Indo-UK: News & Discussion

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Mar 2010 04:19

With Sterling depreciating like no tomorrow ,time for Indians to buy assests on cheap in UK and start British India Company to generate good employment. Lets hope finnancial services/oil market etc move to either Mumbai or Shanghai for safe keeping . This is one time i wish we had reserve like that of China or have Cashed in Swiss bank accounts of indians and reverse the table on them.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 02 Mar 2010 09:22

Prem bhai,

Be careful what you wish for. Better not to touch UK-stan with good money for until after they default (and default they will - See Stein's law for why).

Meanwhile rumors are afloat about a possible hung parliament in UKstan. Labor's running at its narrowest negative lead against the tories, reports say. Labor returning to power is the best we ardent UK-stani fans can hope for, IMHO. Labor alone can speed UK to its true destiny.

Meanwhile, even with their ekhanomic chaddis on literal fire, UK-stani penchant for playing with subcontinental fires hasn't dulled one whit, apparently. The UK phoren office gandus want India to talk Kashmir with TSP, for chrissakes. What locus standi does UK-stan currently have in the dispute, eh? Meanwhile their intell continues to mollycoddle anti-Yindia insurgencies on every stripe. Theek hai, we've taken a lot of BS from them opver the decades, a little more for a little longer won't kill us. But a fall in UQ sovereign credit rating 2 notches will kill them. And all their fancy accounting gimmicks and QE and distractions and sliming can't putoff the inevitable forever. Or maybe it can. Time will tell. Jai Ho.

Neshant · Post by **Neshant** » 02 Mar 2010 11:42

My view is they want a war around India so it takes the world's attention off their own sinking economy.

Plus a war would slow/halt India's rise to the next rung of power - i.e. their kursi.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 02 Mar 2010 17:44

The classless Bshits are at it again...
Modi, IPL franchises bugging England players like crazy: PCA

LONDON: England's Cricketers' Association claims that IPL commissioner Lalit Modi and the franchises are "bugging players like crazy" to commit participation in the lucrative Twenty20 event but are refusing to acknowledge their security fears.

Professional Cricketers Association (PCA) director of legal affairs Ian Smith said Modi, who had earlier claimed that "heavens won't fall if international players refuse to come for the Indian Premier League (IPL)", has been "bugging players like crazy" to commit.

Kindly don't come then. Should call their bluff. I recall some firang players retuiring from first class cricket in their home boards to be able to come play IPL.
Sala, brit gandus couldn't create an IPL of their own in kirket. Their Alan Sanford wala tamasha flopped so miserably, it must have rankled and hence these packee statements.

Heck, I dare the Ukstanis to start their oqwn rival IPL. Play with packees. Spare us the attitude though. Hmmph.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 02 Mar 2010 18:00

Hari Seldon wrote:The classless Bshits are at it again...
Modi, IPL franchises bugging England players like crazy: PCA

LONDON: England's Cricketers' Association claims that IPL commissioner Lalit Modi and the franchises are "bugging players like crazy" to commit participation in the lucrative Twenty20 event but are refusing to acknowledge their security fears.

Professional Cricketers Association (PCA) director of legal affairs Ian Smith said Modi, who had earlier claimed that "heavens won't fall if international players refuse to come for the Indian Premier League (IPL)", has been "bugging players like crazy" to commit.
Kindly don't come then. Should call their bluff. I recall some firang players retuiring from first class cricket in their home boards to be able to come play IPL.
Sala, brit gandus couldn't create an IPL of their own in kirket. Their Alan Sanford wala tamasha flopped so miserably, it must have rankled and hence these packee statements.

Heck, I dare the Ukstanis to start their oqwn rival IPL. Play with packees. Spare us the attitude though. Hmmph.

The last paragraph says it all :

Meanwhile, Graham Napier left to join Mumbai Indians on Monday, while Kings XI Punjab batsman Ravi Bopara, who had earlier claimed that "cricket is not worth dying for", is scheduled to leave on Tuesday for the tournament starting March 12.

Other related news:

And here is Michael Vaughan with his ears close to the ground.
http://www.cricinfo.com/england/content ... 48573.html

Vaughan recently criticised the ECB for its "arrogant" stance against the BCCI and its role in promoting the Champions League, writing in the Daily Telegraph that county players must play in such tournaments "to earn a few quid and get a massive buzz from playing in big grounds in front of decent crowds, something they never experience at home".

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 02 Mar 2010 19:10

This programme is not to be missed:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/disp ... /episode-1

A good documentary on what BRF ites have been saying all along about the creation of Londonistan. If someone can get it on youtube or torrent, be sure to catch it!

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 02 Mar 2010 19:18

Tanaji wrote:This programme is not to be missed:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/disp ... /episode-1

A good documentary on what BRF ites have been saying all along about the creation of Londonistan. If someone can get it on youtube or torrent, be sure to catch it!

Saw it yesterday. Was about to post it but the video is not yet there.

Some points I can recollect now:

- IFE infiltrating mainstream parties to fulfil its agenda
- Atleast 1 local council has been completely taken over
- Councillors with IFE links refusing to give grants to organisations with secular outlook.

Did you notice the term "Asian muslims" being used frequently? I wonder why the presenter chose to be PC over this non-PC program!

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 02 Mar 2010 23:44

Ajatshatru wrote:Youtube has this....is this the same one?

Dispatches Britain's Islamic Republic. 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWJuTnH6e1Q

Yes it is.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 03 Mar 2010 03:39

Argentina was celebrating a diplomatic coup today in its attempt to force Britain to accept talks on the future of the Falkland Islands, after an extraordinary two-hour meeting in Buenos Aires between Hillary Clinton and the country’s President Fernández de Kirchner.

Responding to a request from Mrs Kirchner for “friendly mediation” between Britain and Argentina, Mrs Clinton said she agreed that negotiations were a sensible way forward and offered “to encourage both countries to sit down”.

Her intervention defied Britain’s long-standing position that there should be no negotiations unless the islands’ 3,000 inhabitants asked for them.

It was hailed in Buenos Aires as a major diplomatic victory, but condemned in the Falklands. Britain insisted there was no need for mediation as long as the islanders wanted to remain British. “We don’t think that’s necessary,” a Downing Street spokesman said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 047309.ece

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 03 Mar 2010 05:40

^^^ Would it be too much to ask for for our MEA to issue a statement counseling dialogue between UQ and Argentina as the 'only' sensible option at this 'sensitive' juncture in that part of the world?

Just wondering only. Like Vina garu once said about the brits:

Kick them when they're down.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 03 Mar 2010 19:41

UK Muslim Leader: Islam Not a Religion of Peace

"You can't say that Islam is a religion of peace," Choudary told CBN News. "Because Islam does not mean peace. Islam means submission. So the Muslim is one who submits. There is a place for violence in Islam. There is a place for jihad in Islam."

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 03 Mar 2010 20:04

"You can't say that Islam is a religion of peace," Choudary told CBN News. "Because Islam does not mean peace. Islam means submission. So the Muslim is one who submits. There is a place for violence in Islam. There is a place for jihad in Islam."

Sri Anjem Choudhary, founder profet of the Al Mujrahijron is a British Paki. A British paki == british + paki i.e. a cross between Scylla and Charybdis. May UQ be blessed with many more such British pakis only. A fitting tribute to the vile hatreds and ethnic divisions and assorted terrorist insurgencies they have ignited, fueled and fanned against their former colonies.

Meanwhile, here's an interesting tweet. Seems the 1993 Surat bomber has been found - where else but in UKstan! Extraditing him will be a bear though coz the Bshitish courts will rule that as a muslim he will be discriminated against by India's criminal justice system (essentially what they said in the Gulshan Kr murder case for Nadeem).

Great story break by @SumonCNNIBN on 1993 Surat bomber traced to UK.

Real name of Tiger Hanif: Mohammed Hanif Umerji Patel, 49/wanted for Surat bombing 17 years ago/ traced to a Bolton grocery store

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 03 Mar 2010 22:55

Two women were stopped from boarding a plane at Manchester Airport after refusing to undergo a full body scan.

The passengers were due to fly to Islamabad on 19 February when they were selected at random to go through the new scanning machine.

One, who is believed to be a Muslim, refused on religious reasons and the other cited health grounds.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manc ... 547416.stm

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 03 Mar 2010 23:01

Tanaji wrote:This programme is not to be missed:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/disp ... /episode-1

A good documentary on what BRF ites have been saying all along about the creation of Londonistan. If someone can get it on youtube or torrent, be sure to catch it!

The part about how they organise political campaigns is enlightening, especially the part where they are able to sidestep 60% of the voting population. I suppose similar dynamics would operate in India.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 04 Mar 2010 00:09

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/1993-surat-b ... ml?from=tn

1993 Surat bombing suspect arrested in UK

Press Trust Of India

IN THE NET: A city court in London will decide over Tiger Hanif's extradition to India.

London: A key 1993 Surat terror bombing suspect, hunted by police worldwide for over 17 years, was arrested from a north England grocery store.

A city court in London will decide over his extradition to India.

The 49-year-old Mohammed Hanif Umerji Patel alias Tiger Hanif was traced to the grocery store in Bolton by Scotland Yard and later arrested from a house in Astley Street in Halliwell on February 16, a spokesman of the Metropolitan Police said on Wednesday.

Tiger Hanif has been remanded in custody and will appear at City of Westminister Magistrate Court on March 25 where the India government application for his extradition will come up.

Hanif is wanted by the Indian authorities in connection with a terror bombings in Surat in Gujarat which killed an eight-year-old schoolgirl and left 12 others wounded.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 04 Mar 2010 06:36

Michael Foot: Ninety six years in the life of a passionate English radical

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 04 Mar 2010 09:46

For the incorrigible Brit bashers:

Exhausted by the burden of its pretensions, the UK should soon offer its seat on the security council of the United Nations to its former colony. Its condition would be that France does the same in favour of the European Union. Whether or not such enlightened statesmanship is forthcoming (presumably not), we are moving into the age of continental superpowers. Asia will be home to not one, but two, of them.

India's elephant charges on through the economic crisis

By Martin Wolf

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f063d598-2663 ... abdc0.html

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 04 Mar 2010 18:17

New Delhi, Mar 4 (PTI) India will take up with the UK any case of students not getting their entitled fee refund on courses they could not pursue because of Britain's decision to temporarily suspend student visas from three centres.

http://www.ptinews.com/news/546877_Indi ... ents--fees

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 04 Mar 2010 18:42

sanjaykumar wrote:For the incorrigible Brit bashers:

...

By Martin Wolf

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f063d598-2663 ... abdc0.html

I strongly disagree with following paragraph in Martin Fowler's article:

India and China are both ancient civilisations. But China's ancient state has a powerful legitimacy. India's state is young.

The statement above is a blatant lie. There is either a lack of knowledge on the part of Mr. Wolf or he is just being a Brit.

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 12 Mar 2010 14:46

British multiculturalism vs French integration of Muslim immigrants

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 12 Mar 2010 15:01

Britain's trade deficit widens

Britain's trade deficit with the rest of the world widened unexpectedly in January after lower sales of chemicals and other commodities led a drop in exports. The trade gap in physical goods widened to 7.99 billion pounds ($12 billion), well above the 7 billion pounds forecast by analysts, according to figures from the Office for National Statistics. {errrr that a a 14% shocka}

The figures were a disappointment given that economists had expected recent weakness in the British pound to boost exports. The British currency dropped further after the trade report.

Trade deficit widens despite a falling currency? Hmmmm.

What does that say about long and short term competitiveness? Sure, explanations and excuses abound. sample some below....

The statistics office said there was no obvious reason for the wider deficit, although some have suggested that the particularly bad weather in January may have disrupted trade flows.
...
Officials and economists cautioned against reading too much into one month's data.
...
"The different value in sterling will take some time to feed through to improved export performance and the full benefits will not be seen until demand in our main markets picks up more strongly," he added.

Well, perhaps more Brit running down of Yindia will help. Surely, withdrawing what 'aid' the magnanimous brits dole out to 'em SDREs should help, no? But oh, turns out much of this oft-tom-tommed 'aid' is indirect subsidy for brit exporters only.

Jai ho.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Mar 2010 23:30

Karan Dixit wrote:
I strongly disagree with following paragraph in Martin Fowler's article:

India and China are both ancient civilisations. But China's ancient state has a powerful legitimacy. India's state is young.
The statement above is a blatant lie. There is either a lack of knowledge on the part of Mr. Wolf or he is just being a Brit.

It is another one of the false history which creates the the myth of monolithic China for 14 centuries.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 15 Mar 2010 02:11

In the Islamic Emirate of England, Held Wales, Occupied Scotland and English-Administered-Ireland, the Editor of Al-Times wonders
Does Barack Obama give a damn about us?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 15 Mar 2010 03:16

He gifted Brown a box of DVDs including Psycho and Toy Story. Ouch.

That may be more painful than his removal of Churchill's bust (clothed I hope) from the Oval office.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 15 Mar 2010 03:37

Bikers pay tribute to soldiers killed in Afghanistan

Around 15,000 bikers roared through Wootton Bassett to honour troops killed in Afghanistan in the biggest ride of its kind.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 15 Mar 2010 03:39

JE Menon wrote:He gifted Brown a box of DVDs including Psycho and Toy Story. Ouch.

And those turned out to be region-locked to US

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 15 Mar 2010 11:05

Some British psudo-racists are publickly lying to the teeth that there was no Indian Army in Second world war, infact there is no other soilders except "English".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSFrDGtvUlE

In retaliation, the multi-culturists are exaggerating the "Muslim" component in the British Indian Army to show how "British" the muslims are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm5oTpJ4vPI

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 15 Mar 2010 11:24

Acharya wrote:
Karan Dixit wrote: I strongly disagree with following paragraph in Martin Fowler's article:

India and China are both ancient civilisations. But China's ancient state has a powerful legitimacy. India's state is young

The statement above is a blatant lie. There is either a lack of knowledge on the part of Mr. Wolf or he is just being a Brit.
It is another one of the false history which creates the the myth of monolithic China for 14 centuries.

I started 'White Tiger' recently -- therein also the claim is made that only three countries have never been occupied. Among those are listed China and Afghanistan. I had to laugh. I'm sure Mongolians will have a few comments and so will Japanese. There seems to be ready acceptance (including some desis) that other countries have ancient 'legitimacy' but India is a newly formed entity. Among desis it might be due to not knowing the real history.

shyam · Post by **shyam** » 15 Mar 2010 11:41

My close friend's grandfather was in the British Indian Army, and was in Italy during WWII. He was from Konkan area.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 15 Mar 2010 11:54

Rony wrote: In retaliation, the multi-culturists are exaggerating the "Muslim" component in the British Indian Army to show how "British" the muslims are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm5oTpJ4vPI

I would'nt lose sleep over it, they get to keep pakis. Looks like their fate is rubber stamped by allah himself.

bart · Post by **bart** » 15 Mar 2010 20:30

viv wrote: I started 'White Tiger' recently -- therein also the claim is made that only three countries have never been occupied. Among those are listed China and Afghanistan. I had to laugh. I'm sure Mongolians will have a few comments and so will Japanese. There seems to be ready acceptance (including some desis) that other countries have ancient 'legitimacy' but India is a newly formed entity. Among desis it might be due to not knowing the real history.

That Arvind Adiga guy who wrote that book has thinking that is pratically naxal. This is not born of ignorance but of traitorous commie/ultra-left hatred and self loathing of India.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Mar 2010 00:54

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/uk-fi ... my/592917/
UK firms come calling to learn concept of jugaad in Indian economy
It is not just the opening up of economy, but the relatively personal way of doing business, as also the concept of jugaad (quick-fix solutions) that makes India an attractive destination for foreign Small and Medium Enterprises (SMEs), according to some overseas business establishments. Eighteen such firms from the UK are now learning the nuances of doing business in India at IIM-A, and these are some of the few things they claim to have learned here.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 20 Mar 2010 17:45

Should the UK fund toilets in Mumbai slums?

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 21 Mar 2010 13:47

Gerard wrote:Should the UK fund toilets in Mumbai slums?

Last year Britain gave almost £300m (US$500m) to India in development aid. But India plans to spend more than US$1bn on its space programme next year.

Aha!!
the beeb has finally overdid itself this time.

Toilets+ Mumbai slums + British Aid + plight of IM's + and last but not the least: our Space Program

All in all a nice try ala "The Mercantor projection" but alas the SDRE's have become quite insightful them selves

.
Though, it can still serve as a stimulating read for the "long has been" Brit oxbridge types and the tommy types off the street while tugging at each other's d i c k s .

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 21 Mar 2010 19:52

In the Islamic Emirate of England, Held-Wales, Occupied-Scotland and English-Administered-Ireland...

Rise in marriages between cousins ‘is putting children’s health at risk’

Fifty-five per cent of British Pakistanis are married to first cousins and in Bradford the figure is 75 per cent. British Pakistanis represent 3 per cent of all births in Britain but one third of children with recessive disorders.

biswas · Post by **biswas** » 21 Mar 2010 19:56

Gerard wrote:In the Islamic Emirate of England, Held-Wales, Occupied-Scotland and English-Administered-Ireland...

Rise in marriages between cousins ‘is putting children’s health at risk’

Fifty-five per cent of British Pakistanis are married to first cousins and in Bradford the figure is 75 per cent. British Pakistanis represent 3 per cent of all births in Britain but one third of children with recessive disorders.

Holee shite.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 21 Mar 2010 20:11

No wonder they are ready to don the vest at the drop of a hat

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 22 Mar 2010 08:50

People in countries like UQ and Pakiland where incest is prevalent need to realize that inbreeding depression is very real and dangerous.

Here is another saga of british incest:

UK Professor Facing Incest Charges To Appear In Court

http://www.lex18.com/news/uk-professor- ... ourt/#redo

Could widespread incest problem in UQ be attributed to rising illetarcy there? Here is a report from BBC which came out few years ago:

One in five UK adults 'illiterate'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/811832.stm

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 22 Mar 2010 09:31

He contrasted it unfavourably with how the British Empire governed India. “It is one thing to take over a territory and then pour energy and resources into administering it and normalising it. Rightly or wrongly, that’s what the British Empire did — in India, for example.

I am sure he (or his children) will be equally charitable when India is in a position to return the favour.

Ameet · Post by **Ameet** » 22 Mar 2010 10:18

New UK immigration policy a mixed bag for Indians

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/New ... 99955.cmsw