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A dose of truth:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/LD21Df01.html
The number of Chinese companies in Pakistan has plummeted to about 60, involved in 122 projects, from about 145 private businesses in 2003.
Pakistani authorities have detected extensive massive misuse of the FTAs signed between the countries, involving importers who submit wrong "certificates of origin" to clear non-Chinese made goods from Pakistani ports. The extent of this misuse has yet to be determined.
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Kayani escapes Taliban rocket attack
Pakistan army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Tuesday escaped an attempt on his life when Taliban militants fired rockets at an area in South Waziristan tribal agency shortly after his visit to the troubled region. The militants fired at least four rockets in Laddha area as soon Kayani left the


area, Geo News reported.
A media team covering the army chief's visit had to hide in a bunker.

No casualties were reported in the incident.

Soon after the attack, security personnel retaliated with gunfire, the channel reported.

There was no official word on the incident.
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^^^ the jarnails entourage were seen shivering in their dhotis in a narrow dark bunker?
what you are saying?!??!
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Salwars biradher, they were shivering in their brown salwars (err, which weren't brown to begin with...)
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Fakes, just want to show that even his life is in danger
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Point #1 to be noted: The good Jernail was probably miles away when some ISI Kernail gave the signal to the talibs to begin the fireworks.

Point #2 to be noted: The Journalists were there to witness first hand the fireworks, and they had to hide in bunkers and soil their salwars.

1+2= That is one certified 'attempt against his life' badge to add to the list of accomplishments of Kayani. But as I see it, Mushy had at least 3 to his credit, so Kiyani has some way to go to climb the sympathy ladder in the west.
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Gagan wrote:Point #1 to be noted: The good Jernail was probably miles away when some ISI Kernail gave the signal to the talibs to begin the fireworks.

Point #2 to be noted: The Journalists were there to witness first hand the fireworks, and they had to hide in bunkers and soil their salwars.

1+2= That is one certified 'attempt against his life' badge to add to the list of accomplishments of Kayani. But as I see it, Mushy had at least 3 to his credit, so Kiyani has some way to go to climb the sympathy ladder in the west.
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Absolutely. Fake attack.
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X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread.

The UK’s Telegraph on French President Nicolas Sarkozy taking the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to task for fomenting IT, not the IT of the Information Technology but rather of the Islamic Terrorism variety, around the world.

That this was said in India is going to be particularly irksome to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan :lol: :
Nicolas Sarkozy launches attack on Pakistan over terrorist safe havens

Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, launched a fierce attack on Pakistan during his visit to India, accusing Islamabad of allowing terrorist groups to form safe havens in its territory.

Dean Nelson in New Delhi 2:21PM GMT 07 Dec 2010

Mr Sarkozy said terrorist groups were free to launch attacks on India and Nato troops in Afghanistan from Pakistan. …………………..

He said: "It is unacceptable that India's security can be threatened by groups of terrorists acting from neighbouring countries.

"It is unacceptable for Afghanistan and for our troops that the Taliban and al-Qaeda find safe haven in the border regions of Pakistan. We know the price that the Pakistani people are paying for terrorism. But it is unacceptable for the world that terrorist acts should be masterminded and carried out by terrorist groups in Pakistan," he said.

The Pakistani authorities must "step up their efforts and show that they are resolute in combating these criminals," he added, and pledged unlimited counter-terrorist co-operation with India. ………………….

Telegraph
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Pakistan not off the hook in concession seeking: EU gives fresh assurance
ISLAMABAD (December 07, 2010) : Pakistan is not off the hook in concession-seeking efforts as European Union has formally conveyed to Islamabad that its case to get waiver for a concessional tariff regime from its member countries will again be presented to the World Trade Organisation (WTO) in March 2011.The officials in Islamabad seem little bit consoled and relieved after getting the new assurance from EU for keeping their hopes alive for getting some preferential treatment in the near future to help Pakistani exporters get more share and subsequently supplement the government's efforts to enhance export to that market.EU had presented Pakistan's case to WTO on November 29, for one-time waiver for concessional treatment for 75 key exportable items to the EU market on the ground that in post July 2010 flood the country deserves special concessions to steer its weakening economy out of current difficult phase, but it did not go through due to India's strong opposition. This development dashed Pakistan's hope to get special concessional for its some key sectors such as textile and value added which contribute to is exports to the EU. The officials here in Islamabad had calculated benefit in monetary terms to Pakistan of one-time waiver for concessional regime for 75 items roughly $900 million. This could also help Pakistan take its case for similar concessions from other key trade partners like Japan and USA.


http://www.businessrecorder.com/news/to ... rance.html
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Development and inequality: the case of South Asia —Hasso na Gadha eh zee
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_2
( This Poakna admit caste is stronger that revealed ideology. Tainu Prof kinne banaya Poakni diya )
While the factors singled out in such explanations have no doubt contributed to the dismal record of economic and social development in South Asia, I would suggest that there is yet another and more fundamental impediment to material progress in the region. This impediment consists of the uniquely South Asian phenomenon of structural inequality built into the fabric of the entire subcontinental society. Although the mainstream social science literature on development bypasses this deep-rooted structural feature of the subcontinental South Asian society, it is well recognised in the writings of politically active intellectuals and socially conscious academics, particularly those who have lived and worked in any of the south Asian countries.
It is significant to note that Jawaharlal Nehru was strongly convinced that India will never be genuinely free unless its leaders addressed the country’s age-old problem of inequality going back to Vedic times. In his 1929 presidential address to the Lahore session of the Indian National Congress he observed, “Great as was the success of India in evolving a stable society, she failed in a vital particular, and because she failed in this, she fell and remains fallen. No solution was found for the problem of inequality. India deliberately ignored this and built up its social structure on inequality.”
That structural inequality observed by Nehru was obviously a reference to the unique caste system of the subcontinent, which, combined with the evolving class system of the urbanising industrial cities, remains pervasive and heavily in place even today. After independence Indian legislators placed certain clauses in the preamble of the constitution prohibiting discrimination on the basis of caste, but this remains no more than a paper declaration. In Pakistan the existence of the caste system is altogether denied on the ground that in its philosophical rationale and ritual practices it is a distinctly Hindu institution. However, it is impossible to visualise Muslims of the subcontinent in isolation from their Hindu ancestral and cultural heritage, the people with whom they have lived in close contact for centuries.
The building blocks of the caste system of inequality — the hereditary division of labour, the zaat endogamy, restrictions on intermixing, and status hierarchies — are as well established and strong in Muslim Pakistan as in Hindu India. There is also the matter of retribution for crossing the caste boundaries illustrated so poignantly in the now world-famous case of Mukhtaran Mai. A young woman of
Pakistan’s southern Punjab village belonging to the lower kami zaat, Mukhtaran was gang-raped by upper zaat Mastoi men because they suspected her brother to be consorting with a girl of their lineage. I have no systematic data but it will be no surprise if beliefs in caste superiority are also behind the increasing incidence of honour killings in Pakistan as the traditional patterns of gender segregation becomes less practical to enforce under changing economic and demographic pressures.
The writer is Professor Emeritus of Poakology, Sociology and Anthropology at Algoma University, Canada. He can be reached at [email protected]
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Sarkozy slams Pakistan as he marks Mumbai attacks

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101207/wl ... 1207151850

The Gauls have tasted and countered islamic terrorism, long before Khan got a taste for it. Hopefully something good cooperation will emerge during this visit.
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A letter in DT
Indo-Pak talks

Sir: I am writing in reference to Dr Hasan-Askari Rizvi’s article, ‘Countering terrorism through Indo-Pak talks’ (Daily Times, December 5, 2010). He has brought forth several debatable points.

One, that India’s so-called coercive diplomacy after the 2001 Indian parliament attack failed to produce the desired results for India. On the contrary, it did induce quite a few important changes in Pakistan. General Musharraf gave a solemn assurance, not only to India, but also to the world community, in an address that was telecast on January 12, 2002, where he said that Pakistani soil would not be used for terrorist attacks against India. On the same day, Pakistan did declare Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and Jaish-e-Mohammed as banned terrorist organisations. These were the two terrorist outfits that jointly executed the Indian parliament attack.

Two, India once again moved its troops to the border after the 26/11 Mumbai attacks in 2008. Indian troops were never moved after 26/11 because India decided to use other approaches to mount pressure on Pakistan especially since nationals from the US and other western countries were also massacred in the attacks. The recent WikiLeaks documents also confirm this fact.

Three, the equation between the Indian insistence on Pakistani action against terrorism and Pakistan’s single-minded obsession with Kashmir bears looking at. Terrorism, especially as a state policy, is universally condemned. Again, while courts of law may understandably take their own time due to procedural reasons, it is India’s perception that the Pakistani establishment is less than purposeful in engaging with India on the terrorism issue. Therefore, when one equates the resolution of the Kashmir issue with terrorism, it seems to connote that unless the Kashmir issue is resolved, terror will continue.
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Begging continues
SUMMARY: On May 26, Codel Schiff — US Representatives Adam Schiff and Allyson Schwartz — met Pakistan People`s Party (PPP) Co-Chairman Asif Zardari, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, NSA Ambassador Mahmud Ali Durrani and Ambassador-designate to the US Husain Haqqani. {Bunch of High profile pakistani beggers}

Zardari thanked the Codel for USG (US government) support of credible national elections. As he has previously, he committed Pakistan to the war on terror, insisting this was Pakistans fight. He argued more needed to be done by the US and international community to promote economic development in the Frontier (Province).

Building on that point, Zardari suggested a new blend of USG assistance, increasing aid
to “civilian forces” like the police and promoting civilian engagement.
Zardari advocated attacking the root cause of radical insurgency: economic under-development. He lobbied the Representatives to quickly take up and pass reconstruction opportunity zone (ROZ) legislation. There should be US tax breaks for companies producing “made in Pakistan products, noting that Pakistans textile industry would be more competition to other countries than to US manufacturers.

Without creating more jobs, Pakistan just could not match the Taliban`s reported USD 300 per month to tribals in the frontier regions. :lol:

He quickly added that military aid was still badly needed but more should also go to “civilian forces”, e.g., police.

USG assistance should support social development, e.g., more higher education scholarships to Pakistanis studying in the US All in all, he wanted to see more civilian engagement than military-to-military exchanges.

Zardari also said he wanted the UN (with support from the US and other western countries) to establish a compensatory fund for the families of the victims of terrorist acts.
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TTP blow up Girls' school in Peshawar

TTP making a come back to Peshawar. They have already started reappearing in Swat.
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Narad wrote:Begging continues
More begging, this time for duty free access to US markets
Pakistan needs greater trade access in the USA and EU markets in order to fight against terrorism, joblessness and corruption, said Javed Chinoy, Chairman Pakistan Readymade Garments Manufacturers and Exporters Association. “If we can overcome and win these internal wars, external threats will be much easier to handle and win, which will be beneficial for the whole world,” he said while speaking at the Career Development Centre for garment industry at Pakistan Readymade Garments Technical Institute facilitated by USAID.

He said the programme for skill training of garment units’ workers by USAID would be a milestone towards getting better price and quality of Pakistani products in the world markets. He argued small steps such as EU’s diluted duty free access {Suddenly, earlier response to begging have become small steps. BTW, why does a Pakistani think that the rest of the world is dutybound to provide them all sorts of assistance even as they go about unleashing terrorism all over the world ?} or the ROZs scheme would not be sufficient. These ROZs are designated in areas where even the senior government officials and ministers are not willing to go. {That was exactly the point. This Paki is trying to turn the concept of ROZ on its head. The very reason for ROZ to be located in FATA is to give them employment as demanded by Pakistan !} “What we need is to bring these ROZs and trade and duty concessions that go along with it to the cities {that is a back door approach for concessions beyond agreed} , where these unemployed and trained youth will be available. Even if Pakistan’s total value added exports to USA gets doubled due to this — from $4 billion to $8.00 — which is highly unlikely in the short run as we neither have the capacities to make it nor the trained human resource to handle it, the total duty impact to USA would be only $640 million.
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Blast kills at least 15 people in market in Kohat in Pakistan's northwest.
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^^^
KOHAT: A bomb in a market in a town in northwest Pakistan killed at least 12 people on Wednesday, police said.

Twenty people were also injured in the attack which took place in the crowded Tirah Bazaar.

It was planted in a small passenger bus parked at a bus stand, said police official Mohammad Jehangir, citing initial reports.

Television channels said the attack may have been carried out by a suicide bomber.
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^^Congratulations and much kudos for Sakozy for speaking the truth as it is. The time for kid gloves is long gone.
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shravan wrote:Blast kills at least 15 people in market in Kohat in Pakistan's northwest.
My best compliments to the iedia of Pakistan
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SS, I've added your links on pak admission of terror as state policy in opening post. please check and edit as required.
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Good taliban :mrgreen:
ajit_tr wrote:Kayani escapes Taliban rocket attack
Pakistan army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Tuesday escaped an attempt on his life when Taliban militants fired rockets at an area in South Waziristan tribal agency shortly after his visit :roll: to the troubled region. The militants fired at least four rockets in Laddha area as soon Kayani left the area, Geo News reported.
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If they attacked after he left , then how come they are saying he escaped an attempt on his life?
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as soon as HSS Kiyani left the scene, his do nambari called taliban chacha and said "goli maro!"
taliban chacha called bhanja and said "RPG phyrr!"
diwali was celebrated
proving it was bad taliban supported by yindia
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Kayani was quoted as approving Gadari over Ganja and hence Ganja's men as asking him to clarify and come clean?

BTW: What happens when you combine soosai bumers with wikileaks?

You get soosooleak. :rotfl:
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AQ Khan is a RAW agent :mrgreen:


ISI is a rogue agency: Pakistani nuclear scientist
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_is ... st_1478483
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Rahul M wrote:SS, I've added your links on pak admission of terror as state policy in opening post. please check and edit as required.
Rahul, thanks. The Bush warning link is not working, though the link url is correct. May be, the story has been removed.
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From next year I want a new thread prompted by shiv's title

Iedia of TSP where we collate all the reports of IEDs in TSP in one place and not just in this thread where we lose the picture.
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ramana wrote:From next year I want a new thread prompted by shiv's title

Iedia of TSP where we collate all the reports of IEDs in TSP in one place and not just in this thread where we lose the picture.
You mean IEDia of TSP? (notice the CAPS!)
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Yes.
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Err,
Was this posted before?
The victorious Pak fauj in battle with the Taliban
First: The surrendered Taliban fighters.
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More surrendered Taliban fighters
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Now: The victorious Pak Fauj...enjoy.
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I dunno, but the surrendered taliban fighter in the second picture looks central asian. one of those uzbeks?
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Looks like even beards can not save TSP army from the good Taliban!!!
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Gagan - is there a source url or story associated with those photos?
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One can clearly see an overwhelming sense of fear in the faces the victorious Army.
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Whats with them covering those faces? Dont even look like talibans to me.
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Baluch regiment?
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what unit?

If these are not SSG or one of the mujahid type groups or officers - I do feel sorry for them and would not gloat over them.

hard to fault simple soldiers

the mofo officers of the Puki army and the SSG maniacs who love torture - I want them to suffer
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Also the weapons. Dont look like standard Ak-47 that they usually use.
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Surya, regular foot soldiers are 'Pakbarians' too. Don't forget how they gleefully massacred those pashtun kids and repeatedly pumped bullets without a hint of hesitation or remorse.I am sorry but it impossible for me to sympathies with these animals.
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