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Bringing this thread back up with the greatest piece of news while the forum was down:
GST Amendment passage the highlight of glorious monsoon parliament session
The contentious Constitution (122nd Amendment) (Goods and Services Tax) Bill was among the 14 Bills passed in a “glorious” Monsoon Session of Parliament that came to a close Friday.

While the Lok Sabha passed 15 Bills during the session, the Upper House passed 14.

“It was a glorious session,” exclaimed an elated Parliamentary Affairs Minister Ananth Kumar, otherwise known as a reticent politician. About the Constitution (122nd Amendment) Bill, which will pave the way for the new tax regime under the GST, Kumar said, “It is a historic tax reform. (Now) we have to take it forward.
Assam has already ratified GST. Bihar is aiming to be the second and Gujarat is rushing to beat Bihar. The GST is scheduled to come into force April 1 2017.
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Another regarding inflation targeting -

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Suraj - how much of an issue will the amendments be?
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if you are talking about GST, the constitutional amendments are already done. what's left is the passing of the GST bill setting the rates which is a regular bill/law passed by parliament and doesn't need special majority.
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Gus wrote:Suraj - how much of an issue will the amendments be?
The constitutional amendment is already passed by RS and LS. This is followed by states voting on a model GST amendment bill for states. Once half the states ratify it, it's a done deal. Already states are vying with each other to be the earliest to pass their own GST bills, so no more hurdles are envisioned.

A separate - money - bill, will define the GST rate. The Congress wanted assurances that this bill would not be a money bill (money bills can be passed by parliament with just an LS vote, regardless of whether RS agrees or not). However, GoI refused to make such a commitment, so the final rate will be defined in a money bill later. So there's pretty much nothing left but for at least 15 states to pass their GST bills. Already one (Assam) has done so and two more (Bihar and Guj) will do it any day now.
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Rahul M wrote:if you are talking about GST, the constitutional amendments are already done. what's left is the passing of the GST bill setting the rates which is a regular bill/law passed by parliament and doesn't need special majority.
Is there a possibility to pass the GST bill as Money Bill & bypass Rajya Sabha this time. If yes, then except for Congress hallowing, what are the drawbacks you think are, if any?
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The GST rate setting bill will be a money bill. GoI already refused Congress demands to provide assurances that it won't be a money bill , prior to the debate on the constitutional amendment bill. There are two separate bills here:
* Constitutional amendment bill. Requires LS and RS 2/3rds majority each: Done. This was the hardest part.
* At least half the states pass the model GST bill: In progress. Expected to proceed smoothly.
* GoI sets the GST rate via a money bill : To be handled later on the basis of prior center/state agreement.
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US Criticises PM Modi On Pace Of Reforms, Questions GDP Data
The report titled "Investment Climate Statements for 2016" also questioned India's 7.5 per cent growth rate. India's GDP data has been doubted by many economists, who have complained that the headline number does not reflect the economic sentiments on the ground.

"Ostensibly, India is one of the fastest growing countries in the world, but this depressed investor sentiment suggests the approximately 7.5 per cent growth rate may be overstated," said the report produced by the Bureau of Economic and Business Affairs of the State Department.
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Translation: "Why are you growing at 7.5% and not letting *US* have a shot at making more money out of it from you ?"
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US Department of State Investment Climate reports linked from this page:
http://www.state.gov/e/eb/rls/othr/ics/ ... /index.htm

The report for India:
http://www.state.gov/e/eb/rls/othr/ics/ ... 79#wrapper
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M_Joshi wrote:
Rahul M wrote:if you are talking about GST, the constitutional amendments are already done. what's left is the passing of the GST bill setting the rates which is a regular bill/law passed by parliament and doesn't need special majority.
Is there a possibility to pass the GST bill as Money Bill & bypass Rajya Sabha this time. If yes, then except for Congress hallowing, what are the drawbacks you think are, if any?
by any definition, a bill setting tax rates that goes into the consolidated fund of India is a money bill, opposition heartburn notwithstanding.
practically there isn't much they can do to stop its passage.

if the govt absolutely feels to give some concession to the opposition it might table the bill as a type 1 finance bill which is a mix of money bill & non-money bill with the money bill part still subject to the usual regulations restricting rajya sabha's power. however I dont really see the govt doing this.
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Interesting:

With minuscule IIP weightage, rubber cables pull down growth numbers
An item with a mere 0.12 weightage on the Index of Industrial Production (IIP) has been playing havoc with factory data for years, distorting the real picture every month. This is the curious case of insulated rubber cables, used in a number of industries, mostly for electricity distribution.

The Reserve Bank of India discovered the gremlin in the works in its latest monetary policy review. "The uneven performance of industrial output reflects the lumpy and order-driven contraction of insulated rubber cable, a component of capital goods. Excluding this item, industrial production rose at 3% in the current financial year. In fact, capital goods production excluding insulated rubber cables expanded by 8%," the central bank said.
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Urjit Patel new RBI Governor per Twitter
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Urjit Patel to take over from Raghuram Rajan as RBI Governor
MUMBAI/NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi appointed Urjit Patel as the 24th governor of the Reserve Bank of India ending months of speculation about the successor to the high profile Raghuram Rajan, signaling that prudent monetary policy will continue to be the norm calming investors.

Patel, the 52-year old deputy governor, will have a three year term beginning September like Rajan, and the government said that the for the first time a `systematic approach and an objective mechanism' was put in place for the appointment of the governor.

"The appointments committee of the cabinet (ACC) has approved the appointment of Dr Urjit R Patel as Governor, Reserve Bank of India (RBI) for a period of three years w.e.f. from 04.9.2016," the government said in a statement
Not sure if this is a good move. Urijit Patel will follow Raghuram Rajan's tight money policies.
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Urjit Patel named RBI governor, Dalal Street not too bullish on rate cuts now
Patel's appointment is a sign of continuity of policy for RBI and the government's focus of reigning in inflation.

Patel is known as an inflation hawk and, along with Dr Rajan, he championed inflation targeting in India. He was chairman of the committee that decided the 4 per cent (-/+2 per cent) inflation target, which was ratified by the government earlier this month.

It is also a stamp of approval for Rajan's work on inflation and bringing stability to the currency market. It is a move to appease foreign investors who after the resignation of Rajan were concerned about the direction of monetary policy in the country.

"He is generally perceived as more hawkish. As chairman of the Urjit Patel Committee, he recommended moving to a CPI inflation target of 4 per cent +/-2 per cent and towards positive real interest rates," said Sonal Verma, Managing Director and Chief India Economist at Nomura.

Will that mean fewer interest rate cuts in the future? Not necessarily. Most likely by the next policy meeting, RBI will have a Monetary Policy Committee in place, which will include three members from RBI and three government appointees. Any policy decision will entail voting and the majority decision prevail.
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Wish the new governor well. Since, I do not support the move to have the government a direct say in the setting of interest rates, with only a veto of the Governor. Mr. Patel seems to have headed the group that set this panel in action. Preferring the relative independence of the RBI on monetary policy, this selection generates skepticism. Anyways, wish him well and hope he will do what he thinks is right for Indian policy, even if he has to go against the government.
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Interest rate setting is no longer in the RBI governor's hands but is now done by committee. Further, elevating the deputy governor indicates a focus on continuity and procedural formality. The financial press is still too fixed on personalities rather than institutional frameworks. This selection, to me, is all about having a smoothly functional framework in place, not about the person as such. I don't think the markets will care and this is at best a 24-48hr new story.
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Urjit Patel literally wrote the book on the new monetary policy framework, including CPI targeting & the setting rates by committee. (google urjit patel committee). this is another move towards institution building.
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Rahul M wrote:Urjit Patel literally wrote the book on the new monetary policy framework, including CPI targeting & the setting rates by committee. (google urjit patel committee). this is another move towards institution building.
there won't be even a ripple when the baton is handed off from rajan to patel.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-state ... SKCN10V07P

India's SBI says will gain $120 billion in assets from takeover of units
State Bank of India (SBI) (SBI.NS), the nation's biggest lender by assets, will gain $120 billion in assets following its merger with associate banks and Bhartiya Mahila Bank, the lender said in a statement on Saturday.

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Policymakers want to recapitalize and consolidate India's state-run banks so that they can extend fresh credit and help drive an investment-led recovery in Asia's third-largest economy that is currently getting a boost from state and private consumption.

India's 27 public sector banks account for 70 percent of its banking sector assets, as well as the lion's share of the country's $120 billion in troubled loans.

SBI said the merger would expand its assets by 36 percent to about $447 billion.
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New twist? Swamiji was not in favor of GSTN, now he is coming in open publicly

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 823879.cms
As one of his twitter followers asked when GST law will come into effect and if there is any possibility of its implementation from 2017 onwards, Swamy replied: "As of now it won't clear Supreme Court."
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A major win for #makeinindia
Toshiba JSW Ships its First “Made-in-India” Super-critical Steam Turbine Generator from Chennai Facility

Toshiba JSW Power Systems Pvt Ltd. (Toshiba JSW), today announced that the company marked a significant milestone in its endeavor to offer customers state-of-the-art power generations solutions with shipment of its first 'Made-in-India' steam turbine generator. The 800-megawatt steam turbine and generator (STG) for Unit 2 of the Kudgi Super-critical Thermal Power Station in Karnataka state is Toshiba's first large-scale generation system to be manufactured and assembled with locally procured parts and systems, and tested in India.
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Steel production, a significant barometer of core industrial activity, continues to grow strongly:
China, Japan, India push up world steel output
China’s crude steel production for July was 66.8 MT, an increase of 2.6 per cent compared to July 2015. Elsewhere in Asia, Japan produced 8.9 MT, an increase of 0.5 per cent compared to July 2015, World Steel said in a statement.

India produced 8.1 MT of crude steel in July 2016, up 8.1 per cent compared to the same month last year, while South Korea’s crude steel production was 6.0 MT, up by 1.5 per cent during the same period, it added.

The US, another major steel-making nation, produced 6.9 MT of steel in July 2016, a decrease of 2.2 per cent compared to July 2015.
Indian steel production has been over 8MT/month for half of the year so far. At current rate, we'll finish far ahead of the US, and just behind Japan. Current for Jan-Jul 2016, the figures for top 6 are:
China: 466MT
Japan: 60MT
India: 55MT
US: 47MT
Russia: 41MT
SoKo: 37MT

We should finish at about 95-100MT for the year.
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Some patronizing tripe by an aide in the Chinese embassy. No down some of our new age Gunga Dins will think it is a positive spin, but the narrative is very clear as are the careful wordings that betray the continuing insecurity and middle kingdom mindset:
http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/vXudGM5 ... onomy.html
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A pretty positive article on the Indian Economy
http://thinkingaloud.aberdeen-asset.co. ... nt-awakens
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... IIndiaNews

Centre takes up Brazil offer for ‘captive farming’ of pulses for India

NEW DELHI: Brazil has offered to do "captive farming" of pulses to meet the growing demand in India. Responding to the offer, the consumer affairs ministry is now preparing a detailed proposal.Consumer affairs minister Ram Vilas Paswan said that the offer came when he met ministers from Brazil during his visit to the the country. "They are ready to grow pulses for us. We need to provide the required seed and they will do the cultivation after conducting tests of our seeds. Rather than going to different countries for pulses, we can depend on one," he said.Already New Delhi has signed an MoU with the Mozambique government to increase the import of pulses from the African nation."Our main effort is to increase domestic production so that we won't depend on other countries. We have assured to procure pulses at minimum support price that they will produce. Now we are buying at market rate," Paswan said.Latest CommentPaswan was on Government Junket to Watch the Olympics and Poked his nose into "Pulse Cultivation".
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Prem wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... IIndiaNews

Centre takes up Brazil offer for ‘captive farming’ of pulses for India
We will have to be careful. If we are going to give them seeds., it must be only on the condition that the entire crop is for India and no seed crop has to find its way out of Brazil. Further any new IP on seeds belongs to India. That is if Brazilian improve the yield by creating a new seed line., that also belongs to India. Because it is our root stock which is enabling them to diversify their economy.

Brazil already has the Gir Cow germ plasm and they are using Gir hybrids to improve their beef and milk supply. Australians have stolen the Sahiwal germ plasm from India (try asking them for merino sheep germ plasm for growing sheep in Ladakh and see how they react). US has the Zebu and the Brahmin bull stolen from India.

We do not want the same mistake to happen with Toor, Udad, Moong dal. They are the future "green" protein sources and should be treated like gold.
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Dunno if this is the right thread to post this but...

Foreign media on gold found in Padmanabhaswamy temple India
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP0PhKI2FzU
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India's GDP to expand by 7.9% this financial year: Goldman Sachs
Indian economy is expected to clock 7.9 per cent growth in the current fiscal driven by better monsoon, government pay hike, key reforms and FDI inflows, Goldman Sachs said on Thursday.

The global financial services major said the GDP is expected to improve gradually and for the April-June quarter it may slow a tad to 7.8 per cent, in part due to unfavourable base. It had grown at 7.9 per cent in the previous quarter.

"For the fiscal year 2016-17, we forecast real GDP to grow by 7.9 per cent year-on-year, higher than consensus expectations of 7.5 per cent and up from 7.6 per cent in FY16," Goldman Sachs said in a research note.

It further noted that a better monsoon, civil service wage hike following 7th Pay Commission, a favourable fiscal monetary policy mix, the recent passage of key reforms and continued FDI inflows should all support growth.
First quarter (April-June) GDP data is due at the end of this month.
Manufacturing growth outlook rises
Expectations of growth in the manufacturing sector improved marginally in July-September, fuelled by hopes of higher exports, according to a survey by Ficci.

The quarterly manufacturing survey by the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry (Ficci) on Thursday revealed the proportion of respondents expecting higher growth during July-September rose marginally to 55 per cent from 53 per cent during the previous quarter.

However, manufacturers are yet to regain confidence in growth prospects as was evident in January-March, when 60 per cent of respondents expected higher growth. The industrial sector accelerated to an eight-month high in June, growing by 2.1 per cent with the aid of electricity and mining. Manufacturing, which contributes 75 per cent to the Index of Industrial Production, grew 0.9 per cent during the month, slightly higher than 0.6 per cent in the previous month.

The latest uptick in growth expectation, according to the survey, is primarily due to a slight improvement in the export outlook, with 41 per cent of respondents confident of higher exports, up from 36 per cent in the previous quarter. After rising for the first time in 18 months in June, merchandise exports shrank in July by 6.84 per cent on a decline in shipments of engineering goods and petroleum products.
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x-post.
SwamyG wrote:
Read the entire article. It gives a good big picture and context. It is from people who put money where their mouth is. There are graphs, charts and videos. Feel good onlee with a dose of realism.
http://thinkingaloud.aberdeen-asset.co. ... in-content
A common perception in India is that the reform process is stalling and Modi’s popularity is under pressure. This is frequently aired in the general media but it mischaracterises the reality.

Our trip to India reinforced our view that the seeds of significant structural changes have been sown.
While considerable challenges remain, policy makers remain committed to addressing them. Importantly, where the government cannot find a way through a problem, it is seeking to find ways around it instead.
Indicative of his unconventional approach, Modi disbanded the old top-down Planning Commission and replaced it with NITI Aayog – a government think-tank focussed on bottom-up economic policymaking at the state level. In the 2015 budget, Modi oversaw the largest ever devolution of central resources to the states, increasing their share of central tax revenue from 32% to 42%.

He has navigated a way around the impasse on land acquisition reform by encouraging legislation to be passed at the state level – something that is happening at pace.
Government efficiency is improving considerably and the number of stalled projects is declining.
On LAB - Land Acquisition Bill.
Now that the government has wisely passed the issue to the states, progress can be made on a state-by-state basis without the need to wait for central government to pass legislation – a prime example of Modi’s competitive federalism in action.
Modi’s approach is likely to further foster competitive federalism. A healthy level of competition between states for land, funds, talent and other resources is good for the country.
Perhaps the most radical of Modi’s reforms is ‘Digital India’, the government’s aim to transform the country into a digitally empowered knowledge economy and to boost standards of governance of citizens through better engagement with the government.
Companies are starting to report that high-level corruption has virtually disappeared – a huge development
A notable achievement that Modi has fulfilled his promise on is bankruptcy law. This can rarely be considered exciting but the Insolvency and Bankruptcy Code 2016 represents a watershed moment. The new code promises to streamline and accelerate the process through which creditors can recover their money when a company goes out of business.

The new code will help clear up bank balance sheets to allow lending for more productive purposes. This will, in turn, help support economic growth within a more stable financial system.
The origins of India’s current banking problems lie in the corporate investment binge of 2003-2008, which resulted in overcapacity and overextended balance sheets. State banks, in particular, were instrumental, lending excessively to infrastructure and steel companies for unprofitable road projects, power stations and factories.
Modi, who is apparently not taken to praising people, has publicly referred to Rajan as his guru. Modi certainly has much to thank him for.
In 2013, Manmohan Singh, India's then PM, appointed Rajan to run the RBI and fight inflation. The following year, Singh lost the election to Modi, who is pursuing India's most aggressive reform agenda in decades. The Rajan/Modi double act will do for India what Volcker/Reagan did for the US in the 1980s.
In less than two years, Modi’s government has transformed India’s political and economic landscape. Almost every week, we see seemingly intractable problems overcome by ever more innovative solutions. In particular, the shifting of power to the states has proven to be the most politically expedient way to resolve the longstanding issue of land reform.

Through the government’s initiatives, vital infrastructure is being built, business is becoming easier to do and corruption and bureaucracy are in decline. Indian companies will soon be able to access the global market for goods and services. India’s many young entrepreneurs will have the opportunity and incentives to realise their aspirations.

Contrary to some reports, Modi remains popular and reforms have not run out of steam. If one looks closely, changes are taking place everywhere. Indeed, reforms were always intended to be long-term in nature, rather than big bang.
All eyes will be on India as the giant awakens.
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Sometimes it appears that either GoI either has ministries working at cross purpose or are unable to learn the right lessons from History.
Firstly the debasement of our currency has led to a situation where Indians crave gold. The Indian populance want a hedge against a government which has steadly debased its currency over the entire history of post-independent India. Since Gold is hedge against inflation its value is retained irrespective of the state of our currency we are the biggest Gold Hoarders of the planet.

Secondly just to massage our current account deficit numbers and not to tackle the root causes of current account deficit we have implemented a 10% duty on Gold. This has led to smuggling on such a massive scale that some 30+ Gold Refiners in India are close to closing down, leading to loss of direct employment and also the value add that these guys were doing.
Is The Government's Take On Black Money Farcical? --- PersonalFn Dated 26-Aug-2016
Is The Government's Take On Black Money Farcical? wrote: The stench of smuggled gold has spread far, so much so that the gold refiners in India are on the verge of crashing down. All 32 refiners have terminated imports of ore. Once they used to find it difficult to secure the supplies of ores from the miners abroad. They are now struggling to find buyers for their refined product.
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The World Gold Council (WGC) predicts that, about 160 tonnes of gold will be smuggled in India this year.
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India has slammed 10% duty on gold imports to lower its current account deficit. And it's true that the higher duties discouraged official demand helping India save valuable foreign exchange. However, a quantitative assessment of its social cost hasn't been done. Imagine, the adverse consequences we might face when the duties will be rolled back some day. The latent demand may just explode. The Government needs to explain what we achieve by having a prohibitive duty structure at the expense of a long chain of social evils.
Thirdly BJP and especially our PM had made some tall claims on black money during the election. How does one square with what was claimed to would be done with what policies that BJP has followed till date? All that "Yuraj" has to do is call the bluff and put the term "feku" in the next general elections. Though it is too early to pass judgement on the 3rd stint of BJP rule, the omens are not good for the ruling dispensation. They have ridden on back of the mis management of UPA-II that was characterized by 11.5 % inflation with a job-less growth. And BJP is at the risk of falling into the same sinkhole that doomed Narshima Rao and then the same sinkhole into which the disastarous Cambridge-Harvard Duo of UPA-II fell into.
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Please continue the argument in the above post in the politics thread. It's not suitable for this one.
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the most important scheme that the above article missed is the Jan Dhan, that's a true game changer even if only 50% of those with new a/c's are BPL.
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Analysing the impact of the Pradhan Mantri Gram Sadak Yojana (PMGSY)
Listen to the full audio of the talk (above) by Samuel Asher from the University of Oxford where he shares findings from a comprehensive study on the Pradhan Mantri Gram Sadak Yojana (PMGSY).

Asher discusses the links between the lack of rural infrastructure, employment, and economic outcomes. He highlights that poor rural transportation infrastructure is a major constraint on the sectoral allocation of labour in low income countries, elaborating on the impact of the PMGSY in enabling local workers to access external labour markets.
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Trying to find that graph that showed the infra spending vs subsidy burden that was running bad in UPA2 and recovering now? help!
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India to grant residency to rich foreigners

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37231211


Indian version of EB5 visa..no permanent residency though
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India's economic growth is still the envy of the world

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/31/news/ec ... plead-intl
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