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Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 28 Sep 2025 06:39
by A_Gupta
All three levels of Microsoft CoPilot - including GPT-5 say something like this:
Did the Indian delegation fully or partially walk out of Netanyahu's speech at the UN?
No — the Indian delegation did not walk out, either fully or partially, during Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s recent speech at the United Nations General Assembly.
Reports of the protest make clear that the walkout was staged by Arab League nations, most Muslim-majority countries, several African states, and some European delegations. The United States and a few others remained seated. Nowhere in credible coverage is India listed among those who left the hall.
India’s delegation stayed in place, consistent with its broader diplomatic approach of maintaining engagement with both Israel and Palestine rather than joining symbolic boycotts.
Google AI says:
According to reports, the Indian delegation did not walk out of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech at the UN General Assembly on September 26, 2025. The delegation remained in the assembly hall while many other nations' delegations did walk out.
Key details from the event:
Mass walkout: Dozens of delegates from multiple nations staged a walkout as Netanyahu began his address. Some news outlets reported that more than 100 diplomats from over 50 countries participated in the walkout, leaving a visibly empty hall.
Indian delegation remains: While a mass walkout occurred, India was not among the nations reported to have participated. This aligns with some Israeli accounts that noted a majority of countries, including non-participating nations, respected the Prime Minister by remaining.
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 28 Sep 2025 06:56
by gakakkad
Ambar wrote: ↑28 Sep 2025 05:36
What did we really achieve by walking out during Netanyahu’s UN speech? How many Arab countries stood with us during Pahalgam or any of the countless terror attacks on India? Our foreign policy seems like one of perpetual confusion, just like our pedestrians who neither walk on the left of the road or the right of the road, but prefer to walk right in the middle of the road with oncoming traffic!
nothing of that sort happened.
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 28 Sep 2025 07:11
by SSridhar
Ambar wrote: ↑28 Sep 2025 05:36What did we really achieve by walking out during Netanyahu’s UN speech?
Don't post anything without proof.
Here is a list of 77 countries that Israel says walked out or didn't attend.
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 28 Sep 2025 07:46
by Ambar
Here's a different list categorized by region -
https://x.com/i/grok/share/sryZ9VeUGOb2AepuhiyguSECn
And we voted in favor of Palestinian state instead of abstaining -
https://www.newsonair.gov.in/india-vote ... palestine/
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 28 Sep 2025 08:18
by gakakkad
The first is grok hallucinating. If you ask it for proof it will back track .
The later is nothing new . India's official stand now for half a century is that it supports a 2 state solution . Such a view is in line with most of the world and even an accepted view by many Israeli political parties and former pm like the late Shimon Peres .
India has skillfully stayed out of the conflict in terms of sound bites . In practice it has secretly helped Israel by selling ammunition , resources and also sending Indian workers for blue collar jobs that were previously done by Palestinians.
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 28 Sep 2025 08:25
by A_Gupta
grok - Elon Musk's AI? Yeah, it is quite crappy. I will also add - I don't know why anyone stays on X/Twitter.
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 28 Sep 2025 09:09
by A_Gupta
gakakkad wrote: ↑28 Sep 2025 08:18
The later is nothing new . India's official stand now for half a century is that it supports a 2 state solution . Such a view is in line with most of the world and even an accepted view by many Israeli political parties and former pm like the late Shimon Peres .
India also has an unofficial consulate in Ramallah, and the Palestinian Authority maintains such in Delhi as well. India aids Palestine in education and health.
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 28 Sep 2025 11:30
by chetak
Ambar wrote: ↑28 Sep 2025 05:36
What did we really achieve by walking out during Netanyahu’s UN speech? How many Arab countries stood with us during Pahalgam or any of the countless terror attacks on India? Our foreign policy seems like one of perpetual confusion, just like our pedestrians who neither walk on the left of the road or the right of the road, but prefer to walk right in the middle of the road with oncoming traffic!
Ambar ji,
Any walkout would have been discussed with the israelis beforehand by our people
This has been our normal practice, at least from 2014 onwards
This govt would never ambush them
The israelis know that India is sometimes constrained, and has to take a geopolitically nuanced position, whereas, the israelis have far more options open to them than India has, because they have normalized kinetic responses as a counter to most provocations...
They have not only provided tangible support but have also stood by us far longer than we acknowledge publicly (which makes us both selfish and ungrateful), and it's not just the Modi govt that is beholden to them.
Their help goes back to many decades before that when Indo israeli meetings were held on the quiet and very often in foreign locales.
It is India that has always benefitted much more from this relationship
India's official stand is that it supports a two state solution was taken by the congi govt, eager to appease local vote banks and under pressure from the "gelf" countries. This govt cannot now over turn this stand, but what it can do and does do, is not to be too vocal about this
One remembers those embarrassing days when the local sunnis or shias would come out on the streets, complete with slogans and violence, depending on which country, saudi or iran, needed India to follow their instructions or buy something from them that India did not particularly need at that point in time. Those days are gone for good
When push comes to shove, and assuming that it is still a Modi govt in power, they will find a way to support israel, which, BTW, has on more than one occasion, helped to pull our chestnuts out of the fire.
we owe them, period.
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 28 Sep 2025 13:37
by SSridhar
On two counts, I reject this.
1. Israel itself hasn't counted India as having walked out. After all, what more does one need? I also believe this Israeli list because even some other 'western outlets' claimed Canada walked out while it didn't and the Israeli list reflects this accurately.
2. No Indian newspaper reported that India walked out.It would have been a big news here in India had it happened, not only in mainstream media but also vernacular.
Look at the contents of the resolution. They agree with whatever we have been saying for almost three to four decades now.
In the declaration, the leaders agreed to take collective action to end the war in Gaza, to achieve a just, peaceful and lasting settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict based on the effective implementation of the two-state solution, and to build a better future for Palestinians, Israelis and all peoples of the region. The declaration called on the Israeli leadership to issue a clear public commitment to the two-state solution, including a sovereign, and viable Palestinian State.
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 00:38
by SRajesh
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/i ... 2025-09-30
How many U turns has Trump taken??
Now he is saying Isreal doesn’t want to occupy Gaza
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 01:52
by A_Gupta
Headline in The Times of Israel:
Trump thanks Netanyahu for accepting Gaza deal, says he hears Hamas wants it too, seeks ‘eternal peace in Middle East’; PM says plan ‘achieves all our war goals’
President says Arab and Muslim countries commit to demilitarize Gaza * PM says if Hamas rejects plan, Israel will 'finish the job'; says no role for Hamas or PA in post-war Gaza * White House releases Comprehensive Plan to End the Gaza Conflict * PM calls Qatar PM, apologizes for attack * Hamas official reiterates it won't disarm
Re: West Asia News and Discussions
Posted: 02 Oct 2025 17:49
by A_Gupta
AI says:
In 2011, during the Obama administration, the US asked Qatar to allow a Hamas office. This request was made to establish a channel for communication and to facilitate mediation.
Key details about the Hamas office in Qatar:
Purpose for establishment: The US wanted an indirect line of communication with Hamas to facilitate negotiations for ceasefires and hostage releases.
Relocation from Syria: The office was established in Doha in 2012, after Hamas leaders relocated from Damascus due to the Syrian civil war.
Mediation efforts: The Doha office has been instrumental in numerous US- and UN-brokered talks involving Gaza.
Qatar's rationale: Qatari officials have consistently stated that their decision to host the Hamas leadership was in response to a US request, and that the office's purpose was to facilitate diplomacy rather than provide support.
Israeli cooperation: For several years, Qatar's support for Hamas was done with the knowledge and approval of the Israeli government, which saw the arrangement as useful for containing violence.
Recent developments: In recent years, particularly following the October 7, 2023 attack, the US and other countries have pressured Qatar to reconsider hosting the Hamas office.
And of course, Israel bombed Qatar, they claim they had the green light from Trump.