PratikDas wrote:JwalaMukhi wrote:The take home message from the above image is that - India is producing lesser electricity. But that is not news and is already known. This image is very interesting for psy-ops and shown for dazzling effect. Norway having a population of 5 million and other such assorted countries having population in smaller numbers are painted with better per capita to skew the relevance for India.
The meaningful comparison will be countries having substantial populations comparable to India. So comparisons with China, US, Brazil and USSR are relevant. The rest is time pass.
This chart doesn't reveal what should be considered good per capita consumption for India.
Most of the countries living in colder regions of the world have no alternative and have to consume a large percentage for dealing with extreme temperatures of heating and cooling. Hence mere survival in these regions require lot of electricity. Given the relatively milder temperature in India, what would be a good per capita consumption of electricity for India?
If someone is dazzled by looking at Norway and making a decision,one will be ready to import nuclear plant even from North Korea.
I'm impressed with how passionately you defend Norway. Here's my take on things. If Norway is cold, entitling Norwegians to heating and large amounts of electricity for it, so is India hot and there is no reason why Indians shouldn't benefit from air-conditioning. Air-conditioning in India is still in the early stages because they cost so much to run and so many homes need to be rewired to handle the current. That does NOT mean that India isn't entitled to the capacity for it.
I did NOT include Norway for psy-ops. I chose Norway because they're an energy-rich country, just like Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Russia whom I've also short-listed. Norwegians have worked to the top of that list. I didn't put them there. If I was gunning for psy-ops, I would've included Iceland. I didn't.
Just setting the record straight on who said what…Sanku ji (not PratikDas ji) quoted me for saying things I did not.
Also, on things that matter but I don't know I will defer to those who I consider gurus and follow the below aphorism:
Swayam Buddhi Hitharthaya { Depend on our capabilities}
Guru Buddhi Vishseshataha {Take advise from Gurus and follow}
Para Buddhi Vinashaya {Don’t get swayed by what others provoke you to do…Don’t be West’s poodle }
Stree Buddhi Pralayankara {Definitely don’t bet your life on cat fights involving the likes of Sonia and Jaya}
Before anyone accuses me of being a total MCP (though admittedly it seems I show some symptoms at times based on my wife’s feedback during my year-end appraisal
)…I want to say that my idea of ”Guru” could be of any gender..”Stree” is symbolic of stressing emotional/subjective matters over objective.
Having said the above, just because I was pulled on this thread..here is my chavanni:
Based on what all has been posted on this thread and my *very limited* understanding of those the arguments are basically of 3 types:
•Continue with current program and if possible accelerate it
----FUK-D does not matter or has been addressed sufficiently
•Don’t continue with current program because current admin can’t be trusted with preserving Indian autonomy in these matters
----These folk’s primary concern is for them to use Indian tech and are not necessarily anti-nuke
----These folks don’t mind using current fiasco to their advantage if that puts brakes on sabotage;
oMost interestingly, these folks are put into such a situation that to prevent who they consider some Ts that want to curtail domestic capability building, they are being forced to side with (or not speak against) other set of Ts.
•There are others who just realized that they don’t want Nuke in our backyard
----These folks, IMO, have most rosy picture of renewable (not counting nuke as renewable only *because* Bush seems to have said so)
----Credibility of these folks is in doubt (IMO) an they might just create a massive misallocation of resource on unproven and not necessarily “green” thing.
----These folks too seem to be swimming with Ts
Interestingly all the 3 camps know we needed TWHs of energy YESTERDAY.
My view, IMO, is we should not be following West with the way they built (or building) their infrastructure driving by consumption of natural resources on such a scale and we ought to be taking a different route without sacrificing our chances of providing better quality of life for all Indians. The wastage of resources these models of West facilitate is mind boggling.
Given to me, I would suggest Nuke approach from Top-Down and Solar/Wind from bottom-up approaches to mitigate the risk of misallocation of resources on massive scale. If I should put it comically.. I would give the greenies a Solar Hut/Home with a light and solar a/c, with add-on
charkha 
that they can keep rotating and pushing power to their home power, a solar
chatri 
with a fan underneath, a small solar borewell..however small the flow is..but can run all day long. This will be true return to independence /autonomy without sacrificing growth.
. The clip also made it to a few night time comedy shows.
let me put the exact quotes:
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