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Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 20 Dec 2024 20:37
by ricky_v
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... i-00194287
The Saudi Arabia you encounter today wants these fires to be put out as soon as possible. In the meantime, it acts as if they don’t exist. As news from Syria and Gaza dominated global headlines, the conversation here focused on other matters. An ultramodern driverless metro, the world’s longest subway system, opened last week. Jennifer Lopez, in a plunging sequined body suit, headlined a fashion show/concert “ode to the female figure” put on in Riyadh by the Lebanese designer Elie Saab. Later this week, Hollywood’s glitterati are coming in for the Red Sea Film Festival. On Wednesday, Saudi Arabia won the right to host the 2034 soccer World Cup.


This, in a couple of nutshells, is today’s Saudi Arabia, as transformed with a firm hand by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

“Like China on steroids,” one diplomat quips.

“There is this sense that they don’t want anything to screw up the good things that are happening in their own country,” adds another.
Riyadh is disorienting. The conversations you have, the public interactions, images that come at you are so … normal. As if you were in Singapore, Seoul or Stockholm. Until you remember where you are: a film festival in a place where a decade ago cinemas were closed and public executions on Riyadh’s “Chop Chop Square” passed for mass entertainment. Forget about J.Lo. Saudi women, fashionably dressed, hair covered, slightly exposed or freely flowing, greet you at a hotel reception desk or sit next to you at a coffee shop or drive — that wasn’t possible in the fundamentalist version of Saudi Arabia.

“It could be seen as a provocation,” says Elie Saab Jr., the designer’s son and CEO of the fashion company, referring to last month’s fashion show. “But Saudi Arabia is on a mission. They want to change, and we are happy to contribute to that vision.”

“What has changed in this country? Everything,” says Mohammed Alyahya, the U.S.-educated senior adviser to the Saudi foreign minister, echoing what every ambassador and businessperson I meet here tells me. “We all thought it might take two to three generations. It was sudden and it worked. We have a leader in this country who is drawing on the energy of the ‘youth bulge’ to remake it.”
There is no other game in town than Washington. China helped broker the Saudi normalization deal with Iran and is looking to expand its influence. But it can’t come close to the hard and soft power that the U.S. has in the Middle East.

The other Gulf countries are effectively well-run city states. Saudi Arabia carries real bulk — and faces real challenges. MBS has to navigate his family and tribal politics and worry about resistance to his modernization plans. Saudi demographics are an advantage and a danger. The oil riches, vulnerable to swinging prices — at the moment on the way down — have to provide all these young people opportunities. Geography matters, of course, too. Iran, Yemen and the Levant are all nearby. Egypt, which had a brief fling with freedom in 2011, is big, poor, repressed and ripe for another explosion.
it seems, only the 2 beggars blighting the indian subcontinent will remain the true citadels of islam in the near future: the histrionic beggar and the disenfranchised "noblesse" beggar

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 20 Dec 2024 20:54
by sanman
Trump: 'Turkey Did An Unfriendly Takeover' Of Syria


Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 21 Dec 2024 17:54
by Baikul
It’s kicking off with Yemen now as they launch yet another strike at Israel.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/20/middleea ... index.html

I suspect that after Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran, it’s Yemen’s turn to FAFO.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 22 Dec 2024 17:00
by IndraD
PM Modi receives Kuwait's highest honour (mubarak al kabeer)
This is the 20th international honour given to PM Modi by a country
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/india ... st-honour/

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 22 Dec 2024 17:04
by IndraD
NATO's new poster boy Al Jolani has bounty on him from CIA removed after he changes uniform from ISIS to olive green

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07gv3j818ko

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 22 Dec 2024 17:32
by IndraD
US pilots shot down over Red Sea in ‘friendly fire’
USS Gettysburg mistakenly fired on and hit the F/A-18, the US military said, after it had been shooting at Houthi drones and missiles
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... ndly-fire/

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 23 Dec 2024 22:59
by sanman
Russia keeping bases in Syria?


Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 24 Dec 2024 08:47
by Baikul
X posting from Iran thread
Time to update this map.

Syria- Iran influence is now almost gone , close to zero. They have been supplanted largely by the Turks. With other players such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and U.S. in the mix.

Gaza Strip - with the loss of Syria, Iran ability to send weapons and materials) to Hamas via a land route is severely curtailed. At the same time Hamas itself may take years to recover, it at all

Lebanon - Hezbollah, same as Hamas. Although Shia Hezbollah may still find more resonance with Iran

Iraq: what stands out is this fellow Shia country’s reluctance to give unqualified backing to Iran’s Syrian adventure. Unlike the previous time, Iraq refused to send their forces to support Assad without specific guarantees. Iran’s influence in Iraq is clearly not that of a master or possibly even an elder brother, but slowly becoming more a relationship between independent, friendly, nations.

Yemen: only a part of Yemen, the areas dominated by the Houthis can be said to be firmly with Iran. But at next they’re an irritating (but unrelenting) pinprick, every now and then launching missions at Israel and/ or other nations ships. At the same time, one can’t say that they have yet received the full force of Israeli regards.

Bahrain: with a 40-45 percent Shia population (remaining mostly Sunni) ruled by a Sunni dynasty, Iran’s relationship has always been turbulent, its influence exercised ‘through the people’ and through its Al Ashraf proxy. A footnote in the larger scheme of things.

This those greens areas outside of Iran are either entirely gone, or an paler shade.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 27 Dec 2024 18:36
by sanman
How Syria Could Trigger A Regional War


Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 20 May 2025 22:17
by Tanaji
Resurrecting this thread…

How is it that Qatar has such an out of proportion influence in geopolitics compared to its size? They have even managed to insert themselves as mediators in the Ukraine war…

It cant simply be money. SA has more money and yet it doesnt have the same level of influence. I am aware that the Qataris have spent lot of money on propping up Al Jazeera but that cant be the only reason.. what gives?

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 21 May 2025 01:18
by drnayar
Tanaji wrote: 20 May 2025 22:17 Resurrecting this thread…

How is it that Qatar has such an out of proportion influence in geopolitics compared to its size? They have even managed to insert themselves as mediators in the Ukraine war…

It cant simply be money. SA has more money and yet it doesnt have the same level of influence. I am aware that the Qataris have spent lot of money on propping up Al Jazeera but that cant be the only reason.. what gives?
spare [free] money , smaller population, autocracy ., they have cultivated inordinate influence by sustained investments and funding in core groups and institutions all across the world esp the US ., for e.g., nearly 50 billion in US academia., endowments and all