venkat_kv wrote: ↑15 May 2024 05:32
I know a lot of people are doing their bit, i was alluding to Sanman Saar who seems to be really passionate about this issue and wants the Indian govt to do the heavy lifting. I was merely alluding that since he strongly feels in this way maybe at the very least he can try to form coalition of all the other sensible people versus khalistanis and it will take a very very long time, but people will have to do it.
Kanadda is a very small country (population smaller than the Delhi NCR). It is being torn apart by the khalistani organized gangs. India will not be affected much by any of this, most of this drama is media hype. It's just a peripheral distraction/nuisance for India.
So yes, all these Kanaddu fellows sitting in Kanadda and posting about what India should be doing, should rather spend their time trying to set their own country right. India will help its diaspora, but not interested in wading into politics of these tinpot countries.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 18 May 2024 02:52
by sanjaykumar
With respect to visa officers in India, I doubt they would have that kind of discretion.
The ones obvious observation in Canada is that there are many fewer Bhappa Sikhs here than jats or even so called low caste Sikhs. (There really ought to be a better term. I detest using “low caste”).
Are fewer Pappe applying? Are they being turned down? Do they even want to come to Canada? Some of the jat Sikhs are infact wanting to return to India. They are not overawed by the place. I guess the difference is not as stark as it was 10-20 years ago in standard of living quality of life and children’s education.
A lot of these students are like the job migrants in the Middle East. Perhaps not even fit for employment in white countries.
At least they get to call themselves expatriates not unemployable-at-home.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 18 May 2024 04:58
by Vayutuvan
A_Gupta wrote: ↑17 May 2024 22:10
Perhaps Sri Lankan Tamils have also used this route.
A huge number of Srilankans settled in Zurich circa 1983-85.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 18 May 2024 05:00
by Vayutuvan
sanjaykumar wrote: ↑18 May 2024 02:52
(There really ought to be a better term. I detest using “low caste”).
sanjaykumar wrote: ↑18 May 2024 02:52
(There really ought to be a better term. I detest using “low caste”).
Scheduled category?
I would just say "traditionally poorer communities" -- this word "caste" is a British colonial hangover popularized under their reign of divide-and-rule, and which certainly needs to be retired from our lexicon. Our lexicon needs to serve our needs, as opposed to the needs of those who only want to continue divide-and-rule from afar.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 18 May 2024 07:29
by sanjayc
Just call it "Jaati" - why translate? It is a non-translatable term. Jaatis are communities with a shared bond of a common deity and ancestor
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 18 May 2024 08:09
by SBajwa
A_Gupta wrote: ↑17 May 2024 22:10
> How does Trudeau’s Canada manage to attract “Panjab”’s finest?
a. Liberals who have gone insane. Giving asylum to people who are genuinely persecuted for non-extreme political or religious belief is meritorious. Giving asylum to anyone who claims political/religious persecution without any vetting is stupidity in the extreme. It is natural for people to exploit this.
AFAIK, a similar situation existed a couple of generations ago with the Ukrainian population in Canada. Perhaps Sri Lankan Tamils have also used this route.
b. There is a sizeable Khalistan-supporting population with Canadian citizenship and with a voting bloc and money for political contributions. To pander to them, Trudeau will not crack down on bad visa decisions made by the Canadian consulates in India. The Khalistanis are interested in keeping their numbers growing and will want to lure youth from India.
c. Possible criminality - if visa brokers like EthicWorks manages to get someone a student visa in days which normally takes many weeks, and does so with a hefty charge to the applicant; and manages to do this as a business; and on the other side, we see Canadian immigration officials in India issuing student visas with zero criminal background check and zero check of proficiency in English, both of which are against official Canadian policy, then it is possible that there are kickbacks taking place.
off course! with travel agents in almost all cities in Punjab, Chandigarh, Haryana advertising that they can get you study visa to UK, Canada, USA and Australia with much ease and help with IELTS (TOEFL) tests too. These Travel agents do indeed work with Khalistani (and Punjabi drug gangs) lobby who wants to keep this loop of "political asylum" open as a last resort (after the "student" realize that he/she cannot study much longer due to his/her own limitations) or to when use it for murders, drug donkeys, etc.
This is similar to Travel agent named Tahawwur Rana in Chicago who got multiple reentry visa in to India to ISI (cia) double agent named David Headeley (Daood Gilani) through forged name, documents, etc.
sanjaykumar wrote: ↑18 May 2024 02:52
(There really ought to be a better term. I detest using “low caste”).
Scheduled category?
socially distressed .....
those marginalized by circumstances of birth
historically discriminated
communities unjustly assigned a social identity that disadvantages them into enduring a socioeconomically disenfranchised and menial status
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 19 May 2024 10:03
by A_Gupta
I won't provide the link but:
> CBC News senior reporter Evan Dyer breaks down his exclusive reporting on the arrests made in connection to the murder of Hardeep Singh Nijjar, and the increasingly blurring lines between organized crime and Indian foreign policy.
CBC, Evan Dyer.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 20 May 2024 00:21
by sanman
Khalistanis used Punjabi criminals to target enemies in Canada & now they’re facing blowback
Joseph Stalin: "One death is a tragedy, but a million deaths is just a statistic"
Canadian authorities: "One Nijjar is a tragedy, but 329 air passengers is just a statistic"
Nijjar's death has prompted Canada to change its laws and give its police a "duty to warn" -- but the deaths of 329 air passengers never prompted any similar "duty to warn".
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 21 May 2024 16:58
by chetak
NIA submits chargesheet against Canada-based Arsh Dalla and 3 of his aides in Khalistani terror-gangster nexus case
NIA charge sheets Arsh Dala’s close aide in terror-gangster network case
Dala, according to NIA, was an infamous gangster in India who fled to Canada. He was declared an ‘individual terrorist’ under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act in 2023.
In Canada, Dala came in contact with Hardeep Singh Nijjar (killed by unidentified persons in June 2023) who was the chief of KTF, and the duo engaged in the recruitment of youth and the formation of terrorist gangs for carrying out extortion for raising funds for KTF and for carrying out the targeted killing of businessmen and leaders of particular communities in Punjab, NIA had said in July last year.
^ This new terrorist is operating from the Philipines! The whole thing reminds me of that scene from the Godfather where the crime family switches from unlawful activity to lawful business in Las Vegas. Except here they have switched from execution style terrorist activity to drug running and extortion.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 24 May 2024 20:02
by sanman
New Canadian Bill to Allow Foreign-Born Parents to Pass Their Canadian Citizenship to Their Foreign-Born Kids
sanman wrote: ↑24 May 2024 20:11
Canada's economy is imploding, quality of life is plunging - but visiting US senators call for Canada to boost its military spending to help NATO
Official sources told The Sunday Guardian that one of the four arrested youths in the killing of Nijjar is the 22-year-old Kamalpreet Singh, son of Satnam Singh Bagri, a resident of Chakkalan village, Nakodar block, Jalandhar, Punjab.
What is not known to many is that Chakkalan is also the native village of Maninder Boyal (spokesman of the Sikh Gurdwara Council in Canada) and a close associate of Nijjar. More interestingly, it is also the village of Ajaib Singh Bagri, who is a close associate of Ripudaman Singh Malik.
A global jihadist movement continues to grow in Canada—beyond Khalistan
By Praveen Swami.
Published on 29th May 2024.
A nice read. Detailing the growth of a globalist jihadist movement within Canada.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 30 May 2024 01:33
by Amber G.
Ontario University faculty pass a resolution condemning Indo-Canadians, specifically, for a “caste system” and “colorism.”
So Ontario, 70% white, is targeting Indians on the basis of a “caste system” that was actually imposed by British colonial masters, and accusing them of “colorism” that is actually explicit in this resolution specifically targeting just Indian Canadians for censure and special policing.
Another lesson in gaslighting, courtesy of university professors @OCUFA
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 30 May 2024 08:46
by sanjayc
^^ Strangely, they remain silent on othering of rest of humanity as "non-believers" and condemning them to hell every Sunday in church. Discrimination against non-believers is the major issue facing the world today
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 31 May 2024 17:41
by chetak
sanjayc wrote: ↑30 May 2024 08:46
^^ Strangely, they remain silent on othering of rest of humanity as "non-believers" and condemning them to hell every Sunday in church. Discrimination against non-believers is the major issue facing the world today
sanjayc ji,
It has been decided that the Hindus are the next jews
Who has decided this and why has no clarity currently, but it has the hallmarks of the deep state involvement to subdue the dharmics and the dharmic civilization.
A while ago, a similar beast reared its ugly head in the US and the Hindus barely managed to beat it back
The Hindu community have to fight this on their own because all the rest are on the opposing side and some of the slimier ones will stay "complicitly" neutral for geopolitical reasons of trade, alliance, whatever .... .
It's a woke, white, commie led nefarious agenda to somehow "ghettoize" and to "otherize" the Hindus (for now, it's the diaspora taking the brunt) leading to economic, social and cultural consequences to weaken, marginalize and restrict their socioeconomic growth and drastically weaken their geopolitical influence
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 31 May 2024 21:56
by sanman
When student protests on campus against the Israeli govt make Jewish students feel unsafe, then politicians unanimously condemn it, and even university presidents are forced to resign. But when university faculties are themselves singling out Indians for attack - not even a govt, but an ethnic group - then apparently it's all fine and normal. It seems like there are double standards, which apply different standards of justice for different ethnic groups. The more that Indians stay silent on this, the more this will happen, and the worse it will get.
^^ It is an Abrahamic racket against non-believers. They are still fighting the crusade against us. This cannot be solved till Whites are de-christianized and taken back to their pagan roots.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 04 Jun 2024 16:47
by sanman
India again being accused of "foreign interference" in Canada, this time by conspiring with Indo-Canadian politicians
But the real battle is between "Monotheism" vs. "Non-monotheism (or Poly-theism)". Monotheists may fight amongst themselves - I vs. C, C vs. J, J vs. I etc.), but from a religious point of view:
- I's, J's, C's can "tolerate" each other and "defend" each other as needed. Even Buddhism and Sikhism can find some "acceptance".
- Hindus will never be in that clique of "tolerance" or "acceptance". Because deep down they all despise the Hindu way of life.
sanman wrote: ↑31 May 2024 21:56
When student protests on campus against the Israeli govt make Jewish students feel unsafe, then politicians unanimously condemn it, and even university presidents are forced to resign. But when university faculties are themselves singling out Indians for attack - not even a govt, but an ethnic group - then apparently it's all fine and normal. It seems like there are double standards, which apply different standards of justice for different ethnic groups. The more that Indians stay silent on this, the more this will happen, and the worse it will get.
Just hint at some unspecified threat, so that you can keep everyone under your gun indefinitely, without resolving it
What they really want is unlimited surveillance powers against the population -- the ones they really want to keep at bay
FISA Courts, anyone?
Same playbook
krithivas wrote:the real battle is between "Monotheism" vs. "Non-monotheism (or Poly-theism)"Because deep down they all despise the Hindu way of life.
This characterization of Sanatana Dharma is wrong. The Vedic tenets believe in a Brahman which cannot be known, visualized, concretized into one or "Mono". It is Para Brahman. There is a temple in Indonesia called Prambanan wherein the mid-center intersection, with nothing in it was a point at which puja was done. This temple is perhaps 1200-1500 yrs old. Since it is unknown nor visualized, the Dharma provided certain concrete visualizable murthis or statue like Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma, which are the underlying forces of nature. In fact, Sanatana Dharma allowed any worshippable statue that underwent prana prathista and becomes a vigraha. Prana is one of the entities (force or energy) created from the chaya of Para Brahman, the other is Rayi. Prana is in all beings.
The other thing that is logically flawed is the statement that "God created the world". Such creation of modifying world requires God to be in the same time and space as the world. If time and space are involved, it has prior non-existence, Abrahmic God included.
The Vedic concepts is world is part of Brahman and it manifest/unmanifest as an "illusion" or chaya from the Para Brahman. The term chaya is shadow and one should not equate to normal light and shadow but as something that appears and disappears and is a continuous cycle. World is apparently real but can disappear (unmanifest) since it undergoes modification. Anything that modifies will have prior non-existence. The Para Brahman remains unmodified, it is the super consciousness that prevades this entire world.
Khalitani elements in Canada are certainly celebrating today.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 05 Jun 2024 09:23
by sanjaykumar
Panjab is a lost cause. Perhaps an influx of Sikhs back to panjab will provide an improvement to their political culture. Just as finishing the agenda of partition will provide Pakistan a broader perspective.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 05 Jun 2024 09:29
by Pratyush
Guys,
The BJP doubled it's vote share.
Don't be so despondent.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 06 Jun 2024 04:30
by sanman
Calls for details of foreign interference to be exposed:
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 06 Jun 2024 04:34
by sanman
CBC seeks out reactions to India's election results
Only reactions from Leftists & Khalistanis (including Jagmeet's brother Mo Dhaliwal)
India emerged as the second-most significant foreign interference threat to Canada’s democratic institutions and processes: Canadian Parliament panel report..
(Many news papers eg https://www.livemint.com/news/india-sec ... 84230.html
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 07 Jun 2024 04:36
by sanman
Amber G. wrote: ↑06 Jun 2024 22:44
India emerged as the second-most significant foreign interference threat to Canada’s democratic institutions and processes: Canadian Parliament panel report..
(Many news papers eg https://www.livemint.com/news/india-sec ... 84230.html
This is coming from a country that's aggressively importing and hosting Khalistanis seeking to break up India, and cultivating them as its main vote bank. This is also a country that hosted Khalistanis who blew up an Air India flight killing 329 passengers, and knew about the terror plot in advance but failed to stop the terrorists, and also failed to even punish them afterwards. But according to them we're the bad guys.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 07 Jun 2024 10:41
by Pratyush
Leave the Canadians be. If the leadership of a nation state is determined to reduce themselves to the status of white Pakistan.
Isolate it as best as you can. Keep moving forward.
Canada has to be turned into a problem for the USA. In terms of being a lauch pad for the CCP. That's the most effective solution from an Indian point of view.
Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)
Posted: 07 Jun 2024 11:55
by chetak
sanjaykumar wrote: ↑05 Jun 2024 09:23Panjab is a lost cause. Perhaps an influx of Sikhs back to panjab will provide an improvement to their political culture. Just as finishing the agenda of partition will provide Pakistan a broader perspective.
sanjaykumar ji,
You are right, panjab is a lost cause for the khalistanis.
worry about the congis and their commie, paapi collaborators who want to come to power and revive the issue
The khalistanis will never have the firepower to mount another effort.
What Kanwar Pal Singh Gill did has opened the eyes of the rest of India and also, this is a new India, intolerant of such seditious shenanigans and the Indian state is far more powerful now, than it was during KPS Gill's time
– Prime Minister Justin Trudeau