Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 03, 2010

James B · Post by **James B** » 02 Oct 2010 16:05

The government dissolved the Pakistan Electric Power Company on Friday and increased electricity tariff by two per cent for all types of consumers across the country as a first step towards wide-ranging reforms aimed at turning around the power sector whose annual losses have reached Rs226 billion.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 02 Oct 2010 16:06

^^^is it just me or don;t they look separated at birth? asif's visibily tfta (no, don't ask me how I know about the ta part, just hazarding a guess is all) looks quite much like a certain Bangla beauty Ms Rupa Ganguly - of 'draupadi' fame in the mahabharat serial.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 02 Oct 2010 17:08

Hari Seldon wrote:^^^is it just me or don;t they look separated at birth? asif's visibily tfta (no, don't ask me how I know about the ta part, just hazarding a guess is all) looks quite much like a certain Bangla beauty Ms Rupa Ganguly - of 'draupadi' fame in the mahabharat serial.

I fear for their kids.

archan · Post by **archan** » 02 Oct 2010 17:20

I dunno, she looks more mardana to me than him.

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 02 Oct 2010 17:26

^^He looks like a Snake Charmer...

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 02 Oct 2010 17:42

Ya Allah! I see that the bride and the groom have dressed up in 400% traditional Islamic outfits. Bride is wearing mehndi all the way upto her elbows. Mangalsutra is so pretty, no? Guests in the background are surely wearing colorful burqas.

All I want to know is who was the purohit at this pious Sharia/Hadith compliant union? These are the faith-fools who pray on the cricket pitch! Allah is most (dis)pleased!

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 02 Oct 2010 17:59

How to write about Pakistan.
http://www.granta.com/Online-Only/How-t ... t-Pakistan

When it comes to Pakistani writing, I would encourage us all to remember the brand. We are custodians of brand Pakistan. And beneficiaries. The brand slaps an extra zero onto our advances, if not more. Branding can be the difference between a novel about brown people and a best-selling novel about brown people. It is our duty to maintain and build that brand.

I know I don’t need to reiterate here what brand Pakistan stands for, but since my future income-stream is tied up with what you all do with it, I’m going to do so anyway. Brand Pakistan is a horror brand. It’s like the Friday the 13th series. Or if you’re into humor, like Scary Movie. Or Jaws, if nature-writing is your thing.

Anyway, the point is that people from all over the world have come to know and love brand Pakistan for its ability to scare the shit out of them. Whatever you write, please respect this legacy. We’re providing a service here. We’re a twenty-storey straight-down vertical-dropping roller coaster for the mind. Yes, love etcetera is permissible. But bear in mind that Pakistan is a market-leader. The Most Dangerous Place in the WorldTM.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 02 Oct 2010 18:06

She is a temporary wife. The Taliban are coming! Soon she will be wearing shuttle-cock burqas in North Waziristan.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 02 Oct 2010 18:10

kvraghav wrote:^^He looks like a Snake Charmer...

Tongue in cheek humour of BRFites..tsk tsk.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 02 Oct 2010 18:24

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... yers-fa-02

SLAMABAD: Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry on Saturday took suo moto notice of an incident of Friday which occurred on the premises of District Courts (Aiwan-e-Adl), Lahore, in which reportedly police brutally beat up lawyers.

praksam · Post by **praksam** » 02 Oct 2010 18:39

Finally, the cat is outta the basket.Son comes to the aid of motherland.
Bin Laden repeats call for Pakistan flood aid: monitors

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Laden ... z11Cy2O5G5

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Oct 2010 18:55

Lots of activity by the National Bird of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan today:

3 U.S. drone strikes kill 18 in Pakistan

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 02 Oct 2010 19:35

Demo against former Pakistan leader

More pious demonstrating against mosque destroyer and killer of pious muslims. AoA. If there are demonstrations against mushy in Ukistan, then expect presents like sun roof lever in Bakistan for him. IMO, mushy is now become "dhobi ka kutta."

Adder later

Musharraf must return to Pak to earn masses' wrath: Shahbaz

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 02 Oct 2010 20:00

Pakistan army says 'extra-judicial killing' video faked - BBC

The individual who sent it to the BBC said many people in the Swat valley had the clip on their phones.

However journalists in Swat have told the BBC that the first they heard of the video was when it was reported in the New York Times two days ago.

"We have previously documented executions in Swat that are similar to what is depicted in this video," Ali Dayan Hasan, representative of Human Rights Watch in Pakistan told the BBC.

"Human Rights Watch cannot say anything about the authenticity of the video."

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 02 Oct 2010 20:25

kmkraoind wrote:Pakistan army says 'extra-judicial killing' video faked - BBC

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I did not comment on the likely authenticity of this video because experts have already done so.

Fact is you can fake everything - but the last scene where the boys are groaning on the ground and one Pakistan army man shoots them is definitely not fake. The puff of smoke from the rifle, the twitch of the body and puff of dust from bullet passing through the body are almost instantaneous and consistent with a real shooting.

The Pakistan are lying as usual. Pakistanis are lying bustards. I am going to write a commentary on that video and put it up separately.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 02 Oct 2010 20:49

^^^ Shiv look carefully between seconds 11 and 12 of the video at the sky. IMO, a large edifice shows briefly (instead of the usual over exposure of the sky). This is IMO, no forest.

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 02 Oct 2010 21:00

Posted?

US archives from post 9/11 dealings with Pak

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 02 Oct 2010 21:04

A Pakistani ex-army guy, who usually lies through his teeth to defend TSPA in an email circle I'm on, admitted that this video is likely real. He also said that the building was actually the Swat district circuit house near Mingora. He also noted that any bigshot general visiting the area stayed in the circuit house.

BajKhedawal · Post by **BajKhedawal** » 02 Oct 2010 21:26

[quote="anupmisra"]Marvi!!

Marvi moves SC against Sindh dyke breachesI didn't know paki dykes wore breaches.

It is advisable to wear breaches if you are riding bareback, which i suppose dykes generally do, no?

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 02 Oct 2010 21:30

which little boy put his finger in the sindhi dyke?

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 02 Oct 2010 21:43

It wasn't a finger.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 02 Oct 2010 21:56

kmkraoind wrote:Pakistan army says 'extra-judicial killing' video faked - BBC

I am guessing the Beeb won't report this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/01/world ... hawar.html

At the same time, Pakistani officials tried to contain the damage from a video that came to the attention of American officials in recent days showing the execution of six young men, bound and blindfolded, by Pakistani Army soldiers.

Responding to questions from American officials, Pakistani officials acknowledged Thursday that the video had not been faked, as they had first contended, an American official said, and that they had identified the soldiers and would take appropriate measures.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 03 Oct 2010 01:33

There is some irony here. If these people were killed in a drone attack, we wouldn't think twice. If the video from the drone is released showing its missile strike, we might look at it once. The Pakistani army's firing squad, however, raises our ire. Death by remote control is so much more antiseptic.

archan · Post by **archan** » 03 Oct 2010 01:36

A_Gupta wrote:There is some irony here. If these people were killed in a drone attack, we wouldn't think twice. If the video from the drone is released showing its missile strike, we might look at it once. The Pakistani army's firing squad, however, raises our ire. Death by remote control is so much more antiseptic.

I am sorry, but I think you miss the point. Never mind.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 03 Oct 2010 01:40

They keep going to Jinnah again and again.
They have no connection to the ideals of the Jinnah at all.
They use Jinnah photo but they want a practical wahhabi state and terrorism against all non muslims in the continent.

But the British wanted the largest Islamic state in the continent.
They were willing to fool as many people as possible

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 03 Oct 2010 01:43

What ideals of the Jinnah?

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 03 Oct 2010 01:44

Nandu wrote:What ideals of the Jinnah?

Face photo and modern life

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 03 Oct 2010 01:55

jrjrao wrote:Just another routine rant in the Paki earth-e-shaster:
The new development in Muslim majority Andaman and Nicobar Command (ANC) on which Pakistan has its claim .

archan wrote: Why don't pakis have claim on Muslim majority Bangladesh?

shiv wrote: Xinjiang?

I strongly recommend Pakis make a claim on muslim-majority nations like KSA, UK and USA (Yesu is a prophet mentioned in the book) as they would bring lot of oil, money, and arms to Pakistan. What would a poor Bangladesh or Xinjiang or AN island can be of value to Pakis?

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 03 Oct 2010 02:15

archan wrote:I dunno, she looks more mardana to me than him.

He looks visibly dazed and unhappy. Pakistan has yet another first: First gay stoner groom.....

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 03 Oct 2010 02:19

hnair wrote:
archan wrote:I dunno, she looks more mardana to me than him.
He looks visibly dazed and unhappy. Pakistan has yet another first: First gay stoner groom.....

He will cheer up when he sees the sh-trap-on in dahej!

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 03 Oct 2010 02:47

Guys...unkil has changed its stripes...dronacharya is now working 24X7, with multiple droppings a day, helis crossed the paki border in hot chase multiple times on a single day, killed a few pakis...etc. This means that the end game is near and unkil has turned the heat on pakis. Unkil's frustration is rising. How will the pakis respond ?. H&D was saved by blocking US goods transport, but they cannot delay those more than a few days. Pakis will not attack Haqqani group, as that would be suicide. I think the only option open to pakis is to create a diversion, alas sailaab is no more...India shining beckons, CWG beckons...

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 03 Oct 2010 02:49

Guddu wrote:Guys...unkil has changed its stripes...dronacharya is now working 24X7, with multiple droppings a day, helis crossed the paki border in hot chase multiple times on a single day, killed a few pakis...etc.

Is it because of the visit

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 03 Oct 2010 02:59

I am amazed that people are equating Dronacharya with the genocidal Paki army. Collateral damage caused by Dronacharya should evoke the same emotions as summary execution of under age boys by the genocidal Paki army! AOA!

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 03 Oct 2010 03:10

Prem wrote:http://green.blogs.nBin Laden Laments Climate Changeytimes.com/2010/10/01/bin-laden-laments-climate-change/
Bin Laden Laments Climate Change
The huge climate change is affecting our nation and is causing great catastrophes throughout the Islamic world,” the tape continues. It says the challenge “calls for generous souls and brave men to take serious and prompt action to provide relief for their Muslim brothers in Pakistan.”If verified, the recording would not be the first in which Mr. bin Laden has remarked on global warming. In an audiotape obtained by Al Jazeera in January, the Al Qaeda leader dedicated virtually an entire speech to the subject and laid particular blame on former President George W. Bush for failing to curb greenhouse gas emissions. “All the industrial states” are to blame for climate change, he said then. “Yet the majority of those states have signed the Kyoto Protocol and agreed to curb the emission of harmful gases.”

These statements from OBL are very unusual. I suspect that OBL is now being advised by british jihadis from londonistan fed on a diet of global warming and climate change. Perhaps this is an attempt to bring OBL out from the cold and aligned with western liberal values.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 03 Oct 2010 03:21

Mahendra wrote:I am amazed that people are equating Dronacharya with the genocidal Paki army. Collateral damage caused by Dronacharya should evoke the same emotions as summary execution of under age boys by the genocidal Paki army! AOA!

Not people. Me. Oh, I understand fully. Just sometimes try to stand back and view the world through total detachment. The people the Pakistani army is killing are jihadis and their relatives who are out of control of the army. The people the drones are killing are jihadis and their relatives who are controlled by or allied with the Pakistani army - which is why the Americans have to hit them. (If Pakistanis would take care of them there would be no drone attacks.) That makes some difference, yes, but not a whole lot Either set of people who were killed would probably not hesitate to blast away SDRE kafirs if given the opportunity. As to teenagers - there have been some few deadly teenage jihadis. E.g., the January suicide bombing of a village volleyball match in Lakki Marwat, Pakistan that killed about 100 people was done by a teenager. Teenage does not correspond to innocent or to child.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 03 Oct 2010 03:34

Gupta ji, i agree the comparison is apt food for thought. Somehow the rules of remote detonation don't apply to face to face executions. They thus indeed are more 'antiseptic'. It gave me some food for thought and there is only one difference i can think of as yet. A remote detonation on teenage or other JIhadi's (and yes a large percent JIhadi's are teenage types) is different because it targets locations where such are based and out of reach.

Soldiers executing summarily blindfolded ones can do so for reasons other than they being real Jihadi's. Like has been reported in SWAT etc. Paki soldiers killing those that were resisting Jihad or the differntiating between good and bad taliban.. We hardly know who really the Paki army soldiers were killing. Paki's seldom kill real terrorists.

Another point in this context, is a breach of known convention. Drones attack targets they cannot reach. Once you've reached a bunch of terrorists and got them blindfolded and stuff..summary executions are not the norm. Even the US has an island exclusively for those. Even India had and has die heard ones lodged all over the place.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 03 Oct 2010 05:34

Guddu wrote:
Prem wrote:http://green.blogs.nBin Laden Laments Climate Changeytimes.com/2010/10/01/bin-laden-laments-climate-change/
Bin Laden Laments Climate Change

the next statement might cover match fixing and other irregularities in sports...

oh by the way the day he took up terrorism for islamic cause, he endeared himself to many liberals, western or otherwise...so no further effort required.

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 03 Oct 2010 06:02

harbans wrote:Drones attack targets they cannot reach. Once you've reached a bunch of terrorists and got them blindfolded and stuff..summary executions are not the norm. Even the US has an island exclusively for those. Even India had and has die heard ones lodged all over the place.

Well said.

Drone attacks by the US can't even be compared to the artillery barrages and mortar shelling by the Paki army against entire villages of Pashtunistan. The former are precision attacks while the latter are designed to massacre and terrorize the whole population.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 03 Oct 2010 06:43

A_Gupta wrote:There is some irony here. If these people were killed in a drone attack, we wouldn't think twice. If the video from the drone is released showing its missile strike, we might look at it once. The Pakistani army's firing squad, however, raises our ire. Death by remote control is so much more antiseptic.

Yes I think it is. I recall that my cousin late Wingco Suresh told me in 1972 - soon after the 1971 war that he felt sorry for the infantrymen who had to be in the thick of battle. While everyone who experiences combat is "in the thick of battle" - Suresh told me of how he could go back to the mess soon after battle and have a good breakfast. The feeling of shooting up tanks (in Longewala) was impersonal until he saw a Paki whose clothes were fully on fire from head to toe jump out of a truck and run soon after he had shot it up. Droneacharya is even more impersonal.

Having said that it is a philosophical point of history that deaths caused by an egregious enemy must be utilised to create the grievance for revenge.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 03 Oct 2010 07:51

A_Gupta wrote:
Mahendra wrote:I am amazed that people are equating Dronacharya with the genocidal Paki army. Collateral damage caused by Dronacharya should evoke the same emotions as summary execution of under age boys by the genocidal Paki army! AOA!
Not people. Me. Oh, I understand fully. Just sometimes try to stand back and view the world through total detachment. The people the Pakistani army is killing are jihadis and their relatives who are out of control of the army. The people the drones are killing are jihadis and their relatives who are controlled by or allied with the Pakistani army - which is why the Americans have to hit them. (If Pakistanis would take care of them there would be no drone attacks.) That makes some difference, yes, but not a whole lot Either set of people who were killed would probably not hesitate to blast away SDRE kafirs if given the opportunity. As to teenagers - there have been some few deadly teenage jihadis. E.g., the January suicide bombing of a village volleyball match in Lakki Marwat, Pakistan that killed about 100 people was done by a teenager. Teenage does not correspond to innocent or to child.

My Fellow Comerade Mian Mahendra, I am with A_Gupta-saar

Americans are using drones because they are cost effective in killing people. A very mercantile way to deal death to others.

They have two options with precedents:
1) Let them painstakingly go deep into Pakistan in a public manner and deal with these people in a more precise and less error prone fashion. They already did this in Afghanistan

2) Let them sew up the border. Then put more troops in Afghan to form terror action grids and patrol day and night. India did this with remarkable success and with better chances of civic stabilization than this charade.

Successive American Presidents since Truman has done such "cost effective" mass genocide after advice from their military chiefs or soulless morons in the state dept. Why should we let either pakis or the americans go so easily off the hook on their actions, even if against each other? We heard enough crap lectures.