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abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 24 Dec 2010 12:59

26/11: Now India wants to quiz LeT men held in Pak

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/26-11 ... Pak/728660

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 24 Dec 2010 13:14

^^^never going to happen. Now that the TSP knows what India wants. It will never agree to it.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Dec 2010 15:04

Pratyush wrote:^^^never going to happen. Now that the TSP knows what India wants. It will never agree to it.

Pratyush, Pakistan is *never* going to prosecute anybody for 26/11, whether we make known our requirements or not. Look here for the farce of a trial that is going on in the Anti Terrorism Court. Besides, the way Pakistan has treated Prof. Hafeez Saeed saheb and his senior gang of terrorists, refusal to cooperate with India under one pretext or the other, hiding under the so-called laws of the land (which are bent and serenely flouted day-in-and-day-out otherwise), the rejection of all evidences furnished by India as insufficient, the collusion shown by the judiciary in scuttling the case, the open support to LeT/JuD by the Govt. of Punjab, the duplicity of the federal government in 'banning' JuD under the UN Resolution, and the warmth and reverence shown by the PA to Prof. Hafeez Saeed saheb simply show that we have reached a dead-end in the trial of 26/11 at least as far as the big fish go. The only option left for us now is to give TSP a long rope.

Let's see what excuse TSP offers to this request from GoI.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 24 Dec 2010 16:08

Let's see what excuse TSP offers to this request from GoI.

26/11 was a RSS conspirecy to kill Karkare. Diggy Raja has already prooved the same.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Dec 2010 08:34

India awaiting clarification on Pakistan panel

India is waiting for Pakistan to clarify on the extent and scope of a Judicial Commission it wants to send to take the statements of a Magistrate and Investigation Officers connected to the Mumbai terror attacks, government sources said.

The sources said India would convey its decision on allowing the Pakistan Judicial Commission to come to India based on clarifications provided by Pakistan on the exact purpose of its visit. “They have mentioned several things that the Judicial Commission wants to do in India. We have sought clarifications,” said the sources.

The missive seeking certain clarifications on the Pakistani proposal for sending a three-member Judicial Commission was sent on December 17. It also contained a proposal to send a Judicial Commission from India to Pakistan to examine the accused in the Mumbai attacks and get their voice samples.

On Thursday, Pakistan sent a note verbale reminding India of its request to send a Judicial Commission to Mumbai. It requested an early decision because the next hearing of the Mumbai attacks conspiracy case in Rawalpindi will take place on January 8. They expressed dismay over the slow pace of the trial in Rawalpindi. {The Pakistanis pre-empt by accusing India !!}

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 28 Dec 2010 11:44

RSS & 26/11: Digvijaya flags it off again, this time in Mumbai

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/rss-a ... ai/730077/

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 28 Dec 2010 14:25

*Deleted*, !#@#%$@#@@ .

Has he so sense of national Interests. Or he thinks that India is Kangress and Kangress is India.

%$%^&(((*(

Any way by equating Karkara with god for muslims. He has IMO comitted a blasphme. Making him Wajib e Quatal. I hope that some pure man frees us of Doggy raja.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 28 Dec 2010 14:41

Pratyush wrote:*Deleted*, !#@#%$@#@@ .

Has he so sense of national Interests. Or he thinks that India is Kangress and Kangress is India.

%$%^&(((*(

Any way by equating Karkara with god for muslims. He has IMO comitted a blasphme. Making him Wajib e Quatal. I hope that some pure man frees us of Doggy raja.

Wining elections somehow seems to be more important than national interest.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Dec 2010 16:30

abhishek_sharma wrote:RSS & 26/11: Digvijaya flags it off again, this time in Mumbai

I am now convinced that Digvijay Singh has been deliberately let loose on the 26/11 issue in order to divert nation's attention from the huge scams and protect the bigwigs. It is too obvious even for a naivete.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 28 Dec 2010 16:45

SS,

Doing so hurts the case of the nation against the TSP. What little hope remained of bringing the TSP to heal will now be lost. As the TSP can claim with justification now that it was an RSS consperecy.

How can the GOI defend its stance WRT TSP, now that the DS has been unleashed and is muddying the waters. Can the ROW not come back to them and state the even your own party has doubts regarding Lashkars involvement. Then please tell us why should we back Indian claims against the TSP?

Have they thought of this?

SS

I understand that the Forum rules don't allow for the language used by me. My apologies for the same. But please tell me how else to address this stupid action by the Congress.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 28 Dec 2010 17:07

SSridhar wrote: I am now convinced that Digvijay Singh has been deliberately let loose on the 26/11 issue in order to divert nation's attention from the huge scams and protect the bigwigs. It is too obvious even for a naivete.

What is even more unfortunate is that newspapers have not written anything significant on these remarks(or on Rahul Gandhi's statements). They have just blandly reported it. I have not seen any editorial criticizing them. Navbharat Times (Hindi) had one disapproving statement ("Congress is desperate."). The Hindustan Times (English) and Dainik Hindustan (Hindi) wrote nothing. The Indian Express did a reverse sweep and blamed BJP

. We know the modus operandi of people like Digvijay Singh and Azam Khan. But this nonchalance from newspapers is even more disappointing. I guess we should ask Niira Radia about it.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 28 Dec 2010 17:11

Perhaps Nira Radia could be hired as a PR consultant by the RSS

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Dec 2010 17:33

Pratyush wrote:SS

I understand that the Forum rules don't allow for the language used by me. My apologies for the same. But please tell me how else to address this stupid action by the Congress.

There are antonyms, phrases and other means by which the same can be couched in more acceptable terminology.

arun · Post by **arun** » 30 Dec 2010 07:46

X Posted.

aser wrote:Propublica on ISI , Mumbai attacks

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 30 Dec 2010 10:59

abhishek_sharma wrote:
SSridhar wrote: I am now convinced that Digvijay Singh has been deliberately let loose on the 26/11 issue in order to divert nation's attention from the huge scams and protect the bigwigs. It is too obvious even for a naivete.
What is even more unfortunate is that newspapers have not written anything significant on these remarks(or on Rahul Gandhi's statements). They have just blandly reported it. I have not seen any editorial criticizing them. Navbharat Times (Hindi) had one disapproving statement ("Congress is desperate."). The Hindustan Times (English) and Dainik Hindustan (Hindi) wrote nothing. The Indian Express did a reverse sweep and blamed BJP . We know the modus operandi of people like Digvijay Singh and Azam Khan. But this nonchalance from newspapers is even more disappointing. I guess we should ask Niira Radia about it.

How can anyone comment against the persons who are funding them and providing thier Bread and Butter?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Dec 2010 18:08

Pakistani Govt. to defend ISI Chief in US lawsuits

Pakistan says it will contest two US lawsuits that link its spy chief and his agency to the deadly 2008 attacks in Mumbai.

The Foreign Ministry’s statement Thursday shows how sensitive Islamabad is to allegations that its intelligence services were involved in the assault that killed 166 people in India.

The ministry said Pakistan will “fully and properly” defend ISI chief Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha against the accusations.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani has already said that Pasha cannot be made to testify in the New York civil lawsuits. He wants the cases dismissed.

Experts say such cases rarely succeed beyond being symbolic. Many international defendants claim immunity or don’t bother to respond.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 31 Dec 2010 05:13

No legal requirement for India to access 26/11 accused: Pak

Days after India proposed sending a panel to Islamabad to quiz LeT's Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi and other key accused in the Mumbai attacks, Pakistan on Thursday said there is no legal requirement for an Indian commission to be granted access to the terror suspects in this country.

"Whereas the visit of our judicial commission is a legal requirement in order to pursue the Mumbai attacks trial in Pakistan... we do not see any legal requirement as far as (the Indian proposal to send a commission to Pakistan) is concerned,"

India has said it wants to send a commission to question key terror suspects charged with involvement in the Mumbai attacks, including Lashker-e-Taiba operations commander Lakhvi. In a communication, India told Pakistan that it wants to send the panel to get voice samples of masterminds who directed the attackers in Mumbai.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 31 Dec 2010 05:49

^^^^

That is total 400% Paki obfuscation BS. By that logic, there is no legal requirement for the prosecution to carry out a thorough investigation. Pakis are making it appear as though the Indian commission is collecting further evidence against Kasab. It is not. The Indian commission is trying to unearth the role of other conspirators including Lakhvi.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 01 Jan 2011 17:39

Flashback 2008: One of the first media reports in Pakistan about Ajmal Kasab's true origin. Posted here for completion and archival purposes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQrI4WPTSUE

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 04 Jan 2011 09:46

Karkare did call, Digvijaya to show his phone records today

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/karka ... ay/732913/

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 04 Jan 2011 09:49

What Digvijaya lent weight to: Mumbai attacks an RSS, Mossad, CIA conspiracy

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/what- ... cy/732903/

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 04 Jan 2011 10:27

abhishek_sharma wrote:Karkare did call, Digvijaya to show his phone records today

Guess another poor joke. Karkara a senior police officer may have called Digvijaya Singh a politician on the given day. Unless the voice transcripts are made available, how does it confirm what Karkare actually told Digvijaya Singh??

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 04 Jan 2011 10:42

Sachin,

How can you question the veracity of the claim made by DS. Dont you know that all the phones of senior polititions are tapped. Wait for the tapped conversation to be leaked and you will have proof that the RSS staged 26/11.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 04 Jan 2011 11:57

abhishek_sharma wrote:What Digvijaya lent weight to: Mumbai attacks an RSS, Mossad, CIA conspiracy

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/what- ... cy/732903/

If Karkare did call then it raises more disturbing questions. What business did Karkare have in callign Digvijay Singh?? Does this mean all ATS are reporting and working according to what Digvijay Singh wants and not based on facts?? This is really disturbing.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 04 Jan 2011 15:52

Digvijay gives proof of conversation with Hemant Karkare

The question is why did Mr DS wait for 2 years brfore comming out in the open?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 04 Jan 2011 15:58

The more important question are all ATS's now running as per the whims and fancies of Digvijay singh and his proganda machine or based on facts. and why this is being disclosed all of a sudden?

what is Digvijay loco standi, why is he involved with the ATS? What about the other Terror cases such 2006 mumbai blasts, blasts in Indian cities during 2006-07, why is there no progress in these cases? Has Digvijay singh possibly guanrented safety to prepurtrators to gain politically?

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 04 Jan 2011 17:24

Ok.So CBI,an agency was misused.Now it is the time of PSU.BSNL.Also BSNL could dig up a 2 yr old record?Is it possible?Also a call from ATS office proves that Karkare called him to tell all this?Is there a voice transcript?Any constable could have called him to tell what was happening in Mumbai isint it.

Just wondering what is treated as proof in case of saffron terrorist and proof in Aarushi mureder case.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 04 Jan 2011 17:31

The question is why some one from ATS call Mr DS. That too for matters under investigation. If Karkare or someone else indeed made this call. Dosen't it show that the credibility of the ATS and Karkare to be nearly zero.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 04 Jan 2011 19:10

Along with all the questions raised above.
1. Was there a voice recording provided? Hemant Karkare could even have called up Digvijaya Singh to see if he had his dinner? Or it could be the sentry at ATS who made the call.
2. Secondly BSNL comes up with call record which is 2 years old. Why should any one take this at face value?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Jan 2011 22:00

Granted that the call was made from the ATS office but doesnt it show the mispalced priorities when the City had prior alerts from the Center on terrorist attacks and the Taj etc were on alert and screening guests? And the ATS the prime agency to fight the terrorists is chasing ghosts!

Also could this call have distracted Sri Karkare into thinking 26/11 attack was mere local attack? And thus lulled him into the ambush by Kasab and his cohort?

Did Digvijay also talk to DIG Ghafoor and scare him into thinking its Hindu terrorists?

I don't understand how come the Commission did not call Digvijay Singh to get him on record when it investigated the 26/11 attack?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 04 Jan 2011 22:08

The problem is that once some news worthy event happens, like the 26/11, all sorts of netas begin calling up the people in charge to harass them with their petty little egos.

More likely Digvijay Singh was one of those callers, calling up to only disturb the due course of the law.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Jan 2011 22:10

In this case he might have misguided Karkare and needs further investigation.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 04 Jan 2011 22:12

ramana - i seem to recall that mumbai police initially thought it was a gangland event and that might have explained early police actions and movements, including karkare 'rushing to the spot'. it now appears that kasab and co., got spectacularly lucky (originally i had suspected a targeted hit, but everything i have subsequently seen points to luck)

i guess that the LET/ISI pulled off a strategic surprise with this event

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Jan 2011 22:23

LM, There is no such thing as luck. The whole handling of the attack is a complete failure of command.

In the KRC report review in BRM(archives) I used a spread sheet on factors for surprise and you can go back and use same methodlogy and see the failures. I didnt want to post it as it as the jury is not out yet on the whole event.

To put it in a Chinese saying "When you point a finger three of them are at yourself"
And I add the thumb is upward to wards God/Chance or bad luck.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 04 Jan 2011 22:29

Gagan wrote:The problem is that once some news worthy event happens, like the 26/11, all sorts of netas begin calling up the people in charge to harass them with their petty little egos.

More likely Digvijay Singh was one of those callers, calling up to only disturb the due course of the law.

The call was made at 5:44pm about 4 hours before the attacks started....So the news was not yet out.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 04 Jan 2011 22:33

i dont disagree with 'failure of command'
but part of it came from complacency about normal operating procedures/habits

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 05 Jan 2011 10:53

Lalmohan wrote:i seem to recall that mumbai police initially thought it was a gangland event and that might have explained early police actions and movements,

+1. Yes, infact this also seems to be the reason why Vijay Salaskar etc. just swooped down on the scene. Salaskar et. al could have handled the gang land gimmicks quite neatly, and perhaps they came in with that (over) confidence. Only later down the line that the police realised that this was way bigger than gang members going at each other

.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Jan 2011 11:00

Comment in Ind Exp on the Diggy's 'proof' of call to late Karkare

Gaurav Bhandia (Jaipur)
1 hr ago (09:41 AM)
I think digvijay singh's lie is proved by him only. Earlier he claimed that Mr karkare gave him a call to let him know about threats from saffron parties but now the details of supposedly call shows that the call was made by Mr digvijay singh. And whether he talked to Mr karkare or was just on hold for 6 min is a matter of probe.

Read more: Digvijay produces proof of call to Karkare - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... z1A8b9Et6A

I too recall the origianl claim was Sri Karkare called up Diggy and not other way round!

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 05 Jan 2011 15:39

Thai passports ring: Pak man had LeT link http://www.indianexpress.com/news/thai- ... nk/733492/

THAI police said on Tuesday that a Pakistani man detained a month ago has confessed to working with an international ring that is believed to have provided forged passports to Lashkar-e-Toiba, which is blamed for the Madrid and Mumbai terror attacks.

In November, police arrested seven people in Spain and three in Thailand, including two Pakistanis and one Thai, as part of an ongoing operation against the forgery group. The suspects allegedly stole passports from tourists in Spain and sent them to Thailand to be doctored and later distributed to Lashkar-e-Toiba. They may also have sent documents to the perpetrators of the 2004 bombings of Madrid’s commuter trains.

Last week, 36-year-old Ghulam Rasool became the fourth person arrested in Thailand as part of the investigation.

Rasool was arrested in Bangkok on December 1 on charges of illegal entry to Thailand, pending a more thorough investigation that included a raid of the Bangkok apartment used as a base by the other three people arrested, said Songsak Raksakul, an official with the Department of Special Investigations. At the apartment, police found items used to produce fake documents such as passports, entry-exit stamps, and visa stickers.

DNA and fingerprint tests collected at the apartment could be traced to Rasool, who subsequently confessed to using Photoshop to make fake pictures for the forged passports, said Songsak.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Jan 2011 22:21

This above reprot is a red herring. The 26/11 terrorists came by ship from Karachi and then enetered India by a fishing boat. They did not need passports. So what is this bogus thing? It was sucide attack with fake id cards and all that. Where is the passports for foram entry and exit involved?