Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010

archan · Post by **archan** » 16 Apr 2010 16:08

^^ You gotta admire the pakis, how does one live under all this shame?

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 16 Apr 2010 16:19

archan wrote:^^ You gotta admire the pakis, how does one live under all this shame?

What shame?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Apr 2010 16:31

Pakistan to launch afresh probe into BB's assassination after the UN report

The intelligence agencies conducted their own probe. The Punjab Police claim that they have cracked the case and arrested all. The Scotland Yard conducted an enquiry. Now, the UN Commission has produced a report. Except for the UN Commission's report, the others are not released. Now, the TSP government has launched yet another probe. What a farce !

But, not surprising, considering that we are discussing Pakistan. Nothing is known about the inquiry into the assassination of Liaquat Ali Khan till today. How does Pakistan expect to finalize and release the report of BB's murder ?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Apr 2010 16:40

Reactions to the UN report

Presidential spokesman Farhatullah Babar said the report backed up the PPP’s belief that Mr. Musharraf or his allies were responsible for Bhutto’s death. But Mr. Musharraf’s aide Rashid Qureshi insisted the U.N. report was based on rumours and that Mr. Musharraf, currently living abroad, was not responsible.

“This chief U.N. investigator was not the relative of Sherlock Homes,” Mr. Qureshi told The Associated Press. “It is a pack of lies.”

He added that Bhutto exposed herself to the risk even after the head of the country’s most powerful spy agency, Inter Services Intelligence, warned her not to attend the rally because of threats of an attack.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 16 Apr 2010 16:56

archan wrote:^^ You gotta admire the pakis, how does one live under all this shame?

It's like asking why does a pig live in a smelly, rotting, garbage dump. Because it's there and because the pig likes it. It is part of pakistaniyat.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 16 Apr 2010 17:02

SSridhar wrote:Reactions to the UN report
“This chief U.N. investigator was not the relative of Sherlock Homes,” Mr. Qureshi told The Associated Press. “It is a pack of lies.”

In other words, they (the porkis) would have preferred Sherlock Holmes or one of his descendants to have conducted this investigation. Such hubris.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 16 Apr 2010 17:06

Assassinations and surprise/deceptive violence even on "Muslims" are solidly allowed in the Quran and the Hadiths. There is no shame in this. We are self-restricted in our understanding of the ideology -a nd hence our surprise and shock. We should continue to reserve our strongest criticism against "demonizing the religion" and take our most active measures to whitewash it, shut off all voices who dare to expose the actual sayings and injunctions. That will help us to be shocked even more when it is all too late.

Al-Aswad al-Ansi claimed to be a prophet, ibn Kathir said in al-Bidaayah wal Nihaayha, vol.6, P.307-310. This man insulted the prophet and claimed to be a real nabi, then Muhammad sent letters [Tabari on the authority of Dahaak bin Fairuz] that an order came from Muhammad to kill Aswad whether to fight him or kill him and inform him about situation. Muath ibn jabal took this letter and fulfilled it, he went with group of people and went to Aswad al-Ansi and met them together and they gathered and agreed to kill him. They assassinated him together.
They waited for him and he was sleeping on his bed and was drunk, Fairuz came to him and sat and talked he said Fairuz what are you going to do now? He said I took his head and pressed his legs all the way to his back until his legs were on back on his head squeezing him (i.e. snapped his body). I went back to the rest of the people/group and one of the women who had vowed to make sure he is killed said are you sure you killed him? She went inside and moved him, he shook his head, then two men came in and she took her knife and cut his tongue and other man cut his neck and he began shouting, his guard arrived asking what was happening? She said he is receiving the wahi so do not worry and closed the door until they finished the mission. The came back and declared it to everyone and showed his legs for display to everyone. They went back to Muhammad with Muath ibn Jabal, who said; now we have received the news that Ansi has been killed, the one who killed him was an honourable man (Fairuz), his wife and family and praised Fairuz. He was called Fairuz al-Daylami.

Ka'ab was a member of a Jewish tribe who had come to a security treaty with Muhammad in Medina. He was assassianted on Muhammad's orders for apparently "insulting" him, even though technically speaking "dawa" had reached the tribe. Imam Nawawi, Vol.12, P.161, in his Sharh Muslim said Muhammad ibn Maslamah [assassin of Kaa'b] did not violate the covenant of security as Muhammad ibn Maslamah did not give him a covenant in the first place and killed him thus, as for Ka’ab’s covenant with Muhammad, it was violated from before (i.e. when he began insulting). Imam Bukhari said that this is evidence showing that to kill by surprise or assassinate those to whom the dawah reached his tribe in general even though he was not invited himself in particular is allowed.

There are many more incidents, faithfully and obsessively repeated and continued within the Islamic tradition that specifically justify assassination/deceptive murder of whoever can be painted as having gine against the "tenets" of Islam - even a Muslim.

Actually, in the entire Islamic world and its history - Islamic rashtras were almost a continuous sequence of assassinations/deceptive murders/ambushes of "undesirable" or "troublesome" Muslims. Only under non-Muslim rule, and threat of erasure, did these things decrease - and Muslims in that sense are safer under non-Muslim rule compared to Islamic rule.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Apr 2010 17:09

anupmisra wrote:It is part of pakistaniyat.

Nowadays, you have to qualify it with 'inner' or 'outer'. Possibly both, in this particular case.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Apr 2010 17:16

PPP senator speaks the truth about Jinnah and Islamists are furious

Senators from the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid and the PML-Nawaz walked out of the House after uproar erupted over a senator’s “insulting” remarks about Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah.

Senator Saleem Saifullah claimed that Haji Adeel had stated during a TV show on Wednesday that Jinnah used to “eat pork and drink wine”. Adeel denied the claims, but in a “defensive and confused way”.

Adeel’s casual reaction aggravated the situation and the PML-Q and PML-N members criticised him for his insulting remarks.

And, how does the Opposition react ? By calling PPP as the 'Allies of the Hindus'

“I said those words but did not mention Quaid-e-Azam. Rather, a PML-Q member blamed our leadership for being allies of the Hindus.”

But, the question to our Pakistani lurkers here is, "Is it true or not that Jinnah ate pork and drank the forbidden liquids ?"

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Apr 2010 17:43

The PoK Chief Justice dismissed for committing Blasphemy

The Supreme Judicial Council (SJC) of PoK has unanimously recommended removal of deposed chief justice of PoK Riaz Akhtar Chaudhry on the charge of blasphemy, transgression of powers and subversion of the constitution.

While discussing the blasphemy issue, the SJC report states that the deposed chief justice quoted incomplete version of verse No 78 and 79 of Surat Al-Ambia in support of his assertions to give benefit to one Mujahid Naqvi and omitted a few words of Quran as well. Moreover, the chief justice attributed the word ‘Wrongdoings’ to the holy prophets to do favour to Mujahid Naqvi and the SJC is of the view after hearing the religious scholars that it was severe blasphemy of prophets of God. {Oh, what a transgression !}

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Apr 2010 17:52

GUP SHUP from TFT

Hell or high water

A fly on the wall of the haunted house in Isloo tells us that before the 18th Amendment was tabled, Hubby asked Gill on the Hill to come in for a tete a tete. Apparently, they discussed the probable repercussions of a shift of executive powers from the President to the Premier. Central to the discussion was Hubby’s fate at the hands of the Chief Adjudicator with special reference to the Swiss cases. The fly says Hubby asked Gill for his unequivocal support in the face of such a challenge. Gill swore that he would support him. Great, said Hubby according to the fly, let’s have an oath on the Holy Book. So, a copy of the Quran was presented to Gill, upon which he apparently placed his hand and swore that he would stand by Hubby come hell or high water.

Honeymoons galore

While the summer is heating up, and tempers are rising across the country for lack of bijli, our great and good are celebrating their various honeymoons. Our mole reports that Gill on the Hill is happily ensconced with a lady doctor who, apart from being the lucky recipient of Gill’s attention, has also received an advisorship to the government. The Mir of Thousands, in charge of educating us all, has also recently retied the knot, and with a lady from the media. This penchant for media women extends also to the Chief of Bal who has married a former television anchor. Happy honeymoons all!

Mutterings

The axe is about to fall on the La Min, as they say in common parlance. He’s going to be had, says our mole, by the chief adjudicator for his “over my dead body” remark when he rubbished the demand that the government itself ask the Swiss to reopen proceedings against Hubby . And then the other goss is that, wonder of wonders, there are mutterings from within the highest bench that perhaps the top man is going too far in his “Get Hubby” vendetta. A bunch on the bench is said to be unhappy with this all-out war. They think it will compromise the stature of the bench in the eyes of the public.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Apr 2010 18:00

Selected NUGGETS from TFT

Punjab Assembly favours polygamy

Reported in Jinnah MPA Samina Khawar Hayat spoke in the Punjab Assembly asking the house to give permission to all men to marry more than once without the assent of first wife in order to end the crisis of unwed virgins in the province. MPA Maulana Ilyas Chinioti favoured the idea and said that men should be allowed to wed again without the assent of the wife.

Christians convert in Sialkot

Publication of Jamaatud Dawa Jarrar reported that Jamaatud Dawa workers Hafiz Imtiaz and Nasrullah had done hard work for conversion in Sialkot where one Akram Masih had become a Muslim along with his 11 member clan in front of thousands of Muslims gathered to see the spectacle.

Most MNAs are polygamous

As reported in Jang the National Assembly was shocked to learn through PPP MNA Nabil Gabol that 80 percent of the members of parliament had married more than once. Earlier MNA Sherry Rehman had stated that Islam did not allow polygamy but Maulana Abdul Malik retorted that Islam actually allowed men to marry four times and keep all the four wives if need to be.{AoA}

And now, blasphemy against Christ!

Daily Jang reported that clerics of Tehreek Hurmat Rasul took out a noisy procession in front of the Press Club in Lahore protesting against the publication of photographs of Jesus Christ in India which were extremely blasphemous. The processionists said that they were equally defending the honour of Jesus Christ and wanted the Christians to rise up with them, which they were regrettably not doing. {AoA}

Nuclear ‘khotas’ of the Banya

Chief Editor of Nawa-e-Waqt was quoted as saying that any trust reposed in the Hindu banya of India would be tantamount to suicide for Pakistan. He said Kashmir will not be resolved through talks therefore Pakistan should get ready to go to war with India. He added that Pakistan’s nuclear ghoras (horses) were stronger than the nuclear khotas (donkeys) of India.

Lal Masjid cleric on Sheikh Rashid

Head priest of Islamabad’s Lal Masjid Maulana Abdul Aziz was quoted by Nawa-e-Waqt as saying from Karachi that the PMLN got votes by using the name of Lal Masjid, but after being elected in Punjab, forgot about Lal Masjid. He said Q League was responsible for the Lal Masjid massacre in 2007 and Sheikh Rashid was the foremost culprit in that.{Sheikh Rashid, that great mujahid, is no more pious ? AoA} He said the Supreme Court had decided in favour of Lal Masjid but nothing was done to obey its orders. He said his wife Umme Hassaan was able revive and rebuild the Lal Masjid seminary and was teaching 4,000 students there once again.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Apr 2010 18:42

SSridhar wrote: But, the question to our Pakistani lurkers here is, "Is it true or not that Jinnah ate pork and drank the forbidden liquids ?"

He did not, because he is a Muslim. Quran forbids Muslims from eating Pork and drinking Forbidden Liquids. So he didn't do it.

It is an extension of "Islam means Peace (

) and so Muslims are not violent" logic

surinder · Post by **surinder** » 16 Apr 2010 20:00

B, that is correct. The Mughaal rule in India was also one of continous intrigue, deceoption, infighting, violent repression within the family, especially when it related to succession. This ultimately was also a downfall of the Mughals. TSP has inherited the same trait, where each sucession is a complicated drama of intrigue, back-stabbing, and shifting loyalties. TSP'ians have ultimately proven more adept at intrigue rather than the battle field.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 16 Apr 2010 20:40

My take on the report is that it was mild. And why? You guessed it, TSP's best friend, USA. Nothing in the UN moves wothout USA's blessing. Perhahs USA told the UN to not implicate its lover boys TSPA/ISI. One can only speculate, but its the job of the Indian media is it were nationalistic like western media, is to point out that if this is the kind of sham investigation TSP undertook to proble one of their own leader's murder, imagine the sham that TSP has indulgen in, to "probe" who was behind the Mumbai terror attack. Finally, it is the job of the Indian media to publicize to the world that these are the kind of savages that USA calls allies.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 16 Apr 2010 21:14

^^^

CRamS-ji

Please dont jump into conclusions and see Unkil's hand everwhere. Please read the report carefully before you call it "mild" and dont go by second hand reports*. Members of the commission who investigated are known for their integrity, tenacity and truthfulness. They proved their worth in Rafiq Hariri's assassination investigation. Stood their ground during Pakistan's shenanigans about calling the report incomplete or delaying its publication further.

Within their mandate (of not investigating who did the killing, but instead investigating the circumstances of the assassination and the events prior to and after the assassination) Heraldo Muñoz has pretty much said everything that could be said. The only stronger word that he could have possibly used is to call someone a Moth**f**ker. If such a report were written against any other country, heads would have rolled. If it were written against Japan, all top administrators and bureaucrats would have taken a sword and committed harakiri out of shame.

The report ends this way:

Pakistan should consider establishing a transitory, fully independent Truth and Reconciliation Commission to investigate political killings, disappearances and terrorism in recent years and to provide victims of political assassinations and terrorism material and moral reparations.

Please read it and tell me what you think that Munoz is hinting at and his opinion about Pakistan's society and the "Establishment". Please also think why he recommends reparation *from the state* for victims of terrorism. Please also enlighten us which other countries have established such a truth and reconciliation commission and under what circumstances. And therefore, please tell us if his report is strong or mild.

*If I have permission, I wish to, over the weekend cull interesting snippets and post it to the book review dhaaga (even though it might be a bit OT there, it is worth preserving)

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Apr 2010 21:19

SSridhar wrote:Selected NUGGETS from TFT
And now, blasphemy against Christ!

Daily Jang reported that clerics of Tehreek Hurmat Rasul took out a noisy procession in front of the Press Club in Lahore protesting against the publication of photographs of Jesus Christ in India which were extremely blasphemous. The processionists said that they were equally defending the honour of Jesus Christ and wanted the Christians to rise up with them, which they were regrettably not doing. {AoA}

This is the most progressive thought that came out of impure-land.

We should encourage these pious mullahs to announce jeeehard on every western nation that is insulting jessus one way or other every din thru their blasphemous acts...

"Jeehard on Watikan" (Omsama are you listening?)

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 16 Apr 2010 21:23

^^
So the mullahs support Christians who are angry that the Son of God was portrayed in such a bad manner? Oops, did I just commit a blasphemy against Islam by calling Jesus the "Son of God"?

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 16 Apr 2010 21:56

Interesting news on PTI wires today ISI used LeT to foment anti-India passion in Kashmir: UN report

STAFF WRITER 10:17 HRS IST
United Nations, Apr 16 (PTI) Pakistan's powerful spy agency ISI continues to have close links with Lashkar-e-Taiba and has used the terror group's services to foment anti-India passion in Kashmir and elsewhere, a UN report said today.

"The Pakistani military organised and supported the Taliban to take control of Afghanistan in 1996. Similar tactics were used in Kashmir against India after 1989," said the much-awaited report by UN-appointed independent panel to probe the killing of former Pakistan premier Benazir Bhutto.

The three-member panel concluded that such a policy of the Pakistan military to use terrorists as a tool to achieve its strategic objectives against its neighbours resulted in active linkages between elements of the military and the Establishment with radical Islamists at the expense of national secular forces.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 16 Apr 2010 22:08

surinder wrote:B, that is correct. The Mughaal rule in India was also one of continous intrigue, deceoption, infighting, violent repression within the family, especially when it related to succession. This ultimately was also a downfall of the Mughals. TSP has inherited the same trait, where each sucession is a complicated drama of intrigue, back-stabbing, and shifting loyalties. TSP'ians have ultimately proven more adept at intrigue rather than the battle field.

Half of the Ratshidun Khali-faa also got their neck removed surgically to establish the Peace.. I.e.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 16 Apr 2010 22:27

Friday at Quetta

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 16 Apr 2010 22:28

Anujan wrote:^^^

CRamS-ji

Please dont jump into conclusions and see Unkil's hand everwhere. Please read the report carefully before you call it "mild" and dont go by second hand reports*. Members of the commission who investigated are known for their integrity, tenacity and truthfulness. They proved their worth in Rafiq Hariri's assassination investigation. Stood their ground during Pakistan's shenanigans about calling the report incomplete or delaying its publication further.

My friend, an admission: you are correct, I did not read the report except reports about the report. But that said, I don't mean to be obstinate, and of course, wearing my manager's hat, I look at the big picture, I look at the antecedents etc. When I do this, and one doesn't need a high IQ to come to the conclusion that UN is a little malleable tool in hands of the Unkil, to bash it during Dems Vs Reps theater domestically, and milk it for what its worth to attack "bad guys" and steal their resources.

Thus, I will be convinced that the members of the commision are knows for their integrity, tenacity and truthfulness if they unearth the truth about Iraqi WMD, the #of Iraqis killed, and call for a war crimes tribunal against the neo-cons for what they did in Iraq. What are the chances of that?

Until then, its back to work for me, and from time to time, slimily watching my team Deccan Charges chasing King's 11 total of 173 in their crucial IPL game.

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Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 16 Apr 2010 22:39

CRamS-ji

Not to belabor the point. I agree with you that UN is malleable under Unkil's hands (After all the UN is nothing but a collection of delegates, and the most powerful ones come from the US). But as far as *this specific report* is concerned, the members, the report and the way the investigation was carried out and the report itself are beyond reproach!!

In fact I will go as far to say that if you just consider all the OT observations made by the Chilean Ambassador, he comes to a set of conclusions which 400% agree with BRF's point of view. His statements about the influence of "establishment", the holy cows of Nuke policy/Anti India policy which is so holy that anyone seeking to touch it risk assassination, his observations about ISI/Pak Army's role in Jihadi groups formation and encouragement. His observations about their Anti-Shia/Anti-India agenda are so spot on that it should be required reading for every Indian who want to do A Monkey's Ayesha.

My respect for his truthfulness, frankness, courage and ability to see through BS has gone up several notches. Coming from Chile (and not from the Subcontinent), I have to appreciate the speed at which he has learned to recognize all attributes of a RAPE Paki.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 16 Apr 2010 23:39

Dronacharya strikes claims 4

archan · Post by **archan** » 17 Apr 2010 03:17

Anujan, give it up. You will lose onlee. Guranteed.

PS: please do write about the UN report. Thanks.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 17 Apr 2010 05:36

Map of Dronacharya visits to Pakistan

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8& ... urce=embed

arun · Post by **arun** » 17 Apr 2010 07:30

State owned broadcaster Pakistan Broadcasting Corporation runs out of money to buy diesel for captive power generation and is going off air during the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s frequent bouts of load shedding:

Loadshedding cripples PBC

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Apr 2010 07:34

Guru Drona finally resurrected and having a field day in gandhara , taxila and other frontier lands of the confederation

long live Hastinapura !

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 17 Apr 2010 07:39

Report on Bhutto assassination rips Pakistani government, security agencies

http://turtlebay.foreignpolicy.com/post ... y_agencies

Pervez Musharraf's military government failed to fulfill its responsibility to protect former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto in the hours leading up to her December 2007 assassination, or to vigorously investigate her killing by a 15-year-old suicide bomber, according to a U.N. fact-finding commission of inquiry.

The three-member U.N. commission, headed by Chilean diplomat Heraldo Muñoz, also accused unnamed high-ranking Pakistani authorities of obstructing the commission's access to military and intelligence sources.

The 65-page report (pdf) -- which relied on interviews with 250 people and several key governments -- provided a blistering account of government lapses that led to one of the most significant political assassination in a generation. In one of its most damning passages, it accused police investigators of deliberately seeking to avoid solving the case out of fear of discovering the possible involvement of Pakistan's intelligence agencies.

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But the report charges Pakistan's Interior Minister Rehman Malik, who was responsible for providing supplemental security on the day of the attack, with fleeing the scene of the explosion, leaving Bhutto's vehicle isolated, a decision that amounted to "a serious security lapse."

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The sharply worded tone of the report appeared to take Pakistani authorities by surprise. Minutes after a copy was presented to the Pakistan's U.N. ambassador Abdullah Haroon, he cancelled a scheduled press conference and announced he would be traveling back to Pakistan to hand-deliver the information to his government.

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It also challenged the Pakistani government's assertion, made in a press conference shortly after Bhutto's assassination, that a Taliban militant, Baitullah Mehsud, was the mastermind behind the killing. It said that telephone intercepts provided by the Intelligence-Services Intelligence, the powerful Pakistani spy agency, were too ambiguous to prove Mehsud's role in the attack.

The U.N. commission said that the police investigators focused primarily on low-level operatives and ignored potential suspects "further up the hierarchy in the planning, financing and execution of the assassination." It also said the investigation was "severely hampered" by Pakistan's intelligence agencies, which conducted a parallel investigation and selectively shared information with the police.

"The commission believes that the failure of the police to investigate effectively Ms. Bhutto' assassination was deliberate," the commission concluded.

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abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 17 Apr 2010 08:38

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100417/j ... 345547.jsp

The general belief here that Afghanistan enables Pakistan to send jihadis into Jammu and Kashmir and otherwise harass India recalls a conversation with Lee Kuan Yew when he vigorously denied China’s responsibility for hostile Pakistani actions. Pakistanis didn’t need China for that, he argued. Enmity was “inherent in their Muslim fundamentalism”; it was “something visceral in them”. Similarly, Pakistan’s conduct in Jammu and Kashmir was much the same even before US policy allowed it to become entrenched in Afghanistan.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 17 Apr 2010 10:06

Action against Saeed not only benchmark: India to Pakistan

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 824025.cms

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 17 Apr 2010 10:35

CRamS wrote:
Anujan wrote:^^^

CRamS-ji

Please dont jump into conclusions and see Unkil's hand everwhere. Please read the report carefully before you call it "mild" and dont go by second hand reports*. Members of the commission who investigated are known for their integrity, tenacity and truthfulness. They proved their worth in Rafiq Hariri's assassination investigation. Stood their ground during Pakistan's shenanigans about calling the report incomplete or delaying its publication further.
My friend, an admission: you are correct, I did not read the report except reports about the report. But that said, I don't mean to be obstinate, and of course, wearing my manager's hat, I look at the big picture, I look at the antecedents etc. When I do this, and one doesn't need a high IQ to come to the conclusion that UN is a little malleable tool in hands of the Unkil, to bash it during Dems Vs Reps theater domestically, and milk it for what its worth to attack "bad guys" and steal their resources.

Thus, I will be convinced that the members of the commision are knows for their integrity, tenacity and truthfulness if they unearth the truth about Iraqi WMD, the #of Iraqis killed, and call for a war crimes tribunal against the neo-cons for what they did in Iraq. What are the chances of that?

Until then, its back to work for me, and from time to time, slimily watching my team Deccan Charges chasing King's 11 total of 173 in their crucial IPL game. .

Could you give some example of this "steal their resources" allegation you are making?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 17 Apr 2010 11:34

Dipanker:

Iraqi Oil.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 17 Apr 2010 11:49

abhishek_sharma wrote:http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100417/j ... 345547.jsp

The time may have come to forget the past and take a hard look at contemporary geopolitical reality. India might conclude then that it stands to gain more by cutting its losses in Afghanistan and consolidating the economic and strategic relationship with the US.

If TSP wins in Afganisthan, what strategic relationship BS can India have with US? There will be no India left in a decade or two thereafter.

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 17 Apr 2010 13:07

Hazara protests continue

Sooba Hazara Action Committee Chairman Sardar Hyder Zaman has said that they will not hold talks with the provincial government, whereas talks with the federal government will be only for establishment of Hazara province. Protest demonstrations will be held in Mandian on April 19, in Abbotabad on April 20, and Havalian on 21 April.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 17 Apr 2010 13:17

Two Explosions in Kohat: toll rises to 25

KOHAT: At least 25 people were killed and several others injured in two powerful explosions at a refugee camp in Kohat’s Katcha Pakka area, Geo News reported Saturday.
According to the reports, the first blast occurred at a place where ration was being distributed among the refugees and a second bomb also went off when the people gathered for relief activities after the first blast. The second blast caused massive losses.
The injured and bodies are being rushed to district Headquarters Hospital, where emergency has been declared.
Several injured are in critical state, which may raise the death toll.The security forces and the law enforcement agencies put security cordon around the blast site.According to sources, both the blast were suicide attacks.It should be mentioned the refugee camp is 20 kilometers from the Hungu city. The affectees of Orakzai Agency operation are living at these refugees camp on Hangu Road.Also, the sounds of gunshots were heard soon after the blast.

Cant seem to discern the aim of the blasts.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 17 Apr 2010 13:45

Shujaat calls for criminal enquiry into BB's assassination
Aha . . clever by half ?

Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) President Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain has said the PPP-led government or the UN should conduct a criminal inquiry into the assassination of former PM Benazir Bhutto, a private TV channel reported on Friday. Speaking to the TV channel, the PML-Q leader said the people had many expectations from the UN report but unfortunately they could not be met. He said the govt should had asked the UN to conduct a criminal inquiry into Benazir’s assassination. He said local police and intelligence agencies were fully capable of conducting the criminal inquiry, if the govt asked them to do so.

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 17 Apr 2010 14:36

NDTV providing more twists....
Benazir may have been killed for seeking better Indo-Pak ties

Among the positions taken by Bhutto that "touched" the "establishment's" concerns was "her independent position on the urgent need to improve relations with India, and its implications for the Kashmir dispute, which the military had regarded as its policy domain."

Many sources interviewed by the commission "believe that the establishment was threatened by the possibility of Ms Bhutto's return to the public office and that it was involved in or bears some responsibility for her assassination," the report said.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 17 Apr 2010 16:47

Pa'astani Vs. Indian Character
Read the comments below....

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 17 Apr 2010 17:27

Ex-MI Chief ordered hosing down of BB murder spot