Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2010

[James B]

TFT Selected Nuggets

Columnist Nazir Naji wrote in Jang that the people had not so far allowed the clergy to rule Pakistan but the way non-mullah politicians were behaving in power it was quite possible that the mullahs could be elected to power in the future. Once they take over they will subject the people and their rival mullahs to horrendous punishments.(Isn't it happening even otherwise?)

Quoted in daily Islam, Punjab senior adviser Zulfiqar Khan Khosa – who hails from DG Khan in South Punjab – stated that banned terrorist organisations were recruiting youths in South Punjab and offering them salaries of Rs 16 and 20 thousand. He however denied that there were any terrorist centres in South Punjab.

Reported in daily Islam great orator of hate-speech and leader of jihad against the West, Zaid Hamid was prevented from speaking at Lahore’s Tech Society . He was scheduled to speak at the society which became known to Anjuman Tahaffaz Khatm Nabuwwat who sent their activists to Society and the Society was forced after that to cancel Zaid Hamid’s statement.

Writing in Jang, Nazir Naji stated that the Objectives Resolution opened the gate of ‘exclusion’ of communities in Pakistan. The clergy that pressured the Muslim League to embrace the Objectives Resolution later created an environment that led to the apostatisation of Ahmadis. But now the stage was being set to mete out the same treatment to the Shia who are being killed by terrorist groups as far away as Gilgit and as near as Khyber-Pakhtunistan.(the purification process continues)

Reported in Nawa-e-Waqt, two PPP members of Punjab Assembly fell upon each other (gutham-gutha) after a brief quarrel. Fauzia Behram delivered a slap on the face of Sajida Mir, whereupon Sajida Mir picked up a gamla (flowerpot) and flung it at Fauzia Behram which missed her and hit a driver. After that the two went into a clinch pulling hair and delivering blows in the midst of unprintable exchange of hot words.

Daily Pakistan reported that Musarrat Khosa – the wife of a prominent PPP leader and member of cabinet in Islamabad, Lateef Khosa – was deprived of Rs 22 lakh in cash in the form of dollars which she carried to a shop in Liberty Market in Lahore. She forgot it on a counter and left it open, which resulted in its disappearance. Daily Jang reported that Mrs Khosa’s case became complicated when she deposed that her purse contained dollar and pound notes of 1000 denomination. Such notes do not exist in the US and the UK.

[James B]

TFT - Diary of a Social Butterfly

We’ve come home from London to bore Lahore and found two things. One that rains are still here and two that Kayani is also still here. Khair rains tau will pass away after two three weeks but God knows how long Kayani will stay. Detention jo uss ko mil gayee hai na. Funny, vaisay, how elected prime ministers can never finish their terms and how generals ki terms never finish. Haina?Janoo is very depress. Ten years of Ayub he says. Eleven of Zia. Eight of Musharraf. God knows how many of Kayani.

But between you and me, I think so Janoo’s gone a bit crack. Ever since the Data Darbar blast na, he’s become so low, so low keh pooch hi na. Or maybe it wasn’t Data Darbar, maybe it was the killing of Ahmadis or maybe Moon Market ka blast that sent him over the hedge or maybe it was from even before from the attack on Sri Lanka ki team or maybe it was the killings in the mosque in Isloo after the last Eid or the terrorist attack on Bombay. Aik tau there have been so many blasts and killings keh I’ve tau lost tracks. What I’m telling you is that Janoo is cracking up. A bit like Pakistan itself, I suppose.

So anyways instead of sitting at home and getting all depress with Janoo, I went to see Jonkers. He’d been hurt in the Data Darbar blast na. He had a big fat bandage round his head and was still shocked jaisa. So much weight he’d lost also. ‘Hai Jonkers,’ I said, ‘how’ve you lost so much of weight? Tell na. I also want to loose the pounds I’ve put on my hips from eating all those junks in London.’

‘Easy, Apa’ he said with a crooked sa smile. ‘Just go to a congested public place and hang about till a bomb explodes. If you don’t get blown to bits – which in fact will solve all your weight problems instantly – the smell of singed flesh and the sight of flying body parts and the sound of children’s screams ringing in your head for weeks afterwards should do it.’‘Haw Jonkers,’ I said. ‘What you’re saying?’

And then he laughed in a weird sa way and said, ‘Fasten your seat belt Apa. We’re in for the ride of our lives. Apne hifazati bund ka chaptta hissa lay kar.. .’

‘I think so I should be going, Jonkers,’ I said quickly. I got up to go and in my hurry I left my new Versace ka bag on his sofa. So he called out from my behind, ‘Jaatay waqt apna dasti saaman lay jana mutt bhooliye. Hamaray saath suffer karnay ka bohat shukriya. Allah hafiz.’

I think so I’ll go back to London. In Pakistan tau everyone’s crack.

[NikhilB]

Some excerpts from deaf n' dumb forum discussing about pakis' options in case US decides to attack them -

...an attack by USA and what we should do to prevent such an outcome, If its inevitable that USA will concoct such a plan to attack Pakistan then I think its games over for Pakistan, period!. And in that case, we only have one option left and yes you have guessed it we take India down with us, because after USA attacking and leaving Pakistan in about 10 years time we will be at the mercy of Hindus for another 100 years to come and our children will never forgives us, because unlike Iraq we don’t have oil to rely on, we will have no external investment we don’t have it now and its never after we are living in the stone ages! basically we will never recover.

We know ISI and TSPA is full of such rabid biogots.

Are our strategy thinkers and army ready for this ? Do we even think this could happen ? So when, US decides to attach pakis, we also have no choice than to join the team to finish them off ASAP.

[sanjaykumar]

Well there is a dust-bowl town not too far to the west of paganland that agni could purify given enough slokas being muttered.

[James B]

Khaled Ahmed in TFT on Kayani's extension- excerpts

One institution is too strong: A TV discussion featured ex-ISI and ex-MI boss General (Retd) Asad Durrani losing his cool after a discussant accused the army of stepping out of line on the Kerry-Lugar Bill. He wrongly said that the army – read General Kayani – had the right to put on record its objections to something that was seen as a wrong move by the PPP coalition. It was a retired general saying this with a measure of arrogance on TV, but it revealed the firmly embedded mindset of the army on matters it thinks it must control outside the ambit of its jurisdiction. No retired general in India would have acted cockily like Durrani. This however is enough to prove that we are dealing with a different kind of beast in Pakistan. The beast includes the combined power of institutions overstepping their boundaries and footloose politicians joining in for another bout of ‘toppling’. It is often said that Pakistan’s institutions are weak; the truth is that one institution is too strong. It is this one institution that causes imbalances in the others.

Rightwing PMLN and rightwing army: It is said that Mian Nawaz Sharif didn’t want the extension in principle. We can’t ascertain whether Mian Sahib has internalised this ‘principle’ but it is quite clear that he and the army have a view of each other which can best be described as wary. Whether we like it or not, there is a triangular relationship between the three power centres: the PPP fears the army because of a well-settled military tradition of viewing the PPP as ‘security risk’; the army fears the PMLN because of its inherent power to dominate the military top brass and even to fire army chiefs. Thereby hangs a paradox which must be explained. The power to fire possessed by Nawaz Sharif emanates from his capacity to create pro-PMLN coteries of officers within the army. In other words, the fear he inspires in the top-brass is genuine.

But that leads us to the next argument. Why is Mian Sahib opposed to granting an extension to General Kayani ‘in principle’? The example he quotes – of wrongly promoting General Musharraf instead General Ali Kuli Khan – is not relevant because we are talking extensions here. Is it that Mian Sahib fears the PPP may have made itself politically secure by ingratiating General Kayani? There was a time when Mian Sahib was half-willing to forgive General Kayani for facilitating the exit of General Musharraf, and that was during the lawyers’ movement in favour of Chief Justice Chaudhry. He may have realised later that the general was actually feeling more cosy cohabiting with a scared and pliable PPP. What does an army running Pakistan’s foreign policy want: a tough cookie like Mian Sahib or a scared-pup Zardari made to draw in his ‘pro-India’ horns by the ‘Mumbai project’ in 2008?

Popular anti-India emotion and Kayani: How can we interpret the meeting Shehbaz Sharif had with General Kayani late last year? Was Kayani, who won his rightwing spurs in the media talking to Urdu columnists in Lahore, compromising the PMLN? Would it be correct to say that Mian Sahib’s muffled objection to his brother meeting the army chief was based on the principle of not hobnobbing with the army? Or was it something else? If you focus on Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, who was once again the go-between, you may feel justified in saying that he is the emblem of the PMLN’s lobby inside the army that actually inspires all army chiefs with fear and inclines them to be seen as conciliatory rather than as hostile to the big rightwing political party. It is the army’s rank-and-file leaning in favour of the PMLN that challenges the supremacy of the army chief.

The crux of the pragmatist argument is that supremacy of the army springs from Pakistan’s India-centric nationalism, and General Kayani represents a popular consensus on the current geopolitical situation: continue to challenge India, insist on Pakistan’s veto on the change in Afghanistan, and challenge the US on its growing closeness with India, with the help of China. Any logical mind in the West would say this is a complex strategic manoeuvre which may not be within the resources of Pakistan to execute. A straightforward solution would be to normalise with India, but that will not gibe with Pakistan’s non-linear mind. As army runs the India policy after putting to rest any pretensions of statesmanship on the part of President Zardari, General Kayani leans on the time-tested device of ambivalence in a tough spot.

What does it matter, in the final analysis, if democratic ‘normalcy’ is postponed yet again? Our generals can become like their counterparts in India only after the supremacy of the army on the basis of our nationalism is finally dismantled, when foreign policy becomes the domain of the elected government, and the politicians learn to evolve a new formula for defining ‘national interest’ – based on economic benefits, please - outside the permanently fixed ‘national security state’ paradigm compelling the entire nation to dream of a ‘just war’ with India. General Kayani’s ambivalence – which makes the Taliban and the Americans suspect him in equal measure – has made his extension possible.

[James B]

What do Critics Say about Kayani's extension - TFT

Ikram Sehgal hailed the decision in his July 24 article in The News saying, “The ongoing war, the availing of geo-political circumstances, and his track record in dealing with foreign powers makes Kayani much needed.”

Speaking to the The Guardian , Kamran Shafi said, “It augurs badly for democracy in this country. The last time a civilian government gave a military chief an extension, it was General Ayub Khan. Later, he took over and ruled the country as a dictator for a decade, in the first of four military dictatorships. It’s been downhill ever since.”

Ayaz Amir in The News on July 23 also painted a dark picture of the appointment stating, “Gen Ashfaq Kayani on horseback: no image inspires the virtue-cum-patriotic brigades more than this… Pakistan’s troubles are due in large part to the heroism of previous saviours on horsebacks.”

Following this tone, Dr Ayesha Siddiqa in her article for Express Tribune on July 25, questioned, “Is it that other officers don’t have the same level of competence? Or, perhaps, the US government was convinced that the rest of the generals might contain a surprise like General Ziaul Haq. What does one make of an organisation that begins to depend on personalities rather than processes?”

Talat Hussain writing for the Express Tribune on July 26 held that Kayani’s term “has only extended this illusion that he is crucial to winning against domestic terrorists … it has given an incompetent civilian set-up three more years to pass the buck onto the army in doing the job which they should be doing themselves.”

Babar Sattar echoed the sentiment in The News on July 26 claiming: “The extension granted to the army chief runs contrary to the need for our civilian governments to take incremental steps towards asserting control over the army in accordance with our Constitution.”

Defence Analyst Shuja Nawaz in his article titled Kayani, a man for many seasons in Foreign Policy (July 23) said that Kayani’s extension will affect the career paths of nearly a dozen lieutenant generals who will retire before Kayani’s new term expires. “A major advantage that might accrue is that the certainty provided by the new term for the army chief will allow the civilian government to become confident in asserting itself in policy matters, knowing that the army chief will not overtly intervene in its affairs”, added Nawaz.

Reporter Ansar Abbasi in The News on July 23 thought otherwise: “Extensions and post-retirement re-employments in services, whether civilian or military, do no good to the institutions unless they are really inevitable because of the unique expertise of the retiring official.”

[mayo]

Fareed Zakaria on Jon Stewart Show talking about the leaks. It is worth a watch.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-j ... ed-zakaria

[ManuT]

UK PM Cameron’s Visit and his tough talking to Pakistan. Since UK is no part of A.A.A for Pakistan, it could be the money talking. Talk is cheap, need action.

Year 2002
Tony Blair’s visit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1746339.stm

1 Week later
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/1756476.stm
Britain is reported to be pushing arms sales worth £1bn to India, despite fears that its dispute with Pakistan could spill into war.
Saturday's Guardian newspaper says government ministers have been pressing India behind the scenes to sign a £1bn contract with Britain's BAE systems, for 60 Hawk jets.

And it says Britain will have a large presence at an arms fair in Delhi next month, with about 30 British companies expected to be present - financially backed by the government-funded Trade Partners UK.

The news comes only a week after Prime Minister Tony Blair visited India and Pakistan in an attempt to defuse tensions between the two countries, centred around the disputed region of Kashmir.

[pgbhat]

Pakistan does not deserve David Cameron's insults

But following the country’s return to democracy, Pakistan has become a valued and effective ally in the war on terror, and has suffered immeasurably more casualties than Nato as its military has gone head-to-head with the Taliban in the lawless tribal territory to the north of the country. For this reason David Cameron should be praising Pakistan’s contribution, rather than castigating Islamabad as he has done during his visit to neighbouring India.

[Vivek_A]

The article posted by pgbhagat is by Con Coughlin. His name really reflects his game.

He was big on the Saddam had WMDs/Saddam was behind 9/11 thing...

[JwalaMukhi]

Islamism is on a tenous and loosing ground. But Unkil is not ready to go for the kill to finish of islamism. Unkil has lot of use for the islamism. The paki army which is principal bearer of islamism is propped up every so often on the grounds, that the islamism be contained within the subcontinent.

Every so often, the paki army conducts raids on India (especially whenever there is change of Jernails in paki army) to prove its eunuchood. It is more than just proving eunchood, it is delibrate demonstration of “islamism directed and contained within the subcontinent”. So every Jernail, wants to show that all is well in terms of islamism being used as prescribed, before begging and GUBO for aid.
Unkil finds this as a very cheap option to maintain its stranglehold on these islamist thugs.

Occasionally, the overzealous jihadis in uniform engineer attack on some western interests. This is when things get interesting. Unkil goes on overdrive to separate “good taliban” versus “bad taliban” while giving clean chit and funds to paki army. The money given to paki jihadi army by unkil is well spent and it is not out of fear, that it is doled out. It is the cheapest option. West is not afraid of islamism, it can confine it to dustbin when push comes to shove.

In short Unkil is thoroughly in bed with Islamism and is providing all kinds of lifeline to it; because it is a very useful tool to weaken many competitors. Although, on surface it looks like “natural allies”, in reality on the issue of islamism; unkil and India are going to be in opposition for a very long time.

[Prem]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/81a36724-9b37 ... ab49a.html
.Cameron escapes diplomatic crisis with Pakistan

David Cameron, the UK prime minister, narrowly escaped a full-blown diplomatic crisis on Thursday when Pakistan reluctantly buried its outrage at his warning to stop “promoting terror” during a visit to arch-rival India.Mr Cameron’s remark that Pakistan was “looking both ways” on exporting terrorism had threatened to trigger a breakdown in relations before a planned visit by Asif Ali Zardari, president, to the UK next week. -: Cameron needs to be more subtle - Jul-29.Podcast: World Weekly with Gideon Rachman - Jun-03..Mr Cameron’s blunt language stung Pakistani officials, who have become accustomed to public praise from senior US officials who often visit Islamabad to apply more discreet pressure for action against militants. Mr Cameron later stressed that he had not meant to accuse the government of promoting terror but had been referring to elements in Pakistani society who sympathise with extremists, but the damage was done.Furious Pakistani officials had considered recalling Pakistan’s high commissioner to London for consultations and postponing Mr Zardari’s planned trip indefinitely, a Pakistani official told the Financial Times. Islamabad settled for issuing a statement saying it was “saddened” by the accusations

[anupmisra]

Height of insensitivity
Dr Mervyn Hosein (A name that we all recognize)

We are bankrupt! Financially, intellectually and most certainly, morally.

[SSridhar]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/81a36724-9b37 ... ab49a.html
Cameron escapes diplomatic crisis with Pakistan

Mr Cameron’s blunt language stung Pakistani officials, who have become accustomed to public praise from senior US officials. . . Furious Pakistani officials had considered recalling Pakistan’s high commissioner to London for consultations and postponing Mr Zardari’s planned trip indefinitely, a Pakistani official told the Financial Times. Islamabad settled for issuing a statement saying it was “saddened” by the accusations

The Americans have not always been praising the Pakistanis. Ms. Clinton has openly accused the Pakistani Government, no less, of harbouring Osama. However, Cameron's rebuke stings because that was made on Indian soil.

[anupmisra]

A wet towel by ... Roedad Khan
More like white flag. Some nuggets. Full of cliches and rabble rousing, paki style.

A carnival atop a volcano

Realism does not exist in Islamabad because life in Islamabad is itself a fiction.

Behind the constitution, there is an unwritten constitution which governs the state.

Prime Minister Gilani, known for his sartorial elegance, is obsessed by externals and is addicted to appearances with a passion for clothes, collar and cuff.

These are dangerous times in our country. These are also anti-elitist times. Angry mobs are howling for retribution. Pakistan is seething in ferment and in disarray. This is dangerous. Under an imbecile and feeble government, as we have today, there is but one step from discontent to revolution.

In Pakistan, as in geology, things can look perfectly stable on the surface - until the tectonic plates shift underneath. The straws in the wind are there.

Sixty-three years after independence, are we really free?

Today say "Pakistan" and what comes to mind – military coups, sham democracy, an accidental and powerful president, a non-sovereign rubber-stamp parliament, and a ceremonial prime minister. Today Pakistan is not just a "rentier state", not just a client state -- it is a slave state, ill-led, ill-governed by a power-hungry junta and a puppet government set up by Washington.

If you want to see the chasm between the grotesquely rich and the abject poor, come to Pakistan.

Pakistan today is a land of opportunities for corrupt, unscrupulous, unprincipled politicians holding fake degrees, dishonest civil servants, smugglers and tax-evaders who have bank accounts, luxurious villas, mansions and apartments in the west.

If you want to see how a free nation is stifled by authoritarian corrupt rulers through its own apathy and folly, visit Pakistan.

Today Pakistan – battered, its pride bruised – is a pretty pessimistic place. One by one, the lights are going out.

Tyranny is retreating everywhere except in Pakistan. The rule of law marching everywhere except in Pakistan.

Zardari is the fault line that has fractured our country.

The world failed to foresee the tidal pull of events in 1979 that swept away the Shah of Iran. The Iranian army, one of the best in the region, could not save him or itself from the wrath of the people. The world may soon see this historic event repeating itself in Pakistan.

Then Khan breaks out into sher-o-shayarie (poetry) just like many pakis do to express their deep down frustration levels. In case you are wondering, Roedad Khan is a retrired senior bureaucrat and a paki to the hilt.

[abhishek_sharma]

Failing Pakistan's minorities

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... minorities

[abhishek_sharma]

Imprisoned Beliefs

Forget re-education camps for terrorists. Jailed extremists in Pakistan are kept in isolation -- from anyone who might change their mind about waging jihad.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... ed_Beliefs

[amit]

amit, One last time to don't bring in India in the TSP thread. Please consider this as a caution. You can duck but it wont save you next time. If you want to talk about Indian there are many threads for that.

As you wish Ramana ji.

But I do hope this rule applies to everyone irrespective of whatever their POV is.

[Rudradev]

It's interesting that the circumscribed Non dong did not take off and neither did the Pacquis issue a plausible statement like bad weather etc. Me thinks Dhobis in GHQ are running out of soap washing brown pants.

That may be so.

Or, they may have tested it, and it failed (Hai Allah!) Nodong is Cheeni maal after all. And as usual, the TSPA blacks out all reports of its failed bum/mijjile tests... can't be seen as going limp after all the raakit-mard posturing, especially in these dangerous times.

[abhishek_sharma]

Mullen asks ISI to shift its strategic focus

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 235225.cms

[SSridhar]

But I do hope this rule applies to everyone irrespective of whatever their POV is.

Amit, you should not tell the Forum Administrators what their job specification is.

[amit]

But I do hope this rule applies to everyone irrespective of whatever their POV is.

Amit, you should not tell the Forum Administrators what their job specification is.

My bad Sridhar. And apologies to you and Ramana.

But it would have helped if I knew exactly what transgressions I did with my post which was about the report that Anzas were being given by the ISI to Taliban and the fact that the US did not consider that to be an act of war despite its aircraft being shot down. Also how this seemed to be pretty similar to the apparent reluctance on the part of India to call a spade a spade.

Anyway I'll impose a cooling down period on myself.

Thanks all for tolerating my posts.

[SSridhar]

Pew Global Attitude Survey for 2010

When asked which was the bigger threat, Taliban, Al-Qaeda or India, 53 percent chose neighboring India over 23 percent for the Taliban and only three percent for Al-Qaeda.

[SSridhar]

Faux Pas - Edit by The News on Cameron's speech at Infosys

It is unusual for a politician at the level of Mr Cameron to be so forthright in his views, especially so given the delicacy of the balance that exists between us and India. It would have been unusual if he had said what he did in London, but to say it in India elevates it to a different plane entirely.

Our high commissioner in London was swift to respond to the effect that he hoped that Prime Minister Cameron had made a 'slip of the tongue' and his remarks were not meant as a slight to Pakistan. "He is new in government; maybe he will soon learn how to handle things," remarked the high commissioner. We trust that Mr Cameron is a quick learner, for all our sakes.{Look at the arrogance and temerity of an impoverished, beggar nation living on dole out, double-crossing the very nations that give it the dole, sponsoring terrorism and proliferation all over the world. Amazing}

[Pratyush]

SS sar,

Expecting humility from TSP is akin to the sun rising from the west. Aint gonna happen.

On second thoughts. Do the Pakis conduct a course in boorish and arrogant behavior for Diplomats. Or they are selected because they show such behavior at home. Every interaction that I have seen from the worthies of TSP. It was loaded with such behavior.

[anupmisra]

PIA plane catches fire; passengers remain unhurt

Pinglish not withstanding, the pakis are going to see conspiracies everywhere now.

KARACHI: Earlier, a loud blast was heard in an engine of PIA’s flight PK-302, a bowing commercial plane, when the airliner was preparing to take off on early morning.

The flight was bound to Lahore from Karachi meanwhile rescue vehicles, fire tenders and police mobile vans immediately surrounded plane for relief activities and to determine the loss of life or goods if happened.

Luckily no passenger and crewmembers were unhurt and was off boarded safe and sound.

[derkonig]

^^^
Is that all for the fridin?

[shravan]

^^^
Is that all for the fridin?

More than 300 dead in Floods..There will be no IED's today


Floods kill at least 313 in KP, PoK

[A Arun]

A Paki wrote on Twitter

Social worker, Mr. Prem Chand, aged 26, died in the Airblue crash. His coffin was marked "Kaafir". This is Pakistan and I am ashamed. AGAIN!

[SSridhar]

X-post from PRC thread

India protests to China over its proposed road & rail link with Pakistan

“India has clearly conveyed to China its consistent position that Pakistan was in illegal occupation of parts of Jammu and Kashmir since 1947 following reports that China was building a rail line and highway in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir,” the United News of India quoted Mr Krishna as telling the Rajya Sabha.

Mr Krishna’s written statement came in response to questions by deputies. He said that India had conveyed its concern to China and asked it to cease such activities.

China was regarding Kashmir as a bilateral matter to be settled between India and Pakistan, Mr Krishna said while answering the questions.

He said the government had seen reports to the effect that China was seeking to build a railway line and highway projects in PoK, New Delhi’s name for Azad Kashmir, and it had taken up the issue with them.

The government would keep a constant vigil on all developments having a bearing on India’s national interest and take all necessary measures to safeguard it, UNI quoted the minister as saying.

[anupmisra]

A Paki wrote on Twitter

Social worker, Mr. Prem Chand, aged 26, died in the Airblue crash. His coffin was marked "Kaafir". This is Pakistan and I am ashamed. AGAIN!

There was another Hindu named Dr. Suresh on that illfated flight. No two guesses what his coffin was marked as.

[bart]

Some excerpts from deaf n' dumb forum discussing about pakis' options in case US decides to attack them -

...an attack by USA and what we should do to prevent such an outcome, If its inevitable that USA will concoct such a plan to attack Pakistan then I think its games over for Pakistan, period!. And in that case, we only have one option left and yes you have guessed it we take India down with us, because after USA attacking and leaving Pakistan in about 10 years time we will be at the mercy of Hindus for another 100 years to come and our children will never forgives us, because unlike Iraq we don’t have oil to rely on, we will have no external investment we don’t have it now and its never after we are living in the stone ages! basically we will never recover.

We know ISI and TSPA is full of such rabid biogots.

Are our strategy thinkers and army ready for this ? Do we even think this could happen ? So when, US decides to attach pakis, we also have no choice than to join the team to finish them off ASAP.

This is hilarious. Bakra says if attacked by leopard it will also take down the neighborhood tiger while getting eaten.

[SSridhar]

ISI Chief cancels UK visit to protest Cameron's India Speech

[Lalmohan]

^^^ why only him, suarly zardari should be the one cancelling, what with him being head of state and all?

[SSridhar]

Zardari is going to the UK expressly to beg. So, he will have to go. The ISI chief's cancellation is a symbolic protest. They have to show their people that Pakistan will not tolerate abuse, especially from the Indian soil.

Besides, this could be a Kayani decision as ISI comes under him. The freshly painted Kayani is raring to go.

[Manishw]

Some excerpts from deaf n' dumb forum discussing about pakis' options in case US decides to attack them -

...an attack by USA and what we should do to prevent such an outcome, If its inevitable that USA will concoct such a plan to attack Pakistan then I think its games over for Pakistan, period!. And in that case, we only have one option left and yes you have guessed it we take India down with us, because after USA attacking and leaving Pakistan in about 10 years time we will be at the mercy of Hindus for another 100 years to come and our children will never forgives us, because unlike Iraq we don’t have oil to rely on, we will have no external investment we don’t have it now and its never after we are living in the stone ages! basically we will never recover.

We know ISI and TSPA is full of such rabid biogots.

Are our strategy thinkers and army ready for this ? Do we even think this could happen ? So when, US decides to attach pakis, we also have no choice than to join the team to finish them off ASAP.

In case Pakis want to indulge in these fantasies It should be made clear to all paki lurkers that in turn their taller...friend would feel the heat of Indian nukes and T.N warheads and which would in turn insure that that our planet goes up in flames.Enough of this nuke blackmailing.

[Lalmohan]

prospects of an IED mubarak in Londonistan are increasing...

[RamaY]

Zardari is going to the UK expressly to beg. So, he will have to go. The ISI chief's cancellation is a symbolic protest. They have to show their people that Pakistan will not tolerate abuse, especially from the Indian soil.

Besides, this could be a Kayani decision as ISI comes under him. The freshly painted Kayani is raring to go.

Another thing is that they have to show that Army/ISI represent the true (wannabe) mood of the nation. Political leadership are there to beg and feed the rest of the family, including the arrogant children.

[munna]

prospects of an IED mubarak in Londonistan are increasing...

Just being Chankian, but that may help justify even more immigration curbs on Paqland and may truly cook the goose of Mirpuria and Pakjabi gang in London. Will be fun to watch if Paquis actually go ahead and make it easier for UK to be shifted to a Tory agenda. Moreover most of the Crore commanders have property and money stashed in London because they are afraid of doing so in US (fear of confiscation you see). Should some of them suddenly develop an urge to win Darwin award then they can kiss goodbye to that flat in Chelsea, Mansion in Berkshire or estate in Hillingdon. If US controls the state finances of Paquis then personal finances are definitely in the hands of Englistan.

[Rangudu]

Has anyone seen this pic before?