Philadelphia Inquirer’s biography on Gilani. Read it all:"When he would see an Indian person in the street, he used to spit, spit in the street to make a point.
i don't recall hitenullah graduating from LMU... but certainly he has learnt well!Hiten wrote:It is a conspiracy to defame the devout - pakistan govt did not even show any video of the seizure unlike the devout who did.NRao wrote: ***** films seized from Taliban jihadi hideout
Taliban, Pakis, ........................... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In fact, these ashleel films were the same films captured by the devout from the napak pakistani army officers who were ordered by the cia/musad/raw-sponsered govt to kill the devout.
The devout were merely holding on to them [& possibly studying them (purely for academic reason, of course) to further strengthen their argument why such material is haraam] for safe-keeping least the less-devout [on way to becoming most devout] accidentally stumble upon them and thus get diverted from the path of becoming a "full devout".
Today he backtracks that he ever meant thatGagan wrote:There you koofers, the job is finis.
South Waziristan operation is over, says Pak PMIslamabad: Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said on Saturday that the country's armed forces had concluded a vital operation against the Taliban in the tribal district of South Waziristan.
"The operation in South Waziristan is over, and now there is talk of an operation in (the neighbouring district of) Orakzai," Gilani told reporters in the eastern city of Lahore.
Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani backtracked on earlier comments on Saturday that a military offensive against the Taliban in South Waziristan had ended, saying the offensive was continuing.
In televised comments from Lahore, Gilani told reporters the military operation in South Waziristan had concluded, and the army may now shift focus to Orakzai Agency.
Operation continuing: But Gilani later said although the army had captured Taliban strongholds in South Waziristan, the offensive had not yet ended.
“I may have said it in a different context,” he told reporters in Karachi in comments broadcast live by state-run television.
“Our army operation in South Waziristan is going on quite successfully ... and I can’t tell any timeline [for its conclusion],” he said.{One remembers 6 to 8 weeks as the time frame given by the Army as the operation Rah-e-Nijat was launched on Oct. 17th. In a few days' time, it will be 8 weeks and the PM is now saying he cannot give any timeline for its conclusion ? Something wrong somewhere.}
East Pakistan tragedy happened when on December 16, 1971, the making of Bangladesh was officially announced and Pakistan's army, fighting in Bengal against insurgents and enemy forces, was asked to surrender. It is a day when one country celebrates its victory and the other mourns its debacle.
There were as many as 90,000 Pakistani soldiers and officers who were taken as prisoners by the Indian army.
Brigadier (retd) Hafeez Malik, who retired in 1995, served in East Pakistan as a captain and remained a prisoner in Indian jail for two-and-a-half years. "I was with my brigadier Muhammad Hayat, who passed away recently, at Khulna point when we got the message from the command to surrender," he said, adding, "It was a terrible moment. We were in a trench where my boss started striking his head with the wall protesting this message as we were committed to fighting to death."
Considering the whole nation collectively responsible for the debacle, he says many things are said about East Pakistan but mostly are rumors.
Hopefully after each unsuccessful attempt, these TFTAs were rounded up and soundly thrashed by the SDREs.Recalling his memories in prison, Hafeez said, "That was a terrible period. I spent two-and-a-half years in a jail in Agra where there was a lot of interrogation and many efforts to escape."
Lt Col (retd) Abdul Ghafoor: "It was terrible. I was rounded up. It was really a bad time. Our morale was down," he said, adding that he remained in Gawaliar for two years where there were two camps for PoWs. "Being prisoners, we did not expect a positive treatment. We were expecting repatriation. Meanwhile, some of the camp members (PoWs) ventured escape by digging two tunnels but these were detected. The Indians reacted very harshly. They locked us (about 10 colonels) up in two small rooms with bare floors and no electricity. It was a sizzling summer. We got one dry chappati each for the entire day. Thereafter, almost daily at midnight we were pulled out of our beds asleep, made to fall in outside, were counted by Indians and then dismissed," he recalled.
"As PoWs' repatriation started, I too was hoping for my return. But instead I, along with dozen other officers, was handcuffed and pushed in an army truck and were brought to Agra Central Jail at night after nearly 10 hours of a grueling journey. We were put in two small cells -- brick-floored with iron fences and no doors. (No door? How did they get in?) Next morning, we were shifted to large-sized barracks inside the jail where some 100 PoW officers were already there.
Inayat Masih, (A porki X'tian?) a former sweeper of Pakistan army, was sent from Karachi to Bengal during the war. "We were sent to India and I was in Breli camp along with hundreds of other army men. The way the Indian army subjected the prisoners to torture was horrible," recalled the poor sweeper, who is living in a local Christian colony in miserable conditions. He is still dreaming of a better future, good governance and unity in the country.
So if they were so brave and comitted to fight to the death, why didn't they do so? Surely they could have accheived their goal, and the Pak army would not have been able to court martial them either. So what was stopping them?Brigadier (retd) Hafeez Malik, who retired in 1995, served in East Pakistan as a captain and remained a prisoner in Indian jail for two-and-a-half years. "I was with my brigadier Muhammad Hayat, who passed away recently, at Khulna point when we got the message from the command to surrender," he said, adding, "It was a terrible moment. We were in a trench where my boss started striking his head with the wall protesting this message as we were committed to fighting to death."
Recalling his memories in prison, Hafeez said, "That was a terrible period. I spent two-and-a-half years in a jail in Agra where there was a lot of interrogation and many efforts to escape."
Lt Col (retd) Abdul Ghafoor: "It was terrible. I was rounded up. It was really a bad time. Our morale was down," he said, adding that he remained in Gawaliar for two years where there were two camps for PoWs. "Being prisoners, we did not expect a positive treatment. We were expecting repatriation. Meanwhile, some of the camp members (PoWs) ventured escape by digging two tunnels but these were detected. The Indians reacted very harshly. They locked us (about 10 colonels) up in two small rooms with bare floors and no electricity. It was a sizzling summer. We got one dry chappati each for the entire day. Thereafter, almost daily at midnight we were pulled out of our beds asleep, made to fall in outside, were counted by Indians and then dismissed," he recalled.
"As PoWs' repatriation started, I too was hoping for my return. But instead I, along with dozen other officers, was handcuffed and pushed in an army truck and were brought to Agra Central Jail at night after nearly 10 hours of a grueling journey. We were put in two small cells -- brick-floored with iron fences and no doors. (No door? How did they get in?) Next morning, we were shifted to large-sized barracks inside the jail where some 100 PoW officers were already there.
[/quote]Inayat Masih, (A porki X'tian?) a former sweeper of Pakistan army, was sent from Karachi to Bengal during the war. "We were sent to India and I was in Breli camp along with hundreds of other army men. The way the Indian army subjected the prisoners to torture was horrible," recalled the poor sweeper, who is living in a local Christian colony in miserable conditions. He is still dreaming of a better future, good governance and unity in the country.
Here GaganullahGagan wrote:Can anyone please post the video of the taliban capturing the ***** videos from the pak fauj captains? I tried looking online but can't seem to find the link now.
From here.Like so many western commentators, the authors berate the Muslim world, supposedly stuck in medieval torpor, for its failure to modernise. One had hoped that it was now understood that Lenin, Stalin and Hitler were not throwbacks to the Middle Ages. In their different ways, all three were radically modern – just like al-Qaeda today. If a certain type of pluralism appears only in modern times, the same is true of totalitarianism. There are many ways of being modern, some of them far from benign.
another NK - terroristan unholy nexas.
The aircraft was Russian, registered in Georgia. Its crew were from Kazakhstan and Belorussia. It was about to fly on to a refuelling stop in Sri Lanka when it was seized by police in Thailand - and found to be carrying 40 tonnes of heavy weapons from Pyongyang, the capital of North Korea.
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Since the collapse of international communism deprived it of its Cold War sponsors, many of North Korea’s traditional industries, such as mining, chemicals and textiles, have crumbled to ruins. It has, though, maintained a supply of foreign exchange through the sale of arms, principally missile parts. Over the years, North Korea is reported to have done business with the armed forces of Egypt, Iran, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan and Vietnam.
Military sources in Thailand speculated that the aircraft seized in Bangkok was probably bound for Pakistan.
Obama's long speech on Afghanistan barely mentioned Pakistan, which in 2005 suffered a single suicide attack and now – after the intensified American-led or directed assaults on Afghanistan, Swat and Waziristan – suffers several such outrages in a week. In the same speech Obama did not refer even once to India, with which Pakistan has fought three wars over Kashmir, and whose military occupation of the Muslim-majority valley remains the biggest recruiting tool for jihadists in Pakistan, such as those who led the terrorist attack on Mumbai a year ago. (Not much exaggeration is needed to indoctrinate them: an Indian human rights group last week published evidence of the mass graves of nearly 3,000 Muslims allegedly executed over the last decade by Indian security forces near the border with Pakistan.) Obama will of course speak of Afghanistan's neighbours when another jihadi assault on India, which is very likely, brings India and Pakistan closer to war, endangering America's campaign against the Taliban and al-Qaida. But it is also true that the historical and geopolitical relationships between India, Pakistan and Afghanistan may be too fraught for American foreign policy realists to reckon with.
In 1971, India facilitated the secession of Pakistan's easternmost province (now Bangladesh), provoking Pakistan's humiliated army and intelligence officials to pursue a policy of creating "strategic depth" against India by seeking Pashtun clients inside Afghanistan. In the 1990s, Pakistani officials who helped supply the mujahideen during the CIA-led anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan turned to fuelling the popular insurgency in India-ruled Kashmir, which since 1989 has claimed more than 80,000 lives. Throughout the decade, Pakistan's highly secretive intelligence agency, the ISI, trained and financed militant Islamist groups for jihad in Kashmir – even as it settled on the Taliban as its proxy in Afghanistan, which had been abruptly abandoned by the US following the Soviet withdrawal.
Obama himself identified Kashmir as the rusty nail in south Asia's body politic a month before he was elected. Discussing the situation in Afghanistan, he told Joe Klein of Time magazine that "working with Pakistan and India to try to resolve the Kashmir crisis in a serious way" were "critical tasks for the next administration". But, assuming the presidency, Obama inherited other, more strategic as well as lucrative national interests.
The Bush administration had wished to build up India as a strategic US ally and counterweight to China in Asia. Encouraged by an assertive Indian-American lobby, and American arms manufacturers, Bush offered an exceptionally generous civil nuclear agreement to India – which, unlike Iran, has long refused to sign the non-proliferation treaty. India is now finally an open market for US defence companies: Lockheed Martin alone hopes to cut deals worth $15bn over the next five years.
But Pakistan sees India as gaining "strategic depth" in its own backyard, using Afghanistan – where India has poured over a billion dollars in aid since 2001 and has four consulates in addition to its embassy in Kabul – to support secessionists in the troubled Pakistani province of Baluchistan.
As always, the road to stability in Pakistan and Afghanistan runs through the valley of Kashmir; and in making south Asia's primary conflict disappear, Obama now seems yet another exponent of that exhausted genre of magical realism.
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This author is Indian, is he not? So why on Earth are some people here insinuating at pro-Pakistan bias there in his piece.
The world needs more people like this man, people who can step outside their own culture's mythology of 'good' and 'bad' and see the world with such clarity, that even if you're side is abusing its power, you have the courage to stand up and say so.
What was that Dante quote? The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in times of great moral crises maintain their neutrality and I would add prejudice.
LAHORE: Ulema scuffled and exchanged harsh words at a meeting called to maintain law and order situation in Punjab during holy month of Muharram. The meeting was held at the Chief Minister House, Punjab today (Sunday) under the chairmanship of Senior Adviser Sardar Zulfiqar Ali Khosa. The tension began when a particular group of Ulema belonging to Bahawalpur highlighted an issue regarding removal of hoardings. As a result, Allama Tahir Asrafi and Maulana Ahmed Ludhyanvi exchanged some harsh statements, which led to the scuffle. However, the authorities present at the meeting controlled the situation. While on this occasion, media was barred from further coverage of the incident.
Ghar ka bhedi lanka dhahaye!bart wrote:Who needs Zahid Hamid, when Pankaj Mishra is here
Thanks a lot James BJames B wrote:Here GaganullahGagan wrote:Can anyone please post the video of the taliban capturing the ***** videos from the pak fauj captains? I tried looking online but can't seem to find the link now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp6EfBb7FE0
OT: I don't think that being from a small town has got anything to do with what he is doing now.sanjaychoudhry wrote:Pankaj Mishra is a white stooge who has sold his soul in return for foriegn awards. He doesn't mind conniving against Indians with the Goras. There are many Indians like him from small towns who want to make it big abroad, even at the cost of their race and country. Kanchan Gupta in Pioneer called him a traitor.
Who needs Zahid Hamid, when Pankaj Mishra is here
Do you have any link for that?jash_p wrote:Who needs Zahid Hamid, when Pankaj Mishra is here
Pankaj Mishra is alias name taken by a Paki called Parvez Misbah.
they were chucked in over the walls into a pit ?anupmisra wrote:Porki Ex-POWs reminisce wonderful times in India
We were put in two small cells -- brick-floored with iron fences and no doors. (No door? How did they get in?)
I don't think so.jash_p wrote:Who needs Zahid Hamid, when Pankaj Mishra is here
Pankaj Mishra is alias name taken by a Paki called Parvez Misbah.
Do you have any link for that?
If you can comment on that site, just point out that all the three wars were all started by Pakistan, and that too absent any provocation from India; that the "3000 Muslims executed near the border" are the infiltrators of the same kind of terrorist breed that the US is busy blowing away with Predator drones; and that 1950-1989 negligible jihadists were recruited to the "Kashmir cause" even though India's "military occupation" was just as present, so if Pankaj Mishra thinks this is important, he can ask Pakistan to revert to a pre-1989 policy.Obama did not refer even once to India, with which Pakistan has fought three wars over Kashmir, and whose military occupation of the Muslim-majority valley remains the biggest recruiting tool for jihadists in Pakistan, such as those who led the terrorist attack on Mumbai a year ago. (Not much exaggeration is needed to indoctrinate them: an Indian human rights group last week published evidence of the mass graves of nearly 3,000 Muslims allegedly executed over the last decade by Indian security forces near the border with Pakistan.)
golden words my friend..sanjaykumar wrote:If Mishra were not anti-Hindu, he would be unknown
Indian HC to Pakistan=islam Mr.G.Parthasarthy has/d first hand experience of Pakistaniant. He was invited buy a R.Ape belonging to Paki Islamic ruling class for dinner at home when little Paki girl came to room shouting Hindu Kutta at him.arun wrote:X Posted.
Philadelphia Inquirer’s biography on Gilani. Read it all:"When he would see an Indian person in the street, he used to spit, spit in the street to make a point.
Terror suspect was drug dealer, then informant
Must be Blackwater that did itLilo wrote:More than Rs500mn looted in country's biggest bank heist
Robin hoods in action in la la land.
pakistan having lost the Champion Challenge hockey finals, Hazrat jahil hamid had to modify a bit the speech he had prepared for wake up multanAES Corp., the U.S. power producer with operations in more than two dozen countries, said it reached an agreement to sell its stakes in Omani and Pakistani electricity businesses for about $200 million.
(even as it continues to increase investments in best friend Turkey and taller than mountain goat friend China}
Aap dekhte nahin hain what kind of amazing nashun we are? Jab poore moolk main suicide bombings ho rahi thi aur poora mulk mayoosi ka shikhaar tha....then out of no where Allah ke taraf se ek sign aata hai.......and we became the Champions Challenge hockey semi-final champions
Anarkali ji must've had such lasting impression on the aphsar that after being made to live in the closed confines of Indian prisons with fellow pakistani aphsars, this aphsar started blieving that (s)he is Anarkalianupmisra wrote:Porki Ex-POWs reminisce wonderful times in India
We were put in two small cells -- brick-floored with iron fences and no doors. (No door? How did they get in?)
. No doubt Indians constructed the room around them after putting the aphsars in middleIn an interview with an Arab television, Mr Qureshi said the international community supported Pakistan’s stand that it was not involved in the Mumbai attacks.
So it is acquital on the grounds that there is no probability of conviction!The applications contend that the charges against the seven, framed by the court on November 25, are not supported by the evidence provided by the prosecution, and seek acquittal under Section 256-K of the criminal prosecution code. The Cr.PC permits acquittal under this section if the judge rules that there is no probability of conviction of the accused
Piecing together what seems to be attempted -The applications took up three specific charges framed by the court against the seven — criminal conspiracy, unlawful assembly and abetment — and claimed that there was insufficient evidence to prove these charges.
What is the probability that the money lands into the hands of the Talibs...maybe the Taliban have infiltrated into such "private" security firms for doing just what they did.Lilo wrote:More than Rs500mn looted in country's biggest bank heist
Robin hoods in action in la la land.
It would be bordering on a slapstick comedy routine if the issue was not so serious. The daily drama we are witnessing in Islamabad and Lahore of US nationals in four wheelers with tinted glasses breaking the law and refusing to submit themselves to the law enforcement authorities. Without IDs but often with prohibitive bore weapons (without licenses), these Americans are held for a few hours and then released unconditionally after pressure from unknown Pakistani sources and the US embassy and consulate. At a time when not only the founder of Blackwater, but also the CIA, have both admitted that this company is working in Pakistan and till now was in cahoots with the CIA itself; questions are being raised about why US nationals are deliberately indulging in this game of brinkmanship with the law of the land - almost deliberately drawing attention to themselves. Is this mere muscle flexing to send a message to the Pakistani public at large about US power and penetration in their country? Or is there something more to it all?
Before looking into this question, two points also need to be made about Interior Minister Rehman Malik. First, he had committed to resigning if the presence of Blackwater could be proven in Pakistan. Well, if the CIA itself is saying they were working with this company in Pakistan, there should be no need for any other proof! On a more important note, though, Mr Malik has offered some ridiculous explanation as to why the Pakistani law enforcement agencies can’t do anything to the Americans breaking the law in Pakistan. This is simply not correct factually in terms of international law and diplomatic practices. First, even diplomats carrying their IDs can be stopped by police and searched - they can’t be prosecuted for a crime unless they waive off their immunity. But more important, those with no IDs and with no diplomatic immunity can certainly be stopped, searched, arrested and charged under the law of Pakistan. Merely working for the US embassy or Consulate does not give diplomatic immunity to the person concerned. In fact, many US nationals working for their government do not have diplomatic status and therefore immunity, including most of their covert operatives. Certainly the private security company personnel have no diplomatic immunity at all, even though the US diplomats may constantly be coming to their rescue. Legally, though, they can only ensure that their non-diplomatic detained citizens get access to legal services and are looked after properly. They can’t compel the Pakistani authorities to release them. Equally important, in legal terms, is the fact that even US diplomats with the immunity can only publicly carry arms if they have been permitted to do so by the host government. So Mr Malik should stop covering up for what now clearly seems to be an acquiescence by the Interior Ministry to these armed activities of US nationals - many of them neither US officials nor diplomats.
First, weapons are being transported by the US across the country and for every vehicle the police manage to stop, a few will be getting through. This seems to be a pattern now - to use one vehicle effectively as a live decoy for others to get through. The assumption correctly being that the caught decoy would eventually also be set free through US pressure. Our officialdom has played well to this US tune despite individual police officials who have sought to counter the pressure. What and who is receiving these arms would be interesting but with General Durrani, former head of ISI, also conceding that Blackwater has a hand in Pakistan’s bomb explosions and the Pakistani authorities need to give this US-terrorism link in Pakistan more attention.
This US link to terrorism has to be understood in the context of not only keeping the country destabilised, but also of hoping to push the people more sympathetically towards the US and against the militants. While the latter has happened, the former has not and the US is being blamed equally for the increase in terrorism in Pakistan. If more overt proof of the linkage was needed, the arrest of the five Americans in Sargodha is there. How could these people come together to Pakistan, evade the FBI, get visas and so on? And why is the US in such a hurry to have them deported? It is in Pakistan’s security interests to ensure these five are not deported as we may learn a lot about the US and its dirty covert games in this country.
Why did we lose half of our country in 1971? Because when a handful of military and civilian bureaucracy members were usurping the rights of the people of East Pakistan, the rest of us in West Pakistan remained oblivious and insensitive. East Pakistanis were exploited by the West Pakistan-dominated central government. Linguistic, cultural and ethnic differences contributed to the further estrangement of our east wing. West Pakistan, despite having a smaller population, had the larger share in total revenue and industrial and infrastructure development projects. Pakistan’s military and civil services were also dominated by West Pakistanis. Also, only one regiment in the Pakistani army was Bengali.
if iam allowed to use paki logicarchan wrote:
What is the probability that the money lands into the hands of the Talibs...maybe the Taliban have infiltrated into such "private" security firms for doing just what they did.
