The Levant crisis.(Israel,SYRIA,Lebanon,etc) - II

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 14 Feb 2016 05:02

Watch the serial to understand the fluid European politics and search for stable energy source.

Once the middle east is in fire Russia becomes the only stable energy source for European countries.

member_29325 · Post by **member_29325** » 14 Feb 2016 05:09

Once the middle east is in fire Russia becomes the only stable energy source for European countries.

That was already the case before the Ukraine embroglio, until Merkel's leadership caused NATO screwed themselves by siding with Ukraine on the US's insistence. The North Pipeline was and is still the stable energy source for EU, and Netherlands and other EU countries have already stated as such.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 14 Feb 2016 05:17

Whenever I think the wurld has hit its dumbitude nadir, el leaders surprise me with another faith based dive. Le Rebels now have MRLS. TOWs werent enough. Whats next, an air force? Meanwhile sultan is demanding control over portions beyond ajaz. Presidentski better turn on his next gear if they dont want to see a stalemate.

Frankly the 22Ms dont carry enough. You need 52 style carpets over that 10x10miles, then mine it and do the same clockwise till you hit sea, ijjraeli border included. the ijjraelis will thank you for the extra buffer. These small scale cauldrons and corvettes in the med wont do for much longer.

Keep at it on this pace and face the prospect of needing own boots on the ground.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 06:35

events are moving to a head in minas tirith....all have now arrived for the fight except the pakis, MIA as usual when things get hot ... supreme survivalist creatures like crocs and leopards.

manjgu · Post by **manjgu** » 14 Feb 2016 06:39

upreme survivalist creatures like ~~crocs and leopards~~. cockroaches

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 06:46

turkish 155/52 cal SP guns on the border.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 06:47

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 06:55

petolucem analysis the military buildup north of the border, their types and probable employment.
read in full.

http://southfront.org/military-analysis ... for-syria/

like the saudis, the turks are very well equipped with both imported and local equipment
unlike the saudis the turks can fight and have fought the kurds for decades already
the saudi f-15s being more advanced in A2A than the turkish f-16 might be beef up the air protection, i dont expect saudis will need to help with anything on the ground beyond few fig leaf units.

it all depends on how they can engineer a provocation:

Turkey’s membership in NATO complicates its plans of invasion. Unless Turkey is itself attacked, the NATO alliance is not obligated to defend the nation. Turkey will have to engineer a provocation that frames it as the target of an aggression either by Kurdish forces from beyond its borders or by Syrian or Russian forces combating its terrorist allies in Syria. Such a false flag provocation in not outside of the realm of possibility. When a Turkish F-16 shot down a Russian Su-24, claims that the bomber had strayed into Turkish airspace for a number of minutes and ignored radio warnings from the Turkish aircraft were proven to be patently false. A year earlier in 2014, an audio recording of Turkish officials, including the head of the Security Service (MIT), Deputy Chief of the General Staff, Foreign Minister and the Undersecretary to the Foreign Minister discussing staging an attack on the Tomb of Suleiman Shah (a sovereign piece of Turkish territory) in Syria and using it as a pretext to intervene in Syria were leaked anonymously on YouTube. The Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan responded by banning YouTube in Turkey, in affect giving support to the recordings authenticity. Now that the Syrian government has the upper hand militarily, gaining back territory and destroying, surrounding or pushing back various Turkish-backed terrorist forces, Turkey may be ready to engineer a new excuse to invade.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:00

this is the special envoy of POTUS led coalition against ISIS

Brett McGurkVerified account
‏@brett_mcgurk
We have urged Syrian Kurdish & other forces affiliated with YPG not to take advantage of a confused situation by seizing new territory. 2/5

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:01

RuAF has sent airstrikes onto El-Bab also now

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 3h3 hours ago
#RuAF airstrikes on #IS in Manbij in NE #Aleppo countryside

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 4h4 hours ago
PYD office opening in Moscow wasn't just for fun

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:03

turkey has also trans-shipped more jihadis from Iblib border crossing into north aleppo.

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 6h6 hours ago
Turkish PM Oglu has called for Kurdish fighters to withdraw from the "Azaz area" in north #Aleppo

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 7h7 hours ago
20+ air raids by #RuAF on Tel Rifaat #Aleppo

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:04

Fer G
‏@FGunay1
BREAKING Turkish PM Davutoglu: YPG has to leave Azaz and shouldnt come near it ever again

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:04

Dr Partizan ‏@DrPartizan_ 8h8 hours ago
37 air raids at least by Russian Air Force on Til Rifaat today, now YPG/SDF will try to take it. It's been held by jihadists for long time.

Dr Partizan ‏@DrPartizan_ 9h9 hours ago
BREAKING: Heavy clashes outside Tel Rifaat between YPG/SDF and Turkish backed jihadists!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:05

agitpapa ‏@agitpapa 14h14 hours ago
Confirmed: 20 Saudi F-15s in Incirlik

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:08

nusra reinforcements from hama to west aleppo countryside

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:11

RT : video of small buyan_M corvette of black sea fleet southbound through bosporus to syria

https://twitter.com/LyudmilaKaya/status ... 8990846977

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:12

orcs march on minas tirith

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:15

saudi and turki planes are the nazgul providing air cover with their dragons.

gandalf needs to call in his spirit eagles unit to break that up.

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 07:16

Singha wrote:nusra reinforcements from hama to west aleppo countryside

nice convoy there, why weren't they bombed.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2016 07:18

they probably released photos to boost morale of their supporters after making the journey

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 07:20

maybe this is before making the journey, that increases chances of getting all of them together in single frame. Who knows how many missing at end of journey ?

btw nice tarmac.

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 07:27

South Front - Syrian army captured a strategic crossroad in southern Raqqa

The Syrian army and its allied forces continue to push northeast towards the strategic Tabaqa Military Airport in the Al-Raqqa Governorate.

Today, it is reported that the Syrian Arab Army, Liwaa Suqour Al-Sahra), Fouj Al-Joulan (Golani Regiment), the National Defense Forces (NDF), and the pro-government Palestinian militia “Liwaa Al-Quds” have made several advances in the eastern Hama countryside.

According to the report, the Syrian army and its allied forces continue to push northeast towards the strategic Tabaqa Military Airport in the Al-Raqqa Governorate.

A battlefield reporter said that the Syrian Arab Army successfully cutoff an ISIS transportation route at the Zakiyah crossroad late last night, which connected to the Hama Governorate’s eastern countryside.

The reporter also said that, the Syrian Armed Forces have successfully sieged the Salamiyah-Raqqa Highway in the Hama Governorate after taking the Zakiyah crossroad in southern Al-Raqqa.

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 07:36

Nuclear-tipped cruise missibles being introduced in mediterranean

eye witness reports -
*Russia is amassing military supplies in its Southern Military District
The Main highway from Kerch to Simferopol, Crimea is completely LOADED with huge military convoys and trucks carrying VAST amounts of heavy military hardware to the Black Sea Port at Simferopol. The road has a traffic back-up two-hundred eight kilometers long
*An entire FLEET of Russian Antonov-124 cargo planes (the largest cargo planes in the world) have begun arriving in Syria carrying Russian Tanks, Nuclear-tipped artillery shells and other major war fighting gear. Within the last 90 minutes, TWO of these massive cargo aircraft have landed and began unloading. Other Antoniv's can be seen circling under the watchful eye of Russian warplanes
*YPG still moving south of Azaz, Syria towards the town of Tel Rifat. This offensive appears coordinated with Russian Air Force.
*Turkish warplanes are flying on the Turkey side of the Turkey/Syria Border, fast and low. Russian warplanes are flying on the Syrian side of the Turkey/Syria border!
*Turkish Official boldly declares "major escalation will take place in Syria within 24 hours."
*Stratfor is now confirming Russia has dispatched a ship to the Mediterranean, with NUCLEAR-TIPPED CRUISE MISSILES.

http://sputniknews.com/military/2016021 ... vette.html
kalibr missiles now on syrian shores
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160 ... ssile.html

member_29325 · Post by **member_29325** » 14 Feb 2016 07:57

@zbig With Saudi Arabia not acting as a moderating Sunni power in the Middle East, can Egypt or Turkey fill the void?

Joker Zbigniew is USA's top strategeric expert, and thinks KSA and Turkey will be "moderating sunni powers" in West Asia.

This is his anal-isis of ISIS's motivation -- apparently KSA was going to be a stabilizing factor, but unfortunately colonialism created ISIS.

@zbig The eruption of repressed memories of at times lethal western colonialism partially fuels the rise of ISIL.

Shanu · Post by **Shanu** » 14 Feb 2016 08:24

Russia is expelling Turkish citizens from its soil, even long term settlers are getting the boot.

http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-exp ... 50147.html

crisis in Russian-Turkish relations that followed the downing by the Turkish Air Force of a Russian warplane two months ago has created an unforeseen and potentially disastrous situation for hundreds of Circassians from Turkey who over the past decade have settled in the North Caucasus and opened small businesses there.
Those who have not yet obtained Russian citizenship now face expulsion from Russia, just as their ancestors did following the conquest of their homeland by tsarist Russia 150 years ago.
the Federal Migration Service office in the Kabardino-Balkaria Republic -- one of the three North Caucasus regions where Circassians are a titular nationality, and the one where the majority of the Circassians from Turkey now live - has notified many of the Circassians who have not yet been granted Russian citizenship that their temporary residence right has been rescinded.
Some have already been forced to leave Russia. Some Turkish Circassians living in Adygheya have, reportedly been subjected to pressure from Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) to renounce their Turkish citizenship. One, Adnan Khuade, was sentenced in December together with his daughter and an employee of his small store to 15 days' administrative arrest following an altercation with FSB officials.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Feb 2016 09:02

SAudi Barbaria sends 20 F 15s and this thread takes off.

Anyways, here is US admitting that the Russian bombing of ISIS oil trucks to Turks is the cause of Turkey going loony.

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pen ... an-crisis/

Pentagon spokesman “Jeff Davis” issued a statement on his Facebook page and introduced attacks on ISIS Turkish oil ships as the main cause of the Turkish Russian crisis.

According to “AWD NEWS” news agency, in analyzing tensions between Turkey and Russia in his Facebook page,Jeff Davies officially admitted: Earlier every time we wanted to attack an ISIS oil tanker we gave them notices because we knew tanks drivers were Turks, but in their attacks the Russian have not thought of this for Turkish citizens and bombarded them without prior notice; this has led to the reckless behavior of Ankara with Russia.

They say through Russian Sukhoi aircraft attacks on ISIS oil tankers heading to Turkey, more than five hundred trucks were attacked and this was a big blow to ISIS and Turkey. Reports hold that a daily transfer of 60 thousand tons of oil to Turkey favored ISIS over a million dollars and more than one and a half times to Turkey.

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pen ... an-crisis/ | Al-Masdar News

member_29325 · Post by **member_29325** » 14 Feb 2016 09:07

Pentagon used to provide excuses for Pakistani army when they fighting the mythical "al qaeda" and now they are providing excuses for Turkey's support of ISIS. So Russia is supposed to care for the sentiments of turkey before it bombs ISIS? Which leads to the question as to whether the US managed to damage a few water bottles and scratch a few cars over 2 years of "bombing ISIS" because they provided advance warning to Turkey? Just like how they provided PAkistani with coordinates of where the bombs would fall so paki terrorists could be safely taken out of harms way. History is not supposed to repeat itself this quickly..

Y. Kanan · Post by **Y. Kanan** » 14 Feb 2016 09:12

I don't think Russia can win a shooting war with Turkey & Saudi, not without resorting to nukes...

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 09:25

deejay wrote:SAudi Barbaria sends 20 F 15s and this thread takes off.

Anyways, here is US admitting that the Russian bombing of ISIS oil trucks to Turks is the cause of Turkey going loony.

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pen ... an-crisis/

Earlier every time we wanted to attack an ISIS oil tanker we gave them notices because we knew tanks drivers were Turks, but in their attacks the Russian have not thought of this for Turkish citizens and bombarded them without prior notice;

"if you ride with them, you hang with them".
old Texan law for cattle thieves. Turks hang out with ISIS so they get killed with them.

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 09:43

Syrian army braces to approach IS so called capital

DAMASCUS, Feb. 13, The Syrian army is preparing to advance toward the north central city of al-Raqqa, the so called capital of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group in Syria.

The Syrian army is a few kilometers from the provincial borders of al-Raqqa, following the rapid progress it has recently achieved on the desert highway near the town of Athraya, on the road between al-Raqqa and the northern province of Aleppo.

Advancing toward al-Raqqa will grant the Syrian army a foothold in that city for the first time since the IS terror group invaded the al-Tabaqa airbase in 2014.

In Aleppo, where the Syrian army is making strides against the foreign-backed mercenaries, the Syrian state TV said the Syrian military forces captured the town of Tamura on Saturday, overseeing thus the entire town of Hayan and the northwestern parts of the town of Andan.

The fresh development on the ground in Syria comes from Saudi Arabia and Turkey mulling intervening militarily in Syria under the pretext of fighting Daesh, the Arabic term of the IS.

Such an intervention will spark extra chaos in the already war-torn country, particularly after Syria's Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem said any invader of Syrian territory "will be returned home in coffins."

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 14 Feb 2016 09:47

Has 3rd WW started yet?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Feb 2016 10:02

Its gonna turn out o be bluff, Saudi most probably doing it to save face. Little caressing over their feathers by outside power will provide the way out for them. Soon French or Brit will do this. But Turkey Ka Kya Hogga Janabe Aaaalli? Syrian,Russian, Shias,Kurds are all waiting holding sharp Kurd in their right hand.
Good thing that Crude will remain cheap for long now.

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 10:03

Syrian forces are moving fast toward Raqqa, Tal Madakhah liberated, the road to Tabqa airbase is just few kms away, as well as lots of oil & gas wells.

https://twitter.com/islamicworldupd/sta ... 4280833024

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 10:05

not entirely a bluff, they are trying to capture a small area in North west starting with turkish border with aleppo - jarablus - azaz - hasakah - qamishli - deir ez zor and across into anbar in Iraq.

then their pipeline dreams come into play again.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Feb 2016 10:11

Shanu wrote:Russians from Medvedev to Rogozin warning of a new World War.. and yet NATO blatantly sends troops to Eastern Europe in this scenario as if to say.. we want to provoke this war only. Is this their end game? Making Sunnis and Russians fight to extinction?

This is not the context or time when folks can/should trust western media (not even their basic claims):

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 14 Feb 2016 10:11

Rus may have moved Nukes to near black sea ports. 200 + km long military build up in Southern Parts. US has cautioned Turks against shelling Kurds, YPG, SDF and Regime forces as per

Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1 now5 hours ago
#Syria Washington, USA calls on #Ankara #Turkey to stop the bombardment of the #Kurds #YPG #TwitterKurds & "Regime" https://maktoob.news.yahoo.com/...

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 14 Feb 2016 10:23

people underestimate russia. a country with that much landmass cant survive without being ruthless. they tried, ussr >> russia. same is true of china and amrika. and should be true of india and brazil, although its not.

the whole russians cant use the toilet let alone fire a gun or fly a plane narrative is about to go out of the window.

for one, this vote is for sultan and salman to visit haggue. like that serbian due or the libyans.

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 10:25

saudi special forces have finished preparations to invade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90iXcg65mp0
&
https://twitter.com/Hamosh84/status/698510615200067584

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 14 Feb 2016 11:48

A weird sort of quiet in coverage all of a sudden....

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 14 Feb 2016 12:52

I won't be too worried about Saudi troops or air force we have seen how well they fought in Yemen , they are just good for nothing with shiny western toys