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shiv wrote:All 4 Pakistani Islamic Fidayeen Jihadi motherf*****s killed
https://twitter.com/Chopsyturvey/status ... 1186359297

Let us have uninterrupted and uninterruptible dialogue

Viv S wrote: What are the 'strategic implications' of exporting surplus electricity?

rsangram wrote:Pakistan is a temporary and illegitimate country. It has to be derecognized as a country. The goal is that in the long run, the Hindus will recapture the breakaway portion of India, which the rogue group that controls it calls Pakistan.

Any Indian, in our outside of the government, who does not covertly or overtly believes in this and works earnestly towards this goal, is a traitor.

rsangram wrote:

shiv wrote:All 4 Pakistani Islamic Fidayeen Jihadi motherf*****s killed
https://twitter.com/Chopsyturvey/status ... 1186359297

Let us have uninterrupted and uninterruptible dialogue

An immediate results of Modi's Chankiyan policy. Modi knew what he was doing, when he visited Pakistan without any concessions from Paki. Of course, he must have. He is Modi. And we are all "idol worshippers", this time around, we worship at the Modi temple.

What a great victory for Modi ! Congratulations ! The triumph is so great, that I am dhoti shivering, almost wetting myself.

After all, this time around, it was'nt Kargil, just a small attack on an air force base. Isnt that fantastic ?

shiv wrote:Your argument is based on gut response without reading my original post or mentioning what I said I thought in that post. However knowing your penchant for wanting to haggle over every little point and expecting answers when you ask questions this will be my last response to you on this topic

sanjaykumar wrote:Four dead already... that's fast. What is the mujahedeen camp song, Rafi saab's "shikaar karne ko aaye, shikar ho ke chale?"

rsangram wrote:An immediate results of Modi's Chankiyan policy.

SSridhar wrote:

rsangram wrote:An immediate results of Modi's Chankiyan policy.

rsangram, I understand your outburst but there is no need to blow the fuse. It would be, IMHO, the Indian reaction this time that would be the differentiator. I am sure our reaction would not be meek. Let's wait calmly to see how this one unravels. BTW, I am *not* one of those to follow Modi blindly.

sanjaykumar wrote:Four dead already... that's fast. What is the mujahedeen camp song, Rafi saab's "shikaar karne ko aaye, shikar ho ke chale?"

CRamS wrote:

sanjaykumar wrote:Four dead already... that's fast. What is the mujahedeen camp song, Rafi saab's "shikaar karne ko aaye, shikar ho ke chale?"

Yes, but we lost 3 of our guys in the process. Even an rodent is not worth losing for these pigLeTs.

rohitvats wrote:Some thoughts on Pathankot AFB attack:

1. Pakistan resorting to attacks outside Kashmir as we've managed to force status quo in the Valley. It cannot inflict 'pain' on us in Kashmir. That leverage is lost.

2. But attacking India outside of Kashmir framework cannot be explained under the 'freedom fighter' paradigm unless someone in Pakistan claims responsibility; if someone does that, it will force Pakistan to do something about it. Even undertaking a sham investigation on lines of 26/11 puts pressure on Pakistan and its fault lines. Not to forget, it gives Pakistan a 'bad name'.

3. So, this gets registered as a true case of asymmetric war against India. And attacking an AFB is as close to waging a war as possible. Only 26/11 or 2001 are next in the escalation ladder.

4. Someone really went for broke here; a lot of capital was spent on this attack and stakes ARE MEANT to be raised high by attacking an AFB. NM's Lahore visit has really really rankled the Deep State.

5. Also, I don't think Pathankot AFB was happening irrespective of talks - that base has open areas all around with heavy vegetation. Not to forget a canal running right through it. In an attack like 26/11, there was deliberate action all along the way. In this attack, the only deliberate part was pointing to the intended target. That's it. If someone really wanted to take out fighter assets in Pathankot, they could've planned better. Rather than use the spray and pray tactics, more deliberate and covert attempts could've been make to infiltrate the base.

But it seems someone wanted to make a point. A big point. And quickly. Any damage to fighter assets, or prolonging the siege is an additional bonus. And good optics. Please don't forget that Gurdaspur-Pathankot belt has a huge concentration of army establishments. And these are sited right next to the main roads/highways. If you close your eyes and throw a stone randomly, chances are it will land in an army establishment. There are 'n' number of more vulnerable targets which could've been picked up and where casualties would be much higher.

But attacking an Air Force station signals a gross escalation and making a point.

Also, please don't forget that ISI agents have been held in Bhatinda and Pathankot a few days back. So, someone wanted to quickly act on the intelligence.

6. But what is equally important that GOI had anticipated the move. It would be difficult to pin-point the target but heightened level of security can help to reduce options for terrorists, make them make mistakes and reduce casualties/damage in case of an attack.

arun wrote:I applaud the Shiv Sena’s position of not associating with the Mohammadden terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan even on artistic matters till such time as the Islamic Republic acts on Mohammadden Terrorism targeting India even while recognising methods used by the Shiv Sena may be less than halal.

I also find it most regrettable that the BJP and Prime Minister Narendra Modi U-turned on the pre-election commitment to our Nation of following a robust policy when it came to the Mohammadden terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan and instead are permitting their citizens access to India. Most disappointing that the our Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Government is not doing what they ought to be doing and are instead leaving the job to the Shiv Sena:

Pakistani singers' concert called off after Shiv Sena threat

Meanwhile the Sabri Brothers are not the only citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan traipsing around in India, from Hyderabad comes the disappointing news that Rahat Fateh Ali Khan was granted a visa to sully India’s land:

A twisted tale of Rahat’s performance

Milano wrote:....one should consider that this type of attack would have been weeks/months in the planning, as opposed to < 7d.

The free run that the four terrorists had for nearly 24 hours even after the abduction of Superintendent of Police Salwinder Singh on Thursday night and were able to reach and attack the IAF base, has exposed the security breach despite the high alert in the area.

habal wrote:Good Sharif has even stopped appointing foreign ministers because as soon as they get into saddle, they start taking orders from elsewhere and ignore Good Sharif's brief.

A_Gupta wrote:But there is no good Sharif, there is only bad and worse.

arun wrote:

A_Gupta wrote:Tribune News Service
Pathankot, January 2
The Air Force station at Pathankot was attacked by terrorists in the wee hours this morning. Two Air Force personnel were reported killed at the station gate, while two of the assailants were shot dead in the exchange of fire that was triggered. In all there were four or five attackers at the site, though more were suspected to have infiltrated from Pakistan.
Even as the National Security Guard was being mobilised, the terrorists were believed to have been contained in a small area. No damage to Air Force assets was reported thus far. The exchange of fire is still going on.
The intruders wearing Army uniforms were suspected to have entered the Air Force premises in an official vehicle.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab ... 78456.html

The BJP led Government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi seems to have built themselves a contingency plan for continuing dialogue with the Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan following an inevitable Islamic Republic of Pakistan linked Terrorist attack in India by having our Minister of External Affairs. Sushma Swaraj, make this comment in Mid-December of last year ie: 2015.

Be prepared for the ugly spectacle of Nehru Gandhi family led Congress Party member Mani Shankar Aiyar applauding Modi Sarkar’s resolve to make talks with the Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan “uninterrupted and uninterruptible” despite provocation of Islamic Republic of Pakistan linked Mohammadden Terrorist attacks in India :

Can’t let saboteurs stop dialogue with Pakistan: Sushma Swaraj

VikasRaina wrote:Pls raise your hand if you thought that NM's drop in visit to Pakistan would magically stop all terror ops against India despite knowing for years that good Shareif or any other PM has no control or leverage over terror apparatus or Army. He can just play along or sulk in the corner.
Even if India gives away Kashmir and Siachin and Sir creek and all the rivers to Pakistan, These terror attacks will not stop. It requires dismantling of Pak as a Kabilla whch means that the tent needs to be blown away, fear of predatory animals and random attacks by dark forces with no place to hide for this Kabilla.
PS: yes I am a Modi bhakt whatever that means.

The attack on Pathankot Air base comes at a time when talks between India and Pakistan started getting on track. The ‘rising hope’ after Modi-Nawaz bonhomie, Sushma Swaraj visit to Pakistan, and the talks between NSAs in Thailand may see a dumping now.
Every time there is even a hint of any softening on the part of the elected government (as there was recently by repeated talks), the jihadis strike back, no doubt with the support of the Pakistani army and ISI.
This attack once again reminds us of the dominance of Pakistan’s Deep State (the ISI and army and their jihadi adjuncts) which are the actual rulers of the country. This is why Pakistan will never offer us any concession.

VikasRaina wrote:Pls raise your hand if you thought that NM's drop in visit to Pakistan would magically stop all terror ops against India despite knowing for years that good Shareif or any other PM has no control or leverage over terror apparatus or Army. He can just play along or sulk in the corner.
Even if India gives away Kashmir and Siachin and Sir creek and all the rivers to Pakistan, These terror attacks will not stop. It requires dismantling of Pak as a Kabilla whch means that the tent needs to be blown away, fear of predatory animals and random attacks by dark forces with no place to hide for this Kabilla.
PS: yes I am a Modi bhakt whatever that means.

shiv wrote:

Avinash R wrote:‘Kissing’ Pakistani soil ‘soaked’ in Indian blood will prove ‘costly’: Shiv Sena to PM Modi

It is One Week since Modi held Nawaz Sharifs hand

Two sons/husbands/fathers lost

A_Gupta wrote:Pakistan's terrorism strategy matches the legendary Ghori. Will keep attacking, no matter what. Hoping for one misstep, or one Jaichand.

abhishek_sharma wrote:K. C. Singh Verified account
‏@ambkcsingh

#PathankotAttack This shouldn't derail dialogue unless aid&abetment by Pak state is traced. If so Pak shouldn't go into automatic denial.

deejay wrote:Befitting means "suitable; proper; fitting.". Then what would be a "Befitting Reply" to a terrorist attack? Cross Border firing, Suspension of Talks, No Cricket, Dossiers, De Marche or a Protest in UN?

rsangram wrote:Pakistan is a temporary and illegitimate country. It has to be derecognized as a country. The goal is that in the long run, the Hindus will recapture the breakaway portion of India, which the rogue group that controls it calls Pakistan.

Any Indian, in our outside of the government, who does not covertly or overtly believes in this and works earnestly towards this goal, is a traitor.

deejay wrote:Befitting means "suitable; proper; fitting.". Then what would be a "Befitting Reply" to a terrorist attack? Cross Border firing, Suspension of Talks, No Cricket, Dossiers, De Marche or a Protest in UN?

nirav wrote:........A befitting reply doesn't necessarily be broadcast on times now. The numerous jhapads BSF/IA gave to the Pakis on the border resulting in the Pakis requesting us to stop,as quoted by Rakha mantri, is proof enough that the govt walks the talk......

Baikul wrote:

nirav wrote:........A befitting reply doesn't necessarily be broadcast on times now. The numerous jhapads BSF/IA gave to the Pakis on the border resulting in the Pakis requesting us to stop,as quoted by Rakha mantri, is proof enough that the govt walks the talk......

While there can be no disagreement that retaliation does to need to be broadcast on public television, the words of a government functionary (Defence Minister) that the actions taken by his government (the jhapads referred to) have been brilliantly successful are not acceptable as proof.