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chetak wrote:Can India and Pakistan make Peace !

chetak wrote:

ramana wrote:LA Times:

Pak denies having fired first

Must be takiaya on afterburners. Playing the victim to the hilt!

The pakis just need to convince their own population which is already used to playing the victim!

If not the US, then it's zionists, if not then it's jealous SDRE yindoos.

Its always a conspiracy against the faithfools.

saptarishi wrote: IF ANYone here ever attended pakistan defene forum,he would know how the porkis act..their public always acts as if indians are aggressors...its their army and government which projects this thing .most pakistanis still think they won 1965,1971 and 1999 wars..very funny..last night i was banned FROM pdf for trolling and flaming,,only because i said one thing,,that 90000 thousand soldiers surrendered without fight in east pakistan.....ignorance is a bliss and it is true for porkis

RamaY wrote:

chetak wrote:Can India and Pakistan make Peace !

YES! On the ruins of Pakistan

shravan wrote:Porkis have uploaded the liveleaktaliban attack video as Nato attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZaJvoAFlbM

archan wrote:

saptarishi wrote: IF ANYone here ever attended pakistan defene forum,he would know how the porkis act..their public always acts as if indians are aggressors...its their army and government which projects this thing .most pakistanis still think they won 1965,1971 and 1999 wars..very funny..last night i was banned FROM pdf for trolling and flaming,,only because i said one thing,,that 90000 thousand soldiers surrendered without fight in east pakistan.....ignorance is a bliss and it is true for porkis

There is a PM in your inbox and a response waiting for you here.

Ab khoon ka badla khoon hoga, Baniya ka khoon bahayenge

AnantD wrote:

Posted by CRamS:


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Boss, at least US slaughtered TSPA (not sure they were all TFTA though ) in cold blood.


Where do you get the "cold blood" part? ...... so why unnecessary villify the US when it is not due.

Not vilifying, but praising. Weak, gutless, spineless India dare not kill TSPA in cold blood, while strong, white, superpower USA does so. Little monkey India should mimic giant gorilla USA, because there in only one way to be a superpower, and that is to follow American example, etc., etc..

BBC headline on 30 Sept 2010: Nato helicopters kill two Pakistani soldiers, prompting nearly two-week border closure in protest.

Rangudu wrote:Saw this on twitter. Someone had recorded part of a recent rally by pigLeTs that included a song with the lyrics:

Ab khoon ka badla khoon hoga, Baniya ka khoon bahayenge

Audio can be heard here

I don't think this is in cold blood, so why unnecessary villify the US when it is not due.

Not vilifying, but praising. Weak, gutless, spineless India dare not kill TSPA in cold blood, while strong, white, superpower USA does so. Little monkey India should mimic giant gorilla USA, because there in only one way to be a superpower, and that is to follow American example, etc., etc..

In its 2011 Arab Public Opinion Poll published on Nov 21, the Brookings Institution in Washington wrote: “Turkey is the biggest winner of the Arab Spring. In the five countries polled, Turkey is seen to have played the ‘most constructive’ role in the Arab events. Its Prime Minister, Recep Erdogan, is the most admired among world leaders and those who envision a new President for Egypt want the new President to look most like Erdogan. Egyptians want their country to look more like Turkey than any of the other Muslim, Arab and other choices provided.”My choice for #2 was actually ranked sixth — Emir of Qatar Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani. The Muslim 500 spells out its reasons for saying his influence rose during the Arab Spring in a description so clear that should have merited him the second spot. It said the emir “has driven much of the Arab Spring through the coverage given by Al-Jazeera, the financial support given to protesters and political support to Libya. He is arguably the biggest enabler of the Arab Spring.” The entry on him also notes that Qatar had jet fighters flying with NATO to enforce the no-fly zone over Libya and also won the 2022 soccer World Cup.

Foreign Minister Hi Naa Rabba Naa Khar on Sunday telephoned her US counterpart Hillary Clinton to convey Pakistan's "deep sense of rage" over cross-border NATO air strikes saying it violated Pakistan's sauveriginty.Khar said that attacks like Saturday's strike on military outposts that left at least 24 Pakistani soldiers dead were "totally unacceptable" as they contravened international law, negation of Pak-US relations and forced Pakistan to reconsider its relations with the United States.The Pakistani minister spoke to Clinton in the early hours of Sunday to inform her of decisions made by the Defence Committee of the Cabinet including blocking NATO supply routes and closure of the Shamsi airbase, the Foreign Office said in a statement."The foreign minister conveyed to the secretary of state, the deep sense of rage felt across Pakistan at the senseless loss of 24 soldiers due to Nato/Isaf attack on the Pakistani post," it said.
Khar said "such Jhatkas are totally unacceptable. They demonstrate complete disregard for international law and human life, and are in stark violation of Pakistani sauverignty"."This negates the progress made by the two countries on improving relations and forces Pakistan to revisit the terms of engagement," Khar added.

chetak wrote:Can India and Pakistan make Peace !

Friday, November 25, 2011
Can India and Pakistan make Peace !
By Major (Retired)Agha .H. Amin, Pakistan Army./quote]

ramana wrote:NATO pounding for two hours means the Fizzleya and TSPA were sitting tight and conniving with the attackers like in Abortabad non-response. No wonder there is talk of subaltern's coup and what not.

saip wrote:The link of the old video was posted by Shravan. Here is the link again and it is dated Nov 16.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=43b_1321496997

Pakistani government has taken the following actions:

• Closed NATO's supply lines through both the Khyber Pass and Chaman border crossings. An estimated 50 percent of ISAF's supplies are moved via these two crossings.
• Ordered the US to vacate Shamsi Air Base in Baluchistan province. The base is used by the CIA to carry out Predator and Reaper drone strikes against al Qaeda, the Taliban, the Haqqani Network, and other terror groups operating in North and South Waziristan.
• Ordered a review of its ties with the United States and its cooperation in hunting al Qaeda and other terror groups on Pakistani soil.

Oddly enough, these actions correspond closely with the Pakistani Taliban's demands for implementing a peace deal with the government.

FM Lavrov condemns NATO air attack on Pakistan checkpoints

Nov 29, 2011 00:19 Moscow Time

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has called for an investigation into the NATO cross-border attack on Pakistan’s checkpoints. In a telephone conversation with Foreign Minister of Pakistan, Hina Rabbani Khar, he emphasized the inadmissibility of violating sovereignty of states, including when planning and conducting counterterrorism operations, says a Foreign Ministry statement………………..

The Voice of Russia

arun wrote:Interesting.

So is there a message from our Russian friends that a cross-border strike by India to neutralise Pakistani sponsored Islamic Terrorism will not be supported by Russia?.

And a message from Russia to the US not to take the Northern resupply route into Afghanistan for granted?

arun wrote:Interesting.

So is there a message from our Russian friends that a cross-border strike by India to neutralise Pakistani sponsored Islamic Terrorism will not be supported by Russia?.

And a message from Russia to the US not to take the Northern resupply route into Afghanistan for granted?:

FM Lavrov condemns NATO air attack on Pakistan checkpoints

Nov 29, 2011 00:19 Moscow Time

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has called for an investigation into the NATO cross-border attack on Pakistan’s checkpoints. In a telephone conversation with Foreign Minister of Pakistan, Hina Rabbani Khar, he emphasized the inadmissibility of violating sovereignty of states, including when planning and conducting counterterrorism operations, says a Foreign Ministry statement………………..

The Voice of Russia

the inadmissibility of violating sovereignty of states, including (but not only) when planning and conducting counterterrorism operations

Afghans say commando unit was attacked before airstrike was called on Pakistan

Both sides said they believed they were attacking insurgents along the border. A senior Pakistani defense official acknowledged that Pakistani troops fired first, sending a flare, followed by mortar and machine-gun fire, toward what he said was “suspicious activity” in the brush-covered area below their high-altitude outpost barely 500 yards from the border.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/afg ... story.html

Administration and U.S. defense officials raised the possibility of a different set of circumstances but declined to elaborate.

China's comments were the product of a 40-minute conversation between the Chinese foreign minister, Yang Jiechi, and his opposite number in Pakistan, Hina Rabbani Khar. After the exchange, the Chinese foreign ministry said that "China is deeply shocked by these events, and expresses strong concern for the victims and profound condolences to Pakistan".A foreign ministry spokesman added: "China believes that Pakistan's independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity should be respected and the incident should be thoroughly investigated and be handled properly."The Chinese intervention carries a significance beyond the immediate dispute. Islamabad considers Beijing to be its closest ally and an alternative partner to the west, while both governments oppose US plans to have bases in Afghanistan beyond the 2014 date for ending the coalition's combat operations there.Coincidentally, Pakistan and China began a joint military exercise in Punjab province involving about 500 soldiers and designed to show, as the Pakistan army put it, that the "Pakistan-China friendship is higher than the mountains and deeper than oceans". It was the fourth military collaboration between the two countries since 2004.The official, who did not want to be named, added: "The Pakistanis are blowing this thing totally out of proportion by responding the way they have, so severely and strongly. But we hope that they will at least come to Bonn and it will not affect the steps that we have started to take in terms of rebuilding our relationship with Pakistan."
Afghan and coalition officials have accused Pakistan repeatedly in the past of failing to act to stop Taliban militants using its territory.Afghans living in Kunar said they were delighted by the airstrike against the bases, saying they believed Taliban fighters were being harboured by the Pakistani army."These terrorists wear civilian clothes and then when they have done their attacks in Afghanistan they go to the Pakistan checkpoints," said Qari Ehsanullah Ehsan, a tribal leader from the province. "Some of them wear fake beards and then put on Pakistani military clothes when they finish their operations. The people of Kunar are happy. We have been telling the Americans for a long time that the Pakistanis are bringing the Taliban to our villages."

President Asif Ali Zardari in meeting with UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah Bin Zeyed Al- Nahyan in Islamabad.—APP

ISLAMABAD: The United Arab Emirates has dived into troubled Pakistan-US ties in a desperate effort to prevent them from unravelling and avert an immediate eviction of the Americans from the Shamsi airbase whose control they enjoy.

UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan arrived in Islamabad on Monday on an unscheduled trip and met President Asif Ali Zardari and Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.

In both meetings, the UAE minister pleaded against pushing too hard for getting the airbase vacated.

During his meeting with Sheikh Nahyan in the Presidency, President Zardari is reported to have turned down a UAE request to extend the 15-day deadline set by the Defence Committee of the Cabinet for vacating the airbase in Balochistan.

“The one-on-one meeting of the UAE foreign minister with the president was followed by a delegation-level meeting,” Mr Zardari`s spokesman Farhatullah Babar said.

According to media reports, Pakistan handed over the Shamsi airbase to the UAE in 1992 for hunting expeditions, but its authorities sublet it to the US for carrying out drone attacks.

The UAE delegation was apprised of the DCC decision, which also stopped Nato supplies passing through Pakistan into Afghanistan.

A statement issued by the ISPR said: “The visiting dignitary (Sheikh Nahyan) remained with the COAS (Gen Kayani) for some time and discussed matters of mutual interest.”

Besides strong diplomatic ties with Pakistan, the UAE has strong influence in Islamabad`s corridors of power. President Zardari is known for being too close to its royal family and WikiLeaks last year confirmed that perception.

According to one of the leaked cables, Mr Zardari had requested UAE President Sheikh Khalifa to allow his family to live in the Emirates in the event of his death.

The military also has strong relations with the UAE. It was at Gen Kayani`s request that the UAE government had last year launched quick impact projects in Swat.

Some analysts believe that in view of the kind of influence the Emirates enjoy in Islamabad it would be `very difficult` for the Pakistani leadership to say `no` to them.