2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

[chetak]

[SRajesh]

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Mamata in trouble - Singhvi & Sibal lawyers
DKS in trouble - Singhvi
Chidu in trouble - Singhvi & Sibal
K Nath's nephew - Singhvi
HDK's govt in trouble - Singhvi
Lalu wants bail - Sibal
Rahul in trouble - Singhvi.
Sonia in trouble - Singhvi & Sibal
Vadra in trouble - Singhvi!

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10 years back our company had engaged him for some case. He was charging Rs 27 lakhs per appearance. He had to be provided with two Merc cars to attend SC (one normal and another as standby). Don't know how much he charges now.

10:32 AM - 17 Sep 2019

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... FyDxpKzOK5
Any half decent democracy 'a man literally caught with his pants down!!' would have taken sanyas from active politics
Here onlee we have gentleman receiving 'fellatio' caught on tape goes about defending all and sundry and every opportunity he gets starts spouting morality/decency/yadi-yadi
The Baboos and the ruling elite should be shown a mirror to seriously look at themselves and their shenanigans when they hold public offices etc.

[pankajs]

DK Shivkumar finally in Tihar jail. Till date he had successfully evaded jail on health grounds.

Chiddu's jail stay extended.

[pankajs]

After meeting Modi now this. Mumtaz Banoo ji is worried about something.

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1174594318469758977

ANI @ANI

Delhi: Chief Minister of West Bengal, Mamata Banerjee meets Union Home Minister Amit Shah.

[Sachin]

DK Shivkumar finally in Tihar jail. Till date he had successfully evaded jail on health grounds.

If Chidu and he are in adjacent cells, critical Congress party meetings can be held in Tihar jail premises. So.Ga, Ra.Ga and other INC stalwarts can take visitor's pass and join them. Some of them may also like to see the prison complex, as they may also soon land up there.

After meeting Modi now this. Mumtaz Banoo ji is worried about something.

This was a woman who had hollered that she will never meet Modi again as she does not believe that he will be the PM again. She only wanted to meet a "new" PM. This visit is critical, especially considering that her favourite IPS protege is now absconding after knowing that CBI is quickly homing in on him. Sarada Chit fund scam, with Amit Shah being the new home minister. Not a very comfortable situation to be in.

[Skanda]

After meeting Modi now this. Mumtaz Banoo ji is worried about something.

Her body posture actually displays that. Amit is calm, at ease with arm and legs spread out. Mamatha is wrapping herself with her own arms. Clearly, the picture shows who is in control and who is not.

[Suraj]

A larger police force as it stands today would involve increasing the strength of state police forces, which I disagree with because of its current structure as tied to politicians in a state.

No, despite repeated suggestions from more than one person, my comment is not about 'more of the same'. The need for a more substantial police force, and the replacement of the IPS & IPC with a more modern police service and police code. If we both agree that the current IPS/IPC are problems, then it should be logical to consider that no one is going to advocate solving a problem by making it a bigger one. So please don't assume that's what I'm arguing, because it doesn't make basic sense.

1. A national highway police that is not a state level entity would be part of the Central Industrial Security Force (CISF) which protects infrastructure throughout India. However, funding for an additional wing for highways would be quite costly. At this time I don't see the budget for it.

As with the above, one cannot fix a problem by adding additional responsibilities in the hands of an entity that's already overburdened. Part of the problem of funding is that our fine structure is WAY behind inflation. I wouldn't be surprised if people actually set aside a budget for the tiny amounts they used to pay as fines for certain infractions.

2. Crimes committed across state boundaries are covered by the CBI and again to strengthen the CBI would involve more funding.

The CBI doesn't have the remit to pursue any kind of crime, and as far as I know it cannot automatically take over an investigation across state boundaries - there are procedures and paperwork involved beginning with a request from the state, all of which breaks down the speed of accomplishing an investigation, politicizes it, and more. These decisions should be simple and statutory in basis, and not decided by discretionary acts, either on the part of central or state governments.

Despite all the bad stuff we may read, the people of India are kind hearted. Killing and violence is inimical to their ethos. Could you imagine if per capita income levels were to drop in the US or other western countries? They would rob, rape, and murder like there was no tomorrow (several US states are open weapon carry states). India is not a police state and doesn't need to be. As you stated, which I bolded in your quote, and to paraphrase what Rahul Mehta had said in the past, strengthening the court system and quickly adjudicating cases will cost much less than extending police forces and yield better results for law and order.

Once again, I think people do not quite consider the data out there. Large police force is NOT the same as 'police state', the same way it's not the same as arguing for a larger IPS.

Germany (and most other EU) has far more police per capita than India and even the US/Mexico/Central America - I quoted data above, freely available off wikipedia or elsewhere. They are hardly visible, any by no stretch of imagination would one consider Austria or Germany a police state. The police serve to ensure that the system runs smoothly - including ensuring that every simple task isn't passed to the overburdened judiciary system.

A working system involves a new civil and criminal code with a civil law basis (i.e. most things already covered by statutes as opposed to common law judgments involving court jurisdiction) with very little scope for discretion in simple matters - you do the crime, you pay the fine/get your licence suspended/vehicle impounded.

The new MVC is a step in this direction - it makes crime a crime because there's a painful punishment, as opposed to a lollypop of a 'fine' for many things. A significant part of the police force simply handles the procedural details of ensuring that the statutes and procedures are met - they get in trouble if they don't, including defined periods of suspension and loss of pay for sloppiness on the part of the officers.

[ramana]

After meeting Modi now this. Mumtaz Banoo ji is worried about something.

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1174594318469758977

ANI @ANI

Delhi: Chief Minister of West Bengal, Mamata Banerjee meets Union Home Minister Amit Shah.

Philip, I know you are expert on body language.

Please comment on both the people in this picture!

[Hari Seldon]

Would like to see fast adjudication/resolutions of petty cases at least as a necessary ingredient of any police-public interface.

In the Raj days, the Briturds invested judicial powers into District collectors. Perhaps Free India needs to have a IJS - Indian Judicial Service - wherein these powers are invested again in people trained for the job and who can quickly, quietly (and peremptorily) resolve numerous chota-mota disputes (Judge Judy style if required) that arise in any police-public interaction onlee.

This judis-im-prudence of allowing unlimited appeals at higher courts has to stop someplace. Besides.

Just a thought. Only.

[Vips]

Ayodhya case: Lawyer in SC accuses judge of ‘aggression’.

A day after “harshly” advising Justice D Y Chandrachud not to indulge in conjecture while appreciating evidence on record in the Ayodhya land dispute case, senior advocate Rajeev Dhavan, appearing for Muslim parties, said Justice Ashok Bhushan’s “aggressive” tone in questioning “frightened him a little”.

Arguing before a bench of CJI Ranjan Gogoi and Justices S A Bobde, Chandrachud, Bhushan and S Abdul Nazeer on Thursday, Dhavan said there was absolutely no evidence to back the claim of Hindu parties that idols were worshipped inside Babri Masjid prior to 1949. He said the idols were always worshipped at Ram Chaubtra in the mosque’s outer courtyard and these were surreptitiously placed under the central dome on the intervening night of December 22-23, 1949, to desecrate the mosque.

Justice Bhushan pointed to a witness’s deposition before the Allahabad high court that as a 12-year-old, he had visited the disputed structure in 1935 and had seen idols being worshipped inside the structure. Dhavan said, “What is the credence of this witness who is unable to identify any of the 12 photographs of the disputed structure?”

Justice Bhushan said, “It is not a question of believing his evidence. His evidence was considered by the HC. I am just pointing out that there is evidence on record that in 1935, idols were there inside the mosque.” When Dhavan stoutly countered the witness’s evidence, Justice Bhushan asked, “Can we not look into the statement if it is relied upon by the HC, even if it was not pointed out by Hindu parties?

Expressing his annoyance at the judge’s insistence to look into the evidence, Dhavan asked, “Is there some aggression in the judge’s tone in putting the question? I am a little frightened.”

This immediately drew a protest from senior advocate C S Vaidyanathan, who said, “It is unfortunate that a senior advocate of Dhavan’s stature is making allegations that the judge is aggressive when a question is put to him.” Referring to Dhavan’s repeated and proud flaunting of his ancestral connections to the North West Frontier Province (Pakistan) during the arguments (Still the rot is too deep in some punjabis, we will have to wait at least another 10-15 years till all the afflicted ass-holes are dead and bharat varsh is truly free of these vermin) CJI Gogoi said, “People from NWFP are not frightened easily.” Justice Chandrachud, to whose aid Justice Bhushan had stepped in when the former was being lectured by Dhavan on Wednesday for “venturing into conjectures”, returned the “favour" on Thursday.

Disapproving Dhavan’s overreaction, Justice Chandrachud said, “We ask searching questions to elicit appropriate answers to clear doubts in our mind. There is no question of a judge showing aggression during a hearing. It is just a question.” (pleasently surprised by justice chandrachud's behavior)

Dhavan was quick to apologise to Justice Bhushan, as he had done on Wednesday to Justice Chandrachud for being “a little harsh”, attributing it to his possible tiredness. To Justice Bhushan, he said, “My apologies. I was a little taken aback by the insistence on the question. I have appeared before you (Justice) in the HC long time ago and then too you had asked searching questions.” (Scumbag wants everything easy and on a platter to himself)

Comment by one of a the reader is very apt: "So it is Rajeev Dhawan who is trying to intimidate the Judges for asking questions! Last resort of a scoundrel except physical aggression!

[Manish_Sharma]

Dhawan OR Narang surname isn't 'PUNJABI' but 'Jhaangi' they're from areas called Sargodha - Nurpur - Jhang

Multani also seem PUNJABI to outsiders but they're not. Taneja, Ahuja, Juneja are Multani.

Just like 'Multani' they've some similarity of language but also lots of differences. I can understand all sorts of PUNJABI, but not FULL FLOWING JHANGI or MULTANI.

Rajeev Dhawan is Multani not Punjabi

[Sachin]

Would like to see fast adjudication/resolutions of petty cases at least as a necessary ingredient of any police-public interface.

"Compounding" of petty cases was one way which was taken to fix this. It is using this provision that police some times detects an offence, levies a spot fine and then leaves the offender. No prosecution proceedings will happen after that. Even in the recently amended MV Act such a provision exists. This scheme was beneficial to the offendor, and reduced the cases going to magistrate's court. If "compounding" of offences have to be done away with, then the whole judicial procedure at the magistrate court should change. As of now only a person in or above the rank of a Sub Inspector can submit a charge sheet in court. So even for petty cases he needs to spend time on getting this paper work done. What would be a better option is to follow the US system, where the police officer who noted the violation and issued the summons also fights the case in the magistrate's court.

In the Raj days, the Briturds invested judicial powers into District collectors.

This provision still exists. Any revenue official in or above the rank of a Tehsildar starts getting some "executive magistrate" powers. Using this they can order police firings, conduct inquests and also accept bail bonds for certain offences. "RDO Courts" are one place where criminals let of on bonds by the RDO makes regular appearances.

[Sachin]

DKS said to have grown Gold in agricultural land: ED *.
DK Shivakumar if his financial dealings are to be believed; is said to have researched & developed a unique agriculture scheme in which Gold can be cultivated in farm lands. This invention has been widely appreciated in the "secular, liberal & progressive" camps in India, while the "communal" group has been seen sulking. Gold smugglers from neighbouring Kerala has already shown keen interest in this new form of cultivation as they find that their old agriculture methods like protecting gold by keeping it inside the bum was getting risky.

* Title of the report deliberately changed

[Picklu]

The first step of judicial reform would be to collect and publish metrics to public online for every court official. Till the time we do not have the conviction ratio, the avg number of cases handled, avg time for judgement etc for every judge, the result won't improve beyond a point.

My own court case (albeit civil but do not think criminal is much different) is going on for more than 3 years now in state level appeal. It went on for more than 4 years in district level which I won. The opposition lawyer simply does not turn up and the court gives the next hearing date 3 months down the line. Won't blame the judge, they are swamped.

What we need is drastic increase of resource in the legal system but that would be more of the same unless we start tracking and publishing improvement metrics. This is true for everywhere else and true for judiciary as well.

[SRajesh]

In case you have ever seen shared auto in Gurgaon, They even have 2-3 people sitting alongside driver. There is hardly room for the driver to even move his elbows. Should such drivers not be heavily fined and license suspended ?

having sat in those seats which almost amounts to driving them ....along with sitting on the top of those white buses to get the feel of those who came to india at the time of partition, i had the honor of talk to these guys.. most of these guys are just operators of the vehicles. they pay the vehicle owner fixed amount pocketing the rest. The fixed amounts are quite steep (assuming what they told 10 years ago was right). then there were hardly any buses and no olah uber ...good luck if you were late in night ...and wanted to avoid pimps between sahara mall and sikandarpur ..and my fav ..the ride from sikandar pur to sector 56 which was perfect testing ground for a lunar rover although the goats and sheeps during office hours were more suited for an alien planet..with hostile aliens simulated by gandasa or sickle wielding gujars..
lastly not to miss the tale of brush on shoulder with the hairy tail of a gau mata on a foggy winter night ......all while driving a bike full throttle with near zero visibility while optimizing the time in frigid cold v/s the velocity of the cold air due to the speed of bike...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1174715015963860995
Jokes apart
This is why we need strict traffic rules

[chetak]

DKS said to have grown Gold in agricultural land: ED *.
DK Shivakumar if his financial dealings are to be believed; is said to have researched & developed a unique agriculture scheme in which Gold can be cultivated in farm lands. This invention has been widely appreciated in the "secular, liberal & progressive" camps in India, while the "communal" group has been seen sulking. Gold smugglers from neighbouring Kerala has already shown keen interest in this new form of cultivation as they find that their old agriculture methods like protecting gold by keeping it inside the bum was getting risky.

* Title of the report deliberately changed

this guy and many many others including pawarful family members have been "declaring" hundreds of crores worth of agricultural income from a few acres of farmlands for many years now.

this is truly the GM farming method, Gold Mining and not Genetically Modified.

Such advanced methods will become the envy of even the israelis.

and our IT guys have been unquestioningly accepting these "declarations" for many years now.

[chetak]

this is why we will remain a third grade "democracy" if we hand over the reins of power to such people.

it looks like our privacy and rights have no value at all.



Auto value chain data sold to private parties in breach of privacy

Auto value chain data sold to private parties in breach of privacy




Transport Minister Nitin Gadkari had revealed in Parliament recently that the government is selling vehicle registration and driving licence data of Indians and earning money from it.


20th September 2019

NEW DELHI: With data privacy now becoming hot button, breaches too are common place. However, when the government itself decides to wilfully use data to generate revenue, then questions of propriety are raised for this is proprietary data with the right to it and ownership of it vested with the individual.

With the government looking to monetise data, Transport Minister Nitin Gadkari had revealed in Parliament recently that the government is selling vehicle registration and driving licence data of Indians and earning money from it. It is not known whether this decision was ratified by the Law Ministry since issues of privacy are involved.

Replying to a query posed by Congress MP Husain Dalwa, who asked if the government has intended to sell Vahan and Sarathi database in bulk (and) if so, the estimated value for the sale, Gadkari stated that it has provided 87 private and 32 government entities access to Vahan and Sarathi database which has yielded a revenue of Rs 65 crore so far. This is peanuts for the breach involves giving access to tele marketers, leading to widespread harassment, DND (do not disturb) be damned.

If you want to know why the frequency of car manufacturers, financiers and insurers tele calls is rising, then Mr Gadkari is partly to blame for it. More and more people are being inundated with phone calls on topups or loans against owned cars or purchase of upgrades and the reason behind it is that data has been made freely available to a slew of people connected to the auto industry.

An IANS investigation has found that manufacturers Toyota Kirloskar, Tata Motors, Volkswagen India, Indo Farm Equipment manufacturer of tractors, pick n carry cranes, rotary tillers and harvestors; banks like Stan Chart, SBI, Banaskantha Mercantile Coop Bank, HDFC Bank, ICICI Bank, IDFC Bank, Indus India Bank and Kotak Mahindra bank and vehicle financing companies like Khushbhu Auto Finance, Kanak Durga Finance, John Dere Financial Services, India Infoline Financial, Home Credit India Finance, Hinduja Leyland Finance, Hero Fin Corp, HBD Financial Services and insurers HDFC Ergo General Insurance, ICICI Lombard General Insurance Co, Sundaram Finance, Suryoday Small Finance, Tata Capital Financial Services, Oriental General Insurance, TVS Credit Services are the bulk buyers of the data. These are some of the buyers till date and they represent virtually the entire automobile food chain.

The Vahan and Sarathi ministry maintains the Centralized National Registry through the National Informatics Centre and it contains approximately 25 crore vehicle registration records and 15 crore driving licence records. For the same, the Road Transport and Highways Ministry has also created "Bulk Data Sharing Policy & Procedure".

In Parliament, Gadkari had added that organizations seeking bulk data could obtain it at a price of Rs 3 crore. According to him, education institutes seeking the data could obtain it for "research purposes and internal use only" for a price of Rs 5 lakh.

[pankajs]

The rot is deep but this GOI is taking action. Yesterdin there was a similar tweet on NIA officials facing similar action.

https://twitter.com/raghavohri0/status/ ... 3539171328

Raghav Ohri @raghavohri0

Unprecedented!: Two investigating officers probing the VVIP chopper deal removed by ED in past three months!

One repatriated to Customs Dept after detailed inquiry. Another- who joined in July- relieved of all charges, issued three memos

[ricky_v]

this is why we will remain a third grade "democracy" if we hand over the reins of power to such people.
it looks like our privacy and rights have no value at all.

But sir it does, otherwise why would anyone bother trading it?
I will now list down responses to your line of questioning and you can arrange your viewpoint accordingly:
1) If india has to become a 5t economy by 2022, then this is an excellent move that will induce the market to directly target the individuals and this will provide a chain reaction type boost to the economy.
A+/10.
2) and?? all people in the west are born sheep, and look at where they are. Why should indians be aloof of the system that is proven everywhere?
3) I will give you an anecdote: I knew a person who knew two people that beseeched the government to sell their data in the open market, and were awarded a sum of 100000 directly in their accounts. Thus people resisting this new initiative of the government need not only be shamed but also whipped for their stupidity and ignorance.
Clearly, anecdotes are the most rational data collection tool in the history of everything.
4) psst! what autocracy?, autocracy was during upa led aadhar that this government has demonstrably dismantled, this is the government looking out for the citizens as the mai-baap that it is.
5) In the 70 years since independence, no government has developed an infrastructure for such a systematic approach towards data collection and dissemination with a profitable margin to boot, this is the type of governance we need.
6)Avast! the government we kind of like has a pr nightmare again.I know, shocker right!! Harken to the battlestations on smverse ye fellow volunteers, and lets defend the viewpoint of the government whilst warm blood still courses through our veins.

[pankajs]

CJI seems hellbent to deliver verdict on RJB.

https://twitter.com/CNNnews18/status/11 ... 4194935808

News18 @CNNnews18

#BREAKING – Supreme Court to sit for an extra hour to hear Ayodhya case.

SC to sit till 5 pm on Monday. #AyodhyaDeadline | @utkarsh_aanand with more details

[pankajs]

Pawarful seem to be losing sleep

https://twitter.com/CNNnews18/status/11 ... 1274133504

News18 @CNNnews18
#NewsAlert | @narendramodi should've 1st understood what I had said about Pak, if he would’ve had accurate information, he wouldn't have said what he did yesterday. I said, Pakistani army & politicians sow seeds of hatred in the hearts of the people there: @Pawarspeaks

[nachiket]

After committing the lunacy of making pro-pak comments in Maharashtra of all places while on the verge of an election, Pawar and NCP are scrambling to limit the damage now, in the only way they know how - blame Modi

[darshan]

Don't know the today's running rate but a decade ago retired HC judges charged at least 25 lacs and up per consultation. How sick do you have to be with that kind of revenue stream and still looking for dowry money?


Shocking CCTV footage show domestic violence allegedly by retired HC Judge, his wife and son against daughter-in-law
https://www.opindia.com/2019/09/shockin ... er-in-law/
Several other videos from the house’s CCTV camera have illustrated in horrific details the atrocities meted out to the woman, strengthening her allegations that she was continuously tortured and physically abused by the retired HC judge, his wife and their son.

[ramana]

So how is Maharashtra, Haryana and Jharkhand shaping up?

[nachiket]

BJP-SS alliance is very hard to beat in MH. In LS polls this time, their combined voteshare was >50%.

But the alliance itself is not a done deal yet. Seat-sharing negotiations still going on with SS saying they will go solo if they don't get equal seats despite the BJP clearly being the stronger of the two.

[pankajs]

Ye kya ho raha hai?

https://twitter.com/maneeshchhibber/sta ... 3086785536

Maneesh Chhibber @maneeshchhibber

Once again, bowing to pressure from Govt, SC collegium modifies its recommendation. Gujarat HC judge AA Qureshi now recommended to be CJ of Tripura HC instead of MP HC. Will collegium tell us why it changed its decision?

I think this is an exaggeration.

[ramana]

SS has track record of losing to Opposition.
Either willfully or with incompetent candidates.

[ramana]

I hope to see End of History since 1297 this year.

Shivaji's descendant has joined BJP.

[nachiket]

I hope to see End of History since 1297 this year.

Shivaji's descendant has joined BJP.

Udayanraje Bhosale was a BJP MLA in the late 90's. He defected to NCP later after BJP lost the 1999 state elections and remained in the NCP all through the period when BJP-SS combine was doing badly in MH. Now he's coming back when they are stronger. He is an opportunist with a well-known drinking problem. But he is useful because of his lineage.

[pankajs]

One has to be cautious with such piece because it is the reporters impression of a talk and not a transcript or a writeup by the presenter.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... e2bzK.html
Congress’ biggest mistake was its insistence on secularism: Mark Tully

“First of all ‘secularism’ is not the right word to use in this Indian context at all because secularism has a connotation of hostility towards all religions or indifference towards religion and Indians are not hostile to religion and Indians are not indifferent to religion,” Tully said.

“The mistake the Congress party made was to continue with this word secularism... that left the BJP free to say we are the party of Hindus and this is Hinduism… The Congress should have found in its politics some place for the Hindu community just as it found for Muslims or others,” he said. {Admission by a jurno that even while CONgress was willing to bend backwards for Muslims Islam, it has no place for Hindus Hinduism. Not a new revelation to people like us who have paid attention to the CON system behavior over the years. Still, useful if you are trying to prove this point to a non-partisan Indian/Outsider and especially coming from a gora makes it much more credible for both audience.}

Tully, who was the BBC’s India correspondent for more than two decades, also had some advice for the Congress party.

“I think that today what the Congress should say is that India is a country where 80% call themselves Hindus and we believe that Hinduism, which is natural to India, is a pluralistic religion, a religion which is proud of being tolerant and welcoming to other religions, proud of India’s history,” Tully said while admitting that his views would be controversial.

“That’s what I think the taste of Hinduism in this country should be and I do think that for years and years Congress was playing up that secularism business meanwhile they were completely ignoring the fact that 80% of the country are Hindus,” the Padma Bhushan awardee said. {Clearly CONgress was mindful of all religions except for Hinduism. Note the expression used "secularism business". Very interesting!}

Tully, who spent decades covering India since the 60s, also said the ruling party at the Centre, which was trying to make the country a ‘Congress-mukt Bharat’, had also succeeded in building a ‘BJP-mukt Bharat’.

“Because all politics has become about Prime Minister (Narendra) Modi. The whole thing is an enormous personality cult. That what should tell you about politics about this country. One of the things he manages is he manages to get people to forget by having some new tamasha and the elections were the classic example,” Tully said.

“There was no discussion about how well or how badly his programmes were. The whole thing was turned into a jamboree about Indian nationalism and Hinduism. Surely the public is entitled to a debate which they couldn’t do this time,” he added.

Useful for the highlighted portions.

[chetak]

twitter

Bus driver has a religion.
Idols maker has a religion.
Mob has a religion.
Everyone has a religion, except terrorist.

[sooraj]

Transfer row: President accepts resignation of Madras HC Chief Justice Tahilramani

Chief Justice Tahilramani's order disturbs hearing in Sterlite copper plant case

[Karan M]

One has to be cautious with such piece because it is the reporters impression of a talk and not a transcript or a writeup by the presenter.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... e2bzK.html

Basically Mark Tully let his mask slip, he's pretty sympathetic to the Congress, wont admit the Congress was not merely not giving space to Hindus but was actually behaving in an anti Hindu manner. Also tries to make it a BJP vs Modi issue (forgetting that the RSS exists) and also goes on to take a few jibes at Modis policies, BJP making a jamboree over nationalism, Hinduism. Classic gora master syndrome. Really shouldn't have expected different anyhow.

[Vips]

One has to be cautious with such piece because it is the reporters impression of a talk and not a transcript or a writeup by the presenter.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... e2bzK.html
Congress’ biggest mistake was its insistence on secularism: Mark Tully

“First of all ‘secularism’ is not the right word to use in this Indian context at all because secularism has a connotation of hostility towards all religions or indifference towards religion and Indians are not hostile to religion and Indians are not indifferent to religion,” Tully said.

“The mistake the Congress party made was to continue with this word secularism... that left the BJP free to say we are the party of Hindus and this is Hinduism… The Congress should have found in its politics some place for the Hindu community just as it found for Muslims or others,” he said. {Admission by a jurno that even while CONgress was willing to bend backwards for Muslims Islam, it has no place for Hindus Hinduism. Not a new revelation to people like us who have paid attention to the CON system behavior over the years. Still, useful if you are trying to prove this point to a non-partisan Indian/Outsider and especially coming from a gora makes it much more credible for both audience.}

Tully, who was the BBC’s India correspondent for more than two decades, also had some advice for the Congress party.

“I think that today what the Congress should say is that India is a country where 80% call themselves Hindus and we believe that Hinduism, which is natural to India, is a pluralistic religion, a religion which is proud of being tolerant and welcoming to other religions, proud of India’s history,” Tully said while admitting that his views would be controversial.

“That’s what I think the taste of Hinduism in this country should be and I do think that for years and years Congress was playing up that secularism business meanwhile they were completely ignoring the fact that 80% of the country are Hindus,” the Padma Bhushan awardee said. {Clearly CONgress was mindful of all religions except for Hinduism. Note the expression used "secularism business". Very interesting!}

Tully, who spent decades covering India since the 60s, also said the ruling party at the Centre, which was trying to make the country a ‘Congress-mukt Bharat’, had also succeeded in building a ‘BJP-mukt Bharat’.

“Because all politics has become about Prime Minister (Narendra) Modi. The whole thing is an enormous personality cult. That what should tell you about politics about this country. One of the things he manages is he manages to get people to forget by having some new tamasha and the elections were the classic example,” Tully said.

“There was no discussion about how well or how badly his programmes were. The whole thing was turned into a jamboree about Indian nationalism and Hinduism. Surely the public is entitled to a debate which they couldn’t do this time,” he added.

Useful for the highlighted portions.

Under the garb of doing political commentary while appearing neutral he just cant hide the fact that he wants Congress to win by paying lip service to the interests of hindus and attributes BJP win to Modi personality willfully ignoring the path breaking work done by his admninistration. No wonder this a s s h o l e had open access to the who's who during congress rule and was lording it over in Lutyens zone. Seems to be missing those days which he knows will never come back for another BBC or likewise western media scum like him.

[Kashi]

I wonder if Mark Tully noticed the irony in "personality cult".

This man probably enjoyed unimpeded, unquestioned access to the corridors of power during previous regimes and now finds himself out of favour both at home and here. What do they say about washerman and his dog..

[chetak]

One has to be cautious with such piece because it is the reporters impression of a talk and not a transcript or a writeup by the presenter.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... e2bzK.html

Basically Mark Tully let his mask slip, he's pretty sympathetic to the Congress, wont admit the Congress was not merely not giving space to Hindus but was actually behaving in an anti Hindu manner. Also tries to make it a BJP vs Modi issue (forgetting that the RSS exists) and also goes on to take a few jibes at Modis policies, BJP making a jamboree over nationalism, Hinduism. Classic gora master syndrome. Really shouldn't have expected different anyhow.

why does tully tiptoe around the elephant in the room and not mention xtian instead of egregiously lumping them under a catchall phrase of "others".

the congis have overtly favored the muslims but have, much more than the muslims, covertly favored the so called "others". Just look at the power structure of the congis and see how these "others" are embedded throughout their body politic, very much more than the population size they represent. Consequently, they wield a hugely disproportionate amount of political power and have garnered primary support from the FFNGOs and these guys come mainly from one dominant faction of their religion. These guys have spread their cancerous tentacles into the administrative domain like IAS etc, and are occupying thousands of high posts in the judicial services, media and the educational domains. Bar councils in the south are almost completely dominated by these people and they actively discourage other communities from seeking membership by ganging up against them.

tully also knows the true nature of the RSS and their astounding organizational skills and their innate ability and capacity for sustained work in remote/disaster areas with resources that a starving african tribesman would refuse to use and reject as unusable. Yet tully chooses to follow the rut and demonize them. Instructions to tully seem to have come from on high.

If the abhramics fear anything it is the RSS and with Modi at the helm, they are in a huge panic. The fear comes from the single fact that the abhramics simply cannot mobilize and motivate their people as the RSS can its people and it was the conversion mafia NGOs, working in disaster areas, who first discovered the immense strength of the RSS and hence their world wide efforts at calumny and demonization of the one entity that they simply cannot compete with and nor can they influence.

the minorities in India, as well as their foreign BIF cohorts, have now understood this fact and hence the very shrill goebbels like propaganda machinery has been activated for quite some time now. tully is aiding this effort and BTW, tully is as lootyens as they come.

we should not be fooled by tully's smilingly visage, soft spoken words or his avuncular persona. He is no friend of India or the Indians and is as colonial in his outlook as william dalrymple is.

Their aim is possibly to get the RSS proscribed as a global terrorist organization and get at Modi through that route.

[Supratik]

Rumors floating that UP will be divided into 3 states. Good move. Will help in faster development.

https://youtu.be/8-HrmWeNQCM

[Supratik]

Also Delhi will become full state with some added areas.

[chetak]

Also Delhi will become full state with some added areas.

dilli will not become a full state.

if another nut case CM takes over, foreign diplomats and other guys could get special treatment or harrassed depending on whom pays how much. Silly laws could be passed.

Now everything is consolidated under the MEA who carefully watches everything.

Best that it remains a UT under the firm control of the GoI.

[Supratik]

See the video. The Delhi you know will not be the Delhi it will become. Most likely NCT or New Delhi will be separated as a UT.