Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

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vijayk wrote:Image


:rotfl: :rotfl:

She wants to be President of USA and she hates every day Americans
like I said, one big college campus.
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You need to place " around everyday Americans - Podesta was too lazy do it.

"everyday Americans" it is part of her very first first ad:





Go figure.






Frankly, I think wikileaks is doing her a huge favor.

Julie has fallen asleep. Too long in a dingy room, in the middle of London can do that.
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julio is dipping into basket of deplorables while ensconced at the embassy? :shock:
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It's personal with assange. Clinton probably had a role in the events leading to his refuge in Ecuador embassy
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rage against the machine.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RroVxJO-kng
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wikileaks, blink 182, John Podesta and UFO's.............

http://nasawatch.com/archives/2016/10/w ... blink.html

"The former lead singer of the band Blink 182 was in recent contact with Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta about UFOs, newly disclosed emails show. Tom DeLonge, who was the guitarist for the power punk trio best known for songs like "Dammit" and "What's My Age Again," emailed Mr. Podesta at least twice. He wrote in cryptic terms about their well-documented mutual interest in more government disclosure about the phenomenon of unidentified flying objects of potential extraterrestrial origin. The emails, released by the website Wikileaks this month, also reveal that Mr. Podesta participated in a documentary that Mr. DeLonge is producing. Mr. Podesta, who has worked in the highest levels of government in the administrations of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, has expressed interested in the topic. And he has long championed further government disclosure around classified files concerning UFOs."

Enchanting, absolutely enchanting............

we are entering the realm of Miskatonic University where the campus is a bit strange......

https://www.amazon.com/Miskatonic-Unive ... B00GPMSSRO
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^^^^^^ that's cherry picking and not truly indicative. hillary is going to win.......regardless, she may also carry the senate. she will be one of the most unpopular presidents in history. right up there with Nixon and Hoover. her name will become synonymous with insider politics, influence peddling and identity and gender politics.
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Yesterday, well after the debate, there was a 25K+ rally in Florida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htwIcJv5IbI
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just like pakistan blaming India while covering up local frauds ..
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Donald is not out. The lead gets cut from 11points to 9 points after Sunday debate. Seems like everyone was able to relate to him based on his locker room talk :)
Hillary Clinton Leads Donald Trump by 9 Points, WSJ/NBC Poll Finds
Donald Trump successfully used Sunday's presidential debate to rally Republican voters behind his candidacy, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC survey finds. But he trails Hillary Clinton by 9 points among likely voters and faces unease over his crude comments about women.
The poll, conducted over three days, showed Mr. Trump gaining support after Sunday's debate. He had trailed Mrs. Clinton by 11 points in Journal/NBC News polling on Saturday and Sunday, conducted as news reports were filled with the disclosure of a 2005 recording of Mr. Trump's remarks about women. But that lead fell to 7 points in polling on Monday, after Mr. Trump in the debate said he had apologized for those comments and revived accusations of sexual misbehavior by Mrs. Clinton's husband.
Over the three days of polling, before and after the debate, Mrs. Clinton's lead stood at 9 percentage points, 46% to 37%, among likely voters on a ballot including third-party candidates.

Trump - Landslide victory ...
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/if-you ... 2016-10-07
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^^ Donald is all but done , The Establishment wants Hillary to Win at all cost and they will go to any extent to make her Win. Donald is just an outsider guy and anomaly that is not fit for the Role.

Well atleast he got useful airtime and it will be good for his business :)
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For Hillary to win, they have to fix the voting machines, all this rating and controversy are an excuse to mislead public that voting is genuine and on predictable lines. USA is capable of massive voting fraud due to 100% electronic voting machines and Diebold and Honeywell are the masters of it.
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What will be the impact on white nationalists(/racists) if Donald does not win.They hate Hillary and call Bush as cuckold conservative.(to be fair to them,they have no stomach for the deep states machinations in ME or Ukraine)They hate their white nation becoming diverse.They hate blacks,mexicans,asians,indians,muslims.They have some genuine fears regarding jobs,political correctness.They hate jews for promoting p0rn,homosexuality,political correctrness,LGBT,immigration.

Its possible Hillary will embrace white nationalism for liberals too share the same genepool and 'worldview'.Or theres real chance of civil war on issues like gun control/immigration/mexican citizenship rights.

What do gurus think?

The average white has benefited immensely from technology.OTOH,slavery and colonialism is not going to come back.
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Anonymous - Hillary Clinton: A Career Criminal

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Hillary will win and Assanage most likely will face the consequences
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shyam wrote:Yesterday, well after the debate, there was a 25K+ rally in Florida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htwIcJv5IbI
Crowd size has limited bearing on overall vote share. Ask Walter Mondale, Dukakis, Mitt Romney or Bernie Sanders. It does indicate that you have a very strong support among a core base of supporters and they love to see you in person. There is a cult like element to it as well. An overwhelming majority of the people that show up to vote wouldn't have attended a single rally, or may have not attended any political event their entire life. We are talking about 130+ million people here that are expected to vote. Rallies are nothing more but a reflection about your core group of supporters and those that are charged up by your political message.

What large crowds allow you to do is support and fuel a campaign of small donors and contributions and if done right, employ a grass roots strategy of registering voters and a get out to vote campaign. There are few signs that Trump even has an effective ground game since al lot of the door to door stuff was outsourced to the RNC. A little over 12 million folks voted for Donald Trump, and a lot of those are his core-base of supporters. There are probably as many more that did not vote for him but like him a lot regardless. The 'base' isn't his problem. If enthusiasm among the base was a metric this election was to be judged at, he would have already been declared the winner.

The election however is about winning a lot many more voters over besides your core group of supporters..The next POTUS would need to get well over 60 million votes and this means reaching out to minorities, women, independents, those holding out in your own party and those from the other side that do not like their candidate. He isn't doing much of that and seems to have adopted a strategy (much of it post first debate, but a lot now post the video leak) of simply working on his base and not caring about anything else. This week and what looks like the rest of the campaign is a Steve Bannon show instead of the strategy that Kellyanne conway allegedly charted for him.

I also don't subscribe to the establishment - anti-establishment candidate characterization. He is an insurgent candidate, but his campaign hasn't really used that in the best way. In other words he is a deeply flawed candidate for that strategy. If he campaigned on one message alone he would be ahead in the polls..However he has no message discipline and can't resist picking fights and diverting attention to needles things (Like Ted Cruz's dad, or John McCain in a foxhole, or perverts and how they can never change etc) f he did not come with the baggage of sleaze or lacked the sort of unfavorables that he does have(No one has been viewed by so many as so unfavorable since they began recording this thing..and the GOP has worked overtime and managed to find someone that is even more disliked than HRC) it would have been a different thing. There are plenty of reasons he has given to those within his own party, both elected, or those that have been involved in it to not support him, sit out and in some cases jump ship.

Its the DUTY of the nominee to win over those holding out in his/her own party. Its not for them to fall in line. Romney, McCain, and Bush had to do it when they were nominated. Clinton has had to do it as well (although Trump has probably helped her out here). The civil war within the GOP is a Bannon strategy that he probably dreamed up some time ago. He and his publication, and message would benefit immensely from the fall-out of this post election...Trump..not so much!.
Donald is not out. The lead gets cut from 11points to 9 points after Sunday debate.
Just to put this in context, In 2012 Obama won by less than 4 % of the vote share margin that translated to 126 EV margin. In 2008 the vote % diff was 7% and Obama won by 192 EV's. In 1988 an 8% vote share margin translated to a whopping 315 EV lead for Bush sr. While I think this election would be close and HRC would do very well to mirror Obama's 2012 performance but if these %age leads of 7+% hold steady, poll after poll you could be looking for a massive landslide victory with HRC securing close to 350 EV's. Such high leads also do not bode well for the chances of the GOP in the Senate and the size of their lead in the house.

Individual polls however, could be deceiving since there are always outliers. Its best to look at a model that takes all of them into account. Nate Silver and Sam Wang do a very good job of putting this all in context. I quite like Wang's analysis but both of these look pretty much identical now and have Hillary repeating Obama's 2012 performance while Trump is slightly below Romney in EV count. Both of them have HRC winning with about a 5-6% vote share margin.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... id=rrpromo

http://election.princeton.edu

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If putting HRC in the white house was the eventual goal - Trump is doing an outstanding job of late.
vijayk wrote:Hillary will win and Assanage most likely will face the consequences
Conspiracy theories aside, wikileaks and assange would continue on and will keep on doing what they do. What is likely to happen however, is that the current administration with the support of the GOP in the house and senate (current majority in both) will strengthen the current economic sanctions on Russia, with influential GOP FP leaders criticizing Obama for not going far enough.
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Kill him? He is "too big to kill" and will inspire too many people. But HC stupidity is well knowing, and if she wins I am sure she say " will someone save the world from this troublesome hacker" and he will be taken care.

Later if and when someone asks she will say she has not ordered his killing and put up a sad face.

Republican congress candidates 1/3rd of total Senators many Governers are all contesting elections. Are they actively not doing ground work to get the base to vote and are they now tell most of their voters in open to going and vote for HC? I am not sure. Brixit has no core organisation as far as I know and I know very little of course of the UK and all parties wanted to stay in EU. They failed.

In India, I used to have best organisational support but failed every time to get my party candidate even good percentage votes to save his deposit. That being said in a close contest better organisation makes up to five % vote difference in India. I am not sure about US.
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gerrymandering may as well come back to bike GOP hard in the ass.

there is a danger in gerrymandering - if there is a tide big enough it can whitewash everything because you have drawn districts that are 20% 30% in your favor that you thought was comfortable and suddenly it is not.
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brar_w wrote:Crowd size has limited bearing on overall vote share. Ask Walter Mondale, Dukakis, Mitt Romney or Bernie Sanders. It does indicate that you have a very strong support among a core base of supporters and they love to see you in person.
Indeed. In fact, an even better example I'd say is the 2016 Washington Democratic Primary.

When the caucus was held to divvy up the state's delegates - 230,000 people voted to send 26,000 local delegates to the party caucus at Tacoma, a whopping 72% of whom voted for Sanders. But when a parallel primary were held where 800,000 people directly voted for the candidate, Clinton got 52% of the popular vote.

Much like Sanders, Trump has a core of passionate, committed often fanatic supporters (some of whom happen to be BRFites as well.. lol). Clinton meanwhile doesn't have enough passionate supporters willing to drive all the way to fill a local stadium, but a majority of (admittedly uninspired) voters will still be willing to make their way to the local high school to vote for her.
Just to put this in context, In 2012 Obama won by less than 4 % of the vote share margin that translated to 126 EV margin. In 2008 the vote % diff was 7% and Obama won by 192 EV's.
No no. That's the actual vote share. We're talking about opinion polling. In Nov 2008, Romney trailed Obama by a measy 0.7% in the RealClearPolitics average of polls. And unlike Romney, a competent businessman, Trump has a miserable ground game and his GOTV effort will be a sorry affair.
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Viv, I was referring to the polls forecast if the elections were to be held right now. Silver's model has HRC up by 5% of the Popular vote total and that as per his collection of polls puts her at about Obama levels as far as EV's are concerned. That's why I cautioned in using just one poll to figure out popular vote difference when models that take a lot more polling data into account are better predictors.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... id=rrpromo

The models will get a lot more accurate by the second half of the Month. Wang's election day (released that afternoon) prediction for Obama's popular vote percentage was off by less than half a percent in 2012, and Silver wasn't far either.
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vijayk wrote:Hillary will win and Assanage most likely will face the consequences
Likely he might get assassinated by Intel but then I think he is just face of wikileaks , They will be having dozen of people in their orginisation who would replace him.

There is a big leak on Google coming up in November and then he mentioned something big in December on Few other countries.
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WikiLeaks Releases 4th Installment of Clinton Campaign Chairman's Emails

https://twitter.com/wikileaks
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I think as POTUS , Hillary would start her Day 1 job with the most tarnished & dirtiest reputation any POTUS would have till date even with all MSM whitewashing her.

I recollect during leaks by Bradley Manning she has to run around from country to country defending these revelation which were very embarrassing.
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Austin wrote:I think as POTUS , Hillary would start her Day 1 job with the most tarnished & dirtiest reputation any POTUS would have till date even with all MSM whitewashing her.

I recollect during leaks by Bradley Manning she has to run around from country to country defending these revelation which were very embarrassing.
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That would apply as much if not more to Trump as well. Also, don't forget GW who lost the popular vote to Gore in 2000 by half a percent. She will be by far the least liked candidate to ever win a General election thanks largely to the GOP that managed to field someone that people view even more unfavorably ( apparently that was possible).

Ultimately, when the dust settles you have to see how the candidate performs as POTUS and approval ratings capture that over the course of the presidency. Just a few years ago no democrat running for re-election wanted Obama to campaign with him/her...Now he has his highest job approval rating of the last 3 years - This after 17 Republicans have spent more than a year attacking him and his policies. What's even more remarkable is that if one disregards the initial honeymoon period (first year or so) the highest his approval rating has ever been was 58. At 52 and climbing he could well be in the mid to high 50s by the time the new POTUS is sworn.

That said, its highly likely that whosoever wins, he/she likely to be a one term president.
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^Correlates with GDP, jobs and income levels. You can get away with sex, lies, murder?, if you take care of these things as Bill Clinton demonstrated. The murder thing is a figure of expression. One way or the other, the US is destined to become more inward looking and globalization as we know it is going to change. India should factor these.
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ShauryaT wrote:^Correlates with GDP, jobs and income levels.
Either that or folks are having a look at the two clowns and want to keep him until someone better shows up :mrgreen:
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brar_w wrote: That said, its highly likely that whosoever wins, he/she likely to be a one term president.
doubt that..

it is now almost certain that Trump will lose, and he's going to blame party leaders and it will be civil war in Republican party to the point of even losing congress and not making gains in mid-term as is customary in modern era.

i just don't see a way that, as things stand now, that any republican candidate can win both the majority of his party as well as majority of americans.

a mitt romney type without the 49% tape would be winning against hilary. but mitt romney types won't be winning the primary anymore.

the demographic trends all point to even more red states becoming swing states.

i am predicting a democratic in the white house for a long time. heck, if hilary can win, anybody can win on the democratic ticket.
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New leaked hidden cam proves voter fraud in New York against Bernie Sanders.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...oter_fraud_in/
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Leaked email shows CNN's Donna Brazile, now head of DNC, tipped off Clinton campaign about debate question

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/786225211481792514
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wikileaks 4th tranche has too much scoops , If such a scoop came against any Indian Politician even 1/10 of it , he would have been hounded by media , public and forced to resign with permanent Sanyas
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brar_w wrote:That would apply as much if not more to Trump as well. Also, don't forget GW who lost the popular vote to Gore in 2000 by half a percent. She will be by far the least liked candidate to ever win a General election thanks largely to the GOP that managed to field someone that people view even more unfavorably ( apparently that was possible)
You cant really compare Trump misdeeds to Hillary as much disgusting Trump deeds are.

Hillary is Pure Evil , Liar , Criminal and she has been in Public life for a long long time ...... She certainly holds a reputation of the Worst Candidate in US election till date barring none.
Ultimately, when the dust settles you have to see how the candidate performs as POTUS and approval ratings capture that over the course of the presidency. Just a few years ago no democrat running for re-election wanted Obama to campaign with him/her...Now he has his highest job approval rating of the last 3 years - This after 17 Republicans have spent more than a year attacking him and his policies. What's even more remarkable is that if one disregards the initial honeymoon period (first year or so) the highest his approval rating has ever been was 58. At 52 and climbing he could well be in the mid to high 50s by the time the new POTUS is sworn.

That said, its highly likely that whosoever wins, he/she likely to be a one term president.
Well Looking at the close links that Hillary has with Media , I wont be surprise she gets the highest approval ratings of any President till date :rotfl: :rotfl:
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My opinion is that most of polls are biased in favor of hillary because sample population was from democrats. Only massive election fraud can help Hillary win. Her so-called loyalists will only stir out of their beds/sofas on election day if they are racially abused by trump supporters every day, which is why BLM movement was launched by Hillary camp as soon as Trump bought up Hillary's war record. The aim was to create a fake movement of fear and hysteria that will culminate with Hillary's election ans play into ongoing black civil disobedience meme.

If anyone can solve the blacks issues with police effectively, it would be Trump, because he approaches the issue sideways by ensuring more funds are thrown at the right places, and they owe him loyalty.
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ell Looking at the close links that Hillary has with Media , I wont be surprise she gets the highest approval ratings of any President till date
Between FNC, Talk Radio, Conservative and hard right conservative publications, Drudge, Breitbart and a host of other conservative to hardcore conservative online publications and websites, there are plenty of avenues for non-liberal media spin to influence public opinion. As I have mentioned, between Bannon, Aisles, Coulter, Hannity, O’Reiley, Jones and the Christian conservative evangelical talk radio Trump has had plenty of coverage to improve his favorables yet has failed to do so largely because of what he has said, his temperament, his constant lying, his past personal and business dealings etc etc. Aisles is the king of conservative media and he is a Trump advisor, Hannity has one of the most watched cable news shows in the US and he is a Trump advisor, Bannon ran Breitbart and is now running the Trump campaign..Coulter the darling of hard right conservatives and white nationalists is a die hard trump supporter.. Despite having these self confessed torchbearers of conservative media firmly in his camp he is well on the path of ending the elections with hundreds of thousands (if not more) of his own party men and women that would end up either not voting for him or switching sides. These candidates are unpopular and highly disliked..and besides policy and actual performance nothing is likely to affect their favourability ratings today, and approval ratings once elected.
My opinion is that most of polls are biased in favor of hillary because sample population was from democrats.
We shall soon find out!.
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I am surprise knowing what she/he is till date , American voter would vote for Hillary or Donald both are bad candidates that should not have even won their party nomination , They certainly deserve a better candidate may be Bernie or some one else irrespective of party.

Both candidate have their reputation tarred so much that that any foreign leaders would have any respect for them much less the American people who are forced to choose between an Evil and Moron.

I truly admire Ronald Regan what a great leader he was
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I am surprise knowing what she/he is till date , American voter would vote for Hillary or Donald both are bad candidates that should not have even won their party nomination , They certainly deserve a better candidate may be Bernie or some one else irrespective of party.
One could always write in. I'm not voting for either (but my state has a person on the ballot that I could support), unless the polls tighten in which case I couldn't get myself to vote for the narcissistic moron that would lock the GOP for 8 years.
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brar_w wrote:Between FNC, Talk Radio, Conservative and hard right conservative publications, Drudge, Breitbart and a host of other conservative to hardcore conservative online publications and websites, there are plenty of avenues for non-liberal media spin to influence public opinion. As I have mentioned, between Bannon, Aisles, Coulter, Hannity, O’Reiley, Jones and the Christian conservative evangelical talk radio Trump has had plenty of coverage to improve his favorables yet has failed to do so largely because of what he has said, his temperament, his constant lying, his past personal and business dealings etc etc. Aisles is the king of conservative media and he is a Trump advisor, Hannity has one of the most watched cable news shows in the US and he is a Trump advisor, Bannon ran Breitbart and is now running the Trump campaign..Coulter the darling of hard right conservatives and white nationalists is a die hard trump supporter.. Despite having these self confessed torchbearers of conservative media firmly in his camp he is well on the path of ending the elections with hundreds of thousands (if not more) of his own party men and women that would end up either not voting for him or switching sides. These candidates are unpopular and highly disliked..and besides policy and actual performance nothing is likely to affect their favourability ratings today, and approval ratings once elected.
I understand you want to support Hillary and I dont have any bone in US election.

Trump is a liar and disgusting person but Hillary is the biggest of them all and truly Evelish character.

What more worse this can be that she tried and successfuly brought her own party candidate down and her links with Media CNN etc are now out in public.

If she had any shame left she would quite and so would trump.
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I understand you want to support Hillary and I dont have any bone in US election.
I don’t support Hillary, its just that her opponent that the GOP (that I tend to vote more for than the other side) has managed to find will not earn my vote. I do however take objection to narratives that tend to attribute the current state of the GOP candidate’s standing in the polls to anything besides himself, what positions he has taken, and what he has said or done. Its like saying HRC's abysmal favourables are a result of the conservative media that has been hounding her for decades. I'd argue that SHE and only SHE is to be blamed for not being liked by so many Americans.

I've long said that this is a war of attrition and the last man/woman standing will win. The liberal media bias is there in some corners and has always (and will always) exist, however talk radio and FNC has brought in a sizable amount of conservative spin on TV and radio (which they practically OWN). Moreoever, Drudge and Breitbart have brought their own hard right spin to online and these have a HUGE following. Most of heavy hitters in the conservative media are not only rooting for Trump but are officially or unofficially advising his campaign. Why does a Sean Hannity spend money out of his own pocket to fly a potential Trump VP candidate to meet with him on a private jet?

Even within the traditional conservative media, its the conservative leaning news-papers and editorial boards that are deserting trump. Publications that haven't endorsed a Democrat in decades, some NEVER are now endorsing HRC. That's not her spinning the media to her advantage, but the GOP candidate LOOSING those that should have been easy pickings for him.

The GOP swept Congress under the umbrella of the same media, and it was the same conservative media and its activist wing that the tea-party leveraged to catapult itself into the limelight. Its escalated to a point where an all out civil war has erupted within the GOP and the Trumpanzees are all set to not only serve the WH on a platter to HRC but are also likely to give her the Senate as well. Their ring leader will spend the next week or two fighting his own party's leaders, some of who haven't come out and said that they won't for him. the liberal media isn't the cause of this, its the GOP and their candidate's fault.

Take a look at Utah polls that came out today. You would be hard pressed to find a more assured state for the Republicans. Romney won 74% of the votes in Utah, McCain 60+ %. Even Fox News has it now as a tossup-state (unthinkable even a couple of months ago) with an independent now having as much a chance as per the latest poll as the two main candidates.

What happens post election is however a different matter..People tend to rate presidents on how well internal affairs are going and that means mostly the economy.

Are you in India? If so, how much FNC have you gotten to watch this election cycle?
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