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India must not condone sedition
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... -sedition/
No other country in the world would allow a man like Syed Ali Geelani to sing praises of terrorists who killed a senior Indian army officer and a police constable. It is high time that we took loyalty to our country seriously and take action on people like Geelani who have been openly inciting violence against the Indian state for years.The latest incident happened just a day after Col. MN Rai was named on Republic Day for the Yudh Seva Medal. He and his brothers serve in the Indian army and are known for their bravery and have won gallantry awards. Colonel Rai was leading his troops against heavily-armed militants in Jammu & Kashmir on the 27th of January, when he and head Constable Sanjeev Kumar Singh were killed by Hizbul Mujahideen militants in Tral, South Kashmir. While India mourned its brave fighters, Syed Ali Geelani an 84 year-old separatist, who believes in Jihad and wants Kashmir to be a part of Pakistan, rejoiced in the killings and called the two militants who had also been killed in the encounter—brave martyrs! This is a man who hates India and incites Kashmiri youth to violence against our nation state. And yet, the Indian state has saved his life numerous times. In March 2007, he was seriously ill with a kidney malignancy and the US government refused to give him a visa to travel to the US for treatment on the grounds that, “Geelani has consistently failed to renounce violence…” yet he was successfully treated at the Tata Memorial Hospital in Mumbai, which saved his life. Again in March 2014, he became seriously ill and was flown to Delhi to undergo treatment at the best hospital. You would think that a man who owes his life to the Indian state would at the age of 84 be less venomous but he continues to attack India and his latest diatribe on how the militants who killed our bravest and best should be hailed as true martyrs, is really the limit.Since he cares so much for Jihad and an Islamic state surely he would be happier in Pakistan?Why do we condone such behavior? And does it not encourage others to do the same as they can get away with it? Why is Geelani coddled and given the best medical treatment India has to offer again and again, when all he does in return is spit at our country and our brave forces? What will our armed forces and the police feel when their best are killed and Geelani’s behavior is condoned?
Why should their sacrifice to the nation be denigrated by such traitorous people? Should not the government act? And finally, if such acts are allowed to go unpunished would it not encourage others to follow suit?India needs to come down hard on sedition. We are surrounded by countries and terrorists who want to harm the very fabric of our nation and we need to start coming down hard on people who incite violence and openly vouch for
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India just woke up on defence front: ex-Army deputy chief
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... ign=buffer
“India has just woken up to the dire need for defence preparedness. We need to be able to bring the nation on par with others vis-à-vis technology, infrastructure, personnel etc,” observed former Deputy Chief of Army Staff N.S. Malik.He was in the city to address a meeting of students recently. Speaking to The Hindu , Mr. Malik said that defence preparedness doesn’t mean mere equipment. It was training, creating infrastructure and technology. China has developed roads up to Indian borders.But, our troupes need to walk down three to four days to reach their posts. We need to gear up on this front as well, he said.The armed forces are dependent on obsolete equipment even today. India still relies on MiG aircraft, which are known as ‘flying coffins’ or ‘widow-makers’. We need to replace them with latest ones, he said.The other major challenge was shortage of staff. While 42 squadrons of army were required, the country has only 30. There are about 46,000 officers against the requirement of 60,000.Compulsory military training might not be helpful or possible. But, the government should make it mandatory for Central services like IAS, IPS to serve Defence for two to three years.It might take some time for Make in India campaign to ‘take flight’ as far as defence equipment and technologies were concerned.The country should depend upon import of arms for immediate requirements and focus on manufacturing them in India itself for future necessities.The government should also lay emphasis on transfer of technologies while importing arms. Bofors guns would have been a successful case of ‘Make in India’ long back had it not been mired in a procurement scandal.“Whether bribery happened or not, nobody knew. After the deal was scrapped, the transfer of technology was obviously stopped,” he said.Agreeing that NCC visibility was coming down in colleges and schools, he said that shortage of officers and lack of support from the State government was hitting the objective.
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Navdeep Singh ‏@SinghNavdeep
Kudos to @smritiirani for initiating work on an official book on stories of military heroes, martyrs and achievers. Motivating. Well done!
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The Hindu now disrespects retired military officers by not referring to their rank?
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The collapse of the Nehruvian India started with the Chinese aggression in 1962. This external shock shook the system and exposed the many faults and structural weakness in the Indian system. It was fortuitous that Lal Bahadur Shastri, Indira Gandhi and PVN Rao were there at critical junctures and held the system from total collapse.

In many ways it was Mughal Empire redux with MMS as Bhadur Shah Zafar.
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http://theweek.com/articles/537675/does ... long-india
Does yoga belong to India?
The government is trying to get yoga recognized throughout the world as India's cultural property. Since his election last year, Prime Minister Narendra Modi, a Hindu nationalist and devout yoga practitioner, has persuaded the U.N. to announce an International Day of Yoga and has even appointed a minister of yoga in his cabinet. "There is little doubt about yoga being an Indian art form," says the new minister, Shripad Yesso Naik. "We're trying to establish to the world that it's ours." He and Modi would like India to be granted a "geographical indication" over yoga, in the same way France has claimed the term "champagne" only for sparkling wine made in a specific geographic location. But India's quest isn't likely to succeed for many reasons — including the fact that there are more than 100 types of yoga now practiced in the West. Yoga practice waned significantly in India during the British colonial period, when it was seen as backward. Spiritual leader Baba Ramdev has led a revival in India over the past two decades, founding institutes and popular yoga camps. Yet still, compared with the U.S., India has far fewer yoga teachers per capita.

How did yoga spread to the U.S.?
Hindu monk Swami Vivekananda first introduced Americans to yoga in 1893, teaching in New York City and eventually starting an ashram in Los Angeles. On the East Coast, an early populizer was Pierre Bernard, known as "The Great Oom," who taught yoga to society women. When it emerged that he had seduced several of them, he was dismissed as a charlatan. The next yoga wave began when Indra Devi — a disciple of India's most famous guru, Sri Tirumalai Krishnamacharya — opened a Hollywood studio in 1947. Devi taught Greta Garbo and Marilyn Monroe and sparked a fad for yoga among Hollywood stars that continues to this day. But yoga didn't really take off in the U.S. until the 1960s.

Hippie culture was looking toward Eastern philosophy just as U.S. immigration laws changed, allowing many more Indians — including yoga teachers — to come to America. By 1974, PBS was running a popular yoga show featuring Lilias Folan, whom Time called "the Julia Child of yoga." Yoga was still seen as flaky and suspiciously foreign, though, until the 1990s, when fitness studios across the country began offering courses and pop stars like Sting and Madonna embraced the practice. Now yoga is as American as aerobics — although much of the yoga on offer here differs dramatically from ancient Indian practices.Yoga actually refers to a body of philosophy and spiritual practice of which the physical movements, the asanas or poses, are only a small part. The goal is to "yoke" or join the body, mind, and spirit, and achieve enlightened awareness — not to sculpt sexy legs or firm buns. The Yoga Sutras, believed to have been written around 200 B.C., are the founding text for the system today, but they focus on sitting meditation. Ancient texts depict poses, but not the smooth flow of doing poses and breathing together. Vinyasa yoga, the most popular and best-known kind today, introduced the idea of breathing in sync with smooth, flowing movements — but it was founded at the beginning of the 20th century, by Indian guru Krishnamacharya. Many other schools of yoga were created in the U.S. by blending tradition and modern concepts, including "power yoga," and Bikram or "hot yoga," whose sequence of 26 poses founder Bikram Choudhury — an Indian immigrant — tried and failed to copyright. Prashant Iyengar, son of famed Indian yoga teacher B.K.S. Iyengar, has dismissed commercially driven yoga as illegitimate. "What has spread all over the world is not yoga," Iyengar said. "It is not even non-yoga; it is un-yoga."
How popular is yoga in the U.S.?
It's a huge industry. By some estimates, more than 20 million Americans practice yoga, and the lessons, clothing, and DVDs generate up to $10 billion a year. "The irony is that yoga, and spiritual ideals for which it stands, have become the ultimate commodity," says Mark Singleton, author of Yoga Body: The Origins of Modern Posture Practice. A few years ago, Sheetal Shah of the Hindu American Foundation launched a "Take Back Yoga" initiative to emphasize the Hindu scriptural underpinnings of the practice. His group argued that the selling of yoga-as-fitness amounted to intellectual property theft.Not exactly. Modi's effort to rebrand yoga as Indian isn't aimed at denying Americans the right to teach whatever they call yoga, but rather to remind them that they owe the regimen they love to India and to Hinduism. It's part of his effort to boost India's standing in the world, which also includes promotion of traditional Indian Ayurveda medicine. Minister for External Affairs Sushma Swaraj says the spread of India's culture helps his nation project "soft power" beyond its borders. "Be it Californians doing yoga, or Britishers eating Indian curry," Swaraj says, "they all are contributing to the image of a new India."One group of Americans, at least, agrees with India that yoga is primarily a Hindu spiritual practice: Christian evangelicals. In California and in other states, evangelicals have sued or protested over the inclusion of yoga classes in public schools, arguing that it's a sneaky way to inculcate their children with New Age spiritual concepts, including an un-Christian reverence for the body. Some evangelical pastors have gone as far as declaring yoga to be "demonic." But in the U.S. today, most yoga being taught is heavily influenced by Western culture and has no religious content, said Ann Gleig, the editor of Religious Studies Review; only deeply religious Hindus and Christians see yoga as primarily a Hindu practice. "Both of these groups, which have very different agendas, ironically support each other in a historically flawed construction of yoga as an essential unchanging religious practice that is the ‘property' of Hinduism," Gleig said.
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NSFW (do not click this at work):
If Gandhi took a yoga class (in the West)

LMAO at: "Beech! You do realize that is my actual religion right?" :rotfl
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Dangerous life & times of India
Another Talking ContraceptiveMake Debut
A FEW days ago I got a troubled and troubling mail from a friend who happens to be a Roman Catholic. Her parish church, St Alphonsa’s, in a well-to-do locality in Delhi had been vandalised a few hours after she had attended evening service last Sunday. The collection box, full after the weekend congregation, was untouched but ceremonial items used in the service had been desecrated or taken away; it was clearly not robbery.This is what she wrote: “Some media reports describe it as an ‘attack on the church’, the cops call it ‘burglary’. The fact that this most recent attack comes just a few days before the Delhi State elections surely seeks to politicise the issue. I think of it as neither. I wouldn’t even begin to think of it as one religion against another. That’s trivialising the issue. An attack on a church is an attack on democracy. Liberty of belief, faith and worship is one of the cherished tenets of our democracy.“I refuse to be an unequal citizen,” she said but was deeply concerned by the tudied silence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi on the church attacks that began in November 2014.Since the emergence of the Modi government, history like so much else in the secular fabric of India is unravelling.Three days later, as Christians took out a rally and marched towards the home inister’s residence they were arrested in their hundreds while the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government of Narendra Modi remained mute. As mute as it has been since the orchestrated violence against hurches began.There is also the high-profile conversion programme by the Hindu right to regain their lost sheep. The small ‘reconversions’ of Muslims to Hinduism at a couple of towns in 2014 is set to become a gala event in March this year with plans afoot to hold a mass conversion of 3,000 Muslims in Ayodha, the scene of frequent communal clashes. The prime minister is again silent.India is clearly in a bind with its people being forced to deal with so many confusions at one time. Old certainties are being challenged as the forces unleashed by the Hindu supremacist government of Modi undermine what the Indian republic has believed in, or at least subscribed to, in the past six decades and more. The assassin of Mohandas (Mahatma) Gandhi, the guiding spirit of the independence struggle and the conscience of the new nation in its aftermath, is now the mascot of the Hindu right.However, since the emergence of the Modi government, history like so much else in the secular fabric of the country is unravelling. Godse is now a patriot who is being deified by some BJP politicians and the party’s ideological mother organisation the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh along with its fringe outfits who aggressively and violently push to make India a Hindu nation. A flyover in the state of Rajasthan, which is ruled by a BJP government, was briefly named after Godse till protests forced the local officials to remove the plaque. In other parts of the country statues are proposed to be installed to Godse and in the most egregious affront to civilised society a temple is being built to the assassin.Sly attempts are also being made to delete the words ‘socialist’ and ‘secular’ from the preamble to the constitution which may not be a bad idea if truth be told but without explaining the rationale for this step and without a full debate on the issue.
For Indians, from the very young who are unlearning their history in rewritten textbooks to the middle classes who believe that India’s emergence as a dominant economic power is round the corner, these are unsettling times. It is paradoxically a case of nothing having changed with the BJP while so much transformation appears to be in the air.The bigger disappointment is on the economic front. It did seem that the Modi regime was in overdrive to undo the stasis of the past five years during which the Congress government of Manmohan Singh appeared to have been in coma. Yet that is an illusion that is beginning to wear thin. There is, for instance, the 3Ds that only India possesses: demographic dividend, democracy and demand as he has been telling visiting heads of state. Or to industry, the 5Ts that will build brand India: talent, tradition, tourism, trade and technology. These may be a neat evice to turn dreary truths into catchy slogans that keep his teeming fans engaged, but neither industry nor investors, domestic or foreign, appears to be enamoured.The confusion on the development direction India should be taking is also being cloaked in superficiality. The Planning Commission has been renamed the NITI Aayog (National Institution for Transforming India), but neither its members nor the government has let out any details on what the proposed changes will translate to. So far, the achievements in efficient governance that Modi claims for his regime stem from schemes launched several years ago by the previous government, a fact that many economists have commented on rather wryly..
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X-Post from Indo -US relations thread....

JwalaMukhi wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:^So unkil wants to eat cake & have it too. Wants to have cosy relations with both India and Pak.

IOW, will continue to ply Pak with funds, arms, intel and lifelines. Don't see why we shouldn't call this sham for what it is. Why purchase arms from unkil if the same fungible monies goto subsidizing pak's armaments, eh?
India is in very difficult situation, largely because it failed to develop armaments industry and be an exporter of it. Wars are nothing but businesses, where arm merchants stand to gain most. If one doesn't get into being an arm merchant, then one will be forced into dollar auction game where the arm merchants control the auction.

Pakis are very useful, not just for the well known 3.5 to four fathers. But what is not well known and thought out is, Russia will be in bed with pakis, to ensure pakis survive so the dollar auction game continues in the sub-continent. The reason Russia has been mentioned in this paragraph, is because the Indian establishment consistently oscillates between smitten by either one exporter or the other, lacking ideas to actually to become the auctioneer.

The only way out of this is to bankrupt the other bidders in the auction game (be it pakis, china or whoever) and even then victory would come out at a humongous price. Most players including Russia, at a minimum, will ensure pakis do not become bankrupt by extending loans. These days, pakis also have Russia as the new found lover.

The other way out is to not get into the game at all. India is pretty big to sit out in this game. The best path would be to become the auctioneer, which requires lot of change in Indian establishment thinking beyond being best vetters of vendors, and importers of screw driver technology.

If one desires peace, one must deliberately prepare for war. Either become arm merchant or become entangled in costly games.
It started with JL Nehruji. What he found was he could leverage arms purchases to fund Congress party election machinery while starving opposition parties by clamping down on Indian business houses. This way he could get funds and also appease the socialist/communist mindset of the DIE and the voters.
We find that from jeep scandal onwards all arms purchases delays, scams and negotiations are to get a cut for the ruling party funds. Rajiv Gandhi took this one step forward by getting the funds into his private accounts in Bofors scam.

So that is the key to understanding why arms development lags in India.
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Rajiv Gandhi took this one step forward by getting the funds into his private accounts in Bofors scam.
Sanjay Gandhi took his cut in the Jaguar negotiations.
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Sanskrit epic Mahabharata to be retold on Twitter
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/2c8e24f4 ... z3RMslJBsV
A UK-based academic has distilled the Mahabharata, a Sanskrit epic often invoked by India’s Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, into a series of tweets to create India’s first example of ‘Twitter fiction’ — and he is now working on a sequel.Chindu Sreedharan, a lecturer at Bournemouth University in the UK, began narrating the tale through the voice of one of the story’s powerful warriors via thousands of 140-character bursts in 2009.FirstFT is our new essential daily email briefing of the best stories from across the webHarperCollins published his full story in December as a 276-page book, Epic Retold, and the sequel will tell the story using the Mahabharata’s main villain as a mouthpiece.“When you study war you study also the difference between alternative truths,” explains the writer, a former journalist who covered the conflict in Kashmir. “It’s just trying to flip it around and turn the story on the head.”The Mahabharata’s 18 books centre on an ancient mythological war set some 5,000 years ago, but remain popular throughout India, spawning numerous television dramas and comic books.Mr Sreedharan’s plans for a sequel demonstrate the growing — and innovative — use of Twitter in India, the group’s third largest market by users, where the social media platform has also become an important tool for election campaigns and corporate communications.“It’s a platform that’s known for its brevity and my question was whether a story with a longer narrative would work,” Mr Sreedharan says. “It allows you to declutter a lot of your thoughts and it allows you to get on with the story.”When you study war you study also the difference between alternative truths. It’s just trying to flip it around and turn the story on the head.India crossed 300m internet users in December, according to the Internet and Mobile Association of India, with swaths of the population gaining access to the internet via mobile devices. As their potential market grows, platforms such as Twitter and Facebook are embracing new uses that attract a larger audience.“Innovation has always been at the very core of Twitter, whether it’s how it borrows from text messages or incorporating hashtags which was a user generated idea,” says Raheel Khursheed, head of news, politics and government at Twitter India. “We expect people to push the boundaries of their imagination whether through a Twitter Novel or even using Vines [short videos] to showcase their story telling abilities even more.”Mr Sreedharan’s interpretation of the ancient text was influenced by readers, who guided him to other versions and provided feedback online. But the Mahabharata, which includes the sacred Bhagavadgita, can also cause controversy in India and Mr Sreedharan’s portrayal of some characters was criticised by his followers, most of whom are based in India.
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X-post

Delhi defeat is eerie repetition of Panipat redux
@Kal_Chiron @krsngh If CongI is Mughal emp, AAP is Abdali then who are the British? Real threat hidden behind screens
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Posting it for the record, since only churches seem to be having issues these days:

Major fire in Govindaji temple - Iboyaima Laithangbam, The Hindu
A major fire broke out on Tuesday afternoon at the granary-cum-store room of Govindaji temple located in Imphal.

The smoke and fire was noticed at 1:15 pm. Panicky devotees and temple workers fled to safer areas.

Some time later fire tenders arrived there and brought the flames under control. However paddy and other victuals valued at several lakhs of rupees were burnt. Though the cause of fire is not known yet, temple sources said that short circuit was suspected.

It is the major temple of the Vaishnava Manipuris who inhabit the four valley districts of the State.
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Story of the King Rat:

AAP is the new host for the parasites of India...

Like rats abandoning the sinking ship called sonia dynasty and the congress party are now jumping on to AAP...

So the AAP is now going to be laden with these Islamists, evangelical and communist rats.

The old King Rat Rahul is dead...
Kejriwal is now the new King Rat.
Long Live the new King Rat!
:D
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Jhujar wrote:Sanskrit epic Mahabharata to be retold on Twitter
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/2c8e24f4 ... z3RMslJBsV
A UK-based academic has distilled the Mahabharata, a Sanskrit epic often invoked by India’s Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, into a series of tweets to create India’s first example of ‘Twitter fiction’ — and he is now working on a sequel.Chindu Sreedharan, a lecturer at Bournemouth University in the UK, began narrating the tale through the voice of one of the story’s powerful warriors via thousands of 140-character bursts in 2009.FirstFT is our new essential daily email briefing of the best stories from across the webHarperCollins published his full story in December as a 276-page book, Epic Retold, and the sequel will tell the story using the Mahabharata’s main villain as a mouthpiece.“When you study war you study also the difference between alternative truths,” explains the writer, a former journalist who covered the conflict in Kashmir. “It’s just trying to flip it around and turn the story on the head.”The Mahabharata’s 18 books centre on an ancient mythological war set some 5,000 years ago, but remain popular throughout India, spawning numerous television dramas and comic books.Mr Sreedharan’s plans for a sequel demonstrate the growing — and innovative — use of Twitter in India, the group’s third largest market by users, where the social media platform has also become an important tool for election campaigns and corporate communications.“It’s a platform that’s known for its brevity and my question was whether a story with a longer narrative would work,” Mr Sreedharan says. “It allows you to declutter a lot of your thoughts and it allows you to get on with the story.”When you study war you study also the difference between alternative truths. It’s just trying to flip it around and turn the story on the head.India crossed 300m internet users in December, according to the Internet and Mobile Association of India, with swaths of the population gaining access to the internet via mobile devices. As their potential market grows, platforms such as Twitter and Facebook are embracing new uses that attract a larger audience.“Innovation has always been at the very core of Twitter, whether it’s how it borrows from text messages or incorporating hashtags which was a user generated idea,” says Raheel Khursheed, head of news, politics and government at Twitter India. “We expect people to push the boundaries of their imagination whether through a Twitter Novel or even using Vines [short videos] to showcase their story telling abilities even more.”Mr Sreedharan’s interpretation of the ancient text was influenced by readers, who guided him to other versions and provided feedback online. But the Mahabharata, which includes the sacred Bhagavadgita, can also cause controversy in India and Mr Sreedharan’s portrayal of some characters was criticised by his followers, most of whom are based in India.
A good opportunity to retell Maha Bharata from a Dharmic perspective.

For each of the tweets, demonstrate that the acts of Adharmics were out of free will, filled with jealousy, deliberate and were meant to hurt others.

Also do a comparative analysis with Islamic & Christian history comparing and equating the Abrahamic characters with various Kaurava actions.

Another dimension could be how the modern, contemporary society (governance, laws & social interaction) is no different from MB times.
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Too early to call CongI dead, too early to call AAP the new CongI
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TIMES NOW ‏@TimesNow 7h7 hours ago
India-born Punit Renjen to be Deloitte Global CEO. The first Indian-origin person to head a 'Big-Four' audit firm
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Jhujar wrote:TIMES NOW ‏@TimesNow 7h7 hours ago
India-born Punit Renjen to be Deloitte Global CEO. The first Indian-origin person to head a 'Big-Four' audit firm
How exactly does this suit Indian interests?

Our accounting standards are much higher than the West.

It's a shame that indians who wave a foreign degree are looked at with more prestige in ICAI.
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Don't have time to post the entire article. We're trying to get Koh-i-Noor back.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indi ... 72108.html
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RoyG wrote:
Jhujar wrote:TIMES NOW ‏@TimesNow 7h7 hours ago
India-born Punit Renjen to be Deloitte Global CEO. The first Indian-origin person to head a 'Big-Four' audit firm
How exactly does this suit Indian interests?

Our accounting standards are much higher than the West.

It's a shame that indians who wave a foreign degree are looked at with more prestige in ICAI.
This is not true. There are many critical standards, regarding fair value accounting, deravatives etc yet to be notified by NACAS, and also need for CFS.

ICAI has a typical Indian Mindset.
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http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... sy-club/3/
Nalanda’s cosy club
In the heat of the moment, it is easy to lose perspective. Let us step back and consider what the Nalanda University project is all about. Nalanda University and the South Asian University (SAU) were conceived by the UPA government as world-class institutions that, while being located in India, would be outside the purview of the University Grants Commission and government regulations.This special dispensation was meant to allow these universities to draw on government of India funding but recruit international faculty and students, and develop curricula in line with international best practices. They were to be treated as international organisations (like the World Bank and UN agencies), exempt from taxation and eligible for diplomatic immunities and privileges.Controversy has dogged this project from its inception. The first visitor of the university, former President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, dissociated himself from the project in 2011. In 2013-14, the ministry of finance, then under P. Chidambaram, objected to the manner in which the special dispensation was being operated. The Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG), too, has been critical.The ministry of external affairs (MEA) has had its misgivings. As foreign minister, S.M. Krishna recorded his objection to the opaque manner in which Sen selected the vice chancellor and asked for a fresh approach. The relevant file noting is available. Krishna was overruled by the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) under Manmohan Singh.
As a government official told this writer in the winter of 2013, “A mid-level academic, at one of the affiliated colleges of Delhi University, with no known experience in institution-building, was selected to steer this flagship project, apparently over more respected names. We don’t know why.” How was the vice chancellor selected? There is no available history of advertisements, global searches, and candidate interviews with wide-ranging panels.This was the arbitrariness that both Kalam and Krishna objected to. The manner of selection of the vice chancellor drew negative comments from the CAG as well. Further, it was questioned in Parliament. The CAG also objected to the propriety and procedure of fixing the salary of the vice chancellor. This was done by the NMG, by then re-designated as the interim governing board. The annual salary was fixed at $80,000 (tax-free). The SAU vice chancellor’s salary is benchmarked against the salary of the secretary generalof Saarc (based in Kathmandu).I In the winter of 2013-14, Sen mooted a proposal to amend the Nalanda University Act and raise the strength of the governing board to 18. The four new members, all non-government, would be nominated by members of the existing governing board. For example, the vice chancellor would nominate a representative of the faculty as member of the governing board.
In effect, the NMG/ governing board would become a self-perpetuating body, with members choosing their successors. This cosy club would have authority to spendRs 2,700 crore of taxpayer money over a half-decade. The amendment was formally recommended by Montek Singh Ahluwalia, in his capacity as the then chair of the National Monitoring Committee for Nalanda University. The PMO, under Manmohan Singh, initially supported the proposed amendment. After ferocious objections from the MEA and the finance ministry, and fearful of another scandal, the ideawas dropped.
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Imagining Jambudvipa: Rescuing Indology and Indian History
http://indiafacts.co.in/imagining-jambu ... Y.facebook
Certainly meta-theoretical models have made Indology a fascinating and fertile field. The post-Orientalist paradigm has been employed not only to decenter colonial constructions of knowledge and the relationship of knowledge and power, but to problematize indigenous models of “pre-Orientalism” in “pre-Islamic/pre-British India.” There are, however, some ironic contradictions in the post-Orientalist debate. The very agency promised by this project is shunned by the social agendas inherent in the new ideological constructs and denied even more fully in the final, or rather, continuing analyses. Do lingering “colonial constructs” still form the intellectual bedrock of many scholars who, during the prolific academic surge of the eighties and nineties in the wake of Edward Saidism, claimed to have gone beyond Orientalism? Or did they publicly face their own angst and then quietly return to their cherished positions about India, with some new twist of verbiage?
What is now happening, can be compared to a fractal image. Much like the child on the back cover of the Amar Chitra Katha comic book who is looking at a picture of himself on the back cover of the comic book looking at himself looking at a comic book, and so on, infinitely. Quite often when scholars look at India they are seeing themselves looking at India, looking at India, looking at India. But India is not being seen. Their analyses are a reflection of their negation of what India is/was not. In order to avoid anything that remotely resembles essentialism, relationships are fragmented, decentered, and dislodged. Yet, these decontextualized fragments exist in relationship to one or more of the many mosaics that create “Indic civilization.”On one end of the intellectual spectrum are culturally relativistic models that do not accept causal explanations or conventional social science theorizing. If applied in the extreme, this meta-theoretical approach can create an overly reflexive paralyzing angst, an inability to recognize any relationships. At the other end are rational utility models that attempt to uncover coherent structure in chaos and chart function and predictability. Whichever position the researcher takes on the qualitative/quantitative continuum, in the field of socio-historical research any attempt at understanding is simultaneously influenced by the subject and by the orientation of the scholar. From any angle, historical research is a continuous activity of co-construction–even the most pedantic of the positivists experience this process. In today’s theory driven analyses of the human sphere, scholarly subjectivities are owned and examined along with the object, yet, no matter how out-front, they are nonetheless operational.
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11-Year-old Girl Punished in School for Wearing 'Tilak' on Her Birthday
Secunderabad: An 11-year-old girl in Telangana was allegedly made to stand for two hours outside her school principal's room as punishment for wearing a "tilak" on her birthday.

The child, a student of St Ann School in Tarnaka area of Secunderabad was so badly affected by the incident that she refused to go to school for a few days, her parents have complained to the state human rights commission.

The girl was allegedly ordered to stand outside principal Sally Joseph's room on Tuesday and her mother was summoned. The principal allegedly berated the child for wearing a "tilak" on her forehead and hairpins to school. Ms Joseph allegedly refused to listen to the mother's explanation that the child had gone to a temple for her birthday and that is why a holy mark was smeared on her forehead.

"The headmistress did not listen to my wife and daughter and tried to issue a transfer certificate to my daughter," the father said in his letter to the rights body. He alleged that the principal said, "She must remember this on every birthday."
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^^ There is a WiKi for this rabid Christian fundamentalist institution:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Ann% ... cunderabad
And this is not new, a family member decades ago was threatened by another Catholic rabid to remove her tilak, and after appropriate "messages" were hand "delivered" the rabid dogs leashed themselves. Sally Joseph is asking for a personalized hand delivery. Damn, It is a real shame to miss the opportunity.
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Please move to appropriate thread if inappropriate.

Ancient 'lost city' home to a vanished civilisation found deep in jungles of Honduras

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The expedition was seeking the site of the legendary "White City", also known as the "City of the Monkey God", a goal for Western explorers since the days of the Spanish conquistadores in the 16th century.
The city, believed to be one of many lost in the Mosquitia jungle, was home to an unknown people that thrived a thousand years ago but then vanished without trace – until now.
Unlike the Maya, so little is known of this pre-Columbian culture that it does not even have a name.
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Persecution of Hindus and Dharmic folks around the world

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This is unacceptable! Tyranny in India! Je Sue Sriram!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 459003.cms

Fr William Menezes, public relations officer of Mangaluru Catholic Diocese had lodged complaint with Mangaluru City Police against Sriram based on his comments on Facebook. The complaint alleged that the comments questioned the basic tenets of Christianity. The comments, Fr William said were also an affront to the Indian Constitution which upheld secularism and also created a situation of creating a rift between two communities and causing law and order problem.

A case was registered against Sriram in Mangaluru South police station under section 66 of IT Act and sections 153A, 153B and 295A of IPC, commissioner of police S Murugan said. Incidentally, Catholic Sabha, Mangaluru Pradesh, taking offence to what it described were derogatory references and writings about Christianity, Jesus Christ, Mother Mary and Mother Teresa in social media platforms, writings and speeches, had sought arrests of those involved.
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Some one put Joesph Atwill's book 'Caesar's Messiah' on Facebook and let him know the truth. Wonder what will the bad father do? Sue him also?
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Mort Walker wrote:^^^That is correct.

There were some good people in the Indian National Congress (INC) like Sardar Patel and LBS, but their influence was limited in comparison to JLN. The British government had setup preferred traders and merchants like the Birlas that they had dealings with. Most of these were protected businesses and not subject to free markets because they sold goods to Britain on favorable terms. In the 1930s the British government ramped up taxes on India to help them out of depression and pay for the WWII build up. Local industries that were not part of the preferred group of traders and merchants to the Government of India (that is the Governor General's administration) were heavily taxed, so it was impossible to sell good and services. Additionally, raw material including silver, food grains, cotton, minerals, rubber, etc. was significantly exported out of India from the 1930s and 1940s much more than the past. By the start of the war, India was racking up Pound Sterling credit of more than a million a day! To pay these traders and merchants, the British government used the Indian Rupee, but they did not have enough, so the Government of India printed even more causing inflation. This triple whammy of no manufacturing employment (strictly for domestic consumption), the forced sale of raw materials including food grain, and inflation made those who were poor even poorer and caused the famine in eastern India from 1941-1944. When the INC took over with JLN determining policy in 1947 it basically instituted the exact same policies of the previous Government of India, but with the exception of food grain and raw materials not being shipped out as in the past. No more famine, but the poor remained the poor.

This is why the election of Modi in May 2014 is so significant. We now have a prime minister that was born after independence and for the first time we get to see what a non British government would be like. This is why it so critical to have the BJP with Modi at the center for 20 years to finally gain true independence.
The deleterious effect of JLN on India's well being was significant for decades after 1947.
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ramana wrote:
Mort Walker wrote:^^^That is correct.

This is why the election of Modi in May 2014 is so significant. We now have a prime minister that was born after independence and for the first time we get to see what a non British government would be like. This is why it so critical to have the BJP with Modi at the center for 20 years to finally gain true independence.
The deleterious effect of JLN on India's well being was significant for decades after 1947.
The new govt should change the govt process in such a way that no Indian govt in the future will follow the British policy
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^^^This is correct. IMHO, the biggest problem we have today, as far as local policy is concerned, is that the district collector is in charge of district revenue and policing. This is a legacy of the British to enhance revenue for the state governments so that money and property (gold & silver) could be collected for the Government of India (Governor General). The collector needs to go away and district officials need to be elected every two years. It will force district officials to serve the people or they are gone in the next election. Municipalities and panchyats are too small to provide governance. They do not have resources for water/sewage/garbage collection, power lines, and local road construction.

I would also suggest that India withdraw from the British Commonwealth and institute a re-vamped SAARC.
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Mort Walker wrote: The collector needs to go away and district officials need to be elected every two years. It will force district officials to serve the people or they are gone in the next election. Municipalities and panchyats are too small to provide governance. They do not have resources for water/sewage/garbage collection, power lines, and local road construction.

I would also suggest that India withdraw from the British Commonwealth and institute a re-vamped SAARC.
After independence the state govt has the power over the revenue and also the distribution.
IAS officer is usually posted as collector. This need to have a district elected official council so that they oversee the spending in the district in non metro areas.
The collectors name need to be changed to Public servant- literally.
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The Zilla Parishad (ZP) Chairman is the publicly elected official at Zilla/District level.
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The use of the IAS officer for the collector is IMHO a shoe horn solution to a real problem. Yes, the district collector as we know it today is in charge of revenue, distribution, policing and keeping high ranking MLAs happy. It leaves a lot of scope for corruption.
It must go! Such officials need to be elected.
AFAIK, the ZP chairman does not have as much power as a collector because he does not control a larger police force or large revenue distribution.
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http://swarajyamag.com/politics/new-deal-for-dalits/
New Deal For Dalits?

( Internal Consolidation of Bhartiyas?)
Market alone can tide over India’s regressive caste system. Nehruvian socialism, which made the state the biggest economic power, has only cemented the social status quo, and yet frustrated all castes while strangulating the Scheduled Castes and Tribes’ entrepreneurial zeal. The Narendra Modi government seems to have read the flaw right; it is taking corrective measures without noise.
But in the Nehruvian path, which India followed, the caste considerations were brushed aside in the name of ‘scientific’ and ‘rational’ approach to create a ‘socialistic pattern of society’. Under this approach, caste was not to be talked about or considered in policy making apart from the constitutionally mandated reservation system for the Scheduled Castes and Tribes. It was presumed that if caste was not talked about in public, somehow the caste system and resultant problems would fade away in oblivion. What happened was the exact opposite. Not only was caste inequality strengthened under the Nehruvian ‘Idea of India’, but it also ended up being a major factor in the demise of the Nehruvian system with furious eruption of caste politics in 1980s.
The solution to the problem lies in providing economic freedom and creating a system of individual liberty and protecting individual rights. A system based on the market impersonalises the economic transaction between parties. It means that, over time, the caste of the economic agents ceases to matter. Consequently, the scope of caste discrimination too is greatly diminished while cost of discrimination increases. Only a system based on the market can supersede the system based on birth like what happened in Europe and Japan.But the policies under the Nehruvian era were in the diametrically opposite direction. India adopted a system where state was to occupy the proverbial commanding height in the economy. Private entrepreneurship was seen with suspicion and economic freedom was suppressed under the infamous license-quota raj. If someone wanted to start even a small business or open a shop, he had to wade through a complex web of rules and regulations, which were designed not to facilitate entrepreneurs, but to control them. This meant that power was increasingly concentrated in the hands of bureaucrats and politicians who mostly came from forward/dominant castes, reflecting the socio-economic order of the day.
It was particularly debilitating for the Dalits who lacked social capital to brave the obstacles or economic resources to bribe their way through them or the right connections via caste networks to circumvent the system altogether. It made sure that even under the ‘New India’, the doors of economic and resultant social mobility were closed to them.It was also this system that enabled the already-established castes to leapfrog into the modern economy. The system not only limited competition to those with the right social connections in politics and bureaucracy, but also made the socialist state a vehicle of accumulation for forward castes. This further strengthened the British legacy of absorbing the forward castes into the modern economy due to their higher social capital and advantage in education and relegating Dalits to stick to not so flattering traditional professions. Dalits stayed where they were while forward/dominant castes abandoned their traditional professions for new opportunities in newly emerging industrial and urban centers.
Besides suppressing entrepreneurship, the top-down model of industrialisation through Five Years Plans re-enforced the process. Instead of building manufacturing units on a mass scale, which could have provided jobs to millions of unskilled and semi-skilled masses, India went for heavy industrialisation with imported technology. And these industrial wonders sat like an island in remote corners of the country with hardly any forward and backward linkages with the sea of destitute humanity surrounding them. A chance at employment in them required a level of education and modern technical knowhow. And there is no guessing who would be getting employment in these temples of modern India. Certainly not the Dalits whose educational statistics were as abysmal as it can be imagined. And the much-touted land reforms too gave the land to tenants, OBCs, and not to the tillers who were largely landless Dalit labourers.Thus, the socio-economic distance between forward castes and Dalits was now overlaid with the urban-rural divide as well as with the divide between high-productivity (modern) and low-productivity (traditional) sectors of the economy. This process did more to exaggerate the caste inequalities than any other in the recent times. Instead of anything real, what was offered to Dalits in the Nehruvian consensus was patronage in the form of fancy welfare schemes (on paper), reservations and token representation in legislative bodies. And it is a testimony to the ‘Nehruvian consensus’ that the condition of Dalits still remains one of poverty and powerlessness.
But the new government has been quietly charting a new Dalit agenda in the almost one year that it has been in power. Without doubt it is upending the ‘Idea of India’ of bleeding heart liberals who forever want to play Samaritans to Dalits. In the last few months, the NDA government has taken three major decisions with the potential to transform the entire socio-economic landscape. The announcement of Micro Units Development and Refinance Agency (MUDRA) in Budget 2015 reflects the clear thinking of the government with respect to what is contemptuously called the non-formal sector. This sector boosts of 57.7 million micro manufacturing, trading, and service businesses, which generate maximum jobs for Indians. What’s more, most of these enterprises belong to Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and Other Backward Classes. Among them, Dalit entrepreneurship has been a rapidly growing segment in recent times.Lack of social capital and access to institutionalised finance are among the major problems faced by Dalit entrepreneurs. It, therefore, becomes incumbent upon the state to support Dalit entrepreneurs in the start-up phase especially when most of these fields are new to them. In this regard, it is a welcome sign that government has its focus at the right place.Prime Minister Narendra Modi (Source: AFP PHOTO / Roberto SCHMIDT)Prime Minister Narendra ModiIn another landmark scheme, Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment has launched the Venture Capital Fund for Scheduled Castes to promote entrepreneurship among Dalit community by providing them with easy access to capital at a concessional rate. It can help fill the energy deficit in poor or remote areas and also spawn an entire gamut of mini industries of maintenance associated with these projects, which can expand the job horizon and income generation for people with minimal training.It has been argued that the sweeping mandate for the Modi-led BJP was a vote of an aspiring India. And Dalits are no exception to this trend. In fact, a phenomenon of the last year is the shift of Dalit votes to the BJP — election after election. One of the major reasons driving this change is the emergence of Dalit middle and neo-middle class and ever strengthening discourse of Dalit capitalism. Since the BJP is seen as a pro-business party championing good governance, it is no surprise that it has attracted Dalits in such a large number who are fed up with same old rhetoric and welfarist promises. Social mobility and political empowerment will follow. One of the famous lines of Kanshiram in public meetings was about converting Dalits from “beggars to givers”, from “those who seek jobs to those who are job givers.” And it seems that finally his wish has found resonance with the government of the day
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Nehruvian system collapsed in 1962. From there till 30 years later it was in slow death complete by the PVNR economic reforms.
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Nehruvian= Night(n)mehruvian social economic damage is still holding India back.We have to just suck it up for one more decade to exorcise the ghost of Chahca. India's strength, destiny lies in this social consolidation. The generation born in 60s shall see this in its life time and those born post 90s won't even know how it was accomplished.
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