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Re: PRC Economy - New Reflections : Dec 15 2011

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wong wrote:
VikramS wrote:wong:

You seriously think that an article by Aakar Patel will help you sway the opinion here? Reminds of a time when another drone posted an article by Arundhati Roy of all people...

As per sha, the per post price has gone up to $10. At least do some homework about the author before posting; justify the wage increase by adding some value.
There is no swaying the mindless "Incredible India" crackheads here. People who would rather believe in stupid Internet conspiracy theories than actually disputing the many good points raised in the article. I'm just glad Hong Kong is Hong Kong thanks to British laws and Chinese smarts. Everyone here can can at least agree on one thing though, I too am very glad the British left India six decades ago.

BTW for all you "50 Center" conspiracy nuts, there are no "Wong's" from the PRC mainland. Not one. Figure it out.
You took the name "WONG" to hide "WANG". For you it may be sophisticated HONG KONG name, for us ignorant Indians it is same. Seriously call whatever you want ; you are same "50 Center for us.
Your job tells us what you are. Secondly 50 center is very well documented phenomena. China can block the term on Internet inside China but out there in free world things are different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party


Does the term wǎng píng yuán reminds you something :rotfl: :rotfl: . It means Ape who comments on Internet :((
Please do not be angry...........I was told of this by a guy who came flom Hong Kong (Mr Lee) :mrgreen:
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this dhaga is also lost i fear. good riddance, perhaps.
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poor Chinese postors, they come to the PRC econ and PRC mil threads to gloat at sdre and dang it they can't even lord over sdre. They can't gloat at western forums either. And I guess there is only so much circle jerk you can do at internal forums...
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The reason for Wang/Wong's slick explanations is that BRF is completely banned from the mainland. So said 50 center needs a cover story on where he is posting from. In typically blundering bureaucrat fashion he drops it in the form of a clunker as he undoubtedly has been instructed too, confusing SDRE in his own mind.

Think of the insanity of this. The Panda overlords, are paying someone, to post on a Indian defence forum, with material that they will not let even their own citizens ever see.
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Hari Seldon wrote:this dhaga is also lost i fear. good riddance, perhaps.
Hold on Saar. These are normal sights,sounds and smells of dhaga. Every dhaga has its own flora and founa. One has to face it.If you close this thread and start new one.........it is going to same. Do not forget this thread represents interaction between truth and farce, between ignorant and honest,between worlds biggest prison and open society.
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Theo_Fidel wrote:The reason for Wang/Wong's slick explanations is that BRF is completely banned from the mainland. So said 50 center needs a cover story on where he is posting from. In typically blundering bureaucrat fashion he drops it in the form of a clunker as he undoubtedly has been instructed too, confusing SDRE in his own mind.

Think of the insanity of this. The Panda overlords, are paying someone, to post on a Indian defence forum, with material that they will not let even their own citizens ever see.
you are correct, saar. my view is that "wong" sounds like a paki-RAPE settled in UK than any chinese origin person (including second gen or taipei). He brings nothing new to the thread, other than a few notes from Ayub khan's handbook on how to troll SDREs.
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Wong, as I recall, is the Wade-Giles spelling of what the official Chinese Pinyin spelling now depicts as 'Huang'. They're both the same Chinese character, with just the romanization spelling having changed. I know multiple Wong's who are PRC (Guangdong) born, with no ties to HK. Most of them are Toisanese and Chiuchow Chinese from that area, which our own wong may be too, just having taken a detour via HK.

Of course, Wong would be correct that no one from PRC is named Wong today. If his ancestors came here between the late 1800s and 1949, they had no nationality per se since China did not exist as a de facto unified country for most of that time anyway. Kind of like someone asserting vigorously that Cawnpore does not exist, which is completely true; only a place named Kanpur does :)
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Chinese 2nd west-to-east line is world's longest gas pipeline. In addition to 1st, and 2nd west-to-east line

Third line to boost gas supply
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Project to bring opportunities to manufacturing, other industries

China on Tuesday began the construction of its third pipeline that will send natural gas from the nation's resource-rich western regions to the energy-starved east.

The west-to-east gas pipeline, which will cost 125 billion yuan ($20 billion), is expected to transmit 30 billion cubic meters of gas annually.

It will help transport 25 billion cubic meters of natural gas every year from Central Asia and deliver 5 billion cubic meters of coal gas from the Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region to central and eastern China, according to China National Petroleum Corp, which owns the project.

The 7,378-km pipeline will cross 10 provinces and autonomous regions, including Xinjiang, Gansu and Ningxia, having one trunk line, eight branch lines, three gas storage facilities and a liquid natural gas peak-shaving station.

The third pipeline, a project approved this year by the State Council, is expected to be completed before 2015.

"The completion of the project will help millions of people in the areas along the pipelines to use clean energy," said Vice-Premier Li Keqiang in a congratulatory letter. "It will improve China's energy structure and contribute to the country's target of reducing carbon emissions."

Meanwhile, the construction of the project will bring business opportunities to related industries such as equipment manufacturing and material technology, he said.

After completion, the project will be able to deliver 30 billion cubic meters of natural gas to the market every year, which will help raise the percentage of natural gas consumption in the country's primary energy use from the current 4.6 percent to 5.6 percent, said Liu Tienan, head of the National Energy Administration.

"Although the Chinese government is encouraging the development of shale gas, it takes time," he said. "In a very long time, China's natural gas supply will still rely on the imports."

The three main suppliers of imported natural gas delivered by the pipeline are Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. Coal gas from Xinjiang will be the supplementary source.

Liu said China's dependency on imported natural gas will rise to 30 percent this year and it will continue to increase.

China's natural gas consumption in 2012 will reach 150 billion cubic meters, accounting for more than 5 percent among the primary energy mix, according to a report from the CNPC Economic and Technology Research Institute.

In 2011, the dependency on foreign supply was 24 percent.

China imported 12.78 million tons of natural gas in the first half of this year, up 31 percent year-on-year. CNPC, the owner of the first and second phases of the natural gas transmission project in the country, raised its share of imported natural gas in the country from 47 percent in 2011 to 61 percent during the first half .

"The project will further increase CNPC's shares in the natural gas market in the future," said Qian Li, senior industry analyst at the energy consultancy ICIS C1 Energy. "The increased natural gas use will help substitute for coal and some fuel consumption."

According to the CNPC, the project can replace 76.8 million tons of coal consumption and reduce 130 million tons of carbon emission every year.

CNPC signed with Baosteel Group Corp, the National Council for Social Security Fund and the urban infrastructure industry investment fund in May to develop the project cooperatively, which is the first time the company has allowed private capital in pipeline construction. The act is considered a move to attract social capital to enter the major fundamental projects in the country.

As the top shareholder of the joint venture company, CNPC holds a 52 percent stake.

Jiang Jiemin, chairman of PetroChina Co Ltd, CNPC's listed arm, said the fourth and fifth phases of the project are being planned, and the company is open to cooperation.

However, Qian said only a few powerful private enterprises are able to participate in the construction of such projects because of the huge investment required and long cycles.

Jiang said PetroChina will gradually build pipelines in Southwest and Northeast China and under the sea.

The first and second phases of the west-to-east gas transmission project, requiring a total investment of more than 290 billion yuan, are the largest infrastructure project in China so far. The first phase, from Xinjiang to Shanghai, began in 2002 and finished in 2004. It had delivered 138.9 billion cubic meters of natural gas by mid-October this year.

The second phase was China's first pipeline to connect overseas gas fields in Central Asia. The main part of the second phase was finished in June 2011. It had delivered 36.8 billion cubic meters of natural gas by mid-October. The branch lines will be completed by the end of this year.
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What's more interesting is that the drone regiment comes and goes as a unit. If one drone leaves for a 'vacation', mysteriously all other drones take 'vacation' at the same time - very disciplined onlee. 8) Paki syeds must learn from chipanda drones. Paki drones are too unskilled - within 3-5 posts they can be baited into a maa-di behen-di exchange and get banned. Chipanda drones very polite, very persistent and very good at focusing on the task at hand. Jai Hu!

Didn't know there was a wiki article on 50 cent'ers! :lol:
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"Lunatic Liu" and "Great Reap Liu" . Very apt I suppose. Classic template and sterotype of the Commie overboss and the top down disasters that follow.

Cloud Cukcoo decisions like "Erimenate the Spallows" and other "pests" unleash a swarm of locust of biblical proportions that eat up the crops and Chinese starve.
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The guests were ushered aboard by female attendants in Pan Am-style pillbox hats and pencil skirts; each attendant, according to regulations, had to be at least five feet five inches tall, and was trained to smile with exactly eight teeth visible. :rotfl:
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^
Sir, just like the 'official statistics' of the death toll from the Banqiuo dam disaster in 1975 in China were declassified only 30 years later (in 1998) - I'm sure many statistics will emerge of rail / mine and construction disasters as well - 30 years later :). Unfortunately as with Chinese official statistics - those too would be doctored. For instance, the official stats of China claim that around 26,000 people died in the disaster - though actually 6 times the number died. In India fortunately, we will not have to adjust to a new reality every 20 to 30 years :)
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zlin wrote:Just let the facts speak.
Indeed. Let it.

I had warned folks, esp the Chinese ones here on this thread that the High Speed Rail in China is a massive white elephant and will bleed China to the bone for decades to come. It is just marginally more useful than the other "historical" Chinese project of gargantuan scale, the Great Wall.

On how the costs of the HSR is basically a massive hole, how it can never pay for itself (it hasn't yet in most nations, Japan included I think for eg, the HSR busiest corridor with trains leaving some every 5 minutes Tokya Osaka is $170 ONE WAY, around 560 kms and 3.5 hrs, compare that with San Jose to LA round trip of $170 or less by Southwest in the old days ), especially in a country still very poor as China. Okay, a short haul between large metros (Shanghai /Beijing) connecting close city clusters within 500 kms of that metro might make sense, but this current build out is definitely a massive white elephant.

In response an army of Chinese posters came showing "data" and "statistics" and this and that on how trains are running full , etc.. etc and how the HSR will make money back soon .. Mercifully, that talk about payback on the HSR and it actually being a viable project economically has stopped and there is dead silence on it.

I repeat, the HSR is another "Gleat Reap Folwald" and a consequnce of similar thinking. While the original one led to immediate hunger (and how many 30 Million deaths at minimum?) and destitution, this one is going to be such a massive millstone around your neck for ages to come. Atleast you could reverse the impact of Mao's "Gleat Reap", by just turning back those idiocies, but with this one, you CAN'T. You cannot pull out the tracks you laid, the stations you built (like airports, far away from the city mind you ) ! The deed is done. Karma. It is a beeaatch. Gotta live with the consequences.

I had warned the folks here that the "Gleat Stimurus" in 2008 was going to be massively wasted and misspent. Well, it has been (HSR and the massive real estate build out are the primary ones). The Chinese themselves know it and hence no more talk about follow up "Gleat Stimurus" in current depressed times. Like a gambler, they threw the dice on that and lost and sank deeper.

I for one am glad that in India, NO ONE is talking of a HSR along the lines of China, but rather dedicated freight corridors, freeing up the current IR network to be upgraded and modernized for passenger traffic! Any HSR ideas are only for dense metro clusters and associated short haul and not long distance long haul, where airplanes are definitely more suited (imagine a Bangalore to Gauhati HSR .. stupidity of the highest order , if you are rich enough to pay that, you will find the airfare very competitive and use the plane instead!), are not fixed (ie nail to the ground investments), are more flexible, can follow demand and less risky (you can sell the plane back in the global market, I doubt you can uproot the tracks and stations and sell them like you do a plane!).
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To Renminbi Or Not to Renminbi? Why China's currency is not taking over the world.
There are three degrees of RMB internationalization. First, China and its major trading partners transact in RMB; this has been happening since 2009. The next step is widespread third-party usage of the RMB in financial and trade transactions. In other words, only when parties undertaking transactions unrelated to China regularly use the RMB will it truly be an international currency. For the RMB to take the final step and become a global reserve currency, central banks around the world would have to maintain sizable holdings of RMB to insure against their own financial risks. In other words, the RMB would become a so-called safe-haven currency the way that the dollar and the yen are today.
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But the biggest hurdle to internationalizing the RMB is China's reputation. During the 2008-2009 financial crisis, there was significant downward pressure on the RMB, suggesting that the currency was still not considered a safe haven. It is striking that when panic struck the global economy in 2008 and late 2011, international investors still sought safety in the United States and Japan instead of China, the world's second-largest economy. The overarching reason is that China lacks fundamental institutions, such as the rule of law and democratic leadership selection, that provide what analysts call "credible commitments" to the financial market about the sanctity of debt and derivative instruments. As large as the Chinese financial system is today (with nearly $21 trillion in assets, according to global rating agency Fitch Ratings), state-owned entities such as state banks and insurance companies own most of the financial assets. The government has not been able to credibly demonstrate to private investors that it will keep its hands off their money. Because the counterparties in most international financial transactions will be state-owned entities, global investors are unsure whether these state actors will renege on agreements or whether the opaque Chinese legal system will fairly adjudicate claims against state-owned counterparties or even the government itself.
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Interesting article from a link off of /.
$100 Billion For China’s Railroads
Picture a vast Chinese state institution with around two million staff, comprising a baffling array of units and sub-departments all scattered across the country. Under the guise of a sweeping, rapid modernization plan this institution’s budget expands so quickly – to around $100 billion a year – that it is hard for anyone to keep track of how much is really being spent, or on what.
That is a hell of a lot of money for railroads. Wonder if the two million staff are all actually working or are some of them just drawing a salary for doing nothing? Article goes on to say that not all of it actually goes to building railroads and paying staff salaries though, as there is a lot of skimming off the top by corrupt officials.
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I think UPA is drawing its policy lessons from China for sure. MNGREGA is Chinese HRS a a much smaller scale.
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vina, white elephant my a$$...

South Africa buys 95 CSR Trains

http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/transp ... t-delivery

China tops US for FDI first 2 quarters of 2012. South Asia (mainly India) plunges 40%.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... Collection

One day you'll be forced to wake up to reality buddy.
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wong wrote:vina, white elephant my a$$...

South Africa buys 95 CSR Trains

http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/transp ... t-delivery
Your a$$ indeed. If a LOCOMOTIVE can become "TRAINS" it indeed is! As for Chinese locos, you should ask your pals next to the western borders of India , why aren't they running trains with your super duper locos , but want to buy/lease close to 100 Indian Locos instead.

As for the Chinese Locos in Africa, just look under the comment section of the article you posted.
Once again the government should be congratulated on making a shady deal with the chinese. Namibia ordered 17 locomotives from the same manufacturer a few years ago and take a guess how many of them are still running? Yup, none!
History repeating itself in South Africa as farce , after tragedies in Namibia and Pakistan huh ? :lol: :lol: :lol:
China tops US for FDI first 2 quarters of 2012. South Asia (mainly India) plunges 40%.
Yawn.. Pull some random stuff out of some random place like your A$$ for what reason ?
One day you'll be forced to wake up to reality buddy.
The Pakis woke up to "reality", the Namibians did, so will the South Africans!
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Cathay Fortune Mine Bid Turns Hostile, a China Rarity

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 42436.html
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{Deleted. No need for that, please. The poster was warned for being a repeat offender at starting us vs them comparisons in this thread, despite multiple cautions to everyone.

Please stick to discussions about PRC economy, whether it be praise or criticism. Chinese posters responding to criticism about PRC with some trash about India, or Indian posters posting some us vs them flame bait to begin with, will both be warned.}
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Interesting read about how CHINESE manufacturing industry will find hard to survive in the coming decades with manufacturing becoming more like computer programming.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... 909186.cms
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corruption and gland pa empire
The details of how Ms. Yang, a widow, accumulated such wealth are not known, or even if she was aware of the holdings in her name. But it happened after her son was elevated to China’s ruling elite, first in 1998 as vice prime minister and then five years later as prime minister.

Many relatives of Wen Jiabao, including his son, daughter, younger brother and brother-in-law, have become extraordinarily wealthy during his leadership, an investigation by The New York Times shows. A review of corporate and regulatory records indicates that the prime minister’s relatives, some of whom have a knack for aggressive deal-making, including his wife, have controlled assets worth at least $2.7 billion.
As prime minister in an economy that remains heavily state-driven, Mr. Wen, who is best known for his simple ways and common touch, more importantly has broad authority over the major industries where his relatives have made their fortunes. Chinese companies cannot list their shares on a stock exchange without approval from agencies overseen by Mr. Wen, for example. He also has the power to influence investments in strategic sectors like energy and telecommunications.

Because the Chinese government rarely makes its deliberations public, it is not known what role — if any — Mr. Wen, who is 70, has played in most policy or regulatory decisions. But in some cases, his relatives have sought to profit from opportunities made possible by those decisions.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012 ... ref=global
longish article.
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Double post :roll:
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http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB1 ... g=reno-wsj



China Edges Out U.S. as Top Destination Amid Foreign-Investment Decline

By PAUL HANNON And SUDEEP REDDY

Businesses curtailed new overseas investments in the first half of the year, another symptom of the global economic slowdown.

Global foreign direct investment inflows fell 8% to $668 billion in the first six months of this year compared with the year-earlier period, the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development said Tuesday.

A decline in flows to the U.S. and to large developing economies drove most of the drop, as emerging markets such as Russia and India posted large declines.

China became the world's top destination for foreign investment in the year's first half, edging the U.S. out of the top position for the first time since 2003. But the U.S. may reclaim the top spot in the second half, the report said.

Even if China's stay at the top of the rankings proves brief, it underlines the shift in foreign investment flows that has occurred since the financial crisis hit developed economies in 2008, making faster-growing developing economies more appealing to businesses.

Foreign investment in developing economies matched flows to developed economies for the first time, the report said.

Political uncertainties also have caused businesses to hold back on investment decisions. The euro-zone debt crisis continues, while the U.S. presidential election and China's once-in-a-decade leadership change take place next month. "It's a difficult year for elections, and that is one of the reasons why businesses are taking a wait-and-see attitude," said James Zhan, director of the investment and enterprise division at the U.N. organization.

Foreign direct investment can take a number of forms, including mergers and acquisitions, building new facilities, reinvesting profits earned from overseas operations and intracompany loans. FDI makes up a significant portion of total business investment in many countries. Stagnant foreign investment flows can compound existing problems, deepening a slowdown.

"With the world slowing, foreign companies don't have the cash flow they once had and they're quite nervous about what their future is going to be," said Martin Baily, an economist at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

An increasing share of investment has flowed into developing economies in recent years, chasing the faster growth rates seen in those markets compared with advanced economies. "It's amazing the U.S. has been such a major destination for so long," he said.

Foreign direct investment into the U.S. peaked in 2000 at more than $300 billion before tumbling in the recession that followed, according to Commerce Department data. Annual U.S. FDI inflows surged in 2008 to near their previous peak before tumbling during the financial crisis.

After another postrecession recovery in recent years, U.S. inflows now appear headed lower as businesses avoid investments in new projects and experience a slowdown in M&A activity.

The U.N. data show that U.S. FDI inflows reached $57.4 billion in the first half of this year, down from $94.4 billion in last year's period.

China attracted $59.1 billion in foreign investment in the first six months, down from $60.9 billion in the year-earlier half.

Early indications for the third and fourth quarters suggest the U.S. may claim the top position for 2012 as a whole, the U.N. report said, citing the recently announced $20 billion acquisition of Sprint Nextel S -0.53%by Japan's Softbank 9984.TO -0.15%.

The U.N. report estimates that global FDI flows will "at best" be unchanged at around $1.6 trillion this year; in July, it had forecast a rise of 5%. And it said that while it expects a pickup in 2013, that will depend on business confidence.

FDI flows to South Asia—in which India is the dominant country—fell 40% in the first half.

India's growth has slowed sharply over the past year. While its FDI inflows have been much smaller than those into China and the U.S., India's 43% drop was considerable. Indian investment flows from overseas fell to $10.4 billion in the first half from $18.2 billion in the first half of last year.


While foreign investment in the euro zone declined only slightly, the currency area's woes led to a slump in flows to many parts of Central and Eastern Europe, which experienced a drop of 28%. Foreign investment in Russia dropped 39%.

By contrast, FDI flows to Latin America rose 8% from the first half of 2011, while flows to Africa were up 5%. Inflows to the Middle East were little changed.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-1 ... enovo.html
Hewlett-Packard’s Reign as Top PC Maker Ended by Lenovo

By Adam Satariano and Aaron Ricadela - Oct 11, 2012 8:27

Hewlett-Packard Co. products in a Best Buy store in East Palo Alto, Ca. Hewlett-Packard’s PC sales slumped after the company said it would consider spinning off the division last summer.

Hewlett-Packard Co. (HPQ)’s six-year reign as the world’s top personal-computer maker was ended by China’s Lenovo Group Ltd. (992), highlighting the challenges facing Chief Executive Officer Meg Whitman as she strives to revive growth at the 73-year-old U.S. technology company.

Beijing-based Lenovo Group Ltd. has been building up the PC franchise it acquired from International Business Machines Corp. Photographer: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg

Lenovo, which made a deeper push into the market by acquiring International Business Machines Corp. (IBM)’s PC unit seven years ago, accounted for 15.7 percent of shipments last quarter, compared with 15.5 percent for Hewlett-Packard, market-research firm Gartner Inc. said yesterday. While another firm, IDC, had Hewlett-Packard at No. 1 by a slim margin last quarter, its research also showed Lenovo closing the gap.

Hewlett-Packard, which had held the lead since 2006, lost share amid management upheaval and strategy shifts that included the possible spinoff of the PC unit, a prospect later abandoned by Whitman. The company has been harder hit by a slump caused by economic malaise and a shift away from traditional computers toward mobile devices, such as Apple Inc. (AAPL)’s iPad. Gains in less- developed countries are also helping Lenovo.

“Lenovo has been a beneficiary because of some of the acquisitions it’s made and its relatively high exposure to emerging markets, which are outperforming developed markets,” said Brent Bracelin, an analyst at Pacific Crest Securities. “It’s not just Lenovo, it’s part of a bigger trend across the consumer device market.”

PC Slump
Global PC shipments fell 8.3 percent from a year earlier to 87.5 million last quarter, according to Gartner. IDC reported an 8.6 percent decline.

The figures contrast with data from the last decade, when the PC industry experienced double-digit growth most years as companies and households flocked to notebook computers. Those purchases have slumped with the advent of iPads and smartphones.

The PC industry is seeking a boost from the introduction this month of Windows 8, the new version of Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)’s flagship operating system.

Lenovo’s climb has been powered by hardware acquisitions and income growth in its home market, the largest for PCs and the world’s most populous nation. Market-share gains have fueled profit growth exceeding 25 percent for 12 straight quarters. Chief Executive Officer Yang Yuanqing said in August that he won’t stop with a lead in PCs and aims to dominate in mobile devices as well.

Lenovo ‘Milestone’
Lenovo this week announced a group of four computers that convert from notebooks to tablets and will run Windows 8.

Achieving the top spot is a “psychological milestone” that’s not likely to give Lenovo’s shares much of a lift because it has been widely anticipated, Dennis Lam, a Hong Kong-based analyst at DBS Vickers, said in an Oct. 9 e-mail.

The stock fell 0.8 percent to close at HK$6.17 in Hong Kong trading yesterday. Beijing-based Lenovo has gained 19 percent this year, compared with a 13 percent advance for the benchmark Hang Seng Index.

Hewlett-Packard fell 1.3 percent to $14.18 yesterday in New York. Shares of the Palo Alto, California-based company have dropped 45 percent this year.

Hewlett-Packard’s PC sales slumped after the company said it would consider spinning off the division last summer, a decision Whitman reversed soon after taking the top job. She told analysts on the last earnings call that the company would “defend our No. 1 position” in PCs.

Intel, Microsoft
The PC-growth slowdown is also hampering technology- industry bellwethers Intel Corp. (INTC) and Microsoft Corp. Intel may report its first sequential third-quarter sales drop in more than two decades, while analysts have predicted that Microsoft this quarter will suffer its first sales decline in two years.

Dell Inc. (DELL) followed Hewlett-Packard as the third-biggest PC maker, with its share falling to 10.5 percent from 11.2 percent a year earlier, Gartner said. Acer Inc. (2353)’s share slipped to 9.9 percent from 10.1 percent, while Asustek Computer Inc. (2357) climbed to 7.3 percent to 6 percent.

According to IDC, Hewlett-Packard’s share tumbled to 15.9 percent from 17.4 percent. Lenovo’s share climbed to 15.7 percent from 13.1 percent.

IDC’s study includes so-called workstations, the more powerful desktop devices used for such tasks as engineering, architecture and video-game development, said Michael Thacker, a spokesman for Hewlett-Packard.

“While there are a variety of PC share reports in the market, some don’t measure the market in its entirety,” he said. IDC’s analysis “is more comprehensive.”

In the U.S., Hewlett-Packard, Dell and Apple were the three largest suppliers, according to Gartner.

U.S. PC shipments declined 13.8 percent in the quarter, Gartner said


http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... ay/490059/
Lenovo makes smartphone play

PC maker to soon start selling smartphones in India. Can it become global number one?

Bloomberg / Beijing Oct 19, 2012, 00:44 IST

Lenovo Group Ltd said slowing demand in the personal-computer market, where it overtook Hewlett-Packard Co (HP) as the global leader last quarter, was good reason for the company to expand into smartphones.

Lenovo, founded in 1984 with the equivalent of $25,000, has swelled to become a manufacturer valued at $8.4 billion, helped by takeovers, including International Business Machines Corp’s personal computer (PC) unit in 2005.

Lenovo was already the second-largest smartphone maker in China and planed to seize the top spot from Samsung Electronics, Milko Van Duijl, president for the Asia-Pacific and Latin America regions, said in Hong Kong today. “Our goal is definitely to get to number one and not only to take smartphones into the China market but also into emerging markets.”

Van Duijl said Lenovo had just begun selling handsets in Indonesia and India would follow, as Chief Executive Officer Yang Yuanqing moved closer to his goal of extending its PC dominance to smartphones and tablet computers.

“Despite the challenges in the global PC market, Lenovo continues to expand in both emerging markets and mature markets at the expense of its competitors,” Miles Xie, a Hong Kong-based analyst with Bocom International Holdings Co, wrote in a report today. Lenovo’s efforts are allowing the company to “rapidly expand its market share in the China smartphone market,” wrote Xie, who has a buy rating on the shares.

Lenovo, whose headquarters are in Beijing and Morrisville, North Carolina, closed at HK$6.33 in Hong Kong trading, unchanged from yesterday. The Hang Seng Index rose 0.5 percent.

Definite easing
“There is definitely a slowdown in the market in all parts of the world, however, we are so strong in China that was a good reason for us to expand into smartphones,” Van Duijl said.

In China, Lenovo has a smartphone market share of 11.5 per cent, surpassing the iPhone, Van Duijl said, without giving a figure for the Apple device.

As Lenovo expands in mobile devices, the company would build its own cloud-computing services and online store to create an eco-system for the products, he said. Lenovo won’t make its own mobile operating system and would stick with Google’s Android and Microsoft Windows 8, Van Duijl said.

Worldwide PC shipments fell 8.3 per cent from a year earlier to 87.5 million in the third quarter, according to Stamford, Connecticut-based Gartner Inc.

Temporary Slowdown
Lenovo saw the PC market slowdown as temporary, Van Duijl said. Global PC shipments would rise to 530 million units within two to three years, from 350 million units now, he said. Lenovo accounted for 15.7 per cent of global PC shipments last quarter, overtaking Hewlett-Packard, with 15.5 per cent, for the first time, Gartner said earlier.

The Chinese firm narrowed HP’s lead in the quarter with a market share of 15.7 per cent, compared with 15.9 per cent for the Palo Alto, California-based maker, according to IDC, another market researcher. IDC’s study included so-called workstations, the more powerful desktop devices used for such tasks as engineering, architecture and video-game development.

Yang said Lenovo would take steps to become the “clear leader” in PCs and leverage that dominance to head the market for mobile devices in what he called the “PC-plus era.”

“Becoming the clear leader in global PC share of course remains one of Lenovo’s aspirations, but it also only represents one more milestone in our journey as a company and our mission to become the leader in the PC+ era,” Yang said. “This includes PCs, tablets, smartphones, smart TVs, cloud and enterprise computing.”

Lenovo was still at least two years away from making “meaningful inroads” in mobile devices in the US or Europe, said Jean-Louis Lafayeedney, an analyst at JI Asia in Hong Kong. “Undoubtedly, Lenovo’s market share gains against competitors has been impressive” in PCs, Lafayeedney said in an e-mail. “In terms of tablets and smartphones, the company has yet to prove it can extend its reach beyond China and some periphery countries.”
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Don wrote:http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB1 ... g=reno-wsj



China Edges Out U.S. as Top Destination Amid Foreign-Investment Decline

By PAUL HANNON And SUDEEP REDDY

Businesses curtailed new overseas investments in the first half of the year, another symptom of the global economic slowdown.

Global foreign direct investment inflows fell 8% to $668 billion in the first six months of this year compared with the year-earlier period, the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development said Tuesday.

A decline in flows to the U.S. and to large developing economies drove most of the drop, as emerging markets such as Russia and India posted large declines.

China became the world's top destination for foreign investment in the year's first half, edging the U.S. out of the top position for the first time since 2003. But the U.S. may reclaim the top spot in the second half, the report said.

Even if China's stay at the top of the rankings proves brief, it underlines the shift in foreign investment flows that has occurred since the financial crisis hit developed economies in 2008, making faster-growing developing economies more appealing to businesses.

Foreign investment in developing economies matched flows to developed economies for the first time, the report said.

Political uncertainties also have caused businesses to hold back on investment decisions. The euro-zone debt crisis continues, while the U.S. presidential election and China's once-in-a-decade leadership change take place next month. "It's a difficult year for elections, and that is one of the reasons why businesses are taking a wait-and-see attitude," said James Zhan, director of the investment and enterprise division at the U.N. organization.

Foreign direct investment can take a number of forms, including mergers and acquisitions, building new facilities, reinvesting profits earned from overseas operations and intracompany loans. FDI makes up a significant portion of total business investment in many countries. Stagnant foreign investment flows can compound existing problems, deepening a slowdown.

"With the world slowing, foreign companies don't have the cash flow they once had and they're quite nervous about what their future is going to be," said Martin Baily, an economist at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

An increasing share of investment has flowed into developing economies in recent years, chasing the faster growth rates seen in those markets compared with advanced economies. "It's amazing the U.S. has been such a major destination for so long," he said.

Foreign direct investment into the U.S. peaked in 2000 at more than $300 billion before tumbling in the recession that followed, according to Commerce Department data. Annual U.S. FDI inflows surged in 2008 to near their previous peak before tumbling during the financial crisis.

After another postrecession recovery in recent years, U.S. inflows now appear headed lower as businesses avoid investments in new projects and experience a slowdown in M&A activity.

The U.N. data show that U.S. FDI inflows reached $57.4 billion in the first half of this year, down from $94.4 billion in last year's period.

China attracted $59.1 billion in foreign investment in the first six months, down from $60.9 billion in the year-earlier half.

Early indications for the third and fourth quarters suggest the U.S. may claim the top position for 2012 as a whole, the U.N. report said, citing the recently announced $20 billion acquisition of Sprint Nextel S -0.53%by Japan's Softbank 9984.TO -0.15%.

The U.N. report estimates that global FDI flows will "at best" be unchanged at around $1.6 trillion this year; in July, it had forecast a rise of 5%. And it said that while it expects a pickup in 2013, that will depend on business confidence.

FDI flows to South Asia—in which India is the dominant country—fell 40% in the first half.

India's growth has slowed sharply over the past year. While its FDI inflows have been much smaller than those into China and the U.S., India's 43% drop was considerable. Indian investment flows from overseas fell to $10.4 billion in the first half from $18.2 billion in the first half of last year.


While foreign investment in the euro zone declined only slightly, the currency area's woes led to a slump in flows to many parts of Central and Eastern Europe, which experienced a drop of 28%. Foreign investment in Russia dropped 39%.

By contrast, FDI flows to Latin America rose 8% from the first half of 2011, while flows to Africa were up 5%. Inflows to the Middle East were little changed.
Strange world of smoke n mirrors

http://www.economist.com/news/china/215 ... eet-flight

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rsingh wrote: Strange world of smoke n mirrors

http://www.economist.com/news/china/215 ... eet-flight
Indeed... :wink:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/ ... -passports
Tax bills prompt Chinese to ditch US passports

The long arm of the American taxman has many wealthy mainlanders ruing theday they decided to get US citizenship, and more are considering trying to get rid of it


Sunday, 14 October, 2012, 12:00am Lulu Chen
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For many wealthy mainland Chinese who immigrated to the US, an American passport is a genie that cannot be put back in the bottle.

More and more of them are thinking about renouncing their US citizenship, something that would have been almost unimaginable a decade ago, when getting a US passport was the ultimate status symbol in China.

Wu, a 31-year-old housewife who asked to be identified only by her family name, said she started toying with the idea about a year ago. "I regret it to death, all of my friends regret it to death," said Wu about taking out US citizenship. "I'm never going back."

Behind her change of heart is tax. Under US law, American citizens and permanent residents, known as green card holders, are taxed on their worldwide income regardless of where they live. Other countries, including China, tax their citizens' global income. But it is the US, with its sophisticated systems and the long arm of its taxman, that has the highest profile.

In March 2010, Washington stepped up its tax collection efforts by enacting the Foreign Account Tax Compliance, or Fatca, aimed at cracking down on tax dodgers abroad. The regulations are set to be finalised before year's end, and the US Internal Revenue Service (IRS) expects the tightened compliance to generate as much as an extra US$9 billion over the next decade.

America's long history of tax collection, starting with the 16th amendment to the constitution that gave Congress the power to levy and collect taxes, makes paying tax a serious legal issue that many immigrants do not realise when they decide to become citizens. The law even extends beyond life to a dead person's estate.

But it's not just having to pay up that's a problem. Americans and green card holders face onerous US reporting requirements, often have trouble opening bank accounts outside the US and frequently find it hard to form business ventures overseas because potential partners fear getting on the IRS' radar screen.

The number of Americans renouncing their citizenship rose to about 1,780 last year from just 280 in 2006, according to data from the US Federal Register compiled by the Sunday Morning Post. The figures don't distinguish between US-born and naturalised citizens, and don't include permanent residents who have given up their green cards.

"With all this compliance burden, we think that the trend of US citizens at least thinking about giving up their citizenship" will continue, said Anthony Tong, a tax services partner at PricewaterhouseCoopers in Hong Kong.

Many wealthy people are deterred from giving up their citizenship halfway through the process when they learn the IRS will inspect their income globally looking for evidence of tax evasion, said Timmas Deng, a Hong Kong lawyer who specialises in immigration. "It's very hard to find a Chinese entrepreneur with an impeccable tax reporting history," he added.

John Gaver, author of The Rich Don't Pay Tax!...Or Do They?, argues that vast and increasing numbers of wealthy US citizens are just "dropping out" - taking all their wealth and quitting the US without ever formally renouncing their citizenship.

But this bears risks. Take, for instance, Steven Ng-Sheong Cheung, a Hong Kong-born economist who became a naturalised US citizen. He fled to mainland China from Hong Kong after he was indicted by the IRS in 2003 for tax evasion. He is still holed up on the mainland, which doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US. But Cheung could be extradited to the US if he travels to jurisdictions that do have such treaties, and according to the US State Department, that is more than half the jurisdictions on the planet, including Hong Kong.

Renouncing US citizenship is also expensive. Deng, the Hong Kong lawyer, said it usually took one to two years to complete the process. To avoid an individual becoming stateless, the US requires anyone giving back citizenship to be a citizen elsewhere.

There is also the fee for legal advice, which runs up to US$30,000 at Deng's firm. And there's a so-called expatriation tax, a charge that has to be paid when the US passport is surrendered, and which is subject to a complicated calculation. Different rules apply depending on the date of surrender. For instance, people giving up their citizenship since June 16, 2008, can be taxed as if their worldwide assets were sold at fair value at the time, even though there are no actual sales.

The rules "require individuals to come up with extra liquidity in a short time, which could be hard to fulfil", said Angelica Kwan, a US tax expert and partner at accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers in Hong Kong.

People who gave up their US passports before June 16, 2008, and who are deemed to meet a certain threshold of income or net worth are generally subject to continued US tax on a certain amount of their income for 10 years following the date they are no longer considered to be US citizens.

Still, the number of mainland Chinese immigrating to the US continues to swell. Last year 34,693 did so, more than double the number in 1992, according to the latest available figures from the US government.

Many are seeking better health care, a better environment or asset protection. Political risk is also a key reason, said independent economist Andy Xie, a Chinese citizen who lives in Shanghai and does not hold a US passport.

"For private entrepreneurs who became rich in China," Xie said, the chances were "very slim" that they hadn't been engaged in some kind of official corruption. That begged the question, he added, of "is this your money or the government's money".

Unlike the US, China doesn't recognise dual nationality, and Chinese who acquire foreign nationality are supposed to automatically lose their Chinese nationality, says Patrick Phua, a Beijing-based partner at law firm Ashurst.

Many mainlanders, like Wu, retain their Chinese citizenship while holding US citizenship, betting they will not get caught.

When Wu first decided to try to become a US citizen, she said it was the "in" thing to do in China. Her mother was living there temporarily, so Wu went there to study. Once she graduated, she wanted to stay on, so she took out citizenship, becoming the only member of her family to do so. Later, she married a wealthy mainlander but he doesn't have a US passport. Wu, who now has an eight-month-old child, said she was not worried about losing her Chinese citizenship because having more than one passport is "quite common in China".

Today, Wu splits her time between Hong Kong and the mainland. She has no ties to the US, where she says she has never owned property or any other assets. All of her immediate relatives live on the mainland and she hasn't been to the US for nearly a decade.

Wu never travels anywhere on her US passport, and tries to hide all traces of her income. Once she even refused to sign a contract with a potential business partner lest it leave a paper trail for US tax authorities to follow.

"I had no idea about the legal risks when I applied for American citizenship," Wu said. "If only I had consulted a lawyer."



Alien concept

US citizens and resident aliens are taxed on their worldwide income.

Some taxpayers may qualify for the foreign earned income exclusion and foreign housing exclusion, or foreign housing deduction, if:

•Their tax home is in a foreign country;

•They are US citizens who are a bona fide resident of a foreign country or countries for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year;

•They are US resident aliens who are a citizen or national of a country with which the United States has an income tax treaty with a nondiscrimination article in effect and who is a bona fide resident of a foreign country or countries for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year; or

•They are US citizens and resident aliens who are physically present in a foreign country or countries for at least 330 full days during any period of 12 consecutive months.
Taxpayers may be able to claim a foreign tax credit if required to pay a foreign income tax to the foreign country, if he or she has not elected the foreign earned income exclusion with respect to that income.

Taxpayers may also qualify to deduct away-from-home expenses (for travel, meals, and lodging), but not against excluded income.

Source: IRS
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So you have a Chinese passport and you do not want US passport. Ok good to know.
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while trawling architecture stuff on pinterest found a interesting site on some cancelled architectural projects in PRC
http://unmadeinchina.com/

there are two projects in Ordos - a famous name you already know of.
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rsingh wrote:So you have a Chinese passport and you do not want US passport. Ok good to know.
Never been to China, dont speak Chinese. I can't even use a chopstick.
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^^^
It mean you are living in free world. If you live in free world then why are you singing songs worlds biggest prison. I would have respected you if you were Chinese from China instead.You live in free world and you conspire against it.
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Chinese premier's family has massive wealth - NYT report
REUTERS - The family of Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, a leader known for his humble roots and compassion for ordinary people, has accumulated massive wealth during his time in power, the New York Times reported on Friday.

"A review of corporate and regulatory records indicates that the prime minister's relatives, some of whom have a knack for aggressive deal-making, including his wife, have controlled assets worth at least $2.7 billion," it said.

The Times' websites in English and Chinese were blocked in China on Friday morning, and searches for the New York Times as well as the names of Wen's children and wife were blocked on China's main Twitter-like microblog service.
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China’s economy: Not as strong as you think
HONG KONG — With all the campaign talk casting China as the bane of the US recovery, you could easily forget that the world’s second-largest economy is also on shaky legs.

This year, analysts’ conventional wisdom on China has shifted away from predictions of sunny days of double-digit growth in perpetuity, to talk of hard landings and tough transitions.

“If you look at the Chinese data, you should stop debating about a hard landing,” Adrian Mowat, JP Morgan’s chief Asian strategist said in March of this year. “China is in a hard landing. … It’s not a debate anymore, it’s a fact.”

New economic data from China give weight to that pessimistic view.

In the third quarter of 2012, China’s economy recorded its seventh straight quarterly slowdown, growing 7.4 percent — below the government set-target, and on pace to grow this year at the slowest annual pace in 13 years.

At the same time, some figures point tentatively to a stabilization of China’s economic health. New statistics show that retail sales have strengthened, exports almost doubled consensus estimates, and a key manufacturing index has risen to a three-month high.


Credit Agricole’s Dariusz Kowalczyk was among the analysts who saw enough hope in the news to say that China’s decline had hit a bottom.

“Concerns over a hard landing in China, or even of further slowdown may be put to rest.”

But others have taken a more skeptical view.

Alistair Thornton, senior China economist at IHS Global Insight, wrote in a report that while “those fearing a hard-landing will be able to sleep a little better tonight,” those “positioned for a clear recovery might be disappointed. The picture is one of emerging stabilization, not the return of unbridled optimism.”

In other words, China is not out of the woods yet. And the way forward for China’s economy is hardly as straightforward and threatening to America as the candidates suggest. In fact, many economists — and Chinese authorities themselves — believe the country is facing its most fundamental challenges in decades.

Exports, long the driver of China’s growth, are now a drag on it, as labor costs are rising and demand from the EU and America is slipping. Inflation has been rising. And investment stood at nearly 50 percent of GDP in 2011 — an unprecedented, arguably unsustainable level. This boom in infrastructure investments, fuelled by a massive stimulus in 2008, is rapidly becoming a liability, as the returns from building yet more airports, highways and apartment complexes diminish.

“For the last decade China enjoyed a delicious and fattening diet of cheesecake,” writes Arthur Kroeber of GK Dragonomics, about China’s longtime, investment-driven economic model. “This was all right for a while, but now the risk of arterial sclerosis looms, and a strict corrective regimen of broccoli is called for. It is not as tasty, but much healthier in the long run.”

Over the last two years, Beijing has deliberately tried to tamp down the outsized role that exports and investment play in the economy. This desire to spur a consumption-based economy is one reason why the overall growth rate has slowed.

But with a major political transition looming, it seems that officials have lost the stomach to weather a period of relatively sluggish expansion, and have flipped on the stimulus to keep the economy growing.

Approvals of new infrastructure spending surged to $157 billion in September. And interest rates have been cut twice, flooding $1.4 trillion of new loans into the market in 2012.

While this could work as a short-term fix to prop up GDP growth, many analysts say it’s will only delay the inevitable. Tom Holland, economic columnist for the South China Morning Post, says that “by loosening policy to support growth, the authorities have reversed the economic rebalancing trend that Beijing worked so hard to achieve earlier in the year.

“That means, although growth has recovered, China’s economic trajectory is once again becoming less, rather than more, sustainable.”

Of course, this does not mean that China faces an imminent disaster. Many China bulls have hailed the news that consumption topped investment as a driver of growth in 2012 as a sign that China’s economy is rebalancing, however slowly.

“Calling for the coming crash of China may be popular, but predicting the coming muddle-through is probably more accurate,” writes Bill Bishop, a China investor and analyst. “I know, some (many?) will say I sound hopelessly naïve.”

Still, as China stands on the verge of a major political transition, the necessity of imposing hard economic changes may fail to convince China’s new leaders that it’s worth the difficulty of attempting to pull it off.

Dong Tao, an economist at Credit Suisse, writes that the key question is whether “the leaders in Beijing will be willing to bite the bullet and undertake more structural reforms.

We do see some signs of willingness … Whether a breakthrough can be executed still remains to be seen. Until the structural issues have been addressed, we expect mediocre growth to be the new norm in China.”
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http://www.livetradingnews.com/brics-ch ... -91482.htm
BRICS: Chinese companies play Key role in Brazil’s growing economy

LNVGY, ZTCOF, SHI, SHKLY

Brazil’s booming domestic market and its growing importance in global economy have attracted a number of foreign companies to seek opportunities in the country, including many from Chinese.

Trade between Brazil and China has prospered in recent years, as Brazil reduces its dependency on the developed world’s products during the chronic financial crisis.

Bi-lateral trade volume has grown since China surpassed the United States to become Brazil’s largest trading partner in Y 2009. In Y 2011, Brazil’s exports to China reached US$44.3-B and imports were up to US$32.7-B.

In the 1st 9 months of Y 2012, trade between the 2 countries reached US$57.3-B.


Chinese products ranging from cars to cell phones are available in the markets of Brazil’s big cities.

Chinese companies that decided to invest in Brazil’s expanding domestic market include car manufacturers JAC and Chery, Oil giant Sinopec NYSE:SHI, and cell phone maker ZTE PINK;ZTCOF. The Bank of China has also set up offices in Sao Paulo.

Lenovo PINK:LNVGY computers have become increasingly popular and are easy to find in the country, and Sinotruk PINK:SHKLY, China’s largest manufacturer of heavy trucks, has recently announced the construction of a factory in the country’s southern region.

More job opportunities have been created in the local market by these Chinese companies, which have hired thousands of Brazilian workers.

Chinese companies from various sectors have already settled in Brazil,and given the country’s still expanding market, more Chinese companies are likely to keep on coming.

The presence of Chinese companies will grow in Brazil, becoming increasingly important to the country’s economy.

The Chinese economy is essential for the world. When one talks about a globalized world, one cannot forget China. And their importance is as big for Brazil as it is for the world
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http://thestar.com.my/lifestyle/story.a ... ebookshelf
Sunday October 28, 2012

Book review: China is still ascendant

Review by BUNN NAGARA
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When China Rules The World: The End Of The Western World And The Birth Of A New Global Order
Author: Marc Jacques
Publisher: Penguin, 848 pages

SKEWED as they may be, reactionary Orientalist perspectives of East Asian realities remain the norm in Western punditry and news reports. The problem has become prevalent in both conservative and liberal circles.

The problem for the West itself is that such a persistent misperception of modern China may undermine Western interests further. Martin Jacques’ When China Rules The World: The End Of The Western World And The Birth Of A New Global Order is intended largely as a corrective, looking at the historic phenomenon of China’s grand return to the global stage in China’s own terms.

My review of the first edition of Jacques’ book appeared earlier in China awakens (Star Bizweek, Oct 3, 2009). The present consideration is of the second edition published by Penguin earlier this year.

The first edition was subtitled The Rise Of The Middle Kingdom And The End Of The Western World. The second edition, suggesting an evolution, is subtitled The End Of The Western World And The Birth Of A New World Order.

Jacques and Penguin are just as grandiose now as before. The titling remains as presumptuous and alarmist, at least to Western conservatives, and no apologies are tendered in that regard.

The title itself can be a problem for those who judge a book by its cover. Jacques does not believe that China or any other country can “rule” the world today, only that China and things Chinese would predominate globally.

The second edition contains new data and a new section in the Afterword. For Jacques, international developments in the three years between the two editions only confirm and strengthen his central themes.

His chief arguments remain intact: that China will be dominant economically and culturally, it will not essentially be Westernised, and China will be ascendant despite multiple challenges.

This rise, mainly economic but also in other spheres later, is of epochal proportions. China’s ascendancy would result from both its own efforts and the decline of the West simultaneously.

The 2008 recession in the United States, followed by economic doldrums there and the European sovereign debt crisis underline the situation impeccably. In contrast, China’s GDP growth continues, affected only minimally.

Like many others, Jacques believes that China’s current growth model based on cheap labour and global raw materials is unsustainable. For example, China would need to stimulate more domestic demand to compensate for a slackening of overseas markets.

The latest data show that more and more countries have now made China their main trading partner. And as with trade, increasingly so with investment.

Thus, China’s economic gravitational “pull” is becoming unerring and compelling. Not only has China swiftly replaced Japan as the world’s second-largest economy, its relationship with the United States has replaced Japan’s as the most important bilateral relationship across the Pacific and in the world.

Analysts impressed with China’s economic growth once expected it to surpass the US economy in a couple of decades. But that timeframe has shrunk.

In 2009 Jacques cited the Goldman Sachs prediction that China’s economy would overtake the US’ by 2027. Sceptics scoffed.

In this second edition, he cites The Economist’s projection that the Chinese economy will become the world’s biggest by 2018. Now the International Monetary Fund predicts the year will be 2016.

But even when that happens, China will still be a developing country with vast human resources yet to reach peak productivity. That means when China’s standard of living approaches that of the US, with a comparable GDP per capita, its economy will be two to four times that of the US today.

Unlike many China pundits, particularly critics, Jacques believes China will not succumb to the weight of its own promise. He does not accept that China has to Westernise or democratise before it can fully develop and prosper.

Jacques also rejects the alarmist Western notion that today’s China is re-arming aggressively. He finds Chinese defence expenditure as a proportion of GDP falling between the 1970s and 1990s, and since then only keeping pace with GDP growth.

As expected, the very people he seeks to inform are often those who spurn his information. Jacques attributes this Western stubbornness to a mixture of unfamiliarity, ignorance, prejudice, denial, stereotyping, racism and Cold War ideology against a non-Western country that is communist, at least in name.

With such unwieldy baggage, the nuances and subtleties about China are naturally lost on the bigots. For Jacques, China is a continent-sized civilisational state whose history has seen upheavals and expansion on its Asiatic land mass, but not military adventurism in a littoral and archipelagic East Asia.

In response to critics of an increasingly powerful China, Jacques does not see China as a global superpower. He finds China historically absorbed in its own internal governance as it is a very difficult country to govern, its trajectory will continue to be tempestuous, but it is still a complex and sophisticated state and the home of statecraft, so it cannot simply be dismissed with an epithet like “authoritarian”.

For example, while critics fret over the People’s Liberation Army and the PLA Navy, it is China’s Coast Guard rather than the military that is a key player in the disputed island claims. Jacques finds no less than seven uncoordinated Chinese agencies involved over these claims.

A key question in the book is whether the United States will allow China the space to be a major player in Beijing’s own regional backyard. Jacques finds that unlikely, while also convinced that US efforts, such as its “pivot” to contain China, will ultimately fail.

This book still has major gaps that need filling. A central theme is that China’s coming predominance will be different from that of Western colonialism, but how different and in what ways?

Jacques also envisages an updated revival of the tributary system in East Asia, in which all the smaller countries acknowledge their junior status with regard to China. But what form will a revised tributary system take?

Another key point is China essentially being a civilisational state rather than just a nation state like other countries. But what can this mean in practical policy terms, particularly in China’s relations with other countries?

Such answers are essential to an intelligent understanding of a rising modern China. But we may have to wait for a new book by the author for further illumination, because any answers are unlikely to be accommodated by the structure of the present work, notwithstanding its already intriguing insights.

The first edition was already a vast interdisciplinary work of far-reaching implications, and the second version even more so. Few analysts as authors have achieved what Jacques has: combining the depth and rigour of academia with the readability and vigour of journalism in a single volume on a subject of great topicality.

The result is a serious and interesting textbook which, despite its 800+ pages, has sold a quarter of a million copies (and counting) in a dozen languages in its first edition alone. His critics have yet to match that kind of appeal in whatever they have to say.

> Bunn Nagara is an associate editor at The Star.
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China’s economy to rebound


(Bloomberg) / 28 October 2012

China’s economy will probably rebound in the fourth quarter, Jia Kang, a Ministry of Finance researcher, said at a conference reviewing China’s economic performance in Beijing on Saturday.

China will achieve its full-year growth target of 7.5 per cent and “the rebound in the fourth quarter is likely to extend into next year,” Jia said at the quarterly conference at the China Center for Economic Research, Peking University.

The median forecast in a Bloomberg news survey of 30 economists, which was published on October 24, is for China’s economy to expand 7.7 per cent in the October-December period. Third-quarter growth eased to 7.4 per cent from a year earlier, the seventh straight deceleration.

At the same time, some monthly data showed signs of a pickup. Industrial production in September rose a more-than-estimated 9.2 per cent from a year earlier, retail sales climbed 14.2 per cent, the most since March, and fixed-asset investment excluding rural households for the first nine months of the year increased 20.5 per cent.

“For short-term growth prospects, there will be no big problem,” Jia said. “China’s pro-growth policies will continue to have effect.”

China’s budget deficit may also increase a little next year, “but there will be no significant increase,” Jia said. While China may also issue more local government bonds in 2013, “overall local government debt risks are under control,” he said.

Meanwhile, Chinese industrial companies’ profits rose in September for the first time in six months, adding to signs economic growth is picking up following a seven-quarter slowdown.

Net income rose 7.8 per cent from a year earlier to 464.3 billion yuan ($74.3 billion), the National Bureau of Statistics said on Saturday in Beijing. That compared with a 6.2 per cent decline in August, the year’s largest drop.

Today’s report followed data showing industrial production and retail sales accelerated in September and a manufacturing gauge rose in October. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao said the economy will keep showing “positive changes,” according to a report last week by the official Xinhua news agency.

“As upstream commodity prices are falling, Chinese corporate profits have room to rise,” Wang Tao, chief China economist at UBS AG in Hong Kong, said before today’s report.

Huaneng Power International Inc., which develops and operates power plants across China, said October 24 that its third-quarter profit rose 757 per cent to two billion yuan.

Industrial companies’ profits in the first nine months of the year declined 1.8 per cent to 3.5 trillion yuan, according to on Friday’s statement. That compares with a 3.1 per cent drop in the first eight months and a 27 per cent gain in the same period in 2011. The government began reporting monthly year-over-year profit changes in October 2011.

The previous profit declines have weighed on stocks this year, with the benchmark Shanghai Composite Index down six per cent so far in 2012. The gauge dropped 1.7 per cent on Friday.

Revenue for industrial companies in the first nine months increased 10.2 per cent from a year earlier to 65.7 trillion yuan, the statistics bureau report showed. Sales rose 29.6 per cent in the January-September period of 2011.

Preventing any further slowdown is a chief challenge for the ruling Communist Party as it begins a once-a-decade leadership transition with a congress set to start on November 8 in Beijing, where Vice-President Xi Jinping will probably become head of the party. At the annual session of the legislature in March, Xi is likely to succeed Hu Jintao as president and Vice Premier Li Keqiang may succeed Wen as premier.

China’s foreign-exchange regulator said on Friday that the nation is not suffering from capital flight, even as growth in foreign reserves eased “significantly” in the third quarter.

The country’s third-quarter current account surplus was $70.6 billion, bringing the nine-month surplus to $147.8 billion, the State Administration of Foreign Exchange said. Capital and financial accounts recorded a three-month deficit of $71 billion, bringing the nine-month gap to $85.4 billion, it said.

China’s gross domestic product expanded 7.4 per cent from a year earlier in the July-September period, slowing from 7.6 per cent in the second quarter, according to government data. — Bloomberg

Industrial production in September rose a more-than-estimated 9.2 per cent from a year earlier.

China’s factory-output growth will be faster this quarter than in the previous three months, helping the nation achieve its target for economic expansion in 2012, Zhu Hongren, chief engineer at the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, said at an October 25 briefing.

The preliminary reading of a purchasing managers’ index released on October 24 by HSBC Holdings Plc and Markit Economics was 49.1 for October, up from a final level of 47.9 for September. Readings below 50 indicate contraction.
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‘‘There is very little public confidence in the government,’’ she said. ‘‘Who knows if they are saying this just to make us leave and then keep on doing the project.’’
Hundreds of people outside the government offices refused to budge despite being urged to leave by officials. Riot police with helmets and shields came out of the government compound and pushed the crowd back. Some people including families ran away. Police dragged six men and one woman into the compound, beating and kicking at least three of them. Police also smashed placards and took away flags.
Authorities said ‘‘a few’’ :rotfl: people disrupted public order by staging sit-ins, unfurling banners, distributing fliers and obstructing roads.
‘‘They won’t even let us sing the national anthem,’’ Wang said. ‘‘They kept asking me who the leader of the protests was and I said that this is all voluntary. We have no leader.’’
In a sign that censors were at work, the name ‘‘Zhenhai’’ was blocked :rotfl: on China’s popular microblogging site Sina Weibo
Chinese officials bow to protests against factory
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