Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 21 Jun 2011 02:49

JCT goes Mahindra way, disbands football team
http://www.rediff.com/sports/report/jct ... 110620.htm
http://telegraphindia.com/1110621/jsp/s ... 140274.jsp
http://telegraphindia.com/1110621/jsp/s ... 140279.jsp

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 21 Jun 2011 13:40

oh, another old horse goes.

Meanwhile,
India Vs. Qatar,
23 June
7 PM IST
Ten Action

Somdev and Shoaib Malik's wife play today at Wimbledon.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 21 Jun 2011 20:43

For the Qatar match, its the u-23 team. And since they lost the Qatar leg 3-1, need to win by more than 3 goals in Pune. Will be wonderful if it happens.

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 22 Jun 2011 15:07

looks doubtful, Stan

Meanwhile, Somdev is through to the second round at Wimbledon. His German opponent was down a set and trailing the second before he retired hurt.

Meanwhile, I would like to apologize to all the Muslims in the world for Sania exiting in the first round.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 24 Jun 2011 23:30

http://www.rediff.com/sports/report/kps ... 110624.htm
IHF HI merger talks

More from KA:

If at all, the Indian Hockey Federation has hardened its stand. It wants voting right for its proposed patron KPS Gill. It has categorically declined to accept the name of Hockey India, quoting IHF name has been in the vogue since 80 years. Sources also indicate that the IHF side has initiated action to register FIR against the ‘illegal’ siphoning of Rs. 5 crores to foreign countries out of Delhi World Cup hosting rights. It is worthwhile to remember here that the FIH signed the world cup organizing deed first with the IHF and then after it was dissolved again with the IOA. In both declarations, the FIH announced publically the profit of the World Cup will be ploughed back to India to improve its hockey. It is a well known fact that leave along pumping the monies back, the FIH even failed to tell public openly the accounts of World Cup.

Coming back to HI and IHF merger, the latter’s logic is that while the IHF was dissolved for alleged Rs.2 lac bribe paid to their Secretary, the Rs.5 cr issues concerning the FIH and HI needs to be raked up in its true perspectives. Though the case against alleged bribe taker, former IHF Secretary, is still in courts, those who fathered Hockey India are already in jail. The IHF sources claim that their organization was dissolved not for the failure to qualify for the Olympics, but after the alleged bribe incident hit the television screen. This claim is chronologically correct. The IHF sources also claim while the progenitors of Hockey India, that is the IOA boss Suresh Kalmadi and his company, are in jail, how their nominees / protegees can be acceptable to Ministry of Sports? Besides, the IHF claims that their president has been duly elected while the Hockey India is having an interim one, after Vidhya Stokes resigned. The IHF therefore demands its president to succeed as president in the new set up. The IHF also stated clearly in its letter to Ministry that the state units created by the Hockey India are outside the purview of IHF and IWHF, and it is untenable. Those units were prompted by the jailed Kalmadi and Co. The units for the future elections will be out of IHF and IWHF, not out of third party (the Hockey India units at the state level). This is the another strong claim of the IHF. Sensing the fact that in future tournaments they might be sidelined, the IHF also staked its share of rights in the organizing committee of the forthcoming Champions Trophy. Quoting logic, the IHF faction also demanded three more slots in the Executive Committee that it is allowed for HI. The Ministry's 10-point formula allocates 16 EC members to IHF faction but 17 to HI.

The following is truly fricking bizarre:

In the recent Bhopal National Championship, we saw a foreign women seen arranging the new Cups, running here and there, organizing things / matters. First, we thought she must be from an event management company, but we were told she is Hockey India’s Chief Executive Officer. Her name is Elena Norman from Australia, same person who was active during the FIH World Cup.

So, Hockey India has acquired a CEO, which you and I simply don’t know. There is no official communication so far from Hockey India. Now the basic questions.

When was the post advertised, what are the terms and conditions, what are the minimum qualifications and experience expected, what are the delivery targets, what is the salary, what is the tenure etc? Appointment of professional CEO must rank the first of the professional steps any professional organization is expected to take. no organization is expected to take a wrong step even at this -- as Hockey India seemed to have indulged in. We have seen world over Federations advertise, screen and announce such posts. Mostly, their advertisements appear on the FIH's official website. Against this background, we fail to understand why the Hockey India, a sole and soul FIH's baby, chose to act differently and secretly. Whenever CEO changes, the FIH sends communication with the photo and professional profile of the selected person. Then why doesn't its surrogate baby, HI, do the same routine? India defies logic, and that is why despite spending four times more than most expensive of hockey countries, it scores blank on top ticket tournaments.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 25 Jun 2011 02:52

While the tour of Trinidad and Tobago would come after the World Cup qualifiers against United Arab Emirates (UAE), two more matches have been arranged as preparations before the UAE tie. On July 10, Armando Colaco’s boys would visit Male for a match against Maldives national team, followed by a friendly tie with Qatar in Doha on July 17. However, the federation’s efforts to rope in Bangladesh to play against India in Delhi in the first week of July has fallen through. Federation sources also said the proposed three-match India-Pakistan series in England could be postponed to August. India are expected to send the under-23 team in England.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110624/j ... 154311.jsp

Given the way things moved for most part of the 90 minutes here, India were definitely unlucky not to walk off the pitch with a victory. While there’s no denying the fact an own goal by Khaled Muftah gave India the lead in the 53rd minute, India should blame themselves for wasting two golden opportunities before and after this goal.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 26 Jun 2011 05:42

Gulu Ezekiel says:

The International Olympic Association's stand against India is unjustified

Is India in danger of being banned from the 2012 London Olympics? It would nating from the offices of the International Olympic Committee (IOC). India has never boycotted an Olympic Games since the Indian Olympic Association (IOA) first sent an official delegation to Amsterdam in 1928. That is a rare blemishless record considering the spate of boycotts that bedeviled the Olympics movement from 1976 to 1988.

But a crisis has been looming for the last couple of years. The UPA government first under sports minister MS Gill and now under Ajay Maken have been aggressively pushing the National Sports Development Bill that is due to be tabled in Parliament's monsoon session. The Bill seeks to limit the tenure of office-bearers of national sports federations and also fix an age limit for them of 70 years. It is public knowledge that sports federations in India have been run by a small group of officials, many of them over 70, for decades now. It is also well known that the vast majority of them happen to be politicians. And that India's abysmal record at the Olympics is a matter of shame for the world's second most populous nation.

So why are our politicians inexorably drawn to sports officialdom in the first place? It is not that too many of them have ever been active sportspersons. The reasons would appear to be threefold -holding senior positions in sports federations is an easy route to power, pelf and ego.

Never before in independent India has one witnessed the sight of politicians cutting across party lines and joining hands as they have done to protest the Bill, seeing as it threatens to curtail their reins.The aftermath of last year's Commonwealth Games has landed a number of senior IOA officials in jail on corruption charges. This, however, has not stopped those on the outside from expressing their outrage over the proposed Bill on the grounds of it infringing their autonomy, something they claim the IOC holds sacred. Or does it? India is also the world's largest democracy. And if the Bill is passed by Parliament, it would be a fine case of democracy in action.

That is more than can be said for nations across Africa, Asia and the Arab world where democracy is a distant dream. Totalitarian North Korea sees the president aka `Dear Leader', invariably a member of the Kim family, automatically take over as head of the National Olympic Committee. It is not much different in China, host of the last Olympics in Beijing, where government control over the NOC is considered de rigueur. Yet it is India that is apparently under threat of banishment from the London Olympics on the grounds of governmental interference. In fact a perusal of the latest Olympic Charter in force since February 11, 2010, shows that autonomy is not one of the `Fundamental Principles of Olympism' which are laid out prominently at the very top of the charter.

Principles 4 and 5 state that “the practice of sport is a human right“ and that “any form of discrimination with regard to a country or a person on grounds of race, religion, politics, gender or otherwise is incompatible with belonging to the Olympic movement“.It is on the issue of gender equality that the IOC finds itself on shaky ground.

For while the number of women at the Olympic Games has grown by leaps and bounds, there are still three nations that have never sent a sportswoman to the Olympics -Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Brunei. Many others, most prominently Iran, impose severe restrictions on their participation in the sporting arena. Yet the IOC has never threatened these nations with suspension.

A clear case then of double standards and hypocrisy.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 26 Jun 2011 07:07

Saina Nehwal in final of Indonesia Open Super Series

Defending champion Saina Nehwal of India will take a shot at a hat-trick of Indonesia Open Super Series titles after she stormed into the final with a fighting 21-14, 14-21, 21-17 victory over Cheng Shao Chieh of Chinese Taipei on Saturday.

In the final, she will meet third seeded Chinese Yihan Wang who made short work of compatriot Yanjiao Jiang 21-13, 21-12.

Go Saina Go

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 28 Jun 2011 00:50

Pray for a miracle? ----- S. Thyagarajan
http://www.thehindu.com/sport/hockey/article2138883.ece

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 29 Jun 2011 13:22

Michael Jack Nobbs named India's hockey coach
http://sports.ndtv.com/othersports/hock ... ckey-coach
Baljit Singh back in India camp
http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_ba ... mp_1560238

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 01 Jul 2011 02:01

Mike Nobbs has his detractors already, Rajinder Singh was seen complaining of which RS has a point. HI has not been as gracious as it has been to MN as it has been to Harendra Singh or its earlier incarnation (IHF) has been to RS. This guy has got a five year contract, much to the chagrin of Indians who have been coaches. Necessitated due to whinefests by Jose Brasa, RicC and the Gerard Rach character. But all that is only on paper. Whenever HI chooses to strike, MN is wajib ul cutlet, that is the only lesson that is constant here. 10K AUD per month with performance based incentives is a sweetener, but if just a fraction of that cash was meant for junior hickey development, it would have been so great. Anyway.... Three sideshows are Clarence Lobo, Jugraj for PC development and Md. Riaz. Wow.. thats a big contingent in terms of coach. Tigers on paper. Lets see....

Sasikiran will gain FIDE rating points (around 10-15 by my count) if he scores 1/2 in the last 2 rounds. Caruana will gain around 20 or so if he sticks to where he is now. Hou will shed 15 more points capping a wonderful phase where she has dumped around 70-80 ELO points in 1 short period. Only yesterday she seemed so close to catching KH, now she will probably be happy to come out in the top 5. Anyway, I want the world championship belt before any yakkitak. Elsewhere, Harika is playing CW chess and hope she does well. Abhijeet seems so lost in progress, etc.

Meanwhile, wimmens' 400 m relay team is a shambles. Perf enhancers is an open drain of a secret in Injun sport, but the way folks have been caught seems so stupid. Murmu has been caught twice, and only a technicality will save her from a double dip ban. Mandeep, Sini Jose, so many. I hope there is a relay team for Kobe, no there wont be.

Saina is back to normal at no. 6, onwards girl.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 01 Jul 2011 07:45

thank you Stan sir!! for excellent post and keeping us informed!! I enjoy your posts and you are doing a great job!! keep them coming.!!

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 01 Jul 2011 17:14

India's golden girls go from fame to shame

That the menace of doping has reared its ugly head in Indian sports again is a matter of no surprise. In a span of two days, five athletes have been proved to have used banned substances to improve their performance at international meets. What you did not, however, know was that 122 positive cases have been reported in an 11-month period starting from May 2010.

These numbers are authentic and have been confirmed by the National Anti Doping Agency, a body that now says will take stringent action against all guilty athletes.

Just over 10 months ago, Sini Jose and Mandeep Kaur were the toast of the nation. The two athletes were part of the famed quartet that won gold in the 4x400m relay in both the Delhi Commonwealth Games and the Asian Games in China. But with both of them having tested positive for using anabolic steroids, the reputation of Indian athletics is being torn to shreds.

Apart from Jose and Kaur, top quarter-miler Jauna Murmu, another 400m runner Tiana Mary Thomas and shot putter Sonia have returned postive for anabolic steroids in their 'A' samples that were collected by NADA during the June 11 to 14 National Inter-State Athletics Meet in Bangalore.

The Indian Athletics Federation that has provisionally suspended the two athletes - Jose and Kaur - on Wednesday has now done a u-turn raising questions about the dope test itself.

But the real question is whether systematic doping is rampant in Indian sport.

We did not need this :-(

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 01 Jul 2011 22:14

Boss, why are you surprised seeing people getting caught in doping allegations and failed tests in out-of-competition? Why???

Doping in Indian sports esp weightlifting and athletics is so rampant that I am surprised that people dont recognize the enormity of the shittiness that gets paraded out. Let me put this very categorically: almost every weightlifter to me is a suspect in doping except for a microscopic minority because the whole ecosystem breeds and oozes doping right from coaches to peers to the international scene. Most athletes dope even if they try to philosophically justify that with levelling the playing field. Two crimes dont make fair-play even if it does lead to a betterment in most athletes' life if they dope and get a bit better than where they were pre-doping. Doping starts right after people elevate themselves from inter-meet level to the state level all the way to national level. Thankfully, cycling is not popular in India, thankfully. To me, any mega performance improvement in a four to six month span is a first-cut suspect for doping. Better training methods etc. is bullshit. Biomechanics 101 says that building muscles takes a long time and huge spurts in power packed performance over a short time is an anomaly.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 05 Jul 2011 06:29

Next in line to get caught: Belarus based hi-al training that was done before OG for long distance runners. One bullshit after another is getting caught, now the blame is on the Ukrainian coach as if SAI and Indians are all uber-clean in this episode. The bozos who will believe in this kinda jingo-giri must be made of vacuum for brain.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 05 Jul 2011 17:01

Stan - do the chinis dope or not ? if yes, what kind of magic formula is used to evade tests?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 05 Jul 2011 17:05

chandigarh tribune:

Just outside Patiala NIS, dope is sold over the counter
Aman Sood
Tribune News Service

Patiala, July 4
Buying performance-enhancing drugs in this town isn’t even close tobeing difficult. On the contrary, Patiala has the dubious distinction of being the place where getting these drugs is as easy as shelling peas.

Many chemists shops, located near the National Institute of Sports (NIS) provide these drugs at cheap prices and any athlete, with a few thousand rupees in his or her pocket, can go on a shopping spree to turn their drugged dreams to reality.

Claims made by suspended Indian athletes Mandeep Kaur and Juana Murmu that they procured some supplements from the local market in Patiala may well be true as there is no check when it comes to sale of banned drugs in the vicinity of NIS.

Several sportspersons confided that banned drugs were not only being bought from the local market but were also being brought by athletes from abroad. Most of these drugs are usually prescribed by gynaecologists and other specialists.

The Tribune team that went shopping for these banned drugs procured steroids like Testosterone, Nandrolone injections, Danazol, Menabolol and Stenozolol and some growth hormones from medical stores in the city without any prescription or billing.

All the drugs procured by The Tribune are Schedule H drugs, which cannot be sold without prescriptions. “I cannot give you the bill as you need a prescription from a doctor to buy these medicines, nor can you get any discount without prescription,” said a chemist. Even the Ginseng supplements which are believed to have been brought from outside India are easily available, without anyone knowing that they contain anabolic steroids.

“While some of the athletes, who recently tested positive, could have procured the steroids from an official, others must have bought it from nearby stores without even knowing about their chemical composition,” claimed a senior coach.

“Ginseng supplements are available at some stores but the fact that they were dope positive was not known until now,” claimed a national level sportsman. As this correspondent approached a national camper, who has returned from abroad recently, he revealed that many others inside NIS were involved in doping for many years.

“You can take their collective samples a few days after they return from abroad or when they are nearing a competition. I guarantee many of them would fail the test,” he said, citing the example of a national boxer caught recently.

“The athletes must not have known about its ingredients as otherwise they would have preferred water-based foreign drugs,” he said, adding that the water-based drugs have a faster wash-out time. Many times top athletes have suffered from jaundice after taking such drugs, which prove that fakes are also being sold in the market in addition to banned drugs,” stated a sportsman,adding such athletes usually preferred treatment from private doctors for the fear of being caught.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 05 Jul 2011 17:53

Singha wrote:Stan - do the chinis dope or not ? if yes, what kind of magic formula is used to evade tests?

Not just the chinis, everyone dopes. That is a fact that one has to get used to in international sports. Most of the countries have a policy of scientific doping where they are just a bit ahead of WADA on getting caught to actually propagandizing (yes!) the virtues of some chemicals that are not declared as anabolic steroids or such types etc., to retiring people who are on the verge of getting caught and making them unavailable lest they give away the whole show, etc.

In India, NADA is hopeless and is mostly a spoon to SAI. It is not even an enforcement agency worth respecting, the list they have is so hopeless. People easily evade NADA and get caught in other places like tests done by WADA, before competitive events, etc.

Asit P · Post by **Asit P** » 05 Jul 2011 18:50

No single captain: says India's new Hockey coach

he concept of multiple leaders, pioneered by hockey legend Ric Charlesworth when he was coached the Australian women's hockey team to Olympic gold in 1996 and 2000, has been progressively adopted by Australian men's team and briefly experimented by cricket guru John Buchanan when he was with IPL team Kolkata Knight Riders.

"There will no be single captain. The idea is to have a group of 4-5 taking equal responsibility. The players take the ownership of the team and they help others. It helps in team building," India's chief coach Michael Jack Nobbs said at SAI, South Centre on Monday.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spor ... 105289.cms

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 05 Jul 2011 20:26

Before the CWG and AG, the whole middle and long distance contingent went to Belarus for hi altitude training. The reason touted in the Hindu (which I remember even now) was the water was good, the Oxygen was good. Even MSM took such arguments of good water and good O_2 hook line and sinker. Noone said "come again, please." Actually Milkha Singh said wtf, noone else bothered to follow up. In all the melee that was CWG preps and the aftermath of AG, we forgot to question such bs. Milkha Singh practiced in India before his 60 run, GS Randhawa in India before his 64 run, same for PT Usha or Shiny Wilson in 84. Same could be said for MD Valsamma, Charles Borromeo, Sriram Singh, TC Yohannan, Shiny Abraham, almost everyone practiced in the dusty crappy tracks in India. Only with Anju George has this fascination for furrin training caught everyone. The point being things were covered up so badly that it was only a matter of time before the whole edifice came crumbling down. Now MSYA is blaming the Ukrainian coach and packing it all off as a "we are holy onlee" cover-up. In fact, a few days back the Ukrainian coach had decided to quit over pay matters and some racial abuse charge. He would happily go around claiming he is being set up to cover up the pay problem. And we have pulled the strings on many a coach (including Bob Houghton, RicC and Jose Brasa) over non-consequential matters when the real problem lie elsewhere. There is a claim that the Belorussian coach will either quit or will be forced to quit. Again, what we see on the surface is all cover up after cover up while tainted coaches and secretaries keep going for ever like EBs. Even Mantris keep going for ever, even doofuses such as MS Gill who could nt know who is who in the sporting annals kept going on as if he was the next best thing in India after Gama.

In weightlifting, we know that the whole architecture right from entry level coaches to national level coaches encourage doping. That was what the Egyptian coach who quit in a huff and puff said. "You guys are so screwed up, there is no redemption if I stick around here" that was his quitting repartee. And he was right, there really is no redemption for Indian weightlifting unless the whole architecture is thrown out including coaches, secretaries, men as well as women lifters. There are enough accusations floating on our OG medal winner and the multi-medal winner in AG from Manipur. Accusations dont fly out of thin air. The whole system is going to get more bans again and again and again. This case of Mandeep Kaur, Ashwini Akkunji, Sini Jose, Jouna Murmu etc. getting caught is like crikkit's equivalent of the quartet getting caught for match-fixing. If either of them claim that they did nt know what was in the supplements, that would be the equivalent of SRT saying "ah so, I did nt know I could get out lbw." And they absolutely need nt have taken knowingly or unknowingly. They were the very best in Asia, we are no. 1 in the 1600 relay, no questions asked. What was this enhancer for and that too, a few weeks before Kobe? Seriously, this is the worst taint they could have landed the 1600 womens team and all the wins in the past Asian championships. We almost always enter the finals even in OG, so it could nt have been worser. There was this ooo la la on Ashwini Akkunji's CWG win, how non-metro Indians are coming to the limelite etc. Nothing will take that fact away, it is just a serious disservice to the propaganda machinery though.

Some article I read in the Hindu said how people even get away with testosterone supplements on the claim that their sex drive is low. Thats such a cheap low belter. They are getting performance enhancers like the ganja industry in massa under the Rx drive. Another article I read was based on the claim that NADA and SAI dont have blood doping tests and in fact, many countries dont have. Unless you have a world level event, how are you going to enforce uniform standards? If blood doping tests were done, many more Indians will be caught. Why even the mighty "came back from the grave" 7 time TdF winner is tainted. As I said, thankfully cycling has not caught the imagination of Injuns yet, I cant imagine the games that we will play if we caught up on cycling.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Jul 2011 10:21

btw TOI went around yday in chandigarh pharmacies near NIS (they are unknowing or uncaring of the scandal) and was able to purchase stanozolol no questions asked with a proper bill. the cost of 10 tabs was Rs 30 onlee. there are multiple brands available for same drug, all cheap and available OTC !

ben johnson got caught for this same drug.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Jul 2011 20:58

punjab police have promised strict action against pharmacies now

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 06 Jul 2011 22:24

Ind Railways has promised akshun against Ashwini and Sini. But all that is bs, the last time someone was caught and disciplined from the Services is really long back. Plus, noone cares except for a few sound bytes here and there. Back2normal after ddm runs after a new Maria in a week or so.

Btw, who will call the aktors who gain muskil mass at a grand old age of 50? Kamal Hassan, Aamir Khan, Surya, Vikram, everyone and his unkil builds muskil and that too overnight when their chotta bhaiyas might have gone kaput. Obviously for anyone who has done some muskil building, it is patently clear that these are all past the creatine jump. Most need Clean and clear or the desi version of these, conveniently called maanja and gaanja. Like in massa if we had drug testing for most jobs, many aktors and even aktorinis will become jobless. But then aktorinis do it for rec use rather than build their 34Bs to size.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Jul 2011 09:47

I thought the musclebound stars had home gyms and personal trainers who helped them work out like 2 hrs a day, sometimes more ? saif ali khan is another one who became a v-shaped hunk a few yrs ago, flaunted his muscle in many a mag.

infact its hard to find a normal build guy in bollywood these days. tushar kapoor, akshay khanna, ajay devgun and emraan hashmi are likely the best known skinny lads. NOBODY except ranjeet had a v-bod in older gen. dharmendra was strongly built but not sculpted and same for sunny deol...just big build lads methinks.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 07 Jul 2011 12:35

Having a home gym or a personal trainer or a good diet does not build muskils, not the type Aamir Khan showed off in Ghajini. Even working one's butt off like a trublu raakitmard will not give those muskils without protein AND steroid supplements. This is most likely true for short workouts like what these guys put in before a movie and come with an 1008-pack =)). The case of Kamal Hassan is even more eerie, the guy started building muskil when he had kids who were 18+. You should look at his physique from the late 90s or worse from the 80s, looked relatively wiry. Like Barry Bonds in his first season, a mean thug but nothing more complicated. At that age, the normal human body wont produce nuff testo to wake up with a zing thing or allow one to do a handjob everyday for a month on end, let alone build muskil mass that a 16 year old will find enviable.

The case of supplements whether they are the steroid kind or artificial testo kind or the creatine + boost kind are all de jure practice in India. Personal trainers etc. make the job of finding drugs easier. You dont have to get your hand messy in running around finding that shady pharma and the variants or get your head crazy on which gives most bang for the buck, etc. Its only the ignorant who believe in the work ethic of these buggers and how they can upturn the Himalayas with their will-power. Otoh, I have seen lotsa vegetarians (even the Jain kind with a huge number of constraints) build muskils over N years of highly disciplined work ethic, but in a short 3-6 month span, most likely there are steroids under the hood. One does nt have 2 don a brf-specialty CT hat for figuring this. Maybe Mango-ullah or other daaktirs with better exposure to the human body can confirm this.

niran · Post by **niran** » 07 Jul 2011 13:41

Stan_Savljevic wrote: Btw, who will call the aktors who gain muskil mass at a grand old age of 50? Kamal Hassan, Aamir Khan, Surya, Vikram, everyone and his unkil builds muskil and that too overnight when their chotta bhaiyas might have gone kaput. Obviously for anyone who has done some muskil building, it is patently clear that these are all past the creatine jump. Most need Clean and clear or the desi version of these, conveniently called maanja and gaanja. Like in massa if we had drug testing for most jobs, many aktors and even aktorinis will become jobless. But then aktorinis do it for rec use rather than build their 34Bs to size.

no need to pump Iron even for a day saar, there is a takneek specialty in Shalya chikitsa
something to do with plastique, the takneek is to suck out few liters omental fat(kinda like a sac of fat in abdominal cavity) using laprascop so patient has flat tummy and retains normal activity in under 5 days, then Botox injecshun are given for 6 pack looks,
carefully look at the tone of the skin around the tummy it will be smooth
hairless texture like that of a teenager which no amount of pumping or steroid will give.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Jul 2011 14:44

but what about those huge ghajini arms and back muscles. if the idea was to make him a Beast it sure succeeded. he went off whatever workout/meds he was on, as soon as shooting completed and said it hurt his body to work out so much.

http://fitnessadda.blogspot.com/2008/11 ... rkout.html

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 07 Jul 2011 19:49

Why is Sania Nehwal positioning herself into this controversy? She could be minding her business, no?

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 07 Jul 2011 20:35

Saina owes ToI big time for helping her wade through the passport controversy where her passport lapsed (due to her being a minor then) and she could have missed out on one of the SE Asian Opens if it had nt been for the muckraising by ToI on her behalf. Without the expeditious arrival of her passport (very short turnover time when compared with regular joes and janes), she could nt have landed the Open that pushed her to no. 2 in the rankings. Basically it was Saina's mistake when she was sitting on her ass instead of applying for a fresh passport past the 18 age limit.

What happens as a result is that every once a while, ToI gets exclusives from her which basically makes sensationalist drivel outta mumbo jumbo. It should not be surprising for some folks to be close to some sportsmen and women and bat as a tag team. I know of a couple of DNA India journos who are so close to former GK Baljeet Singh somuchso they essentially say what Baljeet wants the world to know. Sometimes they even go and meet parents and be a part of the extended khandaan. I had a conversation with Baljeet via this journo. I do believe quite a bit of what Baljeet had to say, but if it had not been for the journo's batting on behalf of Baljeet, his plight would have been common parlance in sports in India. The FIH (then) tried to put an end to the mess by paying the bill in Alabama.

This kinda connection is sometimes not known to people who are keen and everyone thinks that journos get news out of thin air. It is connections, connections and more connections. Insider job would not be such a bad word for it when the batting is on some normal topic. When the insider job throws muck around as happened with the passport saga, it becomes irritating. When the insider job gets to the point where some journos try to peddle the bs planted on them by RicC or GregC or of late, using insinuations such as "senior member of Team India" (as happened with the muck thrown anonymously at Daryl Harper), its a double edged sword waiting to be used on any pet hate we or I have. There are many times when crikkitirs cant get away with saying stuff without getting into the bulls-eye of ICC esp on perceived or observed umpiring biases. The same can be done using anonymous sources easily and ToI is not party to ICC statutes except for some journalistic credibility and passes at times of need (which come via the baksheesh of BCCI and not ICC).

Saina and before her, Sania, is just a clueless idiot who is getting sucked into the big game media plays in India. Saina will leave in 4-5 years, but the journo will be alive and kicking butt waiting for the next Saina to arrive. Have you ever heard a statement by Somdev on controversial stuff? From Paes or Hesh on these matters. Saina is no saint in this matter. She has used the media for her needs and now she is being used to ensure some paper circulation. Mutual back-scratching onlee. We are the folks who talk about ethics in this matter. The world at large is a cesspool with no ethics or no credibility.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 07 Jul 2011 20:43

Another bs being peddled here:

In a shocking revelation, India's former weightlifting coach Pal Singh Sandhu has alleged that Indian lifters were given drugs by the foreign coach Leonid Taranenko in 2004. Sandhu came in defence of the Indian coaches, saying they are innocent and confirmed that Belarussian coach Leonid Taranenko gave drugs to women weightlifters in 2004.

There have been no doping catches since the former coach left, you see. Its all maya onlee. Indian coaches are all saints, sants and mahants with the blessings obtained from the lotus feet of God to impart unsullen training to Indian lifters. Only people who have a lot to hide will make such bs statements and try to put the blame on others. Reality as they say is so harsh that any love for Indian weightlifting will vanish into thin air when one reads into the sub-texts of the Indian game.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 07 Jul 2011 23:34

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report/lo ... 110707.htm

Now what is the reason for Lorgat to open his mouth? Are umpires above criticism? If so, why have the umpires report at all?

Much as I hate the BCCI, this constant BCCI bashing and taking potshots at the Indian team is getting out of hand...

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 07 Jul 2011 23:51

From the cricinfo commentary at the end of WI innings in the 3rd test

The innings finishes around 2.40pm. India will start around 2.50pm, which means they will have around 20 minutes to see off before tea. Oh hang on, they have taken tea. Has the BCCI sent in a "request" that India not be asked to face those awkward 20 minutes before the tea break?

See what I mean? What was the need for the gratuitous comment?

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 08 Jul 2011 00:09

Crapinfo is wisden's spoon boy. Boss, go clikky cricbuzz, follow commentary etc there, unless you really have no reason to clikky on crapinfo. Buzz is faster in updating, is reasonably idiotic nuff to be funny for hoi polloi Injuns, and more. Stop wasting time and do a Robin Williams ass showing impersonation.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 08 Jul 2011 00:14

Hmm good point. Cricbuzz it is then.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 08 Jul 2011 00:17

But they're well worth following for the constant takleef output

They sound like the old 'CIA conspiracy!' wallas from the 70s. I like cricbuzz, but having seen the noticeable change in cricinfo's tone over the years, I've also begun to thoroughly enjoy the handwringing - quite often I read the stuff with a smirk on my face.

niran · Post by **niran** » 08 Jul 2011 12:45

Tanaji wrote:Hmm good point. Cricbuzz it is then.

has been 3 years since i paid a visit to crapinfo, and have no regrets.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 08 Jul 2011 20:28

Sini Jose, Joana Murmu, Ashwini Akkunji, Priyanka Panwar, Harikrishnan Muralidharan -- methandionone
Mandeep Kaur -- methandionone and stanozolol
Tiana Mary Thomas -- epimethandiol

5 0f the 8 have been caught for the same substance. Unless, there is believable proof that they got it from the same source (hic!), they are all going to get 2 yr bans. So forget Londonistan for the 4x400 quartet.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Jul 2011 20:44

a NIS doctor came on tv and said the director himself told him to collect samples but keep no records so no paper trail. he claims was beaten up by unknown people and left unconscious by the roadside for attempting to protest.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 09 Jul 2011 08:12

Doping traced to ginseng coach brought from China, athlete acted in 'good faith'

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 11 Jul 2011 03:27

Mayookha Johny seems like a rising star in both long and triple jumps. She has left Prajusha in her wake and ran off, literally. Wonderful, goodbye Anju George. Thanks for all that you have done to Indian athletics, and many thanks to your spouse too (the man behind the success story), time to look at the new people. India finishes Kobe at 1-2-7. Not too bad, but a fall from Guangzhou though where we were 1-4-7 with the gold coming from OP Singh in shotput. I am more worried by the poor form of folks such as Sunita Raut, Joe Abraham, OP Singh, and of course the missing 1600 quartet.

Friendly against Maldives in footer, lets see if the new coach has anything new to offer. I doubt given the whole structure that is so abysmal.

The physio for Mike Nobbs has received his visa and is now in India. A 9-man matchplay is being scheduled to up the skillset of players.

I am waiting for the DC grouping come mid-July. Assies, Japs and India will make the 16 who come for the play-off. Kazakhstan by their 3-2 shock win over Czech Rep will stay in the WG in terms of "Asian" teams. Its been wretched for India with meetings against Assieland, Sweden, US for the playoff round in the last few years. The 15 are Russia, Czech Rep, Romania, Chile, Belgium, Croatia, Austria, Japan, Australia, Brazil, Israel, Italy, South Africa, Switzerland and most likely (Ecuador).

"A whine a day keeps the doc away" mode: As Gulu Ezekiel's report here has been posted, there is a Sports bill in the offing with Ajay Maken doing the Parliament rounds to this effect. IOC is mighty pissed and is threatening to ban India from OG. This is a bill to limit the tenure of office-bearers in the wake of the Kalmadi saga. A bit belated, but nevertheless in the right direction. If only they could include every fricking sports association in town, that will be even better. But anyway... So here is my middle finger to the olympics shite. Screw you, IOC and screw your five rings.