Terroristan - March 31, 2022

[Aditya_V]

UAE refused to give money to Bhikhari in chief Munir.

So now chhota Sharif has gone to the UAE with some new bahaana.

Within two days.

They have thrown all ghairat to the dogs now.

As per Dawn, UAE has agreed to roll over USD 2 Billion and give additional 1 Billion

[Manish_P]

UAE refused to give money to Bhikhari in chief Munir.

So now chhota Sharif has gone to the UAE with some new bahaana.

Within two days.

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Sir, the uniformed guy goes first and fixes the deal. He then sends the figurehead for the just the signature part. Optics onlee

This way the fauj can never be held responsible for the terms and leave the politicians to take the blame...

[RCase]

Ji, nobody airlifts scrap metal.

Lisa ji, I too was wondering how come scrap metal was being transported by air and probably on a commercial flight. (No mention of Cargo plane). Perhaps, it could be the crappy manufactured export maal from Pakistan that the Britshits mistook for scrap!

Wait till you hear all the Paki TV anchors going ...

'Pakistan too is a victim of contaminated scrap metal dumping by the West. The world needs to compensate Pakistan for dealing with contaminated scrap metal'.

[vimal]

UAE refused to give money to Bhikhari in chief Munir.

So now chhota Sharif has gone to the UAE with some new bahaana.

Within two days.

They have thrown all ghairat to the dogs now.

As per Dawn, UAE has agreed to roll over USD 2 Billion and give additional 1 Billion

1 billion is the same that pakis paid back in Dec 2022. So its just creative accounting. Its all in the Paki Economic Stress dhaga

[Manish_P]

Creative hawabaazi here as well.... Like the gold reserves, a huge percentage of the collected funds would already have flown out (Bajwa would have moved his cut out during his extension)

Yawn - Dam fund at Rs 16.35 bn, work ‘hit by floods’

The Supreme Court was infor­med on Thursday that various factors, including recent floods and Covid-19, delayed the construction of the Mohmand and Diamer-Bhasha dams for at least nine months to a year.

Headed by Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Umar Ata Bandial, a five-judge bench was told that the dam fund created in 2018 by then chief justice Saqib Nisar has increased to Rs 16.35 billion — this value will increase to Rs 16.98 billion in a few months when the funds deposited in the State of Bank of Pakistan’s (SBP) investment schemes get matured.

A representative of the National Bank of Pakistan (NBP) — a financial agent for the utilisation of the funds — also assured the apex court from Karachi that not a single penny had ever been taken out of the amount deposited against the government securities or used to meet any expense from this head. The CJP reminded the auditor general that one of his representatives had told parliament that he did not have any access to information about the funds. “Now since the access is available, please do (audit) it quickly,” CJP observed.

[Anujan]

So in PakJab Dimran's party has won a no confidence vote. They are now forcing an election to defeat Badmash to show him that Badmash does not have support of Mango Abduls

This is likely to work because Badmash is being blamed for Pakistan's Dekhonomoney getting into Pakistan. This article is at the same time

https://www.dawn.com/news/1731367/where ... went-wrong

PML-N’s ‘over reliance on the establishment and PPP’s Asif Ali Zardari’ appears to be one of the major factors for its failure to cause required defections in the PTI-PMLQ parliamentary parties

A couple of senior party leaders Dawn spoke to on Thursday were of the view that ‘over reliance on the establishment’ by the federal coalition was one of the major reasons in its failure to stop the chief minister from securing the trust vote.

the PML-N was looking up to the establishment to get the job done at the end of the day. But Thursday’s result showed miscalculations on the part of the party leaders with regard to the establishment

Federal Minister Javed Latif said the PML-N did not have ‘facilitators’ in the establishment to cause defections as the PTI did in 2018.

So the new big danda Munir and ISI chief is not with Badmash anymore?

[partha]

Hey All, weekly phoren office briefing just dropped. I am sure you were all waiting.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2395705/pa ... with-india

ISLAMABAD:
Pakistan on Friday said it would welcome facilitation by the United States to break the stalemate with India on the longstanding Kashmir dispute.

“Regarding the Pakistan–India relations and the facilitation by third parties, including the United States, Pakistan has always said that we would welcome the international community to play their role in promoting peace in the region including in facilitating dialogue and resolution of the core dispute between Pakistan and India i.e. the Jammu and Kashmir dispute,” Foreign Office Spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch told reporters at weekly briefing in Islamabad.

I hope someone in the Whitehouse who closely follows Pakistan's weekly briefing on its phoren policy brings this to Biden's attention. This is game changing for regional peace.

My suggestion to Pakistan is that in the next weekly briefing say Pakistan would welcome $10B donation from US.

[partha]

So in PakJab Dimran's party has won a no confidence vote. They are now forcing an election to defeat Badmash to show him that Badmash does not have support of Mango Abduls

This is likely to work because Badmash is being blamed for Pakistan's Dekhonomoney getting into Pakistan. This article is at the same time

https://www.dawn.com/news/1731367/where ... went-wrong

PML-N’s ‘over reliance on the establishment and PPP’s Asif Ali Zardari’ appears to be one of the major factors for its failure to cause required defections in the PTI-PMLQ parliamentary parties

A couple of senior party leaders Dawn spoke to on Thursday were of the view that ‘over reliance on the establishment’ by the federal coalition was one of the major reasons in its failure to stop the chief minister from securing the trust vote.

the PML-N was looking up to the establishment to get the job done at the end of the day. But Thursday’s result showed miscalculations on the part of the party leaders with regard to the establishment

Federal Minister Javed Latif said the PML-N did not have ‘facilitators’ in the establishment to cause defections as the PTI did in 2018.

So the new big danda Munir and ISI chief is not with Badmash anymore?

Pakistan's military is so brazen and open about its involvement in politics but Pakis expect the rest of the world to believe it's a democracy having vibrant media and independent judiciary.

Zardari is a wily operator. Gave the PM seat to PMLN knowing how bad the economy was making PMLN the owner of sure shot failure, made his son a foreign minister (his son's mistress conveniently MoS in foreign ministry) who is now into profile building by touring US think tanks and making connections with US establishment.

[SRajesh]

Parhtaji
is it more begging for trade to open and less to do with Cashmore(but more Cash)

[partha]

Parhtaji
is it more begging for trade to open and less to do with Cashmore(but more Cash)

Good point. Pakis may be pleading with US admin to tell India to reply to Miftah Ismail's tweet about Pakistan being open to trade sabji with India. Poor guy was complaining no Indian leader replied to his tweet as a result of which Pakistan is buying essential goods at a higher rate outside keeping the inflation high. Of course in the very next sentence he abused Modi/BJP/GoI.

Thank you Modiji for using tweet replies as one of the cost effective tools to handle Pakistan.

[sanjaykumar]

Yeah; from kaash!, Kashmir hota to kaash!, cash hota.

[CalvinH]

So in PakJab Dimran's party has won a no confidence vote. They are now forcing an election to defeat Badmash to show him that Badmash does not have support of Mango Abduls

This is likely to work because Badmash is being blamed for Pakistan's Dekhonomoney getting into Pakistan.

Mashallah!! Imran will be back in power in at least two states and center this year with full majority. Allah has answered prayers of all those who prayed for his return..

PMLN is screwed!

[hnair]

Anujan, much as I root for Al Kaptan and his wonderful band of ghazis, the PTI seem to be supported by the not-so-dominant faction of khaki and virulently opposed by the dominant faction. The dominant faction has a good thing going with pledges by idiots in west and gulf. So they will not let that go to waste by handing the billions over to Al Kaptani. Plus about dekhonimics impact, roti-kapada issues never mattered in paki elections because a ballot box in Pakistan was but a disguised shredding machine of “popular opinion”. Just rubber stamping of a military decision so as to provide a fig leaf for their western backers.

I do hope Kaptan and Jernail Faiz-up-Buttplugi faction does not give up. Also cheen is being super wimpy when it comes to supporting Kaptan

[Anujan]

The funny thing is PMLN people are openly saying in interviews that they cannot win national elections, if they do not rule Pakjab and "facilitate" victory in national elections. Apparently if PTI wins Pakjab, PTI will "facilitate" PTI's win in pakjab for national elections.

I support Kaptaan 400%. I wish he wins a resounding victory in Punjab and Balochistan. I want the talibs to break their shackles of slavery in Balochistan. Everytime I think of Kaptaan, I get emotional and so much scream comes out

{Anyone else heard Kaptaan's Kamasutra tape? :sharam: }

[chetak]

Hey All, weekly phoren office briefing just dropped. I am sure you were all waiting.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2395705/pa ... with-india

ISLAMABAD:
Pakistan on Friday said it would welcome facilitation by the United States to break the stalemate with India on the longstanding Kashmir dispute.

“Regarding the Pakistan–India relations and the facilitation by third parties, including the United States, Pakistan has always said that we would welcome the international community to play their role in promoting peace in the region including in facilitating dialogue and resolution of the core dispute between Pakistan and India i.e. the Jammu and Kashmir dispute,” Foreign Office Spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch told reporters at weekly briefing in Islamabad.

I hope someone in the Whitehouse who closely follows Pakistan's weekly briefing on its phoren policy brings this to Biden's attention. This is game changing for regional peace.

My suggestion to Pakistan is that in the next weekly briefing say Pakistan would welcome $10B donation from US.

the tribune report is pure propaganda poppycock. They are flagrantly signalling the Indian establishment to relent and help out

with such full blown financial disasters, political predicaments and social and food grain crisies that are manifesting routinely as riots on the streets plus security issues with the afghans crapping all over the durand line and the baloch acting up, the pakis are up the creek without a paddle


what the pakis are desperate about and what they really need is access to Indian wheat, rice, tomatoes, potatoes and all the other lovely winter veggies that are now so abundantly available in India and the gluttonous ghazis need lower prices and a benign Indian govt to help them reign in prices and also inflation

Their dead duck banks are unable to even open LCs to pay for anything

cashmere is the figleaf that the pakis are using while hoping and begging the amerikis to quietly push the Indians to agree to trade via the wagah border

with a wildfire raging in their moth eaten country, no one there has any time, inclination, or even the energy left for cashmere...

[hgupta]

I am inclined to give them the food provided that they provide safe passage for the Hindus living in Pakistan. They are going through a horrible time being persecuted, maimed, and killed. We need to rescue those hindus.

[vimal]

I mean if they withdraw from Cashmere thats that only outcome amenable to India. So that's that.

[chetak]

I am inclined to give them the food provided that they provide safe passage for the Hindus living in Pakistan. They are going through a horrible time being persecuted, maimed, and killed. We need to rescue those hindus.

cashmere is off the table, both for the pakis and for India

they need a BIF controlled GoI with a raincoat PM to to even think of putting it back on the table.. and pappu is fast receding in the rear view mirror


In the meantime, this is what the pakis are really after.....


Kafir atta - Rs39/kg

chakki fresh and riot free

better for the pakis if available via trade but best for the pakis if donated free by India

It will be taken as jizya, the birthright of every paki abdool and ayeesha

[RCase]

Not to be outdone by India organizing the Global South summit and ignoring Pakistan, it already beat India by kicking of its program, now dubbed as the 'Grovel South' to hear the voice of South Asia.

[partha]

I am inclined to give them the food provided that they provide safe passage for the Hindus living in Pakistan. They are going through a horrible time being persecuted, maimed, and killed. We need to rescue those hindus.

Safe passage for Hindus? That's like 10 people. They will happily arrange a bus.

[partha]

It's slowly dawning upon certain members of Paki elite that the gap between India and Pakistan has become so wide Pakistan will never be able to catch up or compete. The trigger for the article (my guess) seems to be India's G20 presidency
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2395510/on-india-1

On India
India is relevant to the world, not only in its size and girth but by its footprint and what matters to the world

Posting the full article.

If I were Henry Kissinger, I would write a treatise ‘On India’. Such has been the monumental change in India’s fortunes as a State and a player principally in Asia and broadly on the global stage. Modi may be a despised name in Pakistan, but he has done something to brand India which none before him was able to manage. Importantly, India does what it feels and to the extent she needs. And it all stays kosher. It is an ally of the US; a rub Pakistanis go to town with, complaining relentlessly about the US as its closet patron. We are delusionary and deceptive in assessing our standing and employ double-speak as an art, vilifying the US as a popular pastime while whingeing when it accosts India. Russia is under American sanctions, and none can trade freely with Russia except India which buys Russian oil on preferred terms and then re-export it to help an old patron earn dollars the indirect way. Two opposing military superpowers of the world claim India to be its ally. If this isn’t diplomatic coup, what is?

It all comes from one word — relevance. India is relevant to the world, not only in its size and girth but by its footprint and what matters to the world. Consider. It has the fifth largest economy in the world, ahead of the UK. It is aimed to be the third largest economy in the world by 2037. It is fourth in FE Reserves with over 600 billion USDs — Pakistan currently holds 4.5 only. Its growth rate in GDP matches the best performing economies over the last three decades after China. She is projected to stay on that path. India has world’s second largest army and the third largest military. It may not be the strongest corresponding to the numbers, but it is on path to rapidly increasing its capacity and capability. The global list of billionaires has 140 Indians of which four are included in the top 100.

Mittal is steel giant. Ambanis run multiple interests varying from defence to telecom. Infosys, an IT giant, is a global name. So on and so forth. India stands amongst the top producers in agri-products and in the IT industry. Their yields per acre in agriculture match the best in the world. And despite being a country of over 1.4 billion people, it remains a relatively steady, coherent and functional polity. Their system of governance has withstood the test of time and proved its resilience around fundamentals essential to a resolute democracy. It may not be the most efficiently or most equitably run society, but it has held on to anchors which have paved the way for it to solidify what makes a nation. To many it may not be secular enough — its Constitution still is, even if attitudes of the power wielders are not. Under Modi it has crafted a religious-nationalist plank of its newer assertion and identity. Don’t balk. World over the trend is of the Right gaining eminence in social attitudes. Pakistan in this realm has its own set of challenges. Importantly, it seems to be working for Modi and India.

India jumped to a 100 billion USD reserves in 2004 from the measly 9.2 she had in 1992. Under Manmohan Singh, India increased her reserves to 252 billion USD by 2014. Under Modi these have galloped to over 600 billion and the GDP is sized over three trillion USDs. This is monumental progress which makes India a preferred destination for all investors. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan’s fraternal brother, announced an investment of over 72 billion USDs in India even as we beg her to invest the 7 billion promised for Pakistan. Pakistan’s iron-brother, China, pledged 10 million USD in the very latest donors conference in Geneva to help Pakistan out of its financial predicament as well as a looming bankruptcy, as did Pakistan’s favourite whipping boy, America. Somehow, both place equal premium on Pakistan’s prospects.

And though Indian writers have this propensity to overstate India’s heft and hem there should be no doubt that this century will see Asia defined by two most dominating nations in economic strength, military haughtiness and political impact — China and India. The gap between Pakistan and India is now unbridgeable. India has broken free of the shackles that kept her tied in South Asia and hyphenated in global perception with Pakistan. Beginning with Rajiv Gandhi to Modi there has been a clear distancing of the Indian foreign policy away from Pakistan. That turns India more Asia than just South Asia and a clout which is far expanded. The world has taken note and regardless how much we play China vs India as a sorry paradigm for face-saving both are now above 100 billion USDs trade that binds them with a common aim to quickly move to 500 billion. Those who trade at that level never graduate beyond sticks and clubs, even if spiked, and whatever the savagery of their brawl. It is time to smell some real leaves.

One hates to admit, but Pakistan was politically outmanoeuvred by India on Kashmir by rescinding Article 370 of its Constitution which gave a special if not disputed status to the region. Her gradual mutation of the demographics in her favour continues unabated. And as the older generation of the defying Kashmiris bows out the young view issues far less weighed by emotive persuasion. In combination with unmatched density of military presence over decades the new normal has practically established newer realities. And while Pakistan’s principled stance may just remain the same, work-around shall have to be found to factor in newer realities and graduate policy to benefit from this immense economic activity taking place in the neighbourhood. Placing artificial restraints on what can be a moment of deliverance to the rapidly impoverishing people of Pakistan is failing them with bankruptcy of thought. We are better only when stabler and economically buoyant. Time to shed the rhetoric.

India’s global footprint is remarkable. She is invited to the G7 and is a member of the G20. It is leading a movement of the global South to represent what is critical to equitable progress in the times of climate change, pandemics and technology intrusion. It has a blueprint of establishing her own domain on the foreign policy front and sticks to it assiduously. She may seem arrogant and haughty at times triggering aversion but feels she has the space to assert her presence. It is a fine line but her foreign policy apparatus treads it skillfully. Modi has brought India to the point where she has begun to cast a wider net of its influence and impact. Pakistan has been skillfully reduced to a footnote in this Indian script. It is time to smell some real leaves.

It is time to recalibrate our policy towards India and be bold enough to create a tri-nation consensus, along with China, focusing on Asia to be the spur for wider economic growth and benefit. That alone will turn geoeconomics into a strategy. Breaking away from convention and boldness in conception can address this newer paradigm. Or we may be reduced to the footnote of history.

As the gap widens further there will be no option for Pakistan other than integrate with Indian economy.

[hgupta]

I am inclined to give them the food provided that they provide safe passage for the Hindus living in Pakistan. They are going through a horrible time being persecuted, maimed, and killed. We need to rescue those hindus.

Safe passage for Hindus? That's like 10 people. They will happily arrange a bus.

No there are about 4 million hindus left in Pakistan.

[Neela]

There was a time when Kashmir was in the minds of every Paki. Every politician used it as a war cry during rallies.
During a cricket match hosted in Pak in 1990s between INdia-pak, there were even hoardings in the stadium which read "Indian dogs quit Kashmir" .
These guys were baring their fangs, and steered an exodus of a community. It appeared to be only a matter of time. It all looked very bleak for almost 3 decades.
But then, Pakis are a bunch of mental retards - almost half evolved animals with an irrational aggresive trait. Right from the beginning , none had any mental capacity to steer a stiched up country. As they failed in every metric used to measure progress, Kashmir started to fade away. Now they have existential issues to worry about.

When you are fighting for wheat and slug it out over sewage drains , reading about how Pakis are coming back from retirement to foot daily bills, a father of six being killed in a stampede during essential food distribution, when armed guards protect wheat deliveries, and with the situation going to get pretty pretty nasty - you wont be able to think of Kashmir with the limited nutrition you get.
As industries collapse , the food crisis should affect at least 99% of the population. Textiles, which was the only meaningful export , is also gearing up to die since raw material to produce isnt coming . External debt stands at $126B and foreign stimulus of even $1B is hard to come by.

we will pretty soon see parched, famished, skeletons on the streets....pictures like the Ethiopian famine of the 1980s. It is coming. Vultures would hang around, like the one you saw after the Kolkota riots in Aug, 1946. , and begin their feast on a not-yet-dead corpse. I want to see that happening. I wont be surprised if Pakis resort to cannibalism. Maybe I will smile a bit when I see that.

It will reach a stage when the folk are half dead, lying on the streets, a gust of dusty wind sweeps through in the hot sun, and the words "Kashmir" doesnt even register in the brains as it has already prepared for its wretched existence to end. The country would have fragmented by then, and the poeple will have to fend for themselves. It isnt for no reason that Pak is now ranked with Somalia on few parameters. Only a matter of time. Only a matter of time for us to see this. The world conscience would of course be stricken but there wouldnt be any org in Pak that would have the capability to handle any aid that would come. Riots, factions and a Mogadishu style armed gangs controlling streets with guns....it isnt far away. I hope to see that soon. I do hope that the entire genetic lineage of Sikandar Butshikan is wiped out . And maybe , with divine blessings, a million Hindu families get to see their Kula Devi, Sharadamba, in her brand new temple.

[Aditya_V]

Remember Pakis have used every possible trick to wipe us from the face of the Earth, if we did not have redumentary nukes in 1990, they would have nuked us. The greatest scourge since Mahmoud Ghazni and Ghori in India, has been mercy to the undeserving.

[RCase]

It's slowly dawning upon certain members of Paki elite that the gap between India and Pakistan has become so wide Pakistan will never be able to catch up or compete. The trigger for the article (my guess) seems to be India's G20 presidency
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2395510/on-india-1

As the gap widens further there will be no option for Pakistan other than integrate with Indian economy.

I don't think we should let them integrate with the Indian economy. They are a drag force that will only diminish India's growth. Giving them the breathing room to recover will embolden them to fight another day. Time to tighten the noose.
I wish Modi will show no mercy (no Prithviraj syndrome) and be able to deliver a decisive blow to balkanize and defang Pakistan. The opportunity was missed by Indira Gandhi in 71.

[Manish_P]

..

In the meantime, this is what the pakis are really after.....

Kafir atta - Rs39/kg

better for the pakis if available via trade but best for the pakis if donated free by India

It will be taken as jizya, the birthright of every paki abdool and ayesha

Chetak ji, not only will they expect it free they will also charge us to make it halal compliant.

[yensoy]

Safe passage for Hindus? That's like 10 people. They will happily arrange a bus.

No there are about 4 million hindus left in Pakistan.

The better use would be to kick out around 1M of pak-pasand undesirables from India. The rest will fall in place.

[ricky_v]

here now lads, all is well

https://www.radio.gov.pk/13-01-2023/min ... in-country

Minister for National Food Security, Tariq Bashir Cheema has dispelled the impression that there is any dearth of wheat in the country and termed propaganda against its shortage as baseless.

Addressing a news conference in Islamabad on Friday, he said the Federal government has imported wheat costing two billion rupees despite financial constraints to meet its requirement in the country.

The Minister said provinces have also sufficient wheat stocks, but they are not releasing it due to which the prices have increased.

https://www.radio.gov.pk/13-01-2023/pak ... ault-ahsan

Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal says Pakistan’s economy stands on strong foundations and it would come out of economic crisis very soon.

Talking to BBC, he said despite economic challenges Pakistan will not default in any case.

i am inclined to believe the two gentlemen, they have an honest look about them; to recap:
1) pakistan has enough wheat available in the country

2) pakistan will stabilise in 2-3 years

i would thus say that no bhiksha from India is required, no food, wheat, medicine, raw material for textiles, water, short-term, long-term, eternal loans, ityadi, ityadi.

The net woven around them has been spectacular, since the past 3-4 years, India has really gone to town with the factual reality of pakistan: state-sponsor of terrorism, every multilateral meet has the inclusion of the words terrorism (as an aside, I strongly believe that the trucks / guns of peace in europe have dwindled due to particular tightening of the net with the input of Indian apparatus); they have been goaded on multiple occasions and the Bhutto scion recently took the bait calling the PM names at the UNGA; I believe that goi will keep the fire lit, pakis cannot accept help or openly trade with those who call them out with regularity, it is a matter of H&D after all, though every paki learns deceit, lies and crocodile tears at his ayesha's teat, the softies and candle marchers on our side are kept in check with constant feed and sob stories of paki civilian and military uncivility and meanness, except the usual suspects, so I believe the hearts would bleed only once cannibalism videos start surfacing, not before then.

[madhu]

Hey All, weekly phoren office briefing just dropped. I am sure you were all waiting.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2395705/pa ... with-india

this and also recent statements about 2021 7day visit of modi to pakistan where they were about to sign a treaty that we need to keep Kashmir for 20 yrs in deep freeze and normalize the border is simply following their prophet Mohammad's sunnah. Remember even Mohammad struck a deal of 10 yr peace with Jews of Mecca when he was week. but when he gathered strength he the peace deal brock within 3 yrs with a lame reason and destroyed full Mecca.
lets look at the reason why it wants peace for 20yrs
1) Pakistan will secure that India will not attack and conquer Kashmir in its weak time.
2) It can free its army on western border and start concentrate on its east
3) it can work on its economy and when it has strength resume Kashmir

i hope MAD do not fall for these stupid Pact of Al-Ḥudaybiyah.

[SRajesh]

Chetakji
The concern here is whether the Paki-pasand media/BIF/WAPO/NYT use NaMo's previous statements about:
Working together to alleviate poverty/prosperity etc etc
Will they force MAD and the boys to accept the hand of fiend-ship!!

[Shaktimaan]

i hope MAD do not fall for these stupid Pact of Al-Ḥudaybiyah.

Saar, I do not think this is possible as long as Modiji is in power. After all, MAD are the ones who pushed Pakis into this situation.

However if we do not win again in 2024 or 2029...then the Aman-ka-tamasha brigade may bail them out and all the good work from 2014 will come undone

[Tanaji]

Remember that so called “study” that ranked nations on a hunger index? Pakistan was above India on that one…

Those guys should be called out and shamed publicly

[chetak]

Remember that so called “study” that ranked nations on a hunger index? Pakistan was above India on that one…

Those guys should be called out and shamed publicly[

Tanaji saab,

what better way to rub their noses in than food riots on the paki streets

[Atmavik]

^^^ if any one is on Twitter tag Salvatore babones, he has done a take down of these fake rankings

Another example

https://twitter.com/sbabones/status/160 ... L8sM4sAAAA

[jash_p]

US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin discusses recent regional developments with new Pak Army chief

Paki COAS bags for IMF leniency and few more Billons from Uncle as gift.

[sanjaykumar]

That paktribune article only acknowledges India has gone from gazwa e hind to gazab e Hind.

It is only a summary of trends.

The question is how does India’s ascendence, soon to be transcendence, impact Pakistan’s meaning? Did its god fail? Do they need shariat as civil law? Do they need to take in the Pakistanis left behind in India, and subsequently, Bangladesh? Is that the curse?

The problem in Pakistan is not the army, vaderas, education, laziness. It is fundamental to the state and was present at its birth.

[chetak]

That paktribune article only acknowledges India has gone from gazwa e hind to gazab e Hind.

It is only a summary of trends.

The question is how does India’s ascendence, soon to be transcendence, impact Pakistan’s meaning? Did its god fail? Do they need shariat as civil law? Do they need to take in the Pakistanis left behind in India, and subsequently, Bangladesh? Is that the curse?

The problem in Pakistan is not the army, vaderas, education, laziness. It is fundamental to the state and was present at its birth.

sanjaykumar ji,

With the pakis and their cooked up and imagined mythical ayraab and moghul linked heritage and ancestery, it was always the ruler Vs the ruled which even today, they see as a "carved in stone" sort of perpetual, as also a permenantly immutable condition that attests to their superiority

That's how the pakjabi malsis treated the beedis and that is what the malsi invaders had been doing to India for centuries until the whiteman came and suplanted them.

their fantasy definition of "ruler" included the moghuls, the persians, the afghans the uzbeks or who ever else and finally and all these various blood streams finally morphed into the pakjabis and their definition of the ruled was always the SDREs like the Indians, the beedis and other kafirs but conspicuously it does not extend to or even include the cheeni and the whiteman.

That is why it hurts the pakjabis, the ottomani turkis, the gelfies and also the afghans etc all so much to see India and the beedis, both of whom are nothing more than inferior SDREs to them, pull away from their self created morass in economic and social terms.

But also note that these sharia snakes have steered very very clear of the cheeni who have put the fear of a communist god into them, even to the extent of callously sacrificing the uyghur malsis at the alter of xi.

Unlike the propaganda filled narrative that has been sold so successfully by the commies and the whiteman's press, the actual reality is that it was never India that was not reconciled to the creation of pukeland but the pukelanders who never accepted the creation of India and djinnah got himself a really bad bargain, a putrid, motheaten, and rancid hell hole that continues to fester even to this very day

[sanjaykumar]

I don’t know about the SDRE stuff. From what I have seen Pakistanis, panjabis and Sindhis, are plenty SDRE.

the present nasl (generation) of Indians who are economically better off are often taller than Europeans. Sikhs may be much taller than Americans. Further Pakistanis are often stunted.


And if you are into that sort of thing, India has millions of people who look more Mediterranean than SDRE. I just don’t get off on that perhaps because I live among real white men. A quraishi from pakistan or some hill tribal is not going to impress me.


The most telling difference between the two societies is that you don’t too often see fairer complexioned people in public life or television in India. And you never see the darkies in Pakistani public life, even though Pakistan is filled with them.

I personally find darker complexioned chiseled featured women as in Kerala among the most beautiful on the planet. I am not about to be honey trapped by some bimbo (in case the eye ess eye is reading this).

[chetak]

I don’t know about the SDRE stuff. From what I have seen Pakistanis, panjabis and Sindhis, are plenty SDRE.

the present nasl (generation) of Indians who are economically better off are often taller than Europeans. Sikhs may be much taller than Americans. Further Pakistanis are often stunted.


And if you are into that sort of thing, India has millions of people who look more Mediterranean than SDRE. I just don’t get off on that perhaps because I live among real white men. A quraishi from pakistan or some hill tribal is not going to impress me.


The most telling difference between the two societies is that you don’t too often see fairer complexioned people in public life or television in India. And you never see the darkies in Pakistani public life, even though Pakistan is filled with them.

I personally find darker complexioned chiseled featured women as in Kerala among the most beautiful on the planet. I am not about to be honey trapped by some bimbo (in case the eye ess eye is reading this).

sanjaykumar ji,


In all their befudled notions of their own genesis and incoherence of origin there is a strange singularility of distinctiveness that the pakis all stress and that is the weird techinality of not being Indian

They pride themselves in their percieved uniqueness of being the other, as though it somehow absolves them from acknowledging the undeniably fundamental fact and genetically proven naked truth that they are all unmistakably from the larger and common sub continental genetic pool

SDRE for the paki is more of a cultural construct, an exemplar used to differentiate, contrast, and individualize their malsi identity. This notion has been decisively knocked out of them over the course of three wars and even that figleaf has been stripped away and leaving them with a notorious, nationally shameful, and deeply demeaning reputation of global beggars.

and, that's got to hurt real bad.

[sanjaykumar]

Fundamentally east Pakistan was a race war. Pakistan lost these people exactly for the reasons you describe.

I admit I cannot often tell if these doodes are from the Indian subcontinent. They are not northerners, they are not southerners they are not Indian adivasis. They look like melanesians from the pacific if anything. Again not that there is anything wrong in that.