorist threat as the Islamic State (both outlawed in Russia)," Lavrov said. "But Nusra remains untouchable. This is a paradox. I don’t know whom I can trust. That I cannot trust them (the United States) one hundred percent is for certain."

"It is a vicious circle. Each time Russia or Syrian planes hit Nusra positions, they make a fuss, claiming that we’ve hit the patriotic opposition again thereby pushing it into Nusra’s embrace," Lavrov said.

UN caters to interests of Syria’s Riyadh opposition

"We are being told: if there is stable truce in the whole territory of Syria, if it lasts, and if all obstructions to the delivery of humanitarian aid are lifted, then the political process will begin," Lavrov said. "The so-called Supreme Commission for Negotiations (SCN, Riyadh group of the opposition - TASS) has inconspicuously torpedoed intra-Syrian talks since May."

"Sadly, the special envoy of the UN Secretary-General for Syria, Staffan de Mistura, caters to their interests and points to us and to the Americans," he said.
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Most effective types of bombs that Russia uses in Syria Now

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Sputnik news

15:19 26.09.2016
(updated 17:33 26.09.2016)
The Syrian intelligence possesses an audio recording of conversation between Daesh terrorists and US military prior to the Washington-led coalition's airstrikes on the government troops near Deir ez-Zor on September 17, the speaker of the People's Council of Syria said Monday.
"The Syrian Army intercepted a conversation between the Americans and Daesh before the air raid on Deir ez-Zor", Hadiya Khalaf Abbas said as quoted by the Al Mayadeen broadcaster.

US warplanes hit Syrian government troops near the eastern city of Deir ez-Zor on September 17, leaving 62 military personnel killed and a hundred wounded. The Pentagon said initially that the airstrike was a mistake and targeted Daesh militants.

The head of the Syrian parliament, added during her visit to Iran that after the coalition's airstrikes on the government troops US military directed terrorists' attack on the Syrian army.
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A faction of the gotus has gone feral over the potus kerry combine and this faction includes the 3 letter agencies and socom it is alleged. Socom is trying to carve its own deep state identity and break pentagon oversight
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Al masdar...with euphrates shield reduced to a cowering farce, both ypg+jaish al thuwar and saa are moving in...

Al masdar

ALEPPO, SYRIA (5:05 P.M.) - The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has mobilized several thousand soldiers in the east Aleppo countryside, as they prepare to attack the Islamic State's defenses near the Kuweires Military Airport.

According to a military source at the Kuweires Military Airport, the east Aleppo offensive will be led by the Syrian Arab Army's "Tiger Forces" and their commander Colonel Suheil Al-Hassan.

The primary objective of this Syrian Arab Army offensive will be to liberate the Al-Safira Plains and build a buffer-zone around the eastern flank of the Sheikh Najjar Industrial District.


In addition to building a buffer-zone around the Sheikh Najjar Industrial District, the Tiger Forces will also push north towards Al-Bab, which is currently the target for both the Turkish-backed rebels and US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces.

Interesting enough, the Syrian Democratic Forces made their first advance towards Al-Bab after liberating 2 villages within 20km of the city.
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Todenhöfer: Interview With Al-Nusra Commander "The Americans stand on our side" :roll:

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/to ... -side.html

It was the seventh trip by my son Frederic and me to the civil war country Syria. We were there for 13 days. Words can only barely describe the extend of damage and suffering on both sides.

We conducted the interview ten days ago with a commander of the al-Qaida branch "Jabhat al-Nusra". Abu al-Ezz reported quite openly about his financiers Saudi-Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait. We were able to exactly research the identity of the man and know practically everything about him.

[...]

Abu al-Ezz, commander, says about Jabhat al-Nusra (al-Qaeda): "We are one part of al-Qaeda. Our principles are: Fighting vice, pureness and security. Our affairs and our way have changed. Israel, for example, is now supporting us, because Israel is at war with Syria and with Hizbullah.

[...]

Jürgen Todenhöfer: How is the relation between you and the United States? Does the U.S. support the rebels?

Abu al-Ezz: Yes, the U.S. support the opposition, but not directly. They support the countries which support us. But we are not yet satisfied with this support. They should support us with highly developed weapons. We have won battles thanks to the "TOW" missiles. We reached a balance with the regime through these missiles. We received the tanks from Libya through Turkey. Also the "BMs" - multiple rocket launchers. The regime excels us only with their fighter jets, missiles and missile launchers. We captured a share of its missile launchers and a large share came from abroad. But it is through the American "TOW" that we have the situation in some regions under control.

To whom did the U.S. hand those missiles before they were brought to you? Were those missiles first given to the Free Syrian Army by the U.S. and from there to you?

No, the missiles were give directly to us. They were delivered to a certain group. When the "road" was closed and we were besieged we had officers here from Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and the United States.

What did those officers do?

Experts! Experts for the use of satellites, missiles, reconnaissance work, thermal surveillance cameras ...

Were there also American experts?

Yes, experts from several countries.

Including Americans?

Yes. The Americans are on our side, but not as it should be. For example we were told: We must capture and conquer "Battalion 47". Saudi Arabia gave us 500 million Syrian pounds. For taking the "al-Muslimiya" infantry school years ago we received from Kuwait 1.5 million Kuwaiti dinar and from Saudi Arabia 5 million U.S. dollars.

From the governments or from private persons?

From the governments.
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Syria claims to have recording conversation between IS and USAF/NATO before and after the air strike at Jabal Tharda

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-2 ... ke-syrian-

the communication was most likely in code and it was more like we are finished with bombing so move in, because IS started their assault 5 minutes after the planes stopped their runs just when they got painted by an S300. Any time for the SAA to regroup would have meant IS would not have been able to storm the fortifications so they had to act fast. This was most likely relayed through the NATO bunker that Russia destroyed by using cruise missiles. Which Russia now says was an accident.. I am sure it was the Russians who intercepted the communications and not the Syrians. Russia had a very recently upgraded air space monitoring with awacs asset in the air over Syria.
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