Mumbai Terrorist Attack-News stories and timeline

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Apr 2011 19:41

26/11 was a unforgivable tragedy but it's victims were no martyrs. They were there there by accident & not by choice 4 a cause.

http://twitter.com/sonaliranade/statuse ... 8570700802

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Apr 2011 22:16

Who is she to decide their status?

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 05 Apr 2011 22:48

What a stupid person... These are the type of people who are in the media - they think they know it all and they think they are the judge. You won't believe some of the opinions that they have.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Apr 2011 23:02

Who is she to decide their status?

WKKish Aisha(if you saw the latest B'wood flick).

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Apr 2011 23:10

Which one?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Apr 2011 23:35

"Aisha"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha_(film)

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 09 Apr 2011 15:41

26/11 trial: Pak court adjourns case till April 16

See here for a chronology of court drama in Pakistan

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 10 Apr 2011 08:54

abhishek_sharma wrote:26/11 trial: Pak court adjourns case till April 16

From the above,

Prosecution lawyer Chaudhry Zulfiqar, who appeared for the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA), sought an adjournment, saying another prosecutor, Chaudhry Azhar, would present arguments on the matter at the next hearing.

We have to realize that the trial per se hasn't even started. The case is still in pre-trial stage.

ManuT · Post by **ManuT** » 11 Apr 2011 19:23

A Pakistani intelligence official says Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha was headed on Monday to the US, where he was expected to meet with the CIA chief.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/04/11/pakistan ... sions.html

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Apr 2011 01:20

American Straight Talking: Listen to the lady on the skype link. She says "No matter what the truth is, we are are constrained by geopolitical realities".

http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4370257.cms

http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4370257.cms

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 13 Apr 2011 01:26

Watched it live, that skank is Christine Fair who also said that India should not overreact or something of that sort when Arnab pointed out that 26/11 was one of the biggest act of crimes in recent Human history, to which Arnab shot "then we should say US is also hyper ventilating on 9/11?". Thumbs up to Arnab Goswami for the debate. Also watch that Paki Guy (Hilali) come up with usual deff n dumb bull on evil Indian hospitals in Afghanistan doing evil activities.

Parthasarthy as usual tears another one in the Paki with his now ritualistic mention of the Pakistani 'begging bowl for Arms and Alms'.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 13 Apr 2011 01:56

This Christina Fair is openly hostile to meek SDRE's...she is downright condescending and even accused Arnab of putting specious arguments..

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 13 Apr 2011 01:56

Chandragupta wrote:Watched it live, that skank is Christine Fair who also said that India should not overreact or something of that sort when Arnab pointed out that 26/11 was one of the biggest act of crimes in recent Human history, to which Arnab shot "then we should say US is also hyper ventilating on 9/11?". Thumbs up to Arnab Goswami for the debate. Also watch that Paki Guy (Hilali) come up with usual deff n dumb bull on evil Indian hospitals in Afghanistan doing evil activities. Parthasarthy as usual tears another one in the Paki with his now ritualistic mention of the Pakistani 'begging bowl for Arms and Alms'.

Christine Fair comes across as a very immature and insecure creature, Hilaly is of course a well-known Paki.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 13 Apr 2011 03:33

I'll watch the videos later tonight, but what was Fai's reaction to Arnab's "then we should say US is also hyper ventilating on 9/11?" straight drive?

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 13 Apr 2011 03:37

CRamS wrote:I'll watch the videos later tonight, but what was Fai's reaction to Arnab's "then we should say US is also hyper ventilating on 9/11?" straight drive?

you are unprofessional blah blah blah, very hostile and personal. Neither the Paki nor la Fair showed any respect for the format or the host, just blathered on and on irrelevantly and repetitiously. Both behaved like arrogant savages; the Indians were much more relaxed, respectful and to the point.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 13 Apr 2011 04:11

KLNMurthy wrote:
CRamS wrote:I'll watch the videos later tonight, but what was Fai's reaction to Arnab's "then we should say US is also hyper ventilating on 9/11?" straight drive?
you are unprofessional blah blah blah, very hostile and personal. Neither the Paki nor la Fair showed any respect for the format or the host, just blathered on and on irrelevantly and repetitiously. Both behaved like arrogant savages; the Indians were much more relaxed, respectful and to the point.

Its good that the wiliest of Pacques and the most condescending of the Amreekis get all rilled up on Indian TV. The more the better. It will wake up the SDRE's from their slumber. Unfortunately.. idiots like Afridi and pure pacquis like Hilaly are our only defense against the Dhoti's like MMS. Just imagine if Afridi didnot have his Paki moment... Post Mohali Pappi-Jappi would have reached to new heights.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 13 Apr 2011 04:45

Frankly, Arnab is not a very sauve/ savvy moderator, his heart might be in the right place though. We are still sometime away before we do have experts that have a hold on strategic equations and handle that trash with more finesse. To be fair to Fair, she did at one point refute Arnab well when she stated that the Davis affair was something about US transgressing the red line on investigating the LeT. Before it was speculated here only that RD was investigating into the Mumbai thing and ISI-LeT links. That was the red line for the ISI. It has'nt IIRC been as openly acknowledged as Fair did here. But that sort of did'nt strike Arnab. He could've leeched fair for more info on that, but he was busy trying to interrupt..which he does all too often. Actually most Indian TV mods do so i notice.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 13 Apr 2011 05:25

harbans wrote:Frankly, Arnab is not a very sauve/ savvy moderator, his heart might be in the right place though. We are still sometime away before we do have experts that have a hold on strategic equations and handle that trash with more finesse. To be fair to Fair, she did at one point refute Arnab well when she stated that the Davis affair was something about US transgressing the red line on investigating the LeT. Before it was speculated here only that RD was investigating into the Mumbai thing and ISI-LeT links. That was the red line for the ISI. It has'nt IIRC been as openly acknowledged as Fair did here. But that sort of did'nt strike Arnab. He could've leeched fair for more info on that, but he was busy trying to interrupt..which he does all too often. Actually most Indian TV mods do so i notice.

Arnab looks like a meek SDRE version of Chris Matthews on MSNBC in the US as far as the interrupting and the opinionation goes. I haven't seen any really intelligent, attentive interviewers on my limited exposure to Indian TV who can draw out their guests like say Charlie Rose.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 14 Apr 2011 08:44

NO CRICKET WITH PAKISTAN

WHY SHOULD INDIAN SPORTSMEN RESCUE PAKISTAN'S REPUTATION?

i can never forgive this

http://www.youtube.com/cybersurg#p/u/30/QehgTIOmkmQ

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 15 Apr 2011 08:01

26/11: ‘No decision on Pak panel visit’

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 15 Apr 2011 08:29

abhishek_sharma wrote:26/11: ‘No decision on Pak panel visit’

The Prosecution (which is the Pakistani Army in this instance) and the Defence (which is also the Pakistani Army in this instance) are jointly and severally playing the game here. The request to send the panel itself was a drama. If India said 'no', that would be used to close the case and blame India. If India said 'yes', other impossible demands would be made on them until they would be compelled to say 'no'.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Apr 2011 04:45

Ensure Pak panel meets 26/11 judge: Centre tells Mumbai HC

With a commission from Pakistan expected to arrive India next month in connection with the Mumbai attack trial in Rawalpindi, the Centre has requested the Bombay high court to ensure that the judge who conducted the 26/11 trial is available during the period of the panel's visit.

The Union home ministry has written to HC that additional chief metropolitan magistrate R V Sawant Wag-hule and investigating officer of the case, Ramesh Mahale, should be available for questioning by the Pakistani judicial commission which will arrive India by May 15.

As part of the judicial process of the 26/11 case in Pakistan, the commission wants to visit India to take the statements of Waghule, who recorded Mumbai attack convict Ajmal Kasab's confessional statement, Mahale and the doctor who carried out the postmortem of the terrorists.

The delegation wants to interview key witnesses in connection with the trial of seven Pakistani suspects, currently in a jail in that country, in the 26/11 Mumbai attack case. Pakistan's contention is that the charges against the seven Lashkar-e-Taiba activists, including its operations commander Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, are based on Kasab's statement in Mumbai and hence the magistrate and the IO's statements are necessary for submission before the anti-terror court there.

India has already provided to Pakistan copies of Kasab's confessional statement that was recorded in Hindi and Marathi in the presence of Waghule. An English version is also available with Pakistan.

India has agreed to Pakistan's proposal to receive the commission at the home secretary-level talks held here last month. Pakistan too had agreed to allow an Indian commission to visit that country in connection with Mumbai terror attack case.

"Pakistan conveyed its readiness...based upon the principle of comity and reciprocity, to entertain a commission from India with respect to Mumbai terror attack investigations. Modalities will be worked out," the statement after the meeting of home secretaries said.

anjan · Post by **anjan** » 16 Apr 2011 05:18

harbans wrote:Frankly, Arnab is not a very sauve/ savvy moderator, his heart might be in the right place though.

Would you rather have burkha dutt falling over herself instead? Why the need to score goals against people who are atleast half way inclined to a more Indian POV and are willing to go up on TV and express it? There are people enough flinging brickbats at him for being mean to pakis. Not sure how all the criticism from this side as well is supposed to encourage more of the media to do the same. Or are you perchance volunteering to go up on TV yourself?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 17 Apr 2011 12:27

X posted
Since we are discussing Christine Fair, this is a set of videos within a few days of the Mumbai Attacks.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbJ-G8TmprA
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ysqhqD4gk
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BgEd2AlsHU

Shiv saar, in part 1 she says that the Jewish hostages in Chabad House were Raped by the terrorists.
Her analysis seems to be on the dot I would say.
And she does a downhill ski on her earlier statement about this being NOT Al Qaida or LET.
And the saffron-string-on-the-hands theory of the pakistanis is discussed and dismissed.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 17 Apr 2011 14:45

Gagan wrote:. . . in part 1 she says that the Jewish hostages in Chabad House were Raped by the terrorists.

Gagan, thanks for posting.

She quotes an anonymous, well-informed Indian journalist for that.

The other point is she was lying about Pakistan moving its troops from the West to the East in 2001 after India's military mobilization following the Parliament attack. She claims that it was because of that the Al Qaeda and the Taliban were able to escape Afghanistan into FATA. This is untrue.

Having been caught by her initial denial of LeT's involvement, she repeatedly argues why she initially thought so. Her arguments lack logic.

But, I liked one statement she made, though. She said that today Pakistan's paranoia wouldn't stop even if Kashmir were settled.

She is undoubtedly another Uneven.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 17 Apr 2011 16:51

ATC hearing adjourned to April 23 as prosecution lawyer fails to appear

The Rawalpindi Anti Terrorism Court (ATC) number 3 on Saturday adjourned the hearing of the Mumbai attacks case until April 23, as the prosecution lawyer did not appear before the court. However, the other prosecution lawyer of the FIA, Chaudhry Zulfiqar, tendered an application in the court mentioning that Khawaja Sultan was not the counsel for Ajmal Kasab, the sole survivor of the Mumbai attacks, so he could not contest his case. During the proceedings, which were held at Adiala Jail, the ATC-3 Judge, Rana Nisar Ahmed Khan, postponed the hearing until April 23. Defence lawyer, Shahbaz Ahmed Rajput, while talking to Daily Times, said that the prosecution was wasting time by tendering a new application on every date of hearing. He said that it seemed that the prosecution had no solid evidence, which it could present, before the court. He said the trial had been going on for the last two years, but charges could not be framed so far.{But, charges were framed on November 25, 2009 ! Even one witness was examined later. It is true that it has not proceeded any further due to procedural wrangles. Because of the in-camera trial and strict censorship of the trial, the outside world just does not know what is happening. That gives an easy cloak for the Pakistani ministers to lie to their Indian counterparts. This trial is going absolutely nowhere and India is being taken for a grand and royal ride}

See here for a chronology of court drama in Pakistan

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 22 Apr 2011 06:58

26/11: Letter Rogatory to Pak

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Apr 2011 12:31

abhishek_sharma wrote:26/11: Letter Rogatory to Pak

While issuing the LR {Letter Rogatory}, the court also instructed the NIA to carry out investigations related to JuD chief Hafiz Saeed and Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi. A red corner notice has already been issued against the two.

That's it. Now, this LR will go nowhere.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Apr 2011 08:38

ISI not involved in 26/11: Rehman Malik

Pakistan's Interior Minister Rehman Malik on Friday categorically stated that the Inter-Services Intelligence was not involved in the Mumbai terror attack. Mr. Malik made these remarks while interacting with an Indian media delegation that is visiting the country on the invitation of the Pakistan government.

As for the progress in the Mumbai terror case that is going on in Pakistan, he said there was enough evidence but the courts had to go through a process that could be time-consuming.

I think it is for the first time that Pakistan has accepted there was enough evidence.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 23 Apr 2011 12:00

Question is evidence of what because apparently, according to him. ISI was not involved.

Nothing will work with these people. The country as it exists must be dismembered and undone at all levels, geographically, militarily, ideologically, and a new religious operating system must be introduced.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Apr 2011 13:13

JE Menon wrote: . . . a new religious operating system must be introduced.

R/OS V2 Rel 0. Ver 1 is the root cause of all problems; patches haven't worked.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 23 Apr 2011 18:01

And it won't. I'm still in two minds as to whether we must kill the OS or let it survive (and indeed keep challenging it so it fights to survive

) just so that its users remain non-competitive in the increasingly distributed and open source world... I mean who needs additional competition?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 24 Apr 2011 08:11

Format the system, and partition the hard disk.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Apr 2011 08:27

Pakistan Army's Comments on 26/11 and the on-going court case

Major General Abbas said it was not lack of intent but absence of capacity — particularly in the judicial system — that was delaying progress in the Mumbai terror attack case. To drive the point home, he said no action had been taken yet against the would-be assassins of former President Pervez Musharraf either.

As to why Pakistan had not conducted operations against terrorists targeting India, he said the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), a banned organisation, had been contained. {Forget about the questionable contention of 'containment', the LeT needs to be eliminated}

“We do not have information of its worldwide aspirations or links to the bombing of the Indian Embassy in Kabul.” Pakistan was trying, he said, to contain groups instead of entering into open confrontation with too many of them simultaneously.

Asserting that no ISI official was involved in the Mumbai attacks, Major General Abbas sought to counter the allegations of the agency's continuing links with terrorist groups by pointing out that the Army and the ISI themselves had come under attack.{But, that was from the Taliban, not the LeT. 26/11 is about the PA, PN, ISI and the LeT.}

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 26 Apr 2011 05:31

I did not see this news posted anywhere else on the forum :

Four new indictments in Chicago court :

Four Pakistanis have been charged as co-conspirators in the 2008 Mumbai attack that killed 166 people, including six Americans, US prosecutors said on Monday.

The four were previously mentioned, but not named, in indictments charging American David Headley and Pakistani-born Chicago businessman Tahawwur Rana with helping to identify targets in Mumbai.

Headley and Rana have also been charged in a plot to attack a Danish newspaper that was never carried out.

Headley pleaded guilty in March 2010 and is cooperating with US investigators about taking several trips to India —and later to Denmark —to scout targets for the coordinated and lethal assault.

Rana has been held since his arrest in 2009 as a conspirator with Headley, and his US trial is scheduled to begin May 16. His attorney was not immediately available for comment.

All of the four newly-indicted figures are linked to the Lashkar-e-Taiba. The group is blamed for the November 2008 attacks on Mumbai, which killed 166 people in India’s commercial capital.

Those newly indicted were Sajid Mir, Abu Qahafa, Mazhar Iqbal, and a fourth defendant known only by the alias “Major Iqbal.”

None are in US custody. All four are believed to be in Pakistan.They were charged with six counts of aiding and abetting the murder of US citizens and other charges related to the Mumbai attack and providing support to Lashkar, identified as a terrorist organisation by the United States.

Mir was also charged in the plot against Denmark’s Jyllands-Posten newspaper aiming to revenge the publication of cartoons of the prophet Mohammad that enraged many Muslims and prompted protests.

US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald in Chicago had requested the superseding indictment handed up by a grand jury on April 21 charging the four to be sealed to give the government time to alert US agencies and consult with foreign authorities.
( What exactly is their intention here ? Alert whom and why ?

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 26 Apr 2011 05:35

Something has changed in the last few weeks. First, the hasty departure of Shuja Pasha from DC, then the comments by Mullen and now for the first time ,ISI admits the so called 'non-state actors' were not exactly without a state sponsorship!

ISLAMABAD: Military spokesman Maj-Gen Athar Abbas has hinted at involvement of retired ISI officials in the 2008 Mumbai attacks, but categorically denied any role of serving spies.

The ISPR chief, in his interaction with the visiting delegation of Indian journalists and in an interview with CNN-IBN, indicated the possibility of some retired officials collaborating with Mumbai perpetrators.

This is probably the first time that Pakistan military has suggested possible links between retired ISI men and Lashkar-e-Taiba, though India had in the past accused serving officials of being involved.

Maj-Gen Abbas described the group responsible for the attacks as a splinter group of LeT headed by Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, who is being tried by an anti-terrorism court in Rawalpindi.

He denied ISI had any links with the Haqqani Network â€“ an accusation made by Chairman US Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Michael Mullen during his visit to Islamabad last week.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Apr 2011 06:14

More dramabazi.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Apr 2011 07:17

Yes, just a drama. How can it be a splinter group when Professor Hafeez Saeed saheb himself was completely involved in training, motivating and picking the team for the 26/11 attack ? Mathematically, the whole LeT can be considered as a splinter group of LeT with a splinter ratio of 100%.

ISI officers (except for the top brass) are almost always shown as not serving in the Army or Retired for reasons of 'plausible deniability'.

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Apr 2011 07:57

Ambar wrote:I did not see this news posted anywhere else on the forum :

Four new indictments in Chicago court :

Four Pakistanis have been charged as co-conspirators in the 2008 Mumbai attack that killed 166 people, including six Americans, US prosecutors said on Monday.

The four were previously mentioned, but not named, in indictments charging American David Headley and Pakistani-born Chicago businessman Tahawwur Rana with helping to identify targets in Mumbai. {Snipped} ..........................

The Court document dealing with the fresh indictment of 4 citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan namely Mazhar Iqbal, Abu Qahafa, "Major Iqbal" and Sajid Mir for the 26/11 Islamic Terrorist attack of Mumbai is here;

Second Superceding Indictment

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 26 Apr 2011 08:25

SSridhar wrote: Mathematically, the whole LeT can be considered as a splinter group of LeT with a splinter ratio of 100%.