Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 22 Mar 2016 23:24

Muslim nursing staff in Bradford stopped elderly residents from having bacon: report

And Muslim Taxi Drivers in North America (ie US/ Canada ) refuse to pick up fares who have pork products in their grocery bags !!!

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 22 Mar 2016 23:52

Falijee wrote:Muslim nursing staff in Bradford stopped elderly residents from having bacon: report

And Muslim Taxi Drivers in North America (ie US/ Canada ) refuse to pick up fares who have pork products in their grocery bags !!!

Do you have a link to the second one ?

-M

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 23 Mar 2016 05:55

Mihaylo wrote:
Falijee wrote:Muslim nursing staff in Bradford stopped elderly residents from having bacon: report

And Muslim Taxi Drivers in North America (ie US/ Canada ) refuse to pick up fares who have pork products in their grocery bags !!!

Do you have a link to the second one ?

-M

Mihaylo-ji :
The second one (Muslim drivers....) actually occurred a couple of years ago, in a Canadian city, where an Arab Taxi Driver refused to pick up an elderly person downtown, when he noticed that the person had a slab of meat, which turned out to be a pork product; a complaint was later lodged to the concerned City Office (taxis are regulated locally )against the taxi driver and cab company ; the cab driver was just "let go"- after a feeble apology !

Muslim Brotherhood under the microscope in Canada - Toronto Sun
www.torontosun.com/.../muslim-brotherhood-under-the-microscope-in-c...
Mar 7, 2015 - Related Stories ... The Prime Minister's Office wouldn't name the Muslim Brotherhood .... where they refuse to handle pork products, others pray in European .... woman 'not getting the message' after 14 distracted-driving tickets ... Taxi Scam ... Sun publications: Ottawa Sun · Winnipeg Sun · Calgary Sun ...

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 23 Mar 2016 06:42

^Thanks. It won't be long before Canadian multiculturislam ends up in the same ditch as European multiculturislam

-M

Melwyn · Post by **Melwyn** » 23 Mar 2016 07:33

The Quran's deadly role in inspiring Belgian slaughter: Column

Once again images of the injured flood social media channels, reminding Americans of the ever-present reality that it could have been us. How is this happening? Why are people becoming radicalized, and so close to home? I am concerned how little we in the West understand why peaceful Muslims who live among us are drawn into radical Islam.

As a Muslim growing up in the United States, I was taught by my imams and the community around me that Islam is a religion of peace. My family modeled love for others and love for country, and not just by their words. My father served in the U.S. Navy throughout my childhood, starting as a seaman and retiring as a lieutenant commander. I believed wholeheartedly a slogan often repeated at my mosque after 9/11: “The terrorists who hijacked the planes also hijacked Islam.”

Yet as I began to investigate the Quran and the traditions of Muhammad’s life for myself in college, I found to my genuine surprise that the pages of Islamic history are filled with violence. How could I reconcile this with what I had always been taught about Islam?

In February 2015, the U.S. State Department Acting Spokesperson Marie Harf suggested that a “lack of opportunity for jobs” might be a significant factor in radicalization and terrorism. Alternatively, Suraj Lakhani, a scholar of radicalization in Wales, suggested that the process is driven by religious concerns and a drive to bolster one’s personal identity. He implies that young Muslims ought not be allowed to hear ISIL messages or interact with their recruiters.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 23 Mar 2016 08:00

Very simple, repeat with me: Islam is a doctrine of complete, continous war against the existing power structure.

It reads like a manual on psychological warfare. What quacks like a duck, walks like a duck must be a ........

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 23 Mar 2016 08:33

amitkv wrote:The Quran's deadly role in inspiring Belgian slaughter: Column

Once again images of the injured flood social media channels, reminding Americans of the ever-present reality that it could have been us. How is this happening? Why are people becoming radicalized, and so close to home? I am concerned how little we in the West understand why peaceful Muslims who live among us are drawn into radical Islam.

As a Muslim growing up in the United States, I was taught by my imams and the community around me that Islam is a religion of peace. My family modeled love for others and love for country, and not just by their words. My father served in the U.S. Navy throughout my childhood, starting as a seaman and retiring as a lieutenant commander. I believed wholeheartedly a slogan often repeated at my mosque after 9/11: “The terrorists who hijacked the planes also hijacked Islam.”....

The author's solution is to convert to Christianity.

dada · Post by **dada** » 23 Mar 2016 10:53

Multiculturalism

In essence , the basic idea is that a human society should include as many different/varied cultures/mindsets as possible. Each mind brings with it its own traditions/beliefs/worldviews. If it shares them and the mind is open enough to accept traditions/beliefs/worldviews of others, then the whole society grows mentally !. The idea of pluralism is closely related to it .

If I have 1 Rupee coin & you have 1 Rupee coin & we exchange our respective coins, then we are left with 1 rupee coin each. But if I have 1 idea & you have another idea & if we exchange/share our ideas , then we both are left with 2 ideas each !. Note that these ideas may be social ideas,cultural ideas,political ideas, economic ideas etc . Our minds are more richer than before. Now what we do with them , depends primarily on our respective mindsets. Normally a culture which holds the HIGHER-BROADER-DEEPER worldview will benefit more ! A closed mind does not benefit from multiculturalism.

We can look at multiculturalism as a modern european social experiment. (But we Indians have already been living multiculturalism for the last 5000 yrs !! & not just experimenting /testing the idea with all its attendant problems/mess/disorders). Multiculturalism in india's context will only lead to greater integration of the indian subcontinent. thks to the basic hindu/non-abrahamic worldview ! . But Multiculturalism is more likely to result in the split /unravelling of the European experiment .(an opposite result) .why ? . Abrahamic worldview is not likely to resolve the mess more easily than the experiment of India !

Europeans colonial powers used similar ideas to unravel/divide & split/weaken the colonies they colonised ! I think their game is up.
The unravelling of the EU is in India's interest. So support it covertly ! use muslims to split EU.

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Mar 2016 12:53

arun wrote:Newspaper report says Spanish Foreign Minister José Manuel García-Margallo has attributed todays Brussels attack to Mohammadden group, Islamic State. No details given on any underlying information that has made the Spanish Foreign Minister say this. However given the repeated acts of violence being unleashed by followers of Mohammaddenism around the world, I will not at all be surprised that this act of terrorism has been committed by individual/s motivated by Mohammadden religion:

Spanish FM attributes Brussels attack to IS

Mohammadden link to Brussels terrorist attack established with brothers Khalid and Brahim El Bakraoui identified as perpetrators of the attack which killed 31. A third adherent of Mohammaddenism by name of Najim Laachraoui is being sought by Belgian Police:

Khalid and Brahim el-Bakraoui named as suicide bombers behind Brussels Airport attacks

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Mar 2016 13:11

(Iranian Origin ?) Rita Panahi writes an article titled “Terror has a religion and its name is radical Islam” in the Australian newspaper Sun Herald. Clearly Rita Panahi does not subscribe to the touted concept that Mohammaddenism is “The Religion Of Peace”peddled. Excerpts :

Belgium serves as the perfect example of what happens when leaders are so preoccupied with respecting cultural sensitivities that they refuse to acknowledge harsh realities that require an urgent response.

Until the west is mature enough to have an honest discussion about Islam — in particular the indisputable fact that there are threads within the religion that lead to terrorism like that seen in Brussels — innocents will continue to die in airport lounges, train stations, concert halls, and cafes, indeed anywhere that is seen as a soft target.

The problems with Islam run far deeper than the tiny extremist minority who commit violent acts.

The battle against radical Islam is the greatest challenge of our times. It’s a force that won’t be defeated by feel-good hashtags or candlelit vigils.

We must stop the delusion, appeasement and moral relativism that the Islamists prey upon. You can’t tackle Islamist terror if you deny its existence and growing influence.

From here:

Rita Panahi on Brussels bombing: Terror has a religion and its name is radical Islam

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 23 Mar 2016 13:27

^^Only for subscribers.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Mar 2016 13:34

ME funded liberal MMS can not hide the fact of terror attacks being carried out by Peaceful time and again. How long this drama of Islam is not responsible will convincing if attacks happen at regular intervals. Trump and Le Pen type leadership will be difficult to stop by politically correct leaders even now. Soon it may prove to be the downfall of liberals in EU.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 23 Mar 2016 13:45

arun wrote:(Iranian Origin ?) Rita Panahi writes an article titled “Terror has a religion and its name is radical Islam” in the Australian newspaper Sun Herald. Clearly Rita Panahi does not subscribe to the touted concept that Mohammaddenism is “The Religion Of Peace”peddled. Excerpts :

From here:

Rita Panahi on Brussels bombing: Terror has a religion and its name is radical Islam

HOW much more carnage must be endured before the wilfully blind among us accept the indisputable fact that terror has a religion and its name is radical Islam.

The bodies of the victims of Islamic State’s latest atrocity, this time in Brussels, were barely cold before the apologists and deniers started preaching the now familiar mantra that Islamist terror has nothing to do with Islam.

It’s precisely the kind of cowardice that aids and abets the extremists who seek to destroy us.

Belgium serves as the perfect example of what happens when leaders are so preoccupied with respecting cultural sensitivities that they refuse to acknowledge harsh realities that require an urgent response.

The blown out windows of Zaventem Airport after the deadly attack in Brussels. AP Photo/Peter Dejong
In Belgium repeated warnings went unheeded by spineless leaders who refused to act, preferring to adopt an ever more permissive attitude to rogue elements of the Muslim population who not only refused to assimilate but were openly hostile to Western values and laws.

The country that’s spawned the greatest number of western Islamic State fighters per capita also happens to be one where progressive, politically correct policies have been implemented, to devastating effect. And yet those same failed policies continue to be championed in Australia by those far more terrified of imagined Islamophobia than real terror

In a display of ignorance and denial masquerading as independent journalism today’s print edition of The Age did not even mention the world Islam or Muslim.

It’s this type of self-censorship from left-wing media that perpetuates the problem; the cultural elite continue to conceal or twist the truth in furtherance of their confused agenda.

Until the west is mature enough to have an honest discussion about Islam — in particular the indisputable fact that there are threads within the religion that lead to terrorism like that seen in Brussels — innocents will continue to die in airport lounges, train stations, concert halls, and cafes, indeed anywhere that is seen as a soft target.

The problems with Islam run far deeper than the tiny extremist minority who commit violent acts.

Three men who are suspected of taking part in the attacks at Belgium's Zaventem Airport. Source: Belgian Federal Police
Those within the Muslim community who hold sympathetic attitudes to jihadists and those who demonise the “decadent” West and abhor our values of equality and freedom must also be challenged.

Clive Kessler, emeritus professor of sociology and anthropology at the University of NSW has been studying the sources of militant Islam for over 50 years and believes that a core problem is that “the mainstream is not distinctively different in its basic attitudes from the radicals.”

“Increasingly, the militants and the mainstream share a common mindset and sets of attitudes,” wrote Prof Kessler.

“That will remain the case … so long as the Islamic mainstream remains unreformed and untransformed in its basic presuppositions; so long as it remains an outsider to modernity.”

That doesn’t mean that the mainstream would ever commit an act of violence but it helps explain the often tolerant attitudes to the extremist elements in their midst.

It’s telling that terror suspect, Salah Abdeslam, was concealed and protected in Brussels for months after the Paris attacks that killed 130 people.

There were riots in Molenbeek after Abdeslam’s March 18 arrest and there has been widespread speculation that the latest attacks were in retaliation for his capture. Or perhaps the terror network bought forward their plans concerned that he would talk and thwart their efforts to cause maximum death and destruction.

Police and investigators search an area near the Metro station that was bombed in Brussels. Picture: Ella Pellegrini
The truth is the latest incidents in Brussels were hardly a surprise; this tiny, beautiful land has descended into Europe’s jihadi central.

A 2002 report by a Belgian parliamentary committee found that the country had become an ideal “launch pad for terrorist attacks” across Europe and that radical elements were already operating their own “Islamic police” force.

But instead of addressing the growing hostility and xenophobia exhibited by some elements of the Muslim population, the Belgians went to ever greater lengths to placate the troublemakers.

Whistle blowers who sought to highlight the issue, particularly in places such as Molenbeek, were demonised as racists and Islamophobes and duly dismissed.

Sound familiar?

In Australia we have apologists who continue to infantilise the Muslim population, treating them as marginalised victims and holding them to a different standard to the rest of the population.

We have been lucky that our counter terror authorities have successfully foiled multiple attacks but we cannot afford to grow complacent or believe that distance gives us cover.

The three ‘lone wolf’ terror attacks, committed by Numan Haider, Man Haron Monis and Farhad Jabar, prove that a single radicalised jihadi can cause significant damage.

The battle against radical Islam is the greatest challenge of our times. It’s a force that won’t be defeated by feel-good hashtags or candlelit vigils.

We must stop the delusion, appeasement and moral relativism that the Islamists prey upon. You can’t tackle Islamist terror if you deny its existence and growing influence

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 24 Mar 2016 16:35

Brussels attacks: How Saudi Arabia's influence and a deal to get oil contracts sowed seeds of radicalism in Belgium

`LONDON: There are many reasons why Belgium has become a hotbed of radical Islamism. Some of the answers may lie in the implanting of Saudi Salafist preachers in the country from the 1960s.

Keen to secure oil contracts, Belgium's King Baudouin made an offer to Saudi King Faisal, who had visited Brussels in 1967: Belgium would set up a mosque in the capital, and hire Gulf-trained clerics.

At the time, Belgium was encouraging Moroccan and Turkish workers to come into the country as cheap labour. The deal between the two Kings would make the mosque their main place of worship.

Brussels already had the perfect place. An oriental pavilion designed by Belgian architect Ernest Van Humbeek had been built in the capital's Cinquantenaire park in 1879, but was falling into disuse. The 1967 deal gave the Saudis a 99-year, rent-free lease. The pavilion was refashioned by the Saudis, opening in 1978 as the Great Mosque of Brussels, as well as the seat of the Islamic and Cultural Centre of Belgium (ICC).

Although the mosque was treated as the official voice of Muslims in Belgium, its radical Salafist teachings came from a very different tradition to the Islam of the new immigrants.
Today, there are around 600,000 people of Moroccan and Turkish origin in Belgium, a country of 11 million.

"The Moroccan community comes from mountainous regions and rift valleys, not the desert. They come from the Maliki school of Islam, and are a lot more tolerant and open than the Muslims from other regions like Saudi Arabia," says George Dallemagne, a Belgian member of parliament for the centre-right CDH, an opposition party. "However, many of them were re-Islamified by the Salafist clerics and teachers from the Great Mosque. Some Moroccans were even given scholarships to study in Medina, in Saudi Arabia."

Dallemagne says the Salafist clerics have tried to undermine attempts by Moroccan immigrants to integrate into Belgium. "We like to think Saudi Arabia is an ally and friend, but the Saudis are always engaged in double-talk: they want an alliance with the West when it comes to fighting Shias in Iran, but nonetheless have a conquering ideology when it comes to their religion in the rest of the world," he said.

Dallemagne has sponsored many resolutions in the Belgian parliament aimed at loosening ties with Saudi Arabia, and reducing the Salafist influence in Belgium. "We can't have a dialogue with countries that want to destabilise us," he says. "The problem is that it is only recently that authorities are finally opening their eyes to this."

The mosque has sought to send a strong message opposing the latest attacks, with Mohamed Ndiaye, one of the centre's imams, releasing a statement in the aftermath: "We would like to express our deep sorrow over the Paris attacks. Our thoughts are with the people of Paris and the victims' families." Other officials have also come out to repeat the message that Islam is a religion of peace and has nothing to do with the terrorists of Molenbeek.

But the mosque remains a concern for the Belgian government: in August, a WikiLeaks cable revealed that a staff member of the Saudi embassy in Belgium was expelled years ago over his active role in spreading the extreme so-called Takfiri dogma. The cable - between the Saudi King and his Home Minister - referred to Belgian demands that the ICC's Saudi director, Khalid Alabri, should leave the country, saying that his messages were far too extreme, and that his status as director meant he should not be preaching anyway.
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Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 24 Mar 2016 16:52

The Latest: Poland won't take refugees after Brussels

Poland's government says it is not prepared to accept any refugees following the deadly attacks in Brussels.

The ruling party, Law and Justice, is staunchly anti-migrant, but had previously indicated it would respect a commitment by the previous government to resettle around 7,000 refugees.

But government spokesman Rafal Bochenek indicated Wednesday that Prime Minister Beata Szydlo's government is reversing that position.

He said that "at the moment Poland is not able to accept immigrants."

He said the government fears that Europe is not able to eliminate security risks connected to the mass influx of migrants, adding: "for us the most important thing is the safety of Poles."

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arun · Post by **arun** » 25 Mar 2016 07:39

arun wrote:Strange that some convicts who on average have a higher propensity than the general population to commit acts of violence are attracted to a religion whose adherents claim is “The Religion Of Peace”:

France battles to prevent Islamist radicalisation in jails

Problem of convicts falling prey in prison to idea that it is acceptable to inflict acts of Mohammadden religion motivated violence has been in the news over the past few days and is not restricted to France.

Indonesia, February 5:

Indonesia’s Overcrowded Prisons Are a Breeding Ground for Islamic Extremism

US, February 5:

Grassley raises concerns on prisons using terror-tied groups to vet Islamic chaplains

UK, February 8:

Terrorists could be locked in separate prisons under David Cameron's crackdown on extremism in Britain's jails

UK, February 10:

Majority of Prison Imams Teach Hard Line Islam Study Suggests

Moving on from France, UK and Indonesia; Newsweek and Deutsche Welle now chime in on the problem of Mohammadden religion based violence being honed in the prisons of Belgium and Germany:

Belgian Prisons: Breeding Grounds for Islamist Extremists?

Germans should be very wary of heeding the advice of the quoted Mohammadden Cleric that the way forward to tackling Mohammadden religion based violence being honed in prisons is certainly not throwing yet more Mohammaddenism at it:

Germany neglecting Islamist de-radicalization in prisons

arun · Post by **arun** » 25 Mar 2016 15:56

Joh Gujranwala mein gaan*u ,woh Glasgow mein bhi gaan*u .

Glasgow based Mohammadden Cleric with roots in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan praises bodyguard who killed Governor of Pakistan Occupied Punjab for “crime” of supporting Christist blasphemer, Asia Bibi:

British mosque leader praises religious extremist killer who was hanged for murdering politician

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 25 Mar 2016 22:14

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 25 Mar 2016 23:10

Anti-Muslim spat: Myanmar's leader Suu Kyi loses cool with Paki Sympathizer BBC’s Mishal Husain-

Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Myanmar politician Aung San Suu Kyi recently lost her cool during an interview with BBC’s Mishal Husain.
After getting grilled by the BBC presenter, Suu Kyi considered a symbol of virtuousness in the West, angrily muttered off-air: ‘No one told me I was going to be interviewed by a Muslim.’

The spat between the two notable Asian women has just emerged according to a new book, The Lady And The Generals: Aung San Suu Kyi And Burma’s Struggle For Freedom, by Peter Popham.

During the interview, Husain repeatedly asked Suu Kyi to condemn anti-Islamic sentiment and the wave of mob-led massacres of Muslims in Myanmar, and she declined to do so.
However, she said: “I think there are many, many Buddhists who have also left the country for various reasons,” she replied. “This is a result of our sufferings under a dictatorial regime.”

Mishal Hussein, and a great "admirer" of the late Gen Sahibzada Yakub Khan,( Ex Paki FM,Ex Military Commander, East Pak and top Zia crony,) should know that the whole world considers Buddhists a peaceful race and "anti-Islamic sentiment" is endemic throughout the world !

Most of the country’s huge Buddhist majority dislikes its small Muslim community with a passion, (point proven !) so it is thought Suu Kyi did not want to alienate her supporters.

Husain, 43, was the first Muslim presenter of Radio 4’s Today programme. She is a mother-of-three and Northampton-born daughter of Pakistani parents (So, she already carries a lot of Paki/ Islamic garbage in her head )was educated at private school and Cambridge University.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 26 Mar 2016 02:59

Before 9/11, she used to spell her name as Michelle Hussein. She changed it to Michal after and now finally Mishal ... It says something.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Mar 2016 05:57

Being against Jihadis is not Islamophobia, Its survival.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 Mar 2016 07:22

Falijee wrote:Anti-Muslim spat: Myanmar's leader Suu Kyi loses cool with Paki Sympathizer BBC’s Mishal Husain-[
Mishal Hussein, and a great "admirer" of the late Gen Sahibzada Yakub Khan,( Ex Paki FM,Ex Military Commander, East Pak and top Zia crony,) should know that the whole world considers Buddhists a peaceful race and "anti-Islamic sentiment" is endemic throughout the world !
Most of the country’s huge Buddhist majority dislikes its small Muslim community with a passion, (point proven !) so it is thought Suu Kyi did not want to alienate her supporters.
Husain, 43, was the first Muslim presenter of Radio 4’s Today programme. She is a mother-of-three and Northampton-born daughter of Pakistani parents (So, she already carries a lot of Paki/ Islamic garbage in her head )was educated at private school and Cambridge University.

Same Haramzada Yakub Khaan who threatened Gujral with Nukes till IK told him about the return radiating gifts India will send across to exchange greeting.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Mar 2016 13:42

Scotland imam praises Taseer's killer - DAWN

GLASGOW: The imam of Scotland's biggest mosque glorified the actions of Mumtaz Qadri in messages sent out to the local Muslim community. according to a report by the BBC.

Imam Maulana Habib Ur Rehman wrote in messages, which were seen by BBC, that he is "disturbed" and "upset" at the news of Qadri's execution. He also wrote "rahmatullahi alaih" (may Allah's mercy be upon him), with the name of the convicted terrorist.

The cleric further said, "I cannot hide my pain today. A true Muslim was punished for doing which [sic] the collective will of the nation failed to carry out."

Mumtaz Qadri, an Elite Force commando was convicted of the 2011 murder of former Punjab governor Salman Taseer, and executed at the Adiala Jail in Rawalpindi on Feb 29 this year.

Qadri shot Taseer 28 times in broad daylight in Islamabad’s Kohsar Market on January 4, 2011. He was sentenced to death for assassinating Taseer on Oct 1 the same year.

Qadri said he killed Taseer over what he called the politician's vocal opposition to blasphemy laws of the country.

The cleric also drew comparison between Qadri's actions and the actions of the French resistance against Nazi occupation in World War II.

"Just when France was occupied by Nazies [sic], French did all they had to in order to protect their nation," he writes. "They were national heroes. Hanging Mumtaz Qadri has raised serious questions about Pakistan's independence. The issue is not of an individual. The issue is of national identity and Islamic spirit."

Rehman continued to raise questions about the way the Pakistani state dealt with Qadri's case.

"The fact that the nation chose to settle the issue of Reymond Davis [sic] by forcing his relatives to accept the blood money, and sending Mumtaz bhai [brother] to gallows is a source of grief and immense pain."

Central Intelligence Agency contractor Raymond Davis had shot dead two Pakistani men in Lahore in January 2011.

Davis was arrested over the killings, but set free after $2 million was paid in blood money to the families of his victims. His release was widely condemned within Pakistan.

The imam also refers to Qadri as "brother" and says that, by killing his employer whom he was paid to protect, Qadri was "carrying out the collective responsibility of the ummat," the Muslim nation as a whole and that his execution "is a collective failure of Pakistani Muslims".

Other members in the group questioned why the imam is speaking about a convicted murderer in such glowing terms, said the BBC, while another argued that Qadri took the law into his own hands and that he should not be made a hero for doing so.

The imam later clarified his messages had been taken out of context and that he was expressing his opposition to capital punishment {If he voices opposition to capital punishment, he is committing blasphemy}, according to the BBC report.

Imam Maulana Habib Ur Rehman told the BBC, "The assassination of Salman Taseer is widely condemned. Whether I agree or disagree with the views he expressed, as an Imam and as a human being I express abhorrence at the manner in which he [Qadri] was executed."

"The execution was not in accordance with Islamic teachings and principles."

Rehman's remarks are the latest controversy to hit Glasglow's Central Mosque, which is the largest place of worship of any religion in Scotland, the report says.

The mosque's charity made a £50,000 donation to the Tablighi Jamaat ─ considered by many as a controversial organisation ─ and seven members members of its ruling committee have resigned after claims of intimidation and differences of opinion about the inclusion of female and non-Pakistani Muslims in the mosque's management.

The Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR) is investigating claims of financial irregularities at the charity which runs the mosque and what it calls an "unusual" bifurcated management structure, an executive committee which manages the charity and property trustees which manage the mosque building.

arun · Post by **arun** » 27 Mar 2016 11:11

Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday yet again fails to remind adherents of Mohammaddenism of their claim that theirs is the Religion of Peace. Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden sub-sectarian level violence in Yemen with Sunni Mohammadden Group, Islamic State, attacking fellow Sunni Mohammaddens of Yemen security forces and foreign forces of Saudi Arabia led Sunni Mohammadden Coalition:

IS claims deadly Yemen suicide bombings, attack on coalition

Added later ..................

Apparently the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday just past had not one but two cases of the Sabbath day failing to remind adherents of Mohammaddenism of their claim that theirs is the Religion of Peace. In Iraq, Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion motivated violence saw Sunni Mohammadden Group, Islamic State aka ISIS, suicide bomb a football stadium. Unclear though if this was a case of sectarian or sub-sectarian violence as the town of Iskandariyah has a mixed Shia and Sunni population:

ISIS claims suicide strike that killed at least 41 in Iraq

arun · Post by **arun** » 27 Mar 2016 13:02

SSridhar wrote:Scotland imam praises Taseer's killer - DAWN

Glasgow, Scotland in the news again.

Mohammadden man detained by UK Police for “religiously prejudiced” murder of fellow Mohammadden after the murdered man had posted his love for Christists on Facebook.

Given that murdered man was born in Rabwah in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the UK Police would do well to investigate a Mohammadden sectarian angle to this murder as Rabwah is a centre of the Ahmadiyya aka Ahmadi sect of Mohammaddenism

Muslim shopkeeper murdered in suspected 'religiously prejudiced' attack after posting on Facebook of love for Christians : Detectives arrest 32-year-old Muslim man after Pakistani-born Asad Shah, 40, repeatedly stabbed in savage attack

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 Mar 2016 16:23

Many millions of Muslims 'fundamentally incompatible with the modern world', says Tony Blair

Tony Blair has said that "many millions" of Muslims hold a viewpoint that is "fundamentally incompatible with the modern world."

Rejecting arguments that Isis is simply "tens of thousands of brainwashed crazies," he continued: "[ISIS] does not seek dialogue but dominance. It cannot therefore be contained. It has to be defeated."

To mitigate against such attacks, the ex-PM argued for "active on-the-ground military support" for Arab armies, stating that Isis "have to be crushed."

He also called for the creation of a pan-national anti-terror force, saying: "We must build military capability able to confront and defeat the terrorists wherever they try to hold territory. This is a challenge for the West."

His comments, made during a Sunday Times interview, come six months after he admitted that the existence of ISIS could be blamed on Western intervention in the Arab world during the second Iraq war.

Asked by a CNN interviewer in October 2015 whether he thought the invasion of Iraq was a "principle cause" of the rise of ISIS, he said:

"I think there are elements of truth in that... Of course you can't say that those of us who removed Saddam in 2003 bear no responsibility for the situation in 2015.

"But... it's not clear to me that even if our policy did not work, subsequent policies have worked better."

However, Blair's recent comments display a hawkish approach, provoked by the rise of ISIS and what he perceives as the threat of Islamist terror attacks on European soil. He criticised those who believe that "we have caused all of this through Western policy."

He warned that "increasingly frequent acts of terrorism" could culminate in an attack "of such size and horror" that it would result in "many more victims" than the recent attack on Brussels or 2015 attacks in Paris.

This is despite the fact that the number of European terror attacks and the number of fatalities in terrorist incidents has decreased significantly over the last two decades.

In 2014, a senior Isis commander told the Guardian that the Camp Bucca detention facility operated by the US-led coalition during the Iraq war was directly responsible for the rise of the theocratic state.

"It made it all, it built our ideology," he said. "We could never have all got together like this in Baghdad, or anywhere else."

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Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 28 Mar 2016 01:30

“I don’t like this term ‘moderate’ Islam,” he said. “Islam is Islam. It is the way it always was. It will remain this way until the day of judgment.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/26/world ... pe=article

The only M&Ms are those that come in packets.

Neshant · Post by **Neshant** » 28 Mar 2016 05:33

Hard to understand the mindset of a guy who can blow up a bomb killing small children on rides celebrating.

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Bomb blast in Pakistan targeting Christians celebrating Easter with children

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/latest-bomb-b ... 03344.html

A breakaway faction of the militant Taliban group in Pakistan has claimed responsibility for an Easter Sunday bomb attack on a park in the eastern city of Lahore that killed 60 people, and wounded 300.

Ahsanullah Ahsan, spokesman for Jamaat-ul-Ahrar, told the Associated Press Sunday that a suicide bomber with the faction deliberately targeted the Christian community. He warned that more attacks would follow.

Senior police officer Haider Ashraf says the explosion took place close to the children's rides in Gulshan-e-Iqbal park, which was crowded with Christian families celebrating Easter.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Mar 2016 02:24

Watch at 9.26, The group is Paki pretending to be Syrian refugee

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Mar 2016 05:27

It seems the term Islamophobia was coined by Muslim Brotherhood!!!

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 29 Mar 2016 20:17

Scholars On Islam Explain Taqiyya (i.e Lying For Islam !) In Action

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 31 Mar 2016 00:20

Russia shows what happens when terrorists' families are targeted

Donald Trump, the leading Republican presidential candidate, was widely condemned when he called for the United States to "take out the families" of terrorists.

His approach — even after he clarified that he was not talking about killing the relatives — was dismissed by many as immoral and unlawful. Yet, it is the very tactic that Russia has pursued for decades.

It is the signature, though officially unacknowledged, policy behind Moscow's counterinsurgency and counterterrorism strategies, and Russia's actions in smashing a Muslim separatist rebellion in the Caucasus provide a laboratory for testing Trump's ideas.
The family ties that bind in terrorist groups came into focus last week after the police in Brussels disclosed that two of the three suicide bombers in the attacks there were brothers, Ibrahim and Khalid El Bakraoui. All told, analysts estimate that a third of the participants in terrorist acts are related to another attacker.

In the conflict that began in Chechnya and has since metastasized into a loosely organized Islamic rebellion throughout the Caucasus region, Russian security services routinely arrest, torture and kill relatives, rights groups say.

The Russian approach, enough to make supporters of waterboarding wince, has by some accounts been grimly effective. Abductions of family members unwound the rebel leadership in Chechnya, for example.

And siblings have a bloody track record here, as elsewhere.

In 2004, Chechen sisters blew themselves up in an airplane and a subway station a week apart. In 2011, the police say, a teenager and his older sister from Ingushetia, another troubled region, helped build a bomb that their brother exploded in the unguarded arrivals hall of Domodedovo Airport in Moscow, killing himself and 36 other people.

In the Russian view, the family is the thread that needs to be pulled to unravel the terrorist group.

"He should understand his relatives will be treated as accomplices," Kirill V. Kabanov, a member of President Vladimir Putin's human rights council, said of a potential suicide attacker.

"When a person leaves to become a terrorist, he can kill hundreds of innocents," he said. "Those are the morals we are talking about. We should understand, the relatives must fight this first. If the relative, before the fact, reported it, he is not guilty. If he did not, he is guilty."

By law, Russian security services have no authority to specifically target relatives. But the intelligence forces seldom let a detail like the lack of a legal basis interfere with their activities.

In Chechnya and neighboring Dagestan, they routinely burn or demolish the houses of people suspected of being insurgents or terrorists. Most strikingly, whole extended families are rounded up in high-profile cases, and are often held until the militant either gives up or is killed.

Maryam Akmedova, from Kabardino-Balkaria region in the North Caucasus, has seen it firsthand. Distressing though it was, she says she understood when Russian prosecutors accused her eldest son of participating in a terrorist attack, as he had never denied his involvement.

But her woes hardly stopped there.

Soon enough, security agents were questioning her younger son, though there was no evidence linking him to the attack his brother was accused of in the city of Nalchik in 2005. Eventually, the younger brother was shot and killed in 2013 by Russian security forces during an attempted arrest under murky circumstances.

"He had no involvement with anything," Akmedova said in a telephone interview. "They killed him because his brother was in prison."

The most sweeping application of the tactic came during the pacification of Chechnya, after Putin engineered the recapture of the separatist territory early in his tenure.

Relatives were used as "hooks" to lure in militants. If the militant did not switch sides, the family member disappeared. Chechnya had about 3,000 to 5,000 unresolved disappearances from 2000 to 2005 or so. The policy, executed by the Chechen leader, Ramzan A. Kadyrov, the scion of a prominent Chechen family that itself switched sides, broke the organized resistance.

The Russian security services have also manipulated relatives for various ends, such as to inadvertently pass poisoned food to suspected militants on the run.

The practice, not surprisingly, has spawned dozens of cases in the European Court of Human Rights and widespread criticism of tactics that, while seemingly effective in the short term, have deeply alienated extended families whose members bear grudges to this day.

"There is systematic abuse of the family members of insurgents," Ekaterina Sokirianskaia, an analyst at the International Crisis Group, and an expert on the Caucasus, said in a telephone interview.

"There can be short-term results, but I wouldn't call it success," she said. "You can prevent some episodes of violence at the moment, but you are radicalizing whole communities."

"When innocent Muslims are targeted for the expediency of security services, this legitimizes the jihadist cause," she said.

Cheers

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 Mar 2016 03:15

US was also targeting the Taliban guys when they were visiting their families. Recall one of the TTP guy got killed in a drone strike on his house terrace when he came down from the hills. We don't know who all got killed along with him.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 31 Mar 2016 17:00

By Christian Datoc
‘Trump Has Finally Inspired Me To Leave Islam’ — Trump Fan Ditches Her Religion: Daily Caller

Moderators on the subreddit claim to have independently verified the post’s authenticity.

Published on Mar 30, 2016
Trump has finally inspired me to leave Islam: reddit.com

Hey the_donald, I'm a 19 year old girl living in America with muslim immigrant parents. Until yesterday, I had not once removed my Hajib in my life while outside. I tried to do it once when I was 10 years old, and my parents grounded me for a week.

Let me tell you something right now, there are no "moderate muslims". There are no "assimilated muslims". Throughout my life, I have been to three different mosques regularly. Everyone there had some kind of animosity to America. Either they support jihadist actions outright or they refuse to condemn them, or they victim blame christians and the west. Every time theres a terrorist attack, all over the media there are reports of muslims who speak out against jihad or protest terrorists.

This is bullshit.

The last time I went to service at my mosque was right after the Brussels attack. You want to know how many of them were condemning it? 0. Not a single one. My parents over facebook (which they refuse to let me post publically to) both started complaining about Islamophobia that would sprout. Not even a faux prayer for the victims. I've been secretly watching Trump and his speeches for the last few months, and agreeing with what he says about Islam. This religion is ****** garbage. You want to know what people at my mosque say to me when I ask them about Trump or about terrorists crossing the border?
"Don't speak woman"

I have internalized this all my life and just recently I had joined a feminist group on campus where there were a surprising number of Trump supporters, who have helped me through this. While they didn't push me to take off my hajib and renounce Islam, Ive decided to do it myself. My parents have not assimilated. None of my "friends" from mosque have either. I want to be a doctor, I want to have se'x, I want to walk around town without a male chaperone. None of these things are permitted. Let me be clear, no muslim girl is wearing a hajib by choice. They know that if they're caught without one, they WILL be punished. My parents will probobly disown me when they find out, but ****** it.

The worst part is all the liberals on campus apologizing for mulims, especially the Bernie girls going around wearing Hajibs "in solidarity". Well congratulations, you are officially a conquered people of the caliphate. When liberals do this and encourage more muslims to enter the country, people at the mosques are not sighing in relief that whites aren't racist, they are giddy that they are accepting the new islamic state so easily.

Only Trump is standing up to these animals. We don't want a single one in our country. If Trump doesn't win, I will happily die the last woman not covering her head. Liberals have no idea what Islam really is.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 31 Mar 2016 17:13

Anderson Cooper of CNN asks Donald Trump if he trusts Muslims in America

Trump says "IT'S WAR"!

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 31 Mar 2016 18:32

http://www.thestatesman.com/news/latest ... 33523.html

Hmm, Modi repeats in Brussels - site of the latest ISIS outrage, his spiel that "no faith teaches terrorism" and "terrorism needs to be de-linked from any religion". Perhaps he or the RSS can take the trouble of fleshing out and formalizing their ideology on this issue, assuming they do have an intellectually thought out position on the topic.

Despite all the talk of Modi-Trump similarities, it looks like Modi would not be in agreement with Trump's proposed policy on Muslim immigration.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 01 Apr 2016 04:26

Arjun wrote: Despite all the talk of Modi-Trump similarities, it looks like Modi would not be in agreement with Trump's proposed policy on Muslim immigration.

For good reason. If you say something like that out loud you only give your detractors another stick to beat you with, while accomplishing nothing. Get elected first, and then do what you can. Something Modi understands but Trump is too stupid to. Also why he'll never get elected, unlike Modi. So much for the similarities.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Apr 2016 06:31

Arjun wrote:http://www.thestatesman.com/news/latest ... 33523.html

Hmm, Modi repeats in Brussels - site of the latest ISIS outrage, his spiel that "no faith teaches terrorism" and "terrorism needs to be de-linked from any religion". Perhaps he or the RSS can take the trouble of fleshing out and formalizing their ideology on this issue, assuming they do have an intellectually thought out position on the topic.

Despite all the talk of Modi-Trump similarities, it looks like Modi would not be in agreement with Trump's proposed policy on Muslim immigration.

one can't just say things like that in India

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Apr 2016 06:39

nachiket wrote:
Arjun wrote: Despite all the talk of Modi-Trump similarities, it looks like Modi would not be in agreement with Trump's proposed policy on Muslim immigration.
For good reason. If you say something like that out loud you only give your detractors another stick to beat you with, while accomplishing nothing. Get elected first, and then do what you can. Something Modi understands but Trump is too stupid to. Also why he'll never get elected, unlike Modi. So much for the similarities.

Trump, stupid??

he is skilfully herding his flock, more economically and far more efficiently than his opponents.

His campaign spends should tell you how much a bigger bang he is getting for his buck, not to mention, skilfully staying as the focus on prime time TV

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 01 Apr 2016 13:27

RajeshA wrote: Let me tell you something right now, there are no "moderate muslims". There are no "assimilated muslims". Throughout my life, I have been to three different mosques regularly. Everyone there had some kind of animosity to America. Either they support jihadist actions outright or they refuse to condemn them, or they victim blame christians and the west. Every time theres a terrorist attack, all over the media there are reports of muslims who speak out against jihad or protest terrorists.

This is bullshit.

The last time I went to service at my mosque was right after the Brussels attack. You want to know how many of them were condemning it? 0. Not a single one. My parents over facebook (which they refuse to let me post publically to) both started complaining about Islamophobia that would sprout. Not even a faux prayer for the victims. I've been secretly watching Trump and his speeches for the last few months, and agreeing with what he says about Islam. This religion is ****** garbage. You want to know what people at my mosque say to me when I ask them about Trump or about terrorists crossing the border?
"Don't speak woman"

Almost everything she says will be 100% applicable for Muslims around the world, including India. With 180 million brainwashed Indians we are truly effed.