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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 15:18
by SSridhar
CalvinH wrote:
So pakis resold the CPEC assets to Saudis. Assets that China was salivating on expecting Pakis to default. Only Pakis can invite a partner to share the borrowed maal..

Who will be the more senior in Debt in case of Pakis default..

What are Saudi's getting? Security cant be it as Pakis have been doing that already.
The Pakis are blackmailing the Saudis with withdrawing their strategic security cover [read nuclear assets] to KSA, not the conventional security which is protecting the Al-Yamamah Palace.

Imran has hinted to that in his statement. “We have also assured the Saudi leadership that we will continue to provide security to their country and provide strategic support wherever needed,”

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 15:27
by SSridhar
Pakistan urges China to ease pressure on Muslims minority - AP
Pakistan is urging China to ease pressures on the country’s Muslim minority amid warnings by rights groups that the Uighurs in China face restrictions on religious activities and mass detentions in so-called “re-education camps”.

The appeal comes as Pakistan has had traditionally good ties with its large neighbor.

Pakistan’s minister for religious affairs, Noorul Haq Qadri, met Chinese envoy Yao Xing this week to discuss the situation of the Uighurs in China’s western Xingjian province.

Mr. Qadri says such pressures could foment reactionary extremist viewpoints and urged Beijing to take concrete steps on the issue.

Analysts say Pakistan’s move is significant amid growing pressure on China over human rights violations.

Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 16:16
by Peregrine
Pakistan remains undecided on cancelling $400m loan from ADB - Shahbaz Rana

ISLAMABAD: With only nine months left in closing of the project, Pakistan has not yet taken a final decision on the cancellation of a $400 million loan, which the Asian Development Bank (ADB) has extended for installation of smart electricity meters, due to divergent views of the concerned ministries. Installation of "smart meters will obviate the need of "meter readers" i.e. creating a loss of Jobs!

The Power Division – the executing agency for the advanced metering infrastructure (AMI) scheme, wanted cancellation of the loan. But the Economic Affairs Division (EAD) – the window to deal with the foreign lenders, has sought a review of the decision, said officials in the EAD. The EAD has now sought interventions of the new government to resolve the issue.

The EAD has revived the matter days before a visit of ADB Vice President Wencai Zhang to Pakistan. Zhang would visit Pakistan early next month and revival of the $400 million project is part of his agenda, said the officials.

The EAD wanted to hold a meeting with all stakeholders before the vice president’s visit. It hopes that with the change of administration the Power Division could also review its earlier stance, the officials informed.

The $400 million loan is part of the overall $5 billion package for replacing manual electricity meters with advanced ones in only those power distribution companies where it is economically and financially viable.

The ADB had approved the loan in November 2015 and as of end March this year there was no physical and financial progress on the project, according to the ADB’s documents. Pakistan has been paying commitment charges on the undisbursed amount.

The original closing date of the project is June next year. The $400 million loan is part of the multi finance facility for the power distribution sector. The EAD has expressed concerns that the decision to cancel the loan may also affect future lending to Pakistan’s dilapidated power distribution sector.

The stated objectives of the loan are reducing distribution losses and improving revenue collection, enhancing load control and load management, providing automated consumption data collection of all customers, and modernising the electricity metering and billing system.

ADB’s latest assessment report on the project showed that the Power Division has put on hold the tendering process initiated for installation of meters in Islamabad Electricity Supply Company (Iesco) and Lahore Electricity Supply Company (Lesco). The Iesco had initiated its invitation for bids in July 2017, with bid submission deadline of January 11, 2018 but the tender was cancelled by the Power Division on January 9, this year, it added.

The report stated that the recruitment process has also been put on hold by Power Division for both Iesco and Lesco’s Project Implementation Consultant’s (PIC) contracts.

The ADB is pushing the project on the premise that the pre-paid electricity meters will control the flow of electricity and ensure 100% collection of bills.

The main goal of the project was installation of two million smart meters and communication equipment in these two power distribution companies by 2019. About 800,000 meters were to be installed in the jurisdiction of Iesco and 1.2 million in Lesco.

But these meters are planned to be installed in jurisdictions where the theft is already negligible.

Pakistan was not ready to contract the loan due to its differences over the use of imported technology and the plan to privatise all power distribution companies under the $6.2-billion International Monetary Fund (IMF) programme.

Later on, the boards of both the power distribution companies also showed their concerns over high cost of the project and imported technology. Although Pakistan has signed the loan at relatively compatible rates, the federal government re-lends its loans to the public sector enterprises at around 12% interest rates.

The Planning Commission was also against signing of the $400 million loan. The country eventually signed the deal about three years ago after the Manila-based lender informally linked its programme lending with the smart meter project, the sources said.

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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 16:25
by Falijee
Mind Boggling Figures :mrgreen:

Need To Have Confirmation That They Were NOT Made In Sialkot :mrgreen:

Aneel Musarrat announces $180 billion housing plan in Pakistan for 5 million houses


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‏Verified account @mosharrafzaidi

Pakistan’s de facto Housing Minister Aneel Masarrat announces $180 billion housing plan.

Done right, this will fuel growth.

But austerity hawks, bureaucrats & unimaginative development bores will naysay. Criticism of choice of Masarrat is inevitable, but this plan must succeed.

PS: See the video and decide for yourself . Aneel is of course Imran's "friend". Is he also his "partying buddy" ( where Sharab , charas, cocaine flows in super abundance !) from UK days. :roll:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 16:29
by Peregrine
Pakistan is urging China to ease pressures on the country’s Muslim minority amid warnings by rights groups that the Uighurs in China face restrictions on religious activities and mass detentions in so-called “re-education camps”.

The appeal comes as Pakistan has had traditionally good ties with its large neighbor.
SSridhar Ji :

After coercing its Minorities and forcing them to convert to Islam especially Hindu & Sikh Girls Terroristan has the Temerty and Gall by wanting China to ease pressures on the country’s Muslim minority.

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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 16:32
by Peregrine
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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 16:53
by Manish_P
Falijee wrote:Mind Boggling Figures :mrgreen:

Need To Have Confirmation That They Were NOT Made In Sialkot :mrgreen:

Aneel Musarrat announces $180 billion housing plan in Pakistan for 5 million houses


Mosharraf ZaidiImage
‏Verified account @mosharrafzaidi

Pakistan’s de facto Housing Minister Aneel Masarrat announces $180 billion housing plan.
Did you see the longer version of the video..well just the next 1 minute of it (actually it is edited out around the 1:50 min mark).

The rat quickly says 'I myself will not invest any money nor construct a single house myself. I will only provide my expertise from the UK, as a consultant and facilitator' :lol:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 17:19
by Falijee
Pakis Reading "Too Much" Into This Diplomatic Nicety :mrgreen:

‘Terrific News,’ says US over diplomatic development between Pakistan, India
Sept 21, 2018
WASHINGTON – The United States has welcomed the decision made by Pakistan and India to hold a foreign ministerial-level meeting on the sidelines of UN General Assembly session in New York.Prime Minister Imran Khan had proposed a meeting between Shah Mahmood Qureshi and Sushma Swaraj, Pakistan and India foreign ministers respectively, in a letter to his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi. The letter was sent in response to Modi’s call for bilateral engagements.
“We saw that (reports of meetings between the leaders of both countries). I think that’s a terrific news for the Indians and Pakistanis to be able to sit down and have a conversation together,” she told reporters.
The Pakis are masters when it comes to spinning their version of a bad situation !

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 17:25
by Falijee
One Further Sign Of Pakistan Being Sucked Into The Chini Orbit !

CPEC summit in Africa: Pakistani delegation to arrive in Cairo
Sept 21, 2018
ISLAMABAD - China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and Belt and Road Initiative Summit is being held in Cairo, Egypt from tomorrow, Radio Pakistan reported.
A Pakistani delegation including the private sector businessmen will participate in the summit and will meet their counterparts to promote trade relations between Pakistan and Egypt.The delegation also have a special mission to promote CPEC program and invite investment from Egyptians in Special Economic Zones for the establishment of SMEs and other projects in the services sector.
The Paki "whore" cannot decide whether it is an ally of China (CPEC) or an al-lie of Massa ( Non - NATO Major Ally ) :mrgreen:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 17:36
by Falijee
Immy Decided To Skip India - Pakistan Cricket Match In Dubai !

Gulf News
Sept 21, 2018

Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan has no plans to watch Asia cup match in Dubai
Dubai: Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan has no plans to watch India-Pakistan Cricket match at the Dubai stadium, said a senior Pakistani diplomat denying reports in a certain section of the press.“Watching cricket match in Dubai is not on the agenda of Prime Minister’s visit to Saudi Arabia and the UAE,” he told Gulf News.
Am 400% sure, that he would have "turned up" for a photo op , if Pakistan won the match !
He said the Pakistani premier is going to Saudi Arabia on September 18 and he will visit Abu Dhabi on September 19 evening and then will go back to Pakistan after his official meetings.
There was a buzz at the Pakistan team's practice session at the ICC Academy grounds on Tuesday about the possibility of the new Prime Minister Imran Khan stopping by to attend the marquee clash against India tomorrow.While Khan is scheduled to stop over only in Abu Dhabi on his way back from a state visit to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan skipper Sarfraz Ahmed told the media: “It will quite motivating if he comes here.”

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 17:54
by anupmisra
Falijee wrote:Pakis Reading "Too Much" Into This Diplomatic Nicety :mrgreen:

The Pakis are masters when it comes to spinning their version of a bad situation !
Well, the (the pakis) can keep spinning or churning but as we predicted on BRF, the meeting is off. Lets see how this development is spun in pakhanistan. Pakis ought to know when to keep their bloody mouths shut. According to Hindustan Times:

India calls off Sushma Swaraj’s meeting with Pakistan foreign minister in New York
India has called off next week’s meeting between foreign minister Sushma Swaraj and her Pakistani counterpart Shah Mahmood Qureshi in New York just a day after the first high-level engagement in nearly three years was announced.
“There would be no meeting between the foreign ministers any longer,” foreign ministry spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said on Friday evening, adding, “The latest brutal killings of our security personnel by Pakistan-based entities and the recent release of a series of 20 postage stamps by Pakistan glorifying a terrorist and terrorism confirm that Pakistan will not mend its ways.”
The cancellation comes hours after terrorists in Kashmir kidnapped and killed three unarmed policemen in south Kashmir.
the true face of the new Prime Minister of Pakistan Imran Khan has been revealed to the world in his first few months in office
So folks, as expected, the meeting is off. Next move - refuse to play cricket with the pakhandis in Doobai (or anywhere else).

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... mqvON.html

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 18:00
by anupmisra
Indian Express is now confirming it as well.

India calls off talks with Pakistan, says PM Imran Khan’s true face exposed
India called off talks with Pakistan, less than 24 hours after it was confirmed that Foreign Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj will be meeting her counterpart on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York. Citing the brutal killing of a BSF jawan on Thursday and the recent release of postal stamps glorifying slain Kashmir militant commander Burhan Wani, MEA spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said the true face of Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan has been exposed.
I would have hoped that the Indians had not used the issue of postage stamps as an excuse. That was a while ago. Killing of the BSF trooper and the three policemen were good enough reasons.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... d-5368813/

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 18:05
by anupmisra
Faisal Raza Abidi booked for ‘defaming SC, judges’
Former senator Faisal Raza Abidi was booked by the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) and the capital police for “defaming the Supreme Court and judges”.
The FIA and police will conduct separate investigations, police officials said, and that the former senator and others were booked under several charges, including the Anti-Terrorism Act.
It says that during the course of his appearance on the show, the accused, with criminal intent and ulterior motives and without any lawful justification used sarcastic, derogatory, disrespectful and defamatory language against the chief justice etc. which it says is tantamount to creating a sense of fear, panic and insecurity among the government, general public and society.
:rotfl: Isn't this the hombre who claimed on a TV channel that his mountain of "research on G'wdar" predicted that dollars would soon flow in the gutters of pakhanistan? Booked under the "terrorism act", eh?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1434141/faisa ... -sc-judges

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 18:25
by Bart S
Bart S wrote:
Falijee wrote:India Accedes To Paki Request For Talks :cry:

FM Shah Mehmood to meet Indian counterpart Sushma Swaraj on sidelines of UNGA
Sept 20, 2018



:cry: :evil:


Must watch. Hope whoever took the decision to re-start talks with Pakistan is feeling proud.






This is the mood on the streets, but can't expect to wake up the Lutyens sellouts when they are merely pretending to sleep. :evil:
Quoting my post from yesterday. It was a blunder (perhaps bad timing/slow reaction) initially, but very well done to Modiji and Sushmaji for cancelling the talks. It was the least we could do in order to not dishonour the martyrs both from the BSF and J&K Police who have been murdered in cold blood by Paki terrorists.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 18:25
by Kashi
Nothing would have come out of the meeting anyway and glad that GoI decided to call of the charade before it became even more ridiculous.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 18:33
by Philip
Finally! The MEA has REJECTED Capt.Khan's offer of talks with India.Capt.Khan must realise that he cannot talk peace and allow the Paki army to p*ss on Indian soil repeatedly. Duplicity does not pay whatsoever.

But the MEA can take far more significant action against both Pak and China.China protests loudly if a single Chinaman is arrested worldwide.Our MEA has spinelrssly allowed China to issue stapled visas fof our citizens from J & K and Ar.Pradesh. More specifically against Pak, some expulsions of its military attaches should take place in retalitlation of the butchering of our security personnel. The IA can also retaliate at a place and time of its choosing, it should be given a free hand.

Visits by Paki citizens restricted as well as Indians visiting Pak.Further atrocities and terror attacks should see India stop overflights across our territory. Closing down of Paki consulates, etc, downgrading of relations as a drastic step.Sanctions against foreign biz houses doing biz with Pak.One can go on and on, but mere cancelling of talks does NOT hurt Pak! We must remember this fact.Pak must feel hurt, pain and even loss of blood if ot continues to bleed India.A total cessation of all sporting ties is low hanging fruit, but our "crookit" cronies who make billions out of the (ig)noble game through match- fixing, etc. will howl in protest.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 18:35
by abhijitm
MEA accusing other country's PM is unprecedented, at leat not that I remember.

Each time there is little bit of cooperation from indian side there happens attacks. Uncanny and beyond coincidence.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 18:47
by anupmisra
These are the 20 paki postage stamps that formed the basis of India's action. Hey, I am sure India and Bangladesh can jointly issue a series of postage stamps as well. Not sure what "Half Widows" imply?

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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 18:54
by anupmisra
Kashi wrote:Nothing would have come out of the meeting anyway and glad that GoI decided to call of the charade before it became even more ridiculous.
That meeting was only for optics. Besides the usual "helloji", "aap kaisen hain ji", "mubarak ho ji" and "agli baar, phir milenge ji", nothing much of an outcome was expected. Even the MEA spokesman said it.

I feel for Qureshi. His return flight by PainIntheAss in a business class seat would now be meaningless and wasted. But I also predict that Qureshi will use this cancellation as an excuse to further berate, rant and rave about Cashmere at the (n)UNGA conference.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 19:11
by Kashi
The thing is as HakeemJi had pointed out that Pakistanis believe that just because they exist, it is victory in itself and more than anything they crave for a proper recognition and acknowledgement of their existence, especially from India.

They very well know, as do we, that talks are meaningless. But it fuels their ego and delusions that somehow they are "engaging" with India on "equal terms." This allows them to feel relevant. Also it reinforces their belief that "We are like this only and India will talk to us regardless."

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 20:06
by arun
While already overtaken by history, transcript of the media briefing announcing “meeting” between our EAM and the foreign Minister of the Mohammadden Terroris Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan on the sidelines of UNGA:
Transcript of Weekly Media Briefing by Official Spokesperson (September 20, 2018)
September 21, 2018

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Good afternoon and welcome to this weekly briefing. I do not have any announcements so we can straightaway move to Q&A session.

Question: We have seen that letter written by the Pakistani Prime Minister to the Indian Prime Minister in which he has talked about how the External Affairs Minister should meet with the Pakistani Foreign Minister. Has India responded and will there be a meeting on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly?

Question: Policy lagataar ye rahi hai ki ‘talk and terror cannot go together.’ Is beech ye dekha ja raha hai ji PM Modi ne khat likha tha uspar jawaabi taur par Pakistan ke Pradhanmantri ne bhi khat likha hai aur Videsh Mantralay ki taraf se ye aasha jaahir kii gaii hai ki tamaam muddon ko baatcheet se suljhaya jaa sakta hai. Is beech ka ghatnakram ye hai ki jis tarah se hamare sainikon ka brutal killing hua khaastaur par jo amaanveey vyavhaar hua, to kya aapko lagta hai ki ye ek mazaak hai Pakistan ki taraf se Bharat ko aur ek tarah se hamein chidhaane ki koshish kii jaa rahi hai?

(It has been the policy that talks and terror cannot go together. In between it was seen the PM Modi has written a letter and in reply Pakistan PM also wrote a letter in which it was expressed that Foreign ministries can have a meeting and explore solutions based on discussions. In the middle of all this there has been brutal killing and inhuman behavior with our soldiers, don’t you think it is a kind of joke from Pakistan side and they are deliberately trying to tease us?)

Question: Mera sawaal ye hai ki Bharat ki jo policy rahi hai ki aatank aur vaarta ek saath nahi chal sakte, to kya is policy mein ab badlaav hua hai kyonki jis tarah se cricket match bhi abhi Pakistan ki team ke saath khela gaya, usko lekar bhi sawaal uthate hain ki jab aap game khel sakte hain to fir baatcheet kyon nahi kar sakte, to kya hamaari is policy mein badalaav hua hai ya hone jaa raha hai?

(India has had this policy that terror and talks cannot go together, so has there been any change in that policy because it is seen that recently we had a cricket match, so the question is when we can play a game so why can’t we have talks, so has there been any change in our policy or is there going to be a change in our policy in the near future?)

Question: We have heard two things in last four years under this government. One, the talks and terror cannot go together and in the last annual PC of EAM she mentioned that talk and terror can happen. So which are these lines which Indian government is going to take now?

Question: Government has earlier said when Imran Khan took oath that we will look at the policy of new government and then take a call on the comprehensive bilateral dialogue, if that can be taken forward. And in the letter Imran Khan has said that he is ready to talk terror but he also mentions Jammu & Kashmir. So will there be any kind of possibility of a dialogue? And there is a report by United States, annual report on terrorism, that also highlights the attacks in India from Pakistan in Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir, how do you react to that?

Question: Isi chitthi mein SAARC Summit Pakistan mein karaye jaane ki baat bhi Imran Khan ne ki hai aur ye bhi kaha hai ki Pradhanmantri Modi ko wahaan aane ka mauka milega?

(In this letter Pakistan PM Imran Khan has also talked about organizing SAARC Summit in Pakistan and he has also said that PM Modi will get a chance to visit Pakistan?)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Look there are several related issues, some of them may not be directly connected .

You are all aware that our Prime Minister had written to the Pakistani Prime Minister, Mr. Imran Khan to congratulate him on his assumption of the post of the Prime Minister. The letter which we have received is in response to that letter which was handed over to us by the High Commissioner of Pakistan to India on 17th September. At the same time, on the same day another letter was handed over from the Pakistani Foreign Minister to our External Affairs Minister basically reiterating Prime Minister of Pakistan’s proposal for a meeting between the External Affairs Minister and the Pakistani Foreign Minister on the sidelines of the upcoming United Nations General Assembly session.

I can confirm that on the request of the Pakistani side a meeting between External Affairs Minister and Pakistani Foreign Minister will take place on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly at a mutually convenient date and time.

Now I see that there are several connected questions which came up. First, I think somebody asked about the SAARC Summit, but first I must distinguish between a meeting and a dialogue. This should be confused with resumption of any dialogue, this is a meeting which we have agreed to, based on the request which we have got from the Pakistani side. This does not indicate any change in the policy as far as our stand on terrorism and cross-border terrorism is concerned.

On the SAARC itself our position has been very clear and consistent and time and again we have said that the atmosphere in the region is not conducive for this summit and it is not only India which has felt in this manner. There are a number of other countries who have accordingly felt that under the shadow of terrorism and cross-border terrorism it is difficult to hold the SAARC Summit which is to be hosted by Pakistan.

I think at this stage we have just agreed to the meeting. Permanent missions of both India and Pakistan, they will get in touch with each other to work out how and when the meeting will take place and I think till then about what we will discuss in the meeting, I think we should just wait till the meeting actually takes place.

Aap sabko pata hai ki hamare Pradhanmantri ne Pakistan ke Pradhanmantri ko chitthi likh kar badhaai di thii jab Shri Imran Khan ji Pakistan ke Pradhanmantri bane they. Abhi ye jo chitthi hamare paas aai hai, jo Pakistan ke High Commissioner ne External Affairs Minister ko deliver kiya, ye us chitthi ke response mein aai hai, aap logon ne chitthi dekhi hii hai aur usi samay ek chitthi jo Pakistan ke Foreign Minister ne likhi thi wo hamare EAM ke liye tha, usmein Pakistan ke Prime Minister ki chitthi ka hawala dete hue ye kaha gaya tha ki ye jo dono Videsh Mantriyon ki mulakaat ka jo proposal hai usko unhone reiterate kiyaa tha ki UNGA ki sidelines mein hum us meeting ko kar sakte hain.

Is samay main ye confirm kar sakta hoon ki Pakistan ki request ke baad humne ye tay kiyaa hai ki hamari Videsh Mantri aur Pakistan ke Videsh Mantri ke beech, New York mein, UNGA ki sidelines mein ye meeting hogi. Jo samay aur tareekh hai wo hum dono ke permanent mission hain, un dono ke beech consultation se wo tay kiya jaayega.

Question: Jab baatcheet ki baat tay ho gai hai to agenda bhi tay hua hoga, to kya agenda hai meeting ka?

(When meeting has been fixed then the agenda must have also been decided, so what is the agenda of the meeting?)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Jaisa maine bataya ki abhi humne sirf ye agree kiya hai ki meeting hogi.

We have just agreed to this meeting and we have not yet decided on what all things or what all topics would be discussed as part of this.

Question: Abhi tak hamara stand thaa aur humne baatcheet nahi kii hai jisko hum adhere kar rahe they, to kya isko kaise interpret karein, us letter ke baad, naai Sarkar ke baad kyonki jaise dekhein to ek sainik ki Sambha sector mein mutilate kii hui body saamane aai hai uske baad desh mein kahin na kahin ek narazagi hai to kya Pakistan se baatcheet karne ki dishaa mein Bharat aagey badh raha hai?

(Till now we had a stand and we did not had any dialogue and which we were adhering to. Now how do we interpret it after that letter by the new government, because if we look at it we have just discovered mutilated body of a soldier in Sambha sector because of which there is a sense of anger in the whole country, so is India inching towards having a dialogue with Pakistan?)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Dekhiye jaise ki maine kaha ki ismein jyada padhane ki jaroorat nahi hai.

There is nothing much to read into this meeting at this stage. This meeting is taking place on the request of the Pakistani side as I have already mentioned that we have not finalized the agenda of this meeting. We have just responded to the request that a meeting should take place. This request was reiterated by the Pakistani Foreign Minister, it was mentioned in the letter which was written by Prime Minister of Pakistan Imran Khan to our Prime Minister.

Question: During SAARC Foreign Affairs Ministers meeting, will India reiterate its stand on the holding of the SAARC Summit because several of the members of the SAARC will request India to agree for a SAARC meeting very soon?

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: We have confirmed that EAM will participate in the SAARC Foreign Ministers meeting which is being scheduled in New York on the sidelines of UNGA. What exactly will be our position, I think it will be difficult for me to share at this stage but as I already told you our existing policy on the resumption of the SAARC process is very consistent, I don’t think we have changed in the last few years since this process has been suspended.

Question: To is mulakaat ko hum kis tarah se dekhein, baatcheet shuru karne ki possibilities ke liye baatcheet?

(So how should we look at this meeting, a meeting to explore the possibilities of a dialogue?)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Is mulakaat ko hum sirf mulakaat ke tareeke se dekhenge. Ye sirf ek meeting hai, ye resumption of talks ya resumption of dialogue nahi hai. Ye unki taraf se meeting ke liye request aai thi aur humne us meeting ke liye haami bhari hai.

(We must look at this meeting as it is i.e. a meeting only. This is just a meeting, these are not resumption of talks or resumption of dialogue. There was a request for meeting from their side and to which we have agreed.)

Question: On the issue of the mutilated body of the soldier that has been found.

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: We are ascertaining facts on this matter. On this barbaric incident which not only defies logic, not only defies civilized behavior but also is against all international norms. I understand that BSF has strongly taken up the matter with their counterpart on the Pakistani side. Yes, this is a very serious issue and definitely we will take it up with the Pakistani side at the appropriate level. ……………………………….

Question: Just a follow up on last question, is there clarity that government sources earlier suggested that this was perhaps an opinion of the court on whether a foreign national could be extradited to a third country and not an order, but now reports suggests that there is a deadline in case if Christian Mitchel wants to appeal against state, there is a 2nd October deadline, so we assume that an appeal can only be on a court order not on opinion, so is there a clarity whether it is an opinion or a court order?

And just a second question on Pakistan, even as you prepare for talks, you have senior ministers including the Defence Minister talking about beheading Pakistani soldiers, General VK Singh saying that Imran Khan is a puppet of the Pakistani army, how do these statement really go forward in sort of reconcile with the government’s aim of holding a meeting which is not a dialogue as you clarified?

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: On your first question, any extradition exercise is something which is conducted between the two governments. You are referring to a source, I can tell you that we can't comment on a source based information, but at this stage, as I said, it is not possible for me to comment because we have not been intimated about the details of the case.

If the UAE government tells us that look this is what has been decided by the court and now this is how we intend to proceed then we come into the picture. Then we intimate the agencies to take the process forward but at this point of time I have nothing more, because we don’t have any intimation in official capacity from the UAE government.

On the other aspect on how to reconcile and you also referred to a statement made by the Defence Minister, you see I would not react to a statement made by a minister. As I explained a decision has been taken by the government that the External Affairs Minister will be meeting her Pakistani counterpart on the sidelines of the UNGA.

Question: India continues to maintain that talks and terror cannot go together and in the past three years all the meetings and request for meetings, we have not really seen apart from the fact that there are functional level meetings that have taken place between India and Pakistan. What really changed now for India to go ahead with the meeting even if it is not a dialogue?

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: I will not get drawn into this again. I have time and again mentioned my position. Let us wait for the talks. I think we have said that talks and terror cannot go together but as somebody pointed out that, talks on terror can go on. So I think let us wait for the meeting between our External Affairs Minister and the Pakistani Foreign Minister to happen.
From our MEA: Clicky

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 20:43
by SSridhar
Philip wrote: . . .Capt.Khan must realise that he cannot talk peace and allow the Paki army to p*ss on Indian soil repeatedly. . . .
If there is one thing we can be completely certain about Pakistan, like the Sun rising in the East, it is Pakistan's duplicitous behaviour. There is no need to talk to Pakistan hoping for a change in its behaviour just because a new guy has taken over. We repeatedly fall for this cr@p.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 21:00
by anupmisra
Falijee wrote:Mind Boggling Figures

Pakistan’s de facto Housing Minister Aneel Masarrat announces $180 billion housing plan..Criticism of choice of Masarrat is inevitable, but this plan must succeed.

PS: See the video and decide for yourself . Aneel is of course Imran's "friend".
Lets review the above based on facts.

1. $180 Billion (with a "B") is 2/3rd toiletistan's real GDP. Good luck getting financing for that amount over the next five years.

2. Masarrat is a mid-sized developer of modest sized real estate projects in UKistan (google him). This immy-given opportunity could be his proverbial swan song.

3. Nobody does anything for free (as we say here, there is no free lunch). Massarat may not be the developer of record of the housing units but he will certainly demand a "consulting and facilitating" fee. After all, if he is that big a developer of properties in yUK, he will not have time to devote to development in another screwed up country but will know "dubious" sources of financing.

4. While Massarat has claimed that he will not directly invest in the development of millions of housing units, he did state that he will "encourage" the growth of "thousands of property developers". Guess who is the lucky guy who gets to select and provide seed funding to those "non existent housing developers"? Chacha Massarat!

Do you really want to know how the left hand (eww) washes the right hand (more ewww) in pakhanistan? Watch this video on MassaRat and SuperRat I'm the Dim (circa April 2018).



And, as they say, here's rest of the story.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 21:12
by anupmisra
More on Massarat. he has known the Dimwit since 2004.


Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 21:23
by Falijee
And Here Is "Suave" Qureshi's Spin On The Cancellation Of The Talks !

FM Shah Mehmood cites upcoming elections in India as reason behind ‘surprise’ cancellation of ministers’ moot
Sept 21, 2018
ISLAMABAD – Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has expressed surprise at the cancellation of a planned meeting with Indian counterpart, citing the upcoming elections in India as a possible reason.In a brief response over the withdrawal of India from foreign ministers moot on the sidelines of United Nations General Assembly, the minister expressed that Pakistan desires peace in the region, however, India had different priorities altogether.
He should know why the talks were cancelled !
Shah Mehmood expressed that New Delhi was reluctant in the initiation of dialogue adding that the conflicting issues could only be resolved through dialogue.‘India did not send a positive message through the development and the cancellation would affect other Saarc countries as well,’ said the lawmaker.
Another desperate "plea"- in diplomatese- for talks IMO :mrgreen:
India has called off talks with Pakistan which were scheduled to be held in next week on the sidelines of United Nations General Assembly session.The Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said on Friday that there will be no meeting between the two foreign ministers in New York.“In view of the changed situation, there will be no meeting between the foreign ministers of India and Pakistan in New York,” said a press release issued by the ministry.
Now, at least the unwashed Abduls will blame India for rejecting Pakistan's offer of Peace :mrgreen:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 21:46
by Falijee
Previous Poster Boy - "Justice" Shaukat Siddiqui Of Isloo High Court, Now Being Demonized By "Deep State" :mrgreen:

Speech against ISI: SJC summons IHC’s Justice Siddiqui on Oct 1
Sept 21, 2018
ISLAMABAD – The Suprme Judicial Council has summoned Islamabad High Court’s Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui on October 1 in a reference pertaining Ito his aggressive speech against the country’s top spy agency. A five-member panel of SJC, headed by Chief Justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar, has directed the firebrand high court judge to appear in person to face the reference against him.On July 31, the SJC has issued a show cause notice to Justice Siddiqui for one of his speeches with a special reference to the country’s top spy agency, made on June 21.The notice was issued regarding the address of the honorable judge to the Rawalpindi Bar Association in which Siddiqui had decried the involvement of spy officers in judicial affairs.
This should be an "eye opener" to Immy and Saquib , that in theory, this could technically happen to them as well . If they cross the so -called red lines of the Deep State !
In his bombshell address to his junior fellows, Justice Siddiqui alleged that officers of Pakistan’s premier spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), were directly involved in manipulating the judicial affairs in the country. “I don’t know what will happen tomorrow but I swear on my mother ( invoking his late mother, will not get him off the hook !) and this Bar that ISI officials instruct the judges to constitute the bench of their own choice,” the judge claimed.
Justice Siddiqui also made headlines last year when he criticised the armed forces for their role as the “mediator” in the agreement between the government and the protesters of a religious group. A petition against him on his remarks was also filed with the SJC by Jamshed Dasti. The Islamabad High Court Judge is already facing a probe by the Supreme Judicial Council regarding the expenses incurred on the renovation of official residence.
It all started when Siddiqui dared to "challenge" Saquib on some minor issue . Then the "investigation" ball started rolling, then he was accused of corruption ! And he has now retaliated by "letting out some state secrets" re The Premiere Institution ( The "best" intelligence agency in the whole wide world :mrgreen: )

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 21:56
by Falijee
Heavy Work Load Now Taking Its Toll On Super Active Saquib :mrgreen:

CJP Nisar falls ill in Chitral
Sept 21, 2018
CHITRAL – Chief Justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar, who is in Chitral on a private tour with his family, is suffering from fever due to infection in his chest.
Due to the illness, the top judge reached the hilly area on Wednesday night to spend some quality time with his family. During the three-day tour, the chief justice was scheduled to visit Gollan Valley, Kalash valley and Shandur Lake.
Hope he had no plans to show up unannounced at the local Tehsil office to do the "on the spot" inspection for which he is so "famous" all over Pakiland :mrgreen:
However, the physician has advised him not to travel to the distant places as he could not carry on his visit due to the fever.
If "Mohamed" cannot go to the mountain, let the mountain come to "Mohamed " then . Summon the local Political Agent , the local policeman, the local politico , so the CJP can take "stock" of the situation in the North ! Important for CPEC !
The physician told an English daily that the chief justice was recovering but he was not in a position to go anywhere by road, adding that he has been asked to go back to Islamabad by a plane which will be available on Friday today.
With or without his "beloved" family :roll:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 22:01
by chetak
Falijee wrote:And Here Is "Suave" Qureshi's Spin On The Cancellation Of The Talks !

FM Shah Mehmood cites upcoming elections in India as reason behind ‘surprise’ cancellation of ministers’ moot
Sept 21, 2018
ISLAMABAD – Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has expressed surprise at the cancellation of a planned meeting with Indian counterpart, citing the upcoming elections in India as a possible reason.In a brief response over the withdrawal of India from foreign ministers moot on the sidelines of United Nations General Assembly, the minister expressed that Pakistan desires peace in the region, however, India had different priorities altogether.
He should know why the talks were cancelled !
Shah Mehmood expressed that New Delhi was reluctant in the initiation of dialogue adding that the conflicting issues could only be resolved through dialogue.‘India did not send a positive message through the development and the cancellation would affect other Saarc countries as well,’ said the lawmaker.
Another desperate "plea"- in diplomatese- for talks IMO :mrgreen:
India has called off talks with Pakistan which were scheduled to be held in next week on the sidelines of United Nations General Assembly session.The Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said on Friday that there will be no meeting between the two foreign ministers in New York.“In view of the changed situation, there will be no meeting between the foreign ministers of India and Pakistan in New York,” said a press release issued by the ministry.
Now, at least the unwashed Abduls will blame India for rejecting Pakistan's offer of Peace :mrgreen:
good that the meeting was called off.

The reasons stated by our MEA spokesperson was the release of paki postage stamps with terrorist characters like burran wani on them and the murder and mutilation of our BSF jawan.

The stamps were released in july and the murder and mutilation of our BSF jawan took place a day before we agreed to the meeting, so why the agreement in the first place??

is the MEA sleeping or what??

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 22:03
by chetak
Falijee wrote:Heavy Work Load Now Taking Its Toll On Super Active Saquib :mrgreen:

CJP Nisar falls ill in Chitral
Sept 21, 2018
CHITRAL – Chief Justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar, who is in Chitral on a private tour with his family, is suffering from fever due to infection in his chest.
Due to the illness, the top judge reached the hilly area on Wednesday night to spend some quality time with his family. During the three-day tour, the chief justice was scheduled to visit Gollan Valley, Kalash valley and Shandur Lake.
Hope he had no plans to show up unannounced at the local Tehsil office to do the "on the spot" inspection for which he is so "famous" all over Pakiland :mrgreen:
However, the physician has advised him not to travel to the distant places as he could not carry on his visit due to the fever.
If "Mohamed" cannot go to the mountain, let the mountain come to "Mohamed " then . Summon the local Political Agent , the local policeman, the local politico , so the CJP can take "stock" of the situation in the North ! Important for CPEC !
The physician told an English daily that the chief justice was recovering but he was not in a position to go anywhere by road, adding that he has been asked to go back to Islamabad by a plane which will be available on Friday today.
With or without his "beloved" family :roll:
With or without some boxes of mangoes?? :mrgreen:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 22:11
by Falijee
According To THIS Report , Qureshi Drops Off His Diplomatic Mask ! Says That He Will NOT Seek Any Dialogues With India In The Future :mrgreen:

Pakistan will not seek dialogues with India in future: Sources
Sept 21, 2018
ISLAMABAD - Pakistan Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has said that he was surprised and disappointed over the latest development of cancellation of talks from India.
“We had given a positive signal and India too had hinted about negotiations,” he said. “India has once again shown that it cares more about its own politics than regional peace and stability,” he added.
He must have "confused" hello , how are you interaction- in the corridors of the UN - with a full scale meeting from morning till evening :mrgreen:
Asked if Pakistan will approach India again for negotiations, he said: “No, we wanted negotiations in a dignified way.”
One can see that the "diplomatic mask" is no more :mrgreen:
Earlier in 2015, high-level negotiations between the neighbouring countries were cancelled hours before they were about to start.
Due to "Deep State" doing a terrorist op :roll:
Pakistan felt India’s preconditions for limiting talks as repugnant. It said such talks would be futile to resolve broad range of issues.Things are not as usual. There is a New (tough) Sheriff in town in India these days :mrgreen:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 22:32
by yensoy
Good move with the meeting being called off. Unpredictability is everything, no point repeating the same play. The finer points like timing of the brutal killing of BSF soldier is immaterial (as in Raveesh Kumar's press conference above, they were ascertaining the facts at that time and the meeting had already been agreed to); the additional policemen's deaths show how Paki terrorists are going after Kashmiris as well, and the mention of stamps is to demonstrate how terror is blessed by the Paki state.

I am hoping for another surgical strike at the exact same time as the Paki joker's nUNGA address.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 22:33
by anupmisra
Falijee wrote:Qureshi Drops Off His Diplomatic Mask ! Says That He Will NOT Seek Any Dialogues With India In The Future
Is that a promise or a threat?

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 22:40
by Falijee
FM Qureshi Should Know That This Is The Real Reason Why "Talks" At UN Were Cancelled !

As Imran Khan talks peace, Pakistan releases 20 postal stamps to honour terrorists killed in Kashmir
Financial Express
Sept 21, 2018
Pakistan’s postal department has released as many as 20 postal stamps in honour of terrorists who were gunned down by Indian security forces in Kashmir. The tickets were issued by the Pakistan Post headquarters in Karachi on July 24 to express Islamabad’s solidarity with the people of Kashmir who are “fighting for their rights” against the Indian security forces.
According to a Times Of India report, the tickets that have been issued in honour of terrorists including Hizbul terrorist Burhan Wani, Farooq Ahmed Dart who was made a human shield by Army and a mass grave found in Kashmir among others. Many of the tickets carry very disturbing images.
Are the Pakis "burying" their head in the sand and assuming that this "propaganda campaign" will not have been noticed by GOI !
It said that all are the victims of atrocities of Indian security forces. It went on to describe Wani as a ‘Freedom Icon’ who sacrificed his life while fighting against the Indian security forces. At the bottom of all the postal tickets, it reads ‘Atrocities in India Occupied Kashmir’.
Interesting to know, if this "initiative" of the Paki Govt/ Deep State was personally approved by Ganja Sharif himself . Or was the Kaptaan aware of its existence, when he signed the recent "Peace letter" to Modiji . Interestingly, the stamps were "released" on July 24, 2018 and the Paki General Elections were held one day after, ie on July 25, 2018 . Interesting timing indeed !
Reacting to the release of postal stamps, Kavinder Gupta, former Deputy CM of Jammu and Kashmir, said that this proves Pakistan’s role in disturbing peace in Kashmir. “Pakistan is adopting double standards. On one hand, they are advocating for talks and on the other, they are releasing stamps in honour of terrorists. Pakistan can never be trusted. Pakistan has already been isolated at international platforms and a few prominent countries have already severed their ties with Pakistan,” he said.
Senior BJP leader and Union minister Gajendra Singh Shekhawat strongly condemned the release of postal stamps in honour of Burhan Wani. He said that the matter will be raised at the right platform. “Our policy is very clear on Pakistan until they decide to crack down on terrorism, there won’t be any change in our policy. At different levels, the government has clearly stated the same,” he said.
J&K BJP chief Ravinder Rain said that India has always favoured a friendly relationship with its neighbours, be it China, Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka or anyone else.
This is an act of provocation , nothing else !
“But when it comes to Pakistan, it believes in the policy of creating a rift. You can’t trust them… Army, government, ISI. In Pakistan, an elected government is powerless, no one listens to them. Who is listening to Imran Khan? If Imran Khan says Pakistan will not allow terror camps to operate on its soil, Army will not violate ceasefire, he will immediately be arrested by the Army and put behind the bars.”
Look, what happened to "Justice" Shaukat Siddiqui . He criticized ISI, now he is "out of favour" . At one time, he was the poster boy of The Premiere Institution :mrgreen:
hough the postal stamps were released in July, it was reported in the media in the recent past. It comes close on the heels of a letter from Pakistan Premier Imran Khan to his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi urging him to initiate dialogue.The Composite Dialogue Process between India and Pakistan began in 1997, but was suspended in 2008 after the deadly Mumbai terror attacks of 26/11. Seven years later, in December 2015, India and Pakistan agree to resume the talks and it was called a 10-Point Comprehensive Bilateral Dialogue. But the talks were again suspended in January 2016 after the terror attack on the frontier IAF station in Pathankot.
India on its part has been saying that terrorism and talks can’t go together. Meanwhile, the Foreign Ministers of both the sides are slated to meet on the sidelines of the UNGA meeting in New York later this week. However, the MEA has said that the meet should not be seen through the prism of initiation of talks between India and Pakistan.
The meeting has since been cancelled !

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 22:43
by Peregrine
Pakistan will not seek dialogues with India in future: Sources
Sept 21, 2018
Falijee Ji :
Did Qureshi make this statement by - as the say in Aamchi Mubai - with Double God Promise?

Methinks that Qureshi being a 400% Terroristani will Practice TAQIYYA AND KITMAN!

https://youtu.be/CQMyzfkXw0A



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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 22:53
by chetak
anupmisra wrote:
Kashi wrote:Nothing would have come out of the meeting anyway and glad that GoI decided to call of the charade before it became even more ridiculous.
That meeting was only for optics. Besides the usual "helloji", "aap kaisen hain ji", "mubarak ho ji" and "agli baar, phir milenge ji", nothing much of an outcome was expected. Even the MEA spokesman said it.

I feel for Qureshi. His return flight by PainIntheAss in a business class seat would now be meaningless and wasted. But I also predict that Qureshi will use this cancellation as an excuse to further berate, rant and rave about Cashmere at the (n)UNGA conference.
queereshi is a very abrasive guy and a known India baiter.

good riddance to him.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 22:55
by Falijee
Paki Goberment Reacts To India's Cancellation Of Talks !

India lists two reasons for calling off Foreign Minister meeting with Pakisan: Report
Sept 21, 2018
NEW DELHI - Narendra Modi government has listed two reasons for calling off dialogues with Pakistan.
India on Friday said that the ‘deeply disturbing’ events in last 24 hours have exposed the ‘true face’ of the new government across the border.
Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said the above words while officially confirming the news that India called off New York meeting which was scheduled next week.
‘Since yesterday’s announcement of a meeting between the Foreign Ministers of India and Pakistan in New York later this month, two deeply disturbing developments have taken place.The latest brutal killings of our security personnel by Pakistan-based entities and the recent release of a series of twenty postage stamps by Pakistan glorifying terrorist Burhan Wani confirm that Pakistan will not mend its ways,’ Kumar said while addressing media in New Delhi on Friday.
‘The decision to agree to Pakistan’s proposal for a meeting between the Foreign Ministers of the two countries in New York later this month was in response to the spirit reflected in the letters from the new Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Pakistan. The letter from the Prime Minister of Pakistan had spoken of, inter alia bringing a positive change and mutual desire for peace as also readiness to discuss terrorism,’ Kumar added.
‘Now, it is obvious that behind Pakistan’s proposal for talks to make a fresh beginning, the evil agenda of Pakistan stands exposed and the true face of the new Prime Minister of Pakistan Imran Khan has been revealed to the world in his first few months in office. Any conversation with Pakistan in such an environment would be meaningless,’ Kumar said in a stinging attack on the new government in Pakistan.
‘In view of the changed situation, there will be no meeting between the Foreign Ministers of India and Pakistan in New York,’ Kumar further said.
Pakistan cannot be trusted. Pure and simple ! A country that "invites" Saudi Arabia to join CPEC, on its own ( for cash starved reasons !) without seeking the "permission" of the senior partner ( The Chinis ), what can you say about that ! Am pretty sure the Chinis were taken by surprise as well, when Pajwa floated the suggestion to them !!!

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 23:04
by anupmisra
More on that paki postage stamps matter. All the stamps are priced at 8 pkr. The cost of postage for domestic mail (letter - 10 grams) is 8 pkr. Clearly the end use of majority of those stamps was for domestic purposes. But, could be used for international mail.

If a paki mails a letter with those stamps on it to an Indian address, Indian postal service should refuse to accept it and return it with "Addressee unknown, try P.O.K" message.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 23:28
by Falijee
Truck loaded with Alcohol, Liquor seized in Lahore: Sources Today Is Fri-Din - "Holiest" Day Of The Week
Sept 21, 2018
LAHORE - Lahore Police seized a truck loaded with liquor and arrested truck driver in Shahdara, Lahore.
As per media reports, Truck was having 28 thousand litres alcohol and against this quantity 0.212 million bottles of alcohol can be filled.According to the police , at Shahdara Sagyan Pul check post they received secret information that a truck loaded with liquor was coming to Lahore.
Makes sense IMO. Today, is "Muslim Sabbath". But Fridays is also sabbath eve . Optimum party time . "Secret Sharab soirees", with "special western movies" are planned all the town, away from the peering eyes of the neighbourhood Mullah . kababs and tikkyas are best enjoyed with a little pani ( Grey Goose vodka in it ) or coca cola ( with Bacardi rum in it ). The truckers are just here to supply "expected weekend demand". Quick supply from Karachi or most probably Isloo to meet the LaWhore demand . No need to "invest" in inventory and risk money and forfeiture in case of a unexpected FIA raid :mrgreen:
The truck was stopped at check post for checking and 28 thousand litres liquor was found in it.Police arrested driver Mohammad Akbar, registered case no. 2/77/18 against him and took the truck into their custody.
For whatever reasons, this truck did not make it . But who cares . For each truck that gets caught , probably at least 20 make it safely to their destination . The "cost" of doing business :mrgreen:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 21 Sep 2018 23:52
by Falijee
Here Is The Pakistani View- As Stated By "Respected" DAWN . The Reasons Why India Cancelled The Talks. As Expected , The Indian Foreign Office Spokesman Is Quoted Out Of Context ! . :mrgreen:

Analysts Anal- ists weigh in on Modi govt's U-turn on Pakistan's invitation for talks
Dawn.Com
POSTED IN FULL
Sept 21, 2018
The Indian government on Friday cancelled a meeting between the Pakistani and Indian foreign ministers, scheduled to be held on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly, just a day after confirming the development.The spokesperson of India's Ministry of External Affairs (MEA), Raveesh Kumar, claimed that the meeting has been called off due to "unclean intentions" on Pakistan's side.Analysts, however, argue that it is the upcoming Indian election that has Prime Minister Narendra Modi and the Bharti Janta Party (BJP) hesitant from engaging with Pakistan. Here's what they have to say:
India's reply sounds like script of Bollywood movie'

Zarrar Khurho, DawnNewsTV ( Effeminate ) anchor

"I am not going to fault the Pakistan government for reaching out to the Indian government, that is fairly standard for any new government. However, the language used in the Indian cancellation is nothing short of a Bollywood script or a Star Plus drama.It is an accurate assessment that with the election coming up the Indian government would not have reached out to Pakistan as they are catering to a local audience that they themselves have radicalised.In general, I don't think the relationship between Pakistan and India would normalise anywhere in the near future. This cancellation just goes to show that sides have been picked in the region and the upcoming Indian election will only escalate this situation and there may even be some military adventures closer to that time."
'Modi will lose popularity if he engages with Pakistan' Amjad Shuaib, defence analyst
"If Modi shows any flexibility towards Pakistan he will lose all the popularity he has gained through his anti-Pakistan narrative, and the election is just a few months away. Pakistan should now give a counter-narrative and highlight India's tactics to the world or else we will be shouldering all the blame for the lack of dialogue once more. We need to understand that India will not be ready for talks even in the next 10-12 years. They will be ready once they are done changing the proportion of the population in Kashmir — something that they have been actively trying to do. Once that proportion is in their favour, then they will be ready to talk. India does not want to engage in talks with Pakistan, this has always been their strategy. They first started to propagate the narrative that the civilian leaderships want peace but it is the army that is the creating hurdles for these talks. Then we see all the examples of the way their civilian leadership speaks about Pakistan. They say things like 'burn all the products that are coming from Pakistan'.
The truth is, friendship cannot be thrust upon someone, it is a two-sided affair."
'Pakistan does not have anything to lose from this' Zahid Hussain, political analyst
"I believe that this is not a major setback. We made an offer and India refused it, this does not mean we have anything to lose. We should not be too worried about this.I also think that it is okay if the talks are not happening as yet. If the meeting had occurred, there would have been a rise in expectations [that various issues between the two countries would be resolved].Pakistan is talked about a lot during the Indian election, so it is correct to think that that is part of the reason.On the other hand, they may not have wanted to talk as yet because they know that nothing would come out of it and a meeting like this would create a false perception. India is not in the mood for that right now."

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 22 Sep 2018 00:33
by Falijee
Saudi Intellectual ( A Oxymoron Phrase ! ) "Happy" That Imran Did Not Violate "Protocol" And Visited Iran First :roll:

Imran’s Saudi visit: Give him time to show he 'Khan' ( Shades Of Obama :roll: )
Arab News
Faisal J. Abbas ( Shia ? )
Sept 19, 2018
The strength of the strategic Saudi-Pakistani relationship was illustrated by the overwhelmingly warm reception Prime Minister Imran Khan received at Al-Salam Palace in Jeddah on Wednesday. Yes, a Pakistani premier choosing the Kingdom for his first international trip is the norm, but the sight of Khan in the banqueting hall alongside King Salman —Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques — was nevertheless a deeply reassuring sign. :((
Looking around the hall, it seemed that all the hot air surrounding Khan’s election had suddenly vanished. Some fake news reports had speculated that Pakistan’s new leader (who had built his popularity on the promise of reform and change) would break with protocol and favor Iran over Saudi Arabia as his maiden foreign destination.
Saudis can rest easily now that Pakis will not throw them to the " Irani wolves" :mrgreen:
However, it seems to me that Khan is determined to prove that he meant what he told Arab News before his election. In an exclusive interview with our Asia Bureau Chief Baker Atyani last July, he pledged even stronger ties with Saudi Arabia.
Does Atyani "know" that Imran is Also Known As U Turn Khan !
Of course, it is only a month since Khan assumed office, so it would be unfair to make a final assessment. In particular, analysts familiar with the political scene in Islamabad say Khan will need time to learn the ropes; possibly more than most of his predecessors, since he is not one of the “usual suspects” to occupy high office.
Does Faisal Abbas know that Imran did NOT win in a fair and square election. He was (s)elected rather than elected :mrgreen:
Pakistan can be a valuable partner in supporting Vision 2030, which will create many mutual opportunities. There are also vital religious, economic, cultural and military ties that can be built upon and developed to greater heights.
Faisal Abbas
Pakistan can "supply" brawn and brain for so-called Vision 2030 . If you are thinking of financial contribution for The Vision, forget it , Pakistan is bankrupt :mrgreen:
As a journalist who has interviewed him twice, I believe Khan deserves that time, and the space to fulfill his agenda — but then he must strain every sinew to communicate it. After all, it cannot be denied that there is a degree of ambiguity surrounding his premiership —understandable given that even in cricket-mad Pakistan it is not common to have a renowned former cricketer as prime minister. :((
From a Saudi perspective, there is no lack of understanding of how important the relationship with Islamabad is; the Kingdom has been, and always will be, committed to standing by Pakistan in its economical crises. However, what the new Saudi leadership seeks, as with all its allies, is a much deeper and more meaningful relationship.
I doubt that Immy will break ties with Iran, if this is what is being hinted here :mrgreen:
What is different from before is that both countries now have men at the helm who are determined on change, reform and fighting corruption: Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman and Imran Khan. This is why much hope rests on the meeting between the two that took place shortly after King Salman’s luncheon. To continue the cricket analogy, this meeting was The Ashes of regional diplomacy. It is what comes next that will determine if Khan is as successful a politician as he was a cricketer.
Not sure Imran is "comfortable" with the comparison with MBS :mrgreen: