Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 17 Nov 2014 14:43
by Comer
habal wrote:
It seems State Dept in cahoots with Pakis wants to cleanse Waziristan of foreign and independent talibs and then punjabi taliban can then swing freely into and out of Af-pak.
Wondering how much of this would be an effort to erase Durand Line
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 17 Nov 2014 14:46
by Peregrine
habal wrote:Operation dard-e-zamzam is producing lot of martyrs
pakis are flatenning out entire streets wherever they can and then sending in troops yet meeting casualty. Looking at any footage of dard-e-zamzam will give visuals of completely gutted buildings and streets and then an army patrol can muster courage to walk through them.
It seems State Dept in cahoots with Pakis wants to cleanse Waziristan of foreign and independent talibs and then punjabi taliban can then swing freely into and out of Af-pak.
habal Ji :
Holy Vietam, this is Déjà vu ALL OVER AGAIN!
Cheers
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 17 Nov 2014 15:53
by Gagan
The ISI has yet to assassinate its own bloody civilian head of state on foreign soil.
If they succeed, this will be a new frontier that they've conquered !!!
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 17 Nov 2014 17:27
by habal
better than learning French or German is to learn Ordu script. So that every child in India can read what these rats are thinking and writing. Go down that facebook page, you will find a brave paki kamandu resting his legs on a milestone written in Ordu 'India 465 miles'.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 17 Nov 2014 19:21
by g.sarkar
http://www.sify.com/news/hindus-to-retu ... o=obinsite
Hindus to return to Pak after PTI comes to power: Imran Khan
Islamabad: Pakistan's opposition leader Imran Khan has said that the Hindus who fled the country after being persecuted will return home if his party comes to power.
"I am hopeful that people from Hindu community, who had fled Pakistan after facing atrocities, would return when Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaaf (PTI) comes to power," he said.
Khan was addressing protesters in front of the parliament here Sunday night as part of daily routine since launching protest on August 14 seeking ouster of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.
On the forced conversions, Khan said, "I feel sorry that Hindus and Kalash communities were forced to embrace Islam which actually was against the spirit of our religion."
He said Muslims spread Islam through their good conduct and not through the use of force. ....
Gautam
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 17 Nov 2014 19:53
by Paul
This Hashwani guy fancies himself the Dhirubhai Ambani of Pakistan. Watch from 26:17. Inspite of being in trouble with the rulers of Pakistan you can sense the contempt he has for India from his brief references to India.
Incidentally he is the owner of the Mariott hotel in Islamabad and one of the wealthiest people in Pakistan.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
his greatest wish was to visit India. Two years ago, when a United Nations team visited Quetta, he demanded an audience with them. He was invited to Islamabad as a result and decided to walk there. This was how the idea of this Long March was born.
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a lot of young men and women had already gone missing. I felt that unless there is a platform for the families, no one would pay any attention to them.
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So far, we have documented 19,200 missing people and recovered 2,006 bodies.
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People are calling me a RAW [Research & Analysis Wing] agent and they think I get money from some agency. I don’t know this RAW
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The situation in these detention centres is terrible. People cannot even stretch their legs, the rooms are tiny and they are blindfolded. In some of the bodies we recovered, we found holes drilled in the legs. We get a lot of bodies with the vital organs removed.
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there are women from the Marri and Bugti tribes who are missing.
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It is the Pakistan state agencies which are doing all this. Balochistan was independent and we were forced to join Pakistan. Now, we want freedom from the Army.
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The Supreme Court has managed to do one thing only. That is to establish that it is the ISI [Inter-Services Intelligence], the Frontier Corps and the military intelligence which have picked up our young men and women. There are so many orders to produce the missing persons but no one does anything. The security forces defy the orders and it is no use.
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All along the way, except in the Punjab, lakhs of people supported us.
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people used to stop our march, get out of the car and abuse us. There was firing on us from moving vehicles and a truck dashed against two marchers injuring them. I was also threatened on the phone to stop the march. Even in Islamabad we are not safe. Even before I was leaving I got calls every day asking me to stop the march
Pakistan has clearly demonstrated hateful behavior and complete lack of accountability for Balochistan.
Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct 2014
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman, Imran Khan Monday said Information Minister Pervez Rashid levels allegations on PTI while it is Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) that has links with terrorists.
Addressing the participants of his party’s sit-in here, Imran Khan said his party is being stopped from staging a public meeting in Larkana. “What kind of democracy is this,” he asked.
The PTI chief said he would not let ‘partnership’ between Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari work.
He said the children of Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari were being prepared to hold the people in their slavery.
“Framing false cases is the hallmark of Nawaz Sharif’s democracy,” he said.
Cheers
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 03:43
by James B
Militants not dangerous to Pakistan should not be targeted: Sartaj Aziz
Adviser to the Prime Minister on National Security and Foreign Affairs, Sartaj Aziz on Monday said that Pakistan should not target militants who do not threaten the country’s security.
He further said that the Afghan Taliban are Afghanistan’s problem and Haqqani Network is a part of it.
“It’s the job of the Afghan government to negotiate with them...We can try to convince them, however things are not the same as they were in the nineties,” Aziz said.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 03:49
by A_Gupta
rgsrini wrote:^^A Quick copy to word, search and replace of the string "1999" yielded a count of 470. Even in this the pakis are covering their pakis...
July 26 Kargil conflict officially comes to an end. Indian Army announces complete eviction of Pakistani intruders.
I count 93 deaths on or after July 27, with the last one being September 20.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 04:36
by Agnimitra
In a strange, almost tongue in cheek article moist with soothing sympathy and cooing concern, Selig Harrison says that the US must understand Pakistan's compulsions, stop drone atrikes, help the Army repair its image as an Amreeki stooge, etc. But he ends by saying that the best way to help Pakistan - which is itself a victim of Islamist terror - is to help Baluchistan secede and thereby inflict defeat on the Islamist jernails and kernails, a.k.a. the Qabila Guards.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 04:54
by ramana
From description I thought Anujan wrote the article!!!
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US must understand Pakistan's compulsions, stop drone atrikes, help the Army repair its image as an Amreeki stooge, etc. But he ends by saying that the best way to help Pakistan - which is itself a victim of Islamist terror ...
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 07:25
by saip
Now it is official. There is good taliban and bad taliban!
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 08:03
by A_Gupta
^^^ RE: "militants not dangerous to Pakistan should not be targetted" let us remember Army Sharif is in the US, this may also be playing good cop, bad cop with the US. Basically "give us something if you want your enemies to be our enemies, otherwise we lose billions in fighting your enemies, and see public opinion, a.k.a. Sartaj Aziz, is against it".
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 10:34
by Anujan
“It’s the job of the Afghan government to negotiate with them...We can try to convince them, however things are not the same as they were in the nineties,” Aziz said.
Now where have I heard that before? The very same Sartaj Aziz said that Pakistan can try and convince the "mujahideen" in Kargil, but if India does not solve the Cashmere issue, they might not withdraw.
This snake in the grass is yet another face of the military. There is no difference between the army and the civilians vis-a-vis the use of terrorists to further their agenda. So far Zarb-e-zamzam was being sold as an operation against all terrorists, but obviously this fella had a slip of the tongue and let the cat out of the bag. Also carries on Paki tradition of saying one thing in the english media and a different thing in the urdu media.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
The pukis are `testing` their painted chinese missiles.
I suggest we should fire a missile every day just to have some fun.
They would be begging the chinese for more missiles in a couple of months.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 14:41
by vishvak
rgsrini wrote:^^A Quick copy to word, search and replace of the string "1999" yielded a count of 470. Even in this the pakis are covering their pakis...
Shouldn't we ask the Pakis to explain this and respond with punitive consequences of attacking Indians under cover of terrorism? Pakis should not get away with this bluffing.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Interesting article. Expounds on Wahhabism & Salafism
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 17:17
by shiv
vishvak wrote:
rgsrini wrote:^^A Quick copy to word, search and replace of the string "1999" yielded a count of 470. Even in this the pakis are covering their pakis...
Shouldn't we ask the Pakis to explain this and respond with punitive consequences of attacking Indians under cover of terrorism? Pakis should not get away with this bluffing.
No. Everyone knows its a bluff. That is why they are publishing it now. If it needs to be brought up, it should be brought up at a time when it insults them deeply - i.e wait for a time when a future bluff is revealed and say "here's one more" example.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 18:38
by rgsrini
^^BG saar, I don't understand. How could this have happened and they ended up finishing third. The only possible explanation is that they are not pious enough. They need to try harder. More Malsi please.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 20:28
by arun
James B wrote:Militants not dangerous to Pakistan should not be targeted: Sartaj Aziz
Adviser to the Prime Minister on National Security and Foreign Affairs, Sartaj Aziz on Monday said that Pakistan should not target militants who do not threaten the country’s security.
He further said that the Afghan Taliban are Afghanistan’s problem and Haqqani Network is a part of it.
“It’s the job of the Afghan government to negotiate with them...We can try to convince them, however things are not the same as they were in the nineties,” Aziz said.
The Foreign Office of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan claims that their National Security Adviser Sartaj Aziz’s comment to BBC Urdu of “Why should America’s enemies unnecessarily become our enemies”, “When the United States attacked Afghanistan, all those that were trained and armed were pushed towards us” and “Why must we make enemies out of them all?”; was made in a “historical context” :
Pakistan has successfully deradicalized thousands of Taliban jihadists using special boot camps — and now wants to try the tactic on the monstrous Islamic State, The Post has learned.
Pakistani military officials say they are confident that they can re-program the twisted minds of the head-chopping ISIS terrorists and turn them into normal, hard-working citizens.
“I believe that if we are able to harness ISIS in our rehab centers, I think it is doable,” said one Pakistani military official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
If unsuccessful he will blow himself up
Since the program began in 2009, Pakistan has reformed a whopping 2,500 Taliban warriors — most of whom were suicide bombers and mid-level troop commanders, officials said.
“We have a 99 percent success rate. [The Taliban] would have killed themselves and a lot of other people, too. We are saving a lot of lives,” another Pakistani army official, Maj. Gen. Asim Saleem Bajwa, told The Post last week in Washington, DC.
read in full if you want
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 21:33
by Prem
rgsrini wrote:^^BG saar, I don't understand. How could this have happened and they ended up finishing third. The only possible explanation is that they are not pious enough. They need to try harder. More Malsi please.
Number 1 Died millennia and half ago, Number 2 is just a manual. Pakisatan number 3 makes sense in logical sequence.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
The Pakistan Army was sitting a few miles away, twiddling its thumbs for what, 15 years? while this elaborate infrastructure was built. Now it wants to be given credit for clearing it up
And why not. The Americans are already patting their heads saying good dog and will be doing dollarabhishekam soon
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Pakistan has successfully deradicalized thousands of Taliban jihadists using special boot camps — and now wants to try the tactic on the monstrous Islamic State, The Post has learned.
Pakistani military officials say they are confident that they can re-program the twisted minds of the head-chopping ISIS terrorists and turn them into normal, hard-working citizens.
Then why all the drama behind Zarb-e-Zamzam and the aerial bombing?
Are the uniformed jihadis needing to recruit imported mujahadeen jihadis for solving core issue?
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 22:50
by vishvak
Our media won't say how zarb-e-zamzam can happen in pakistan when it is already purelands - root causes. The pseudos are covering up again when begging bowl of pakis has come out again.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 23:15
by Anujan
Well
For so long they tolerated everyone as long as they attacked NATO. even the ones that set off a few in Lahore or Karachi. Now they want better control and Sarkar approved brands. Hence the big show.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 18 Nov 2014 23:36
by Agnimitra
ramana wrote:From description I thought Anujan wrote the article!!!
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US must understand Pakistan's compulsions, stop drone atrikes, help the Army repair its image as an Amreeki stooge, etc. But he ends by saying that the best way to help Pakistan - which is itself a victim of Islamist terror ...
Selig Harrison also says that the good alternative to Islamist Qabila Guards in Sindh are the hundreds of Sufi centers. Does he mean the same large and powerful Sufi centers that have pioneered the abductions of Hindu girls for the past 15 years, even publishing proud statistics of how many such "marriages" their Sufi brotherhood has facilitated?
But I forgive Selig, because all's well that ends well. His farticle ended by saying that the best gift to the Bakistani awaam is to relieve them of the burden of Baluchistan.
