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See how Italy treats the citizenship issue for its immigrants, and compare it with how one Italian wields a long political stick in Bharat.
Just imagine how NYT had cried wolf if India had adopted such a rule.
Bloodline? Migration Is Complicating Both.

In a world where people are more mobile than ever, nations are struggling to recalibrate who can be a citizen.

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Noura Ghazoui, 34, in Genoa, Italy, this month. “I feel Italian, I think in Italian, I dream in Italian,” Ms. Ghazoui said. “But I am not recognized in my country.”Credit...Alessandro Grassani for The New York Times
Emma Bubola

By Emma Bubola

Reporting from Rome
Jan. 29, 2025

For two summers during high school, instead of joining her classmates at the beach, Noura Ghazoui had an internship at the town hall of her hometown, Borghetto Santo Spirito, on the Ligurian coast.

But when she tried to apply for a job there at age 19, she found herself ineligible because, like hundreds of thousands of children born to immigrants in Italy, she could not get Italian citizenship.

“I feel Italian, I think in Italian, I dream in Italian,” Ms. Ghazoui said in Ligurian-accented Italian. “But I am not recognized in my country.”

For generations, European countries have used mostly bloodlines to determine citizenship. The United States was an exception in the West as one of the last countries to grant citizenship unconditionally to virtually anyone born there.

President Trump’s order seeking to end birthright citizenship for the American-born children of undocumented immigrants, which a judge temporarily blocked last week, would bring the United States one step closer to Italy and other European countries.

But rising numbers of migrants in the United States and Europe have set off debates on both sides of the Atlantic over whether the systems for bestowing citizenship need to be updated in some way, either moderated or stiffened.
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Makeshift shelters outside an immigration office in Rome. Some wait overnight to secure the chance to apply for a residence permit.Credit...Alessandro Penso for The New York Times

Each approach — known by the Latin terms “jus sanguinis,” or right of blood, and “jus soli,” or right of soil — has its critics, and increasingly, countries have sought to rebalance the two.

Since the 1980s, Britain and Ireland (as well as Australia and New Zealand), which still had unconditional birthright citizenship, have moved in a direction similar to what Mr. Trump has chosen, limiting it.

But others, like Germany, have gone the other way, making it easier for people born to immigrants to gain citizenship. The shift, supporters say, nodded to the changing realities of a country where one in four people now comes from an immigrant background.

“Citizenship is a politically contested issue,” said Maarten Vink, the co-director of the Global Citizenship Observatory. “When it changes it reflects the outcome of a political struggle.”
A Tug of War in Europe

In Europe, bloodline citizenship has helped maintain ties with citizens who leave the country, and their descendants. But most countries in Europe also offer some form of birthright citizenship, though usually with tough restrictions.

In Europe, citizenship has at times been mixed with dangerous concepts of racism and ethnic purity, especially in colonial times and during the Nazi era, when Hitler’s regime stripped Jews of their citizenship before killing them.
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Today support for limiting access to citizenship for immigrants, as well as securing borders, is not found only on the far right. But the arguments have been harnessed by some of the continent’s extreme right-wing forces, who speak of a need to preserve cultural and ethnic identity.
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Lining up outside the immigration office in Turin, Italy, this month. Most countries in Europe offer some form of birthright citizenship, though usually with tough restrictions.Credit...Alessandro Di Marco/EPA, via Shutterstock

“We must stop migratory flows,” Jordan Bardella, the president of the far-right National Rally in France, said earlier this month. “Many French people, including even some who are of immigrant descent, no longer recognize France and no longer recognize the country they grew up in.”

Mr. Bardella’s party wants to abolish law that allows the children of foreigners born in the country to apply for citizenship at 18, as long as they meet minimal residency requirements.

While citizenship has often been described as a vehicle for belonging, it has also been a powerful means of exclusion, said Dimitry Kochenov, a professor at the Central European University and the author of the book “Citizenship.”

“Citizenship has been used by the state in order to denigrate certain groups,” Mr. Kochenov said.
The Italian Example

In previous centuries, a much poorer Italy was a country from which millions of citizens emigrated abroad, mostly to the Americas, in search of a better life. Generous bloodline citizenship rules helped Italy maintain a link with the diaspora.

Even today churches and town halls around Italy are clogged with requests from Argentines, Brazilians and Americans who have the right to claim citizenship through distant Italian ancestry. (Most recently, President Javier Milei of Argentina obtained Italian citizenship.)

But Italy has in recent decades turned from a land where people emigrate into one that also receives large numbers of immigrants. And while Italy has changed, its citizenship law has not.
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Javier Milei and Giorgia Meloni lean together in discussion.
President Javier Milei of Argentina and Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni of Italy at the Trump inauguration in Washington. Mr. Milei has recently obtained Italian citizenship.Credit...Pool photo by Saul Loeb

Italy does not grant citizenship to the children of immigrants who have legal status in the country. The Italian-born children of immigrants can only apply for citizenship once they turn 18; they have one year to apply and must prove they have lived in the Italy the whole time.

That ruled out Ms. Ghazoui, who spent part of her childhood in Morocco, where her parents are from. Now, 34, an employee at a company providing naval supplies, she has an Italian husband and an Italian child, and applied for citizenship based on protracted residency in the country.

“I am the only one in the house who is not Italian and not recognized,” she said.

While the public health-care system in Italy makes no distinction between citizens and noncitizens, second-generation children of immigrants face numerous hurdles. About 600,000 children born to immigrants study in Italian schools. They have often known no other country than Italy, but with no claim to citizenship, their lives are complicated.

Many cannot travel around Europe on school trips, and have to miss school or renew their residence permits. They also say they are constantly reminded that they are different from their classmates. Many Italian-born adults are in the same situation.

“Precariousness becomes the basis of your life,” said Sonny Olumati, 38, a dancer and choreographer who was born in Rome to Nigerian parents and still does not have Italian citizenship. “You create a sense of non-belonging.”
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Sonny Olumati sits on concrete cylinders in a grassy area.
Sonny Olumati, 38, in Rome this month. “Precariousness becomes the basis of your life,” said Mr. Olumati, who was born in the city to Nigerian parents and still does not have Italian citizenship.Credit...Alessandro Penso for The New York Times

Italy’s leaders support the law as it currently stands. Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, a hard-line conservative whose Brothers of Italy party has post-Fascist roots, has said that “Italy has a great citizenship law.”

Tying the citizenship of children to that of their parents is convenient, Ms. Meloni argues, in case the immigrants return to their countries. She also said that she had higher priorities than changing the citizenship law.

Despite the government’s position, grass-roots associations proposed a referendum that would reduce the period of uninterrupted residence in Italy needed to become an Italian citizen to five years from 10. The vote is set to happen in the spring.

“This law does no longer represent the real Italy,” said Alba Lala, 27, the secretary of CoNNGI, a group that represents new Italian generations. “It’s completely outdated.”
Birthright in a Modern Age?

Some critics say much the same about unconditional birthright citizenship.

About 20 percent of countries use it, most in North and South America. The United States and Canada inherited the law from Britain, but birthright citizenship also fulfilled an important role in the newly independent countries as a way to constitute a nation.

Like those who favor bloodline citizenship, birthright advocates say it promotes social cohesion, but for a different reason — because no child is left out.
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Ms. Ghazoui and others sit at a table in a room with white walls.
Ms. Ghazoui at a community program in Genoa. She has an Italian husband and an Italian child, and applied for citizenship based on protracted residency.Credit...Alessandro Grassani for The New York Times

In the United States, the 14th Amendment allowed men and women of African descent to become citizens, and millions of children of Irish, German and other European immigrants became citizens as well.

But unconditional birthright citizenship remains an exception.

“In a world of massive migration and irregular migration, unconditional jus soli is an anachronism,” said Christian Joppke, a professor of sociology at the University of Bern.

Still, some argue that the Trump administration is not setting out to modernize a law but instead is trying to redefine the nation itself.

“It rejects the idea of America as a nation of immigrants,” said Hiroshi Motomura, an immigration and citizenship expert at the University of California, Los Angeles, School of Law.

Even under the current rules in the United States, birthright citizenship is not absolute. They exclude, for instance, the children of diplomats born in the United States. And most children of American citizens born abroad maintain an automatic right to American citizenship — in effect bloodline citizenry.

Citizenship by descent “is a really good way to connect with people who live outside the borders of a state,” said Mr. Vink. “But if you want to ensure you are also being inclusive within the borders of a state, you have to also have territorial birthright.”

Otherwise, he said, countries would have millions in their population who are not citizens.

“In a democracy,” he said, “that is not a good principle.”

Christopher F. Schuetze contributed reporting from Berlin, and Aurelien Breeden from Paris.

Emma Bubola is a Times reporter based in Rome. More about Emma Bubola
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Looks like the 55th state is getting prepped up

US will take over Gaza and own it, Trump's big remark
In a surprising announcement, President Donald Trump said the United States 'will take over the Gaza Strip', 'own it' and undertake economic development there that will create 'unlimited numbers of jobs and housing'.

Trump made these remarks on Tuesday during a joint press conference in the White House with visiting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu standing beside him.

Asked about the possibility of sending US troops to Gaza, Trump said the US would 'do what is necessary' as he laid out plans for the US to take the area over, and suggested he would visit the territory.

When asked about the US taking over a sovereign territory and whether it would be a permanent occupation, Trump said, "I do see a long-term ownership position, and I see it bringing great stability to that part of the Middle East, and maybe the entire Middle East."

Trump also suggested that the US develop the land but gave no details on who would be allowed to live there. :mrgreen:

When asked who does he envision living in the Gaza Strip after it is rebuilt, Trump said, "I envision world people living there. The world's people. I think you'll make that into an international, unbelievable place. I think the potential in the Gaza Strip is unbelievable. And I think the entire world, representatives from all over the world, will be there, and they'll live there. Palestinians, also. Palestinians will live there. Many people will live there."

He said this decision was not made lightly and everybody he has spoken to about it 'loves the idea of the US owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs with something that will be magnificent in a really magnificent area that nobody would know, nobody can look because all they see is death and destruction and rubble and demolished buildings falling all over, just a terrible, terrible sight'.
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I have always believed the only real solution for the Palestine issue is to resettle Gazans in Jordan, merge west bank with Jordan and Gaza with Israel, and strike a deal with Jordan for compensation - like 10B per year for 20 years or something like that. Palestine area peoples are essentially Jordanians. Palestine is a manufactured identity to continue conflict with Israel. Palestine state is simply not viable and will only perpetuate the conflict with Israel.
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Manish_P wrote: 05 Feb 2025 10:41 Looks like the 55th state is getting prepped up

US will take over Gaza and own it, Trump's big remark
In a surprising announcement, President Donald Trump said the United States 'will take over the Gaza Strip', 'own it' and undertake economic development there that will create 'unlimited numbers of jobs and housing'.

Trump made these remarks on Tuesday during a joint press conference in the White House with visiting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu standing beside him.

Asked about the possibility of sending US troops to Gaza, Trump said the US would 'do what is necessary' as he laid out plans for the US to take the area over, and suggested he would visit the territory.

When asked about the US taking over a sovereign territory and whether it would be a permanent occupation, Trump said, "I do see a long-term ownership position, and I see it bringing great stability to that part of the Middle East, and maybe the entire Middle East."

Trump also suggested that the US develop the land but gave no details on who would be allowed to live there. :mrgreen:

When asked who does he envision living in the Gaza Strip after it is rebuilt, Trump said, "I envision world people living there. The world's people. I think you'll make that into an international, unbelievable place. I think the potential in the Gaza Strip is unbelievable. And I think the entire world, representatives from all over the world, will be there, and they'll live there. Palestinians, also. Palestinians will live there. Many people will live there."

He said this decision was not made lightly and everybody he has spoken to about it 'loves the idea of the US owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs with something that will be magnificent in a really magnificent area that nobody would know, nobody can look because all they see is death and destruction and rubble and demolished buildings falling all over, just a terrible, terrible sight'.

US reviera of middle east is a grand plan to checkmate Chinese influence
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this is a continuation of the earlier idea I2U2 and IMEC corridors.
Gaza was in the way for this corridor.

Also, there has been discovery of gas fields near Gaza coast.
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I think it was Ramana ji, who a couple of years ago had pointed out that all the important ancient trade routes are getting strategically important again.
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Lots of speculation, hearsay on this topic: Has Trump found a way to end the Russia-Ukraine war?
Pgurus take:
youtube.com/watch?v=x5b8nX-X_Jw

// take it for whatever it is worth! none of them firmed up.
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> - like 10B per year for 20 years or something like that.

Who is going to pay?
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What's Trumps position on the planned Chagos Islands transfer by the UK to Mauritius ?

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China is increasingly under scrutiny over its influence inside NATO especially the smaller Baltic countries that are a part of NATO., it increasingly looks like they are trying to facilitate a conflict between USA and Russia !.. once the dust settles it will cement China’s rise as the pre eminent world power !.. without firing a single shot

Tzu’s Art of War ! ..winning without fighting :evil:
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I haven’t heard from anyone yet but I always thought that Chicoms weaponised US institutions against the US from Eleven’s time by encouraging the ambitions of Dumbocrats not unlike our Khangressis except may be they were spectacularly successful in achieving that in the run up to Covid … somehow that has started reversing now
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Bohut Maza Aayaa . . . .

JD Vance attacks Europe over migration, free speech

U.S. vice president stunned the audience with his broadside on the way Europe is run.


https://www.politico.eu/article/us-vice ... wtab-en-us
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Bohut Maza Aayaa . . .

NATO is in disarray after the US announces that its security priorities lie elsewhere

https://apnews.com/article/nato-us-euro ... wtab-en-us
Reading the riot act to U.S. allies, Hegseth said that Ukraine will not get all its territory back from Russia and will not be allowed to join NATO, which would provide the ultimate security guarantee to ensure that Russian President Vladimir Putin never attacks it again.
He insisted NATO will not be involved in any future force that might be required to police the peace in Ukraine. European and other nations will, but the Europeans will have to pay for it. No American troops would take part in such an operation, he warned.
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U.S. Vice President JD Vance rips through the European security conference.. worth listening
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A must watch response from Dr Jaishankar (starting at 20 minutes in the video) to the discussion in the Munich Security Conference about the health of democracies around the world. He forcefully bring out the point that the European view of the state of democracy is not applicable to the entire world. I think he re-emphasized the point that Europe's problems are not the World's problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WicbZv8v6F0
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Kanoji wrote: 15 Feb 2025 14:35 A must watch response from Dr Jaishankar (starting at 20 minutes in the video) to the discussion in the Munich Security Conference about the health of democracies around the world. He forcefully bring out the point that the European view of the state of democracy is not applicable to the entire world. I think he re-emphasized the point that Europe's problems are not the World's problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WicbZv8v6F0
Best part was at the end when he talks about targeting of outlier parties and if Indian ambassadors did what western ambassadors do, Europe will be up in arms :lol:
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...What do western ambassadors do in India, if my ambassador, if my ambassador does a fraction of that, you will all be up in arms..." EAM Dr S Jaishankar at Munich Security Conference on outreach to outliers...

https://x.com/sidhant/status/1890584498066129237

dr js at munich
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https://youtu.be/tO_qk2CTcyU

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz Fires Back at JD Vance: "Germans Will Decide Their Democracy!"

https://youtu.be/uEr2Rm85ztY

German Chancellor Scholz 'Disgusted' By Elon Musk
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drnayar wrote: 15 Feb 2025 20:43 ...What do western ambassadors do in India, if my ambassador, if my ambassador does a fraction of that, you will all be up in arms..." EAM Dr S Jaishankar at Munich Security Conference on outreach to outliers...

https://x.com/sidhant/status/1890584498066129237

dr js at munich
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The question I have is why is India not up in arms in the face of blatant interference and manipulation in India's internal affairs by foreign ambassadors who are 'guests' in the country?!
Only strength is respected internationally not niceties which only encourages attitude of superiority and entitlement.
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Pepe makes some interesting points amidst the current Trumpmania

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https://youtu.be/9V2M9MOD3o4?si=4WQhtqSdpEoYI4gc
Jaishankar, Stubb, Huntsman, Nusseibeh, Tocci on Geopolitical Shifts in 2025

Very good session, I classify as must-listen.
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Just saw it. Brainless EU elites are in headless chicken mode!
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From the above, Dr Jaishankar:
I think you use the word Samir, about overheads, okay. I found it very interesting that the first foreign policy engagement of this Administration consciously was the Quad. What's so nice about the Quad it has no overheads it's a kind of a it's going dutch, everybody comes pays the bill and and you know it's it's fair right so look if we are looking actually at a different vision of architecture.
The post-WW2 architecture was that you allied with the US and the US gave you a lot of money and arms and goodies. It was probably necessary for a few years after WW2 while overcoming the devastation of the war; but should have ended long ago. The Quad architecture is the future; Atma-Nirbhar Bharat is ready for it; Europe is not yet ready; and countries like Pakistan or Bangladesh simply don't get it.

IMO, Europe damaged itself in its vitality in not being able to stand independently from the USA. The Trump shock will be painful, but ultimately be good for it.
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The post-WW2 architecture was that you allied with the US and the US gave you a lot of money and arms and goodies.
Then came Bretton Woods and the unlimited printing press which helped finance some 800 military bases across the world, the MIC became more powerful than the Govt, had CIA, State Dept, DoD totally under control, the communism threat justified NATO, wars and régime changes all over the planet to control oil and resources.

In trying to over extend Russia using Ukraine as proxy it's the US that got overextended and they are now sacrificing (albeit a willingly blind and ideologically dumb) Eur!ope to escape and save the once mighty Dollah.

US under Biden was resisting the sweeping global changes using the same old arm twisting tactics. Under Trump it is being a lot more realistic, trying to cut down overheads, re-engineer and rewire itself to be able to bounce back in a multipolar world.

EU, like the washerman's dog is neither a country nor a nation and looks set to decline fast, very fast. They are not even speaking about saving the Euro, oblivious to the printing press they also have been running though at a subtle and smaller scale with no resources or forces to defend its money nor it's borders.

Amidst all this, Bharat has a decade or so left to reinvent itself inside out to stake it's claim in the multipolar new order. Just being the self appointed mouthpiece of the global south won't do. Else we will end up being the nice guys who finish last and somber into cheap workforce supplier to geriatric master nations.

We cannot and must not let that happen.
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RFK Jr: The war in Ukraine is a money laundering scheme for BlackRock.

"They're doing this right in front of us. They don't even care that we know anymore, because... they have a strategy."

"And that strategy is an old, old strategy, which is they keep us at war with each other... They keep the Republicans and Democrats fighting each other, and black against white, and all these divisions that they sow."


source : https://x.com/wideawake_media/status/18 ... 1379237163
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x posted from the Modi 3.0 thread


No room for coercion: Jaishankar's veiled dig at China during G20 ministers' meet

Jaishankar said that the member nations must also recognise that multilateralism itself lies deeply damaged and that the UN and its Security Council are often grid-locked.


In a subtle dig at China, External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar said there must be no room for coercion, and, in a push for plurilateralism, stressed that the global agenda cannot be narrowed down to the interests of a few.

Speaking at the first G20 Foreign Ministers’ Meeting in Johannesburg, Jaishankar said that the member nations must also recognise that multilateralism itself lies deeply damaged and that the UN and its Security Council are often grid-locked.

During the foreign ministers' meeting, held in the runup to the G20 Summit to be held in Johannesburg on November 22-23 this year, Jaishankar firmly stated that international law, especially the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) of 1982, must be respected.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/s ... 2025-02-21
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As Donald Trump calls Ukraine’s President Zelensky a “dictator” and the US enters peace negotiations with Putin’s Russia, former MI6 boss Sir Alex Younger and former Financial Times Moscow Correspondent Catherine Belton discuss how the White House is paving the way for a “new era” of international relations.
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I don't know how many considered this possibility.
The purpose of the self-destructive policies of Democrats in the USA and by the EU is to create a civil war-like situation and then use that as an excuse to impose emergency powers and stay in power for an indefinite period. An example is Zelensky of Ukraine. But it will come at the cost of economic destruction.

Importing millions will create an excuse for wealth redistribution (Socialism), which will pull down the middle-class people to the bottom, and they will be ready for protests in the streets. Mass importing and pampering of Islamic hardliners will help to ignite the riots and civil war.

From an Indian point of view, many would say that such an outcome will be desirable because of the long history of anti-India policies by both the USA and Europe.

But it could be very risky in the long term because it involves an open border policy for Islamic hardliners, and they could have a share in the power in future.
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Why the gold audit at Fort Knox could cause a global economic shakedown?

Also, why the Bank of England is moving *LOTS* of Gold to the Us repository

And be mindful BoE holds Gold from a lot of countries including India !!


https://youtu.be/vPcadia93no
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Explosive

Why Baniansky is the worst sort of human being ever imagined

https://youtu.be/T0DE7JWI5hA


Donald Trump just called Zelensky a dictator. Human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam has worked in Ukraine for the past couple of years and confirms that if anything, that’s an understatement
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and the hits just keep on coming, serious nations are to paraphrase looking to publish tomorrow's news yesterday, ours yesterday's news today.. if it finds the time to be distracted long enough from the silly matters that it vaunts as news

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsi ... of-matter/
Microsoft announced Wednesday that it has invented an entirely new kind of quantum computer. Its new quantum chip, Majorana 1, is a quantum processor analogous to transistors in classical computers’ semiconductor chips and offers a path to million-qubit systems in a single relatively small quantum computing fridge. That would enable the creation of a single quantum computer which would be more powerful than all classical computers on the planet. It would be incredibly useful for things like designing new battery substrates, inventing new drugs, simulating nuclear fusion reactors, inventing post-quantum cryptography methods, and much more.
The Majorana 1 takes its name from the Majorana zero mode, a tiny and mysterious form of matter that is a quasiparticle which acts like half of an electron and, unlike matter and antimatter, is its own antiparticle. (Imagine a pair of shoes: a Majorana zero mode is like a left and right shoe simultaneously.) Microsoft uses Majorana zero modes because they can store quantum information in a way that’s resistant to errors.

Microsoft believes that this development, a long 19 years in the making, will enable the construction of commercially usable and viable quantum computers within five years.

Microsoft has already built an eight-qubit proof of concept, which it has submitted to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency and has resulted in the company’s inclusion in DARPA’s final phase of the Underexplored Systems for Utility-Scale Quantum Computing (US2QC) program.
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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

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a very exhaustive report on biorevolution along with a pdf that goes into much detail

https://www.cnas.org/publications/reports/biopower

https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/file ... _final.pdf
The biorevolution is upon us. Converging breakthroughs in biological sequencing, engineering biology, and machine learning are ushering in an almost science fiction–like world in which humans can manipulate and even design the building blocks of life with increasing sophistication—for good or ill. In this world, cutting-edge biotechnologies will create organs, capture carbon emissions, restore polluted environments, tailor medicines to a person’s genes, and replace vulnerable supply chains for food, fuel, fabrics, and firepower with domestic biobased alternatives. According to one estimate, existing biotechnologies could have a direct economic impact of $4 trillion a year for the next 20 years.1 As innovation continues, the ceiling could be far higher.

If next-generation biotechnologies hold great promise, they also come with gathering perils from new bioweapons, intrusive biosurveillance, and the race for biotechnology breakthroughs without adequate safeguards for public health, the environment, and democratic values. For policymakers, the question is not whether the biorevolution has transformative power, but which nation will responsibly harness that power to unlock new tools for defense, health, manufacturing, food security, environmental remediation, and the fight against climate change. No country is better positioned to lead the biorevolution than the United States, but it requires that policymakers act now with swift, ambitious, and far-sighted steps to secure America’s place as the global biopower.

The United States enters the biorevolution with formidable tailwinds—an unrivaled innovation ecosystem, world-leading research institutes, unmatched private investment, talent, and a global network of democratic partners and allies. Recent federal investments and an emerging policy framework have fortified U.S. leadership. But in this fast-moving field, settling for gradual progress will guarantee falling behind as competitors like China race to eclipse the United States with ambitions to scale up their biotechnology research, innovation, talent, and infrastructure.

To secure America’s place as the global biopower, the Trump administration and Congress should accelerate U.S. tailwinds through greater investment in biotechnology research and infrastructure, especially in sectors beyond health and medicine; expand the pipeline of biotalent; and lead globally to drive biotechnology norms, standards-setting, and responsible adoption. At the same time, policymakers must navigate headwinds that could imperil further progress—specifically, an underdeveloped national biomanufacturing infrastructure; insufficient public and private investment that flows overwhelmingly to biotechnology research and development (R&D) in the health and medical sectors; a lack of uniform federal standards, definitions, and codes; a morass of conflicting policies and regulations; inaccessible and insecure biodata; and low public awareness and trust in emerging and ethically fraught biotechnology applications. This report outlines several recommendations to shore up America’s position as the preeminent biopower, including an investment of $20 billion in new federal funding. Policymakers should view this level of investment as the floor of what it will require to secure U.S. biotechnology leadership.
Regardless of what U.S. policymakers do, countries around the world are moving swiftly to embrace the biorevolution. The United Kingdom (UK) is driving innovation by concentrating and sharing its biodata through the UK Biobank, which houses the fully sequenced genetic codes of 500,000 people.2 France has invested roughly $9.5 billion through Innovation Santé 2030 to drive biomedical research.3 Japan has committed $3 billion to promote its biotechnology ecosystem.4 South Korea is carving out a niche in digital biotechnology and aims to transition 30 percent of its manufacturing industry to biomanufacturing within a decade.5

If any nation can surpass the United States as the global biopower, it will be China. In its most recent five-year plans, Beijing made explicit its ambition to become a biotechnology “superpower.” It is well on its way. China’s biotechnology leadership has surged on the back of significant public investment, long-term policy prioritization, a massive domestic market, decades of largely unrestricted capital flows, and the amassing of biodata through licit and illicit means.6 China’s concerted biotechnology push has already paid dividends: its scholars rank second in the world for authoring biomedical papers, and the country leads high-impact research in biofuels and biomanufacturing. China’s high-impact research in synthetic biology is more than triple that of the United States, posing a high risk of monopolization.7 Today, China is a global biomanufacturing powerhouse that exports roughly 40 percent of the world’s active pharmaceutical ingredients.8 Now, China aspires to move up the biotechnology value chain with a renewed push to support start-ups, integrate its vast biodata with cutting-edge machine learning tools, and dominate emerging markets for biotechnology with “national champions” such as BGI Group and WuXi Biologics, as it did with Huawei and 5G.

China’s ambition to close the gap with the United States should inspire action from policymakers to secure and extend America’s lead. To that end, this report outlines a series of immediate and longer-term recommendations in six key areas for leaders in policymaking and industry:
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Jeffrey Sachs' Explosive Address at the EU Parliament Sends Shockwaves Across Europe!

calling out the CIA regime changes

Why Ukraine should have stayed neutral to save its territory

This is explosive stuff .. right across the face !

https://youtu.be/ZUbBU0OqCgE
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As the $hit has now literally hit the fan and is on all the EU , the collective meltdown and identity crisis has led to a soul search... and where would all those EU commissars go ?

Bharat!


Where indeed there is unity in diversity

What a world we live in.. and as the Chinese say , interesting times
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These unelected bureaucrats aka commissars are a waste of our time and chai biskoot budgets (which already shrunk big time under Modi).
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US join Russia on a vote on Ukraine !!

The UN has adopted Ukraine’s resolution condemning Russian aggression and demanding the immediate withdrawal of Putin’s forces, marking the war’s third anniversary.
***The U.S. joined Russia, North Korea, Belarus, and Hungary in opposing the resolution***
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drnayar wrote: 25 Feb 2025 03:27 US join Russia on a vote on Ukraine !!

The UN has adopted Ukraine’s resolution condemning Russian aggression and demanding the immediate withdrawal of Putin’s forces, marking the war’s third anniversary.
***The U.S. joined Russia, North Korea, Belarus, and Hungary in opposing the resolution***
I did not think I would live in world where US and Russia vote together on one side while India Abstains!
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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

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Britain is struggling to accept the end of Atlanticism
https://www.ft.com/content/762cd291-2a6 ... 0f9ee31a6e
21 Feb 2025
Britain remains a nuclear power only because the US supplies Trident missiles to carry the atomic warheads.
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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

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Guys I am still struggling to digest all the changes that are happening all at the same time. Seems weird that US would backflip that quickly and cooperate with the bear. What’s next - a bridge across Alaska on the Bering sea ? ?

Is there the risk of an asteroid or something outwardly that is causing this ? :lol:
Everyone uses the D$ word but I can’t find the trigger… all conspiracies only … like Covid, AGI, gold standard etc
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