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kancha wrote:Blast at Islamabad shrine wounds at least 39

...The blast took place at the shine of Nange Badshah next to the famous Chan Pir Badsah shrine in Pindorian neighbourhood on the outskirts of Islamabad.

The likely terrorist attack took place on second day of the three-day annual Mela (festival).

The nature of the blast could not yet be verified but Chief Commissioner Paul told Dawn.com that initial probe into the incident suggests it was carried out through a time device as the bomb was likely planted inside a tree at the shrine.

abhishek_sharma wrote:There are no good Taliban: Kamal Davar

The writer, a retired lieutenant general, was India’s first defence intelligence chief.

Ambar wrote:Friday cometh ! Dhamaka in Islamabad injures 39, 7 critically. So much for the "door-to-door mop up" operation which was supposed to start this week !

SSridhar wrote:

KrishnaK wrote:How can it be not our duty ? How exactly can India's neighbourhood be kept secure ? With them having acquired nukes our ability to punish them has also gone down substantially. This idea that we can build some fence and then be secure is kinda bullshit. There is no other option. A way must be found.

KrishnaK, take a deep breath. I am not bull$hitting. I agree with your macro view that member nations of the Indian subcontinent must be tied into the Indian economy. In fact, that is *one of the the levers* we have to use with Pakistan as well. But, IMHO, it cannot come about by simply appeasing Pakistan, by allowing freer contacts, by unilateral Indian decisions of friendship or concessions, by letting it go unpunished for its crimes against us etc. Those are self-defeating and history repeatedly shows they are doomed to failure. There is no one silver bullet to tame Pakistan and turn it into a normal nation state. Pakistan itself does not wish to be so. Powerful countries have conspired to make it remain abnormal and abominable. However, Pakistan cannot arrest its unending slide without help from India. That is the bottom line. Neither China nor US can do that for it. Nor, the friends from the Desert. If that has to happen, Pakistan must be yearning for that and also earn the Indian hand. Let us tighten the screw ever more tightly on Pakistan. The US and PRC can keep Pakistan's jaws bobbing just above the water and if that is what Pakistan wants then so be it. In the meanwhile, let us consolidate our position with Bhutan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Maldives, Oman, Iran and Afghanistan.

Even the mighty Soviet Union fell. Ideology can only go so far. .

Exactly. Our efforts must be to hasten the fall of Pakistan, as Gen. Schwarzkof said in another context. But, that is not going to be achieved through enrolling the Pakistani Abduls on our payroll because such attempts have come a cropper in situations that were more conducive than they are now or will ever be in future.

anmol wrote:

loadshedding would come to an end within three to four years with the addition 11,000 megawatts

the country is currently enduring its "peak power shortfall" of 4,500 MW

Australia is offering Pakistani asylum-seekers in its Pacific immigration camps up to Australian $3,300 if they voluntarily return to their home country

those returning to Lebanon from detention centres on Papua New Guinea's Manus Island and the tiny Pacific state of Nauru were offered the highest amount of $10,000

Iranians and Sudanese were given $7,000

Nepal and Myanmar $3,300

anmol wrote:

chandturakhia wrote:Please add my favourite - Burma

Listen to a Paki having his ass ripped open from here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... uls#t=4149

Ambar wrote:..and all said and done, the talking heads behind the high desk all nodded in unison that US must continue to engage with Pakistan because a failed Pakistan with nukes would be catastrophic. So its old wine in a new bottle. The only bit which interests me is was the notion that off late India has started to look at its Pakistan policy through US' prism, and US must use this position to further its interest in the region. I think we can thank MMS and his coterie for that.

A_Gupta wrote:^^^ C.C. Fair's Heritage Foundation talk: - this really belongs on the US thread - I find it utterly revealing that the US thinks levying personal sanctions against then-Gujarat CM Narendra Modi, and against Putin's associates (for Ukraine) is acceptable and effective; but the former US government officials on the Heritage panel are so resistant to the idea of personal sanctions against Pakistani officials responsible for the killing of American soldiers in Afghanistan.

PS: now the excuse for engaging with the Pakistani Army is simply "to keep nuclear weapons from the hands of terrorists".

PPS: the simple question to any American official ought to be -- if you accept C.C. Fair's statement that anything anti-US Iran aspires to do, Pakistan has already done, then why is US not treating Pakistan like Iran (or treat Iran like Pakistan)?

PPPS: I will be really surprised if C.C. Fair gets tenure at Georgetown University -- she is stepping on too many US sacred toes.

shiv wrote:Listen to a Paki having his ass ripped open from here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... uls#t=4149

ramana wrote: Pak state is totally dependent on the identity of the Pak Apostate Army. If US kicks them it collapses the state as one A(Amrika) kicks the other A(Army) and the remaining A(Allah) takes over.

Hence its US interest to keep the pretense the Kabila guards are a legitimate entity.

SYDNEY: Australia is offering Pakistani asylum-seekers in its Pacific immigration camps up to Australian $3,300 if they voluntarily return to their home country, a report said Saturday, prompting outrage from refugee campaigners.

Iranians and Sudanese were given $7,000 if they dropped bids for refugee status, Afghans $4,000 and those from Pakistan, Nepal and Myanmar $3,300, the report in The Sydney Morning Herald said.

JE Menon wrote:Yes, an excellent and honest exposition by C. Fair. Brutally honest, and I especially liked the brutal part - small blessing considering the out and out oiseaule she had to her left, David something or other, who basically said everything she said is right but they must keep engaging with Pakistan because it has something vague to offer and because there's no better option or something of that nature...

SSridhar wrote:(quote="shiv")Listen to a Paki having his ass ripped open from here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... 49(/quote)
Superlative. Who is that guy to Ms. Fair's left who 'admits' to US mistakes etc and wants to bring some 'balance' to ass ripping? Apparently, he is an ex-diplomat in Islamabad. It is such guys who have helped Pakistan immeasurably.

On another question on Afghanistan. I do not quite agree with Ms. Fair on the Durand Line issue. Abdur Rehman might have initialled it with the Raj and Pakistan might have inherited the British legacy. But, the agreement itself was for 99 years and it expired c. 1993. Besides, the dividing line was drawn without paying any heed to tribal and clannish ethnicities etc. It cruelly divided the Pakhtuns just so that the British can have a buffer on the north-west of its Raj. They (mis)ruled these areas through the FC Regulations. Just before the Indian Independence, Kabul demanded the Raj to return the Pakhtun lands to it, which was not acceded to by the British. Not willing to join Pakistan, and not being allowed to re-join Afghanistan, the Pakhtuns settled for 'Pashtunistan' under the leadership of Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan. Jinnah and the Muslim League organized a Gilgit-Baltistan style of coup in the FATA through the Pir of Manki Sharief to get the concurrence of the 'Jirga' to accede to Pakistan. An infuriated Afghanistan instigated the tribals to attack Pakistan and this led to frequent skirmishes along the Durand Line. After a particularly strong skirmish, the PAF bombed an Afghan village in 1949 that led to the repudiation by Kabul of the Durand Line. So, it is incorrect for Ms. Fair to imply that Kabul has been up to mischief in these areas to poke in Pakistani eyes with help from India and Pakistan is innocent. Ms. Fair knows that even the pro-Pakistan Taliban refused point-blank to convert the Durand Line to an international border. So, it is just not a mischief by Mohammed Daoud Khan and others alone.

CRamS wrote: 2. A_GuptaJi asks the question I have directly asked the uneven types, namely, what crime has Iran committed that TSP has not, for all this diplomatic rain dance about the need to engage TSP and give it billions, and other than contemptuously dismissing me, or asking why if MMS engages TSP, US should not, I never got a good answer.

3. Nobody questions the real policy of US, namely India TSP equal equal, and hence the "need to engage TSP" from the likes of Uneven. Somebody should ask Fair that.

4. Finally, for all of Fair's eloquence, she still believes that India is in Afghanistan, not because India has interests there, India has civilizational roots, India has a right, and above all, to help Afghans from radical Islamists; but rather India is just there to "provoke" TSP. That to me is a pitiful reading of India's intentions.

CRamS wrote: 2. A_GuptaJi asks the question I have directly asked the uneven types, namely, what crime has Iran committed that TSP has not, for all this diplomatic rain dance about the need to engage TSP and give it billions, and other than contemptuously dismissing me, or asking why if MMS engages TSP, US should not, I never got a good answer.

pgbhat wrote:On a side note Dr. C Fair called Rand corp as "Bland" corp.

kish wrote:I thoroughly enjoyed that spat, because at that time she was pro-pakistan.

Seized with patriotic fervour, the federal government has ordered the Capital Development Authority (CDA) to install a 541-square-foot flag on a 200-foot pole in the federal capital

“The idea to have a massive flag erected in the city is possibly inspired by New Delhi’s monumental flagpole, measuring 207 feet, which the prime minister saw on his recent visit to India,” said an official of the CDA.

However, technical experts from the civic body are perplexed as no one seems to have any experience or expertise to guide the development and installation of a 200-foot flagpole.

anupmisra wrote:Meanwhile, back at the zoo, the chief simian wants ‘giant’ national flag hoisted in Islamabad to match the evil Yindoos.

Seized with patriotic fervour, the federal government has ordered the Capital Development Authority (CDA) to install a 541-square-foot flag on a 200-foot pole in the federal capital. . .“The idea to have a massive flag erected in the city is possibly inspired by New Delhi’s monumental flagpole, measuring 207 feet, which the prime minister saw on his recent visit to India,” said an official of the CDA.

Damn you, evil Yindoos. Next act of baki senate is to commission a giant statue of djinna to match the in India.