Bharat Rakshak

g.sarkar wrote:

saip wrote:But Gautam, Jilebi is the Codeword and everyone on BRF knows.

Sirji,
The code was OK. But I was referring to the picture. Please do not look at it directly. If Helen (of Troy) had a face that launched a thousand ship, this is a face that sank a million ships. I think that the constipated face of Dimran is because of her.
Gautam

jilebi madam when she was young and pretty. Go on, click it, nothing scary here, I promise.

KLNMurthy wrote: jilebi madam when she was young and pretty. Go on, click it, nothing scary here, I promise.

Saar, you got me there...

Amber G. wrote:When Modiji entered in to the conferences hall, everyone assembled in the hall has given the standing welcome to him.! Except one guy who was not able to either sit or stand and wanted to hide. Who is this guy?

Is this for real or is it Photoshop?

hahahahahaa..immy the dimmy always wears shalwar kameez !!

vnms wrote:

KLNMurthy wrote: jilebi madam when she was young and pretty. Go on, click it, nothing scary here, I promise.

Saar, you got me there...

You must be the young generation... Years of 'Click attachment for unseen bikini photos of Anna K' saved me from this threat

Vips wrote: Is this for real or is it Photoshop?

Photoshop

Baba posted a picture of toy artillery saying ‘Boys are playing ‘
And later tweeted as next 100 hours critical for TSP
Wonder if something going to start around NaMo address in UNGA
Or something is happening on the border
Both sides?deliberaty keeping things under the wraps

Rsatchi wrote:Baba posted a picture of toy artillery saying ‘Boys are playing ‘
And later tweeted as next 100 hours critical for TSP
Wonder if something going to start around NaMo address in UNGA
Or something is happening on the border
Both sides?deliberaty keeping things under the wraps

who is BABA?

Vips wrote:

Amber G. wrote:When Modiji entered in to the conferences hall, everyone assembled in the hall has given the standing welcome to him.! Except one guy who was not able to either sit or stand and wanted to hide. Who is this guy?

Is this for real or is it Photoshop?

photo shopped

baba banaras wale !!

X Posted on the Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat Thread

Pakistan called out by US for staying mum over China's treatment of Muslims – Agencies

HIGHLIGHTS

- US has asked Pakistan to express "same level" of concern about Muslims' detentions in China as they do for Kashmir.

- Why was Imran Khan not speaking out about China, which has detained an estimated one million Uighur Muslims, US asked.

- Imran Khan, when asked about the Uighurs, declined to comment on Monday.

NEW YORK: Exposing the double standards of Pakistan, the United States has asked Pakistan to express the "same level" of concern about Muslims' detentions in China as they do for Kashmir.

Alice Wells, US acting assistant secretary for South and Central Asia, on Thursday questioned why Pakistan PM Imran Khan was not also speaking out about China, which has detained an estimated one million Uighurs and other Turkic speaking Muslims.

"...I would like to see the same level of concern expressed also about Muslims who are being detained in Western China, literally in concentration-like conditions. And so being concerned about the human rights of Muslims does extend more broadly than Kashmir, and you've seen the administration very involved here during the UN General Assembly and trying to shine a light on the horrific conditions that continue to exist for Muslims throughout China," Alice Wells said on Thursday while replying to a question about Pakistan PM's alleged concerns about Kashmir.

Wells reaction came as Pakistan has ramped up its rhetoric against India over the abrogation of the special status of Jammu and Kashmir and expressed concern over the situation of Muslims in the region. Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan had even called himself an ambassador of Kashmiri people.

However, when it comes to China's treatment of Muslims, Pakistan has been mum and when asked to comment on it, the Pakistan PM has tried to brush it aside saying that there is a lot going on in its own country.

Imran Khan, when asked about the Uighurs at a think-tank on Monday, declined to comment, saying that Pakistan had a "special relationship" with China and would only raise issues in private.

China has been condemned internationally for cracking down on the minorities living in the country. The United Nations says at least 1 million ethnic Uighurs and other Muslims have been detained in what China describes as "vocational training centres" to stamp out extremism and give people new skills.

US leads condemnation of China for “horrific” repression of Muslims

US leads condemnation Burqa or 'illegal' Islamic videos could land Uighurs in China's de-radicalisation centres of China for 'horrific' repression of Muslims The United States led more than 30 countries in condemning what it called China's "horrific campaign of repression" against Muslims in Xinjiang at an event on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly that was denounced by China.

In highlighting abuses against ethnic Uighurs and other Muslims in China, deputy secretary of state John Sullivan said on Tuesday the United Nations and its member states had "a singular responsibility to speak up when survivor after survivor recounts the horrors of state expression."

Sullivan said it was incumbent on UN member states to ensure it was able to closely monitor human rights abuses by China and added that it must seek "immediate, unhindered, and un-monitored" access to the western region of Xinjiang for the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights.

Sullivan said Tuesday's event was co-sponsored by Canada, Germany, the Netherlands and Britain, and was joined by more than 30 UN states, representatives of the European Union and more than 20 nongovernmental organisations, as well as Uighur victims.

"We invite others to join the international effort to demand and compel an immediate end to China’s horrific campaign of repression," he said. "History will judge the international community for how we respond to this attack on human rights and fundamental freedoms."

China's foreign ministry denounced the US move.

Cheers

Having achieved no international support on Kashmir, a couple of paki channels were yesterday trying to give a spin on how successful Dimran Khan's US visit has been.

They said: Pakistan ne apne ruthbe (prestige) ko badha kar liya hai, aaj usse international stage pe vazirahi (preference) mil rahi hai or Pakistan ko ek giant ke tarah dekha ja raha hai. Amm-rica or sou-dia ne pakistan ko Iran ke saath unke mazakraat (talks) karane ko or saalasi (mediation) ka ahem(important) kirdaar (role) nibhane ko kaha hai. Imran Khan is daure mein ek Statesmen ki tarah dekhe jaa rahe hai.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YSfE5kJwDk



PM Imran Khan Complete Speech at Council on Foreigh Relations USA | 23 Sep 2019

Im the dim about to have a meltdown at UNGA. Going from climate change to money laundering by the elite, anyone know the connection ?

^ Looks like Im the dim had a major meltdown at the UNGA speech!

modi modi modi modi modi ..... immy the dimmy wins another world cup and kashmir for pakis

Embarrassment to his people and to the ummah.

I know it he was going to make a pitch for $$$ and he does it by talking of all things - Climate
He said talk is not enough. There are many ideas to solve climate change but ideas without funding is mere hallucination. Spoken like a true Bhikari.

ashvin wrote:^ Looks like Im the dim had a major meltdown at the UNGA speech!

PM of the Islamic republic of paki lands will mess up a whole wide range of issues at UNGA for pet peeves. It's like someone got emotional and added but I want something because of religion but won't talk about Chinese controlled Uighur.

climate change but ideas without funding is mere hallucination. Spoken like a true Bhikari.

The keywords aren't climate or funding but hallucinations demonstrate d with ease. Should have kept away from kid like the kid who told that everyone else took away her future - including whites equal slender to all.

Dimran is taking panga with Trump by saying western leaders have created the radical islamic terrorism bogey, He also indirectly taunted US by saying big nations are not serious about climate change.

He made a cheap shot at India and Modi and gets some ovation around 2.22.30. I am sure it was orchestrated but would be good to find out if anyone other than Paki delegation clapped.

For home consumption, will fetch his some claps. Hardly anyone paid heed to his call on Kashmir evidenced by this "disappointment with the International community".

We are past the Climax Dim has promised. What next? March to the LOC perhaps.

https://theprint.in/diplomacy/erdogan-s ... es/297376/
Erdogan support for Pakistan on Kashmir at UN an outcome of downswing in India-Turkey ties
In his address at the UN Wednesday, Erdogan said the Kashmir issue had to be resolved through ‘dialogue on the basis of justice... not through collision’.
NAYANIMA BASU, 26 September, 2019
New Delhi: Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s strident speech at the UN General Assembly on Kashmir and his support for Pakistan shows that New Delhi’s relations with Ankara are on the downswing and that the Modi government has not engaged enough with the country, former diplomats said Thursday.
In his address at the UN in New York Wednesday, Erdogan said the Kashmir issue had to be resolved through “dialogue on the basis of justice, equity, and not through collision”. He added that, over the 72 years since India’s independence and Pakistan’s formation, the “Kashmir conflict” had not received adequate attention from the international community.
His speech came after a bilateral meeting between Erdogan and Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan where the scrapping of Article 370 was discussed. India has not issued a statement on Erdogan’s remarks.
“The statement made by Erdogan at the UN General Assembly has surely cast a shadow on the bilateral relationship between India and Turkey,” said M.K. Bhadrakumar, who was India’s ambassador to Turkey from 1998 to 2000.
“But this is also true that Turkey has been rhetorical on Kashmir. All we need to do at this point is engage with them,” he added. “We have become very one-dimensional since Turkey enjoys a friendly relationship with Pakistan. We are not engaging with them at all.”
.....
His silence on Uyghurs
Erdogan’s Kashmir statement stood in sharp contrast to his silence on China’s detention of Uyghur Muslims, a cause he was heard raising until last year, even as he spoke about the plight of Muslims around the world.
This, despite the fact that Turkey is the only Muslim-majority country that has direct links with the Uighurs, a Turkic ethnic group.
.....
Gautam
Any article that quotes Abhadra is flawed. But there there were some interesting things in the article.

While there will not be any material consequence to Dimran's speech, the propoganda they have consistently unleashed should be countermanded.

Firstly he creates a guilt consciousness amongst ignorant leftists and pseudo liberals of the west ready to do virtue signalling and grand standing with islamophobia. Secondly, he creates a picture of BJP govt as ultra nationalists (a terms associated with fascists and neo Nazis in the West) and lastly, he creates a false picture of untold atrocities (all without any shread of evidence) against Muslims in Kashmir and tries to make India a target of Islamic radicals all over the world and of all left loonies and ignorant wanna be liberals all over the world.

We need to counter this utterly false but highly devious propaganda. Otherwise, we will take a perception and soft power hit.

vnms wrote:

KLNMurthy wrote: jilebi madam when she was young and pretty. Go on, click it, nothing scary here, I promise.

Saar, you got me there...

I am not going to look at her picture. Even I was passable when I was young, look at me now. There is a saying in Bengali, even a bitch is beautiful in her youth. But Murthyji, it is a gallant act that you come to her defense.
Gautam

I have written this earlier in the forum. There has to be a limit as to how ugly someone can be. God Demon truly broke the mould after Shireen Mazari aka Madame Jalebi aka tractor-trailer was created.

schinnas wrote:He made a cheap shot at India and Modi and gets some ovation around 2.22.30. I am sure it was orchestrated but would be good to find out if anyone other than Paki delegation clapped.

I saw a bearded gora looking chap from "Mauritania" clapping. I thought it was Mauritius but it seems like this is a Wester African Islamic country near Morocco and Algeria. So looks like Im has his share of terrorist nation supporters.

Dimran was feroing Tasbeeh while talking with Trump. Enjoy:

Gautam

schinnas wrote:While there will not be any material consequence to Dimran's speech, the propoganda they have consistently unleashed should be countermanded.

Firstly he creates a guilt consciousness amongst ignorant leftists and pseudo liberals of the west ready to do virtue signalling and grand standing with islamophobia. Secondly, he creates a picture of BJP govt as ultra nationalists (a terms associated with fascists and neo Nazis in the West) and lastly, he creates a false picture of untold atrocities (all without any shread of evidence) against Muslims in Kashmir and tries to make India a target of Islamic radicals all over the world and of all left loonies and ignorant wanna be liberals all over the world.

We need to counter this utterly false but highly devious propaganda. Otherwise, we will take a perception and soft power hit.

Vicious Hinduphobe & aurangazb lover audrey was at new york protesting against nazii RSS & occupation of Kashmir

Imran Khan's speech at UNGA

1. Pakistan is bankrupt
2. Pakistan trains mujahideen
3. Pakistan has nukes
4. So give Kashmir, UN!

Or else you only have Islamophobia to blame for the next terrorist attack.

learned few new things from IK Niyazi's speech at UNGA
1- Modi is President of India.
2- Pakistan is poor because western banks accept money deposits from Pakistani people.
3- He can't do anything for climate change as its west's responsibility. And he has no money.
4- Terrorism started after 9/11
5- Prior to 9/11 only Hindus(Tamils) were terrorists.
6- RSS uniform is brown shirt.
7- Swalkar (Sawarkar) was RSS chief.
8- Wearing hizab is not terrorism, why it is issue for west.
9- If he will be kept in house for 55 days he will pick a gun.
10- He is new paigambar and 130 billion Muslims of the world must accept it.

schinnas wrote:
We need to counter this utterly false but highly devious propaganda. Otherwise, we will take a perception and soft power hit.

FWIW - small contribution, but required very little effort.. reporting devious propaganda (specially vile ones) on twitter is easy and even I have gotten quite a few accounts banned on twitter and it is getting even better .. (I was told, once a few accounts gets banned from your report, the algorithms gives your complaint a higher weight, so it becomes even easier .. so start with reporting some obvious - eg clear Hindu-phobic , advocating violence etc)..

US asks Pakistan to prosecute terrorists like Hafiz Saeed and MasoodAzhar – PTI

HIGHLIGHTS

- US has asked Pakistan to prosecute terrorists like Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar

- Reduction of the India-Pak tensions would depend on Islamabad's seriousness in taking action against those who engage in "cross-border infiltration": US

NEW DELHI: The US has asked Pakistan to prosecute terrorists like Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar, saying the reduction of the India-Pak tensions would depend onIslamabad's seriousness in taking action against those who engage in "cross-border infiltration".

Alice Wells, US Acting Assistant Secretary for South and Central Asia, during a special briefing during the 74th Session of the United Nations General Assembly, when asked about President Donald Trump’s offer to mediate on the Kashmir issue, said "I think Prime Minister (Narendra) Modi has made it clear his position that he's not seeking mediation."

Trump met Prime Minister Modi and Pakistan premier Imran Khan separately on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly session here this week.

The president is willing to mediate if asked by both parties, she said.

"I think what we would like to see are the conditions whereby India and Pakistan can have a constructive conversation that leads to an improvement of relations between the two nuclear powers," she said.

"And obviously, that is going to hinge off of counterterrorism, off of Pakistan's seriousness of effort in ensuring that groups don't take advantage and engage in cross-border infiltration, that there are serious steps to implement the Financial Action Task Force action plan that Pakistan has committed to, and which includes the prosecution of UN designated terrorists," Wells said.

"So whether it's Hafiz Saeed who currently is in custody and under prosecution, but also leaders of Jaish-e-Mohammed, like Masood Azhar, who long have been able to exploit their presence on Pakistani soil," she added.

Tensions between the two countries have spiked since India abrogated Article 370 of the Constitution to revoke the special status of Jammu and Kashmir in August.

India's decision evoked strong reactions from Pakistan, which downgraded diplomatic ties and expelled the Indian ambassador.

Pakistan has been trying to internationalise the Kashmir issue after India withdrew the special status of Jammu and Kashmir, but New Delhi has asserted the abrogation of Article 370 was its "internal matter".

Wells said the region's stability and economic growth has long been "unnaturally constrained" because Central Asia is not taking advantage of the natural north-south trade into India.

Pakistan is also not benefiting from living next to a 1.3 billion-person market, she said, referring to India.

The benefits of improved relations between India and Pakistan are obvious, she said.

She also criticised Khan for not speaking out against China, which has detained an estimated one million Uyghurs and other Turkic-speaking Muslims in Xinjiang province.

China is an all-weather ally of Pakistan. Beijing has often come to the rescue of Islamabad by scuttling global efforts to impose sanctions against Pakistan-based terrorists like JeM chief Azhar.

"I would like to see the same level of concern expressed also about Muslims who are being detained in Western China, literally in concentration-like conditions. And so being concerned about the human rights of Muslims does extend more broadly than Kashmir, and you've seen the administration very involved here during the UN General Assembly and trying to shine a light on the horrific conditions that continue to exist for Muslims throughout China, " Wells said.

Cheers

As funny as it seems to us who have seen a succession of Paki PMs say the same things, we have to be careful and not get complacent. Imm is probably the most PR friendly PM they have had and while we know that his speech was full of outright lies, many outside do not. His moaning could easily sway some liberal westerners who would then write articles in WaPo type rags claiming 1000000000 Moozlims are bring killed in Cashmere.

I am sure Modi/Shah have thought this through.

Is Pak amb still in Delhi?

Edit: The joker never arrived!

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‘Howdy, Modi!’ in Houston - Rustam Shah Mohmand

In an unprecedented move, the US President joined the Prime Minister of India in a stadium in Houston, Texas, and addressed more than 50,000 Indian-Americans. The event underscores the deep cultural, political, economic and military ties between the two large democracies and their enduring partnership in a troubled region.

The event is also a significant triumph for Indian diplomacy that has been able to create an appropriate environment for an American president to participate in a rally in the US that was organised by a foreign diaspora to welcome their leader. Undoubtedly, President Trump has taken into consideration the presence of tens of thousands of US citizens of Indian origin who are going to vote in the US election next year. Houston alone hosts 130,000 citizens of Indian origin.

The event which took weeks in planning is the outcome of hard work and skilful diplomacy. It also shows that rhetoric and symbolism can only play a very limited role in building a strong and robust relationship. Beyond that, it has to be based on an assessment of the objective realities and recognition of the mutual benefits that such a relationship would deliver in the short and long term.

The event almost overshadowed the visit of Prime Minister Imran Khan, who is also in New York and will deliver a speech at the General Assembly session mainly devoted to exposing India’s policy of apartheid in the disputed state of Kashmir.

The “Howdy, Modi!” event is a milestone in relations between the US and India. In recent years, the ties gained strength on the back of a US-China struggle for hegemony and control in the region of the South China Sea. The strategic partnership agreement between the US and India provides the basis for a mutually productive and robust partnership between the two countries in sectors like defence, communication, trade, investment, weapons purchase and an ever stronger political engagement.

In contrast, Pakistan has been long on symbolism and short on substance when it comes to conveying a consistent and unambiguous stance on key foreign policy issues, including Kashmir. The presence of a large number of militant outfits in Pakistan raises concerns and suspicions about Islamabad’s claims of not allowing its territory to be used against any other country. A time has come for Pakistan to dispassionately evaluate the pros and cons of having allowed such militant groups to roam about freely in the country. Islamabad has finally woken up to the reality that these groups have only harmed the country’s credibility. Some action has been taken but doubts persist whether it was for the world to see or whether there is a genuine re-appraisal of policy. If history is any guide, such non-state actors have always caused more harm and have damaged the institutional framework of the countries they operated in.

Pakistan would emerge stronger — and in the eyes of the world — become a more reliable partner in the pursuit of goals like poverty alleviation and socio-economic emancipation of its large population if it succeeds in convincing the world that it will follow a policy of zero tolerance for any militant group of whatever complexion or ideology to exist in its territory. It appears, after a cool analysis, that the rulers have realised the huge negative fallout of militant groups operating in Pakistan, and have disbanded some of these.

The “Howdy, Modi!” event should be an opportunity for Pakistan to take a critical look at some of its policies, both in the domestic arena and in the realm of external relations. Pakistan must continue to extend political and diplomatic support to the Kashmiris in their struggle to reverse the action India took in dismantling the special status of IOK. But at the same time, it must recognise that the decision of August 5 would be difficult to reverse for a government that was publicly committed to scrapping the special autonomy provisions for IOK. Pakistan must also realise that no regional country other than China will be willing to support its stance in the UN. Nor will the Islamic countries or the big powers. Islamabad must come to grips with the reality of India being a hegemonic power and powerful economy that few countries would risk damaging their relations with.

The fact that Modi’s action has won widespread support internally within India must not be ignored either. The backing of the masses, for ending the special status of IOK, has given the Modi government a tremendous boost, even though it has to be seen whether, in the long run, the policy was in India’s supreme national interests. Islamabad will have to incorporate these realities into its policy calculations. The real opposition to the move will have to come from the people of Kashmir.

If the iconic spectacle i.e. “Howdy, Modi!” is any guide, Islamabad has to reconcile with the fact that on issues such as Kashmir, it will not receive any significant support from the US or many other capitals around the world. Pakistani rulers have to be more down to earth in dealing with other nations. Global diplomacy is not about human rights; it’s about national interests, above all.

Comments : The last sentence reflected Lord Palmerston, Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston - British Prime Minister and British Foreign Minister- stating Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests. We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and these interests it is our duty to follow.

Cheers

Ganja Gets The Gist

Few point on Dimran's Speech:

- Big ego and all fanboys ensure that he didn't use a script. He faltered and lost focus couple of time, struggled and made the speech confusing at times. Plus he bungled on facts, names and event. That could be avoided completely if he had followed a written script.
- His was a reactive speech. Tried to address the radical Islam part. He had no need to respond but looks like someone convinced him that by responding to it he can take the leadership of Muslim Ummah. That part of his speech was low on facts but he used generic Islamic sentences to pander to Islamic members. This goes with the narrative that was getting promoted in last two days that Pakistan has arrived at the global stage with Imran Khan. Gave full 10 mins to this part (1/4 of the time)
- Gave nuclear threat but tried to say that its not a threat. Said that I will pick up a gun if I am confined for 55 days. Basically justified violence. Threatened the whole world.
- Again tried to reinforce the narrative equating Nazis and RSS. Pakis think that this argument is a masterstroke. This is similar to Rahul Gandhis Rafale masterstroke. Unfortunately like INC he faltered on facts including calling RSS founder GolWalker and Sarvaskar.

Whole speech can be trashed completely with a good response. Hope India uses the right to respond.

‘Right to respond’ ? For the first time in close to a decade the Indian speech didn’t even mention them at all. The PMs speech was an exercise in asserting a position of aspirational leadership . Dimrans speech was an exercise in imitating a headless chicken . Better to leave it at that .

CalvinH wrote:Few point on Dimran's Speech:

- Big ego and all fanboys ensure that he didn't use a script. He faltered and lost focus couple of time, struggled and made the speech confusing at times. Plus he bungled on facts, names and event. That could be avoided completely if he had followed a written script.
- His was a reactive speech. Tried to address the radical Islam part. He had no need to respond but looks like someone convinced him that by responding to it he can take the leadership of Muslim Ummah. That part of his speech was low on facts but he used generic Islamic sentences to pander to Islamic members. This goes with the narrative that was getting promoted in last two days that Pakistan has arrived at the global stage with Imran Khan. Gave full 10 mins to this part (1/4 of the time)
- Gave nuclear threat but tried to say that its not a threat. Said that I will pick up a gun if I am confined for 55 days. Basically justified violence. Threatened the whole world.
- Again tried to reinforce the narrative equating Nazis and RSS. Pakis think that this argument is a masterstroke. This is similar to Rahul Gandhis Rafale masterstroke. Unfortunately like INC he faltered on facts including calling RSS founder GolWalker and Sarvaskar.

Whole speech can be trashed completely with a good response. Hope India uses the right to respond.

Also note that Dimran ramled on for 31 minutes, whereas allotted time is 15 mins (Modi was ~16 mins). The red light was flashing to him all the time, but Dimran don't care. Yeh hota hai leader.