Re: The Jan Lokpal Bill, Anna Hazare, and Baba Ramdev II
Posted: 20 Nov 2011 13:00
Yeddy got bail due to one lawyer. I know somebody whose family member was the lawyer.
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The Prime Minister and the higher judiciary should be kept out of the ambit of the Lokpal, according to leading business chambers body Assocham which will launch a media campaign on the issue from tomorrow.
With the Lokpal bill a priority agenda of the government in the winter session of Parliament, the industry body has suggested "the Prime Minister be kept outside the purview of the Lokpal."
Assocham is the first chamber to launch the initiative while all other industry bodies had generally hailed the anti-corruption agitation launched by Anna Hazare seeking a strong Lokpal bill.
However, Assocham said, a mechanism could be devised to scrutinise the PMO's discretionary or commercial decisions without undermining the independence of the institution.
Looks like this family business trump even hard core Patel motel business. It is all in the family.Priyanka shouldering Sonia work
Priyanka Vadra has started shouldering a major part of Sonia Gandhi's work even as Rahul Gandhi is shy of taking on additional responsibilities. Priyanka has started living in 10 Janpath for all practical purposes. She comes in the morning and leaves in the evening. On weekends she comes with her children. She is screening the Congress candidates for Uttar Pradesh Assembly elections after Rahul refused to do the job. When Ashok Gehlot landed in trouble it was Priyanka who got him a reprieve. Gehlot was camping in Delhi but Sonia Gandhi was refusing to meet him. So he met Priyanka to complain against Union Minister of State for Home Jitendra Singh. He is supposed to have told her that Singh was creating problems for him; that Singh took Rahul to riot-affected Gopalgarh without informing him. He said, Singh was trying to give the impression that Rahul was upset with the Rajasthan Chief Minister. Convinced with his arguments, Priyanka organised his meeting with Mrs Gandhi. Priyanka, already the executive director of the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation, is supposed to be officiating in her mother's place. She is spending a lot of time at the RGF. She is also communicating between Prime Minister's personal secretary Pulok Chatterjee and her mother.
Accusing the government of reducing the proposed Lokpal to an "empty tin box with no powers", Team Anna on Monday said they were surprised at the move to exclude Citizen's Charter and lower bureaucracy from the ambit of the ombudsman, contrary to a Parliament resolution.
"The government proposes to remove CBI, judiciary, citizen charter, whistle blower protection, Group C and Group D employees and CBI from Lokpal jurisdiction. Wouldn't that reduce Lokpal to an empty tin box with no powers and functions?" a Team Anna statement said.
The statement said Anna Hazare suspended his fast in August on the basis of a resolution passed by Parliament which was termed as 'Sense of House' by some people but was referred to as a 'resolution' by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in his letter to the Gandhian.
"This resolution clearly stated that three issues would be addressed through the Lokpal Bill namely Lokayuktas in states would be created through the same bill and lower bureaucracy and citizens charter would be included in the Lokpal Bill.
"However we are surprised that contrary to that resolution, the government proposes to exclude citizen charter and lower bureaucracy from Lokpal's jurisdiction and bring a weak and ineffective bill to deal with citizens grievances," it said noting that the reports filtering out of Standing Committee discussions were a cause of concern.
Demanding inclusion of Group C and D employees under the ambit of Lokpal, Team Anna said they strongly oppose the move to exclude the lower bureaucracy.
"Would this mean that they could indulge in corruption and they would not be investigated by any agency? Aren't we giving them a license to indulge in corruption? A common man has to deal with Group C and Group D employees on a daily basis. Lakhs of people who participated in this anti-corruption movement wanted a solution to this day to day corruption," they said.
On the issue of keeping CBI out of Lokpal's control, Team Anna said the Standing Committee proposal on the agency would reduce Lokpal to merely a post office - receive complaints, forward it to CBI, receive CBI's report and present it before the court.
They also demanded that criminal investigation of judges, which has been left out of Judicial Accountability Bill, should now be included in the Lokpal Bill.
Anna Hazare returned to blogging on Tuesday, a fortnight after he fell out with his former blogger, whom he accused of airing his views without his authorisation.
In his new blog, Hazare introduced a fresh agenda -- development of 100 model villages to curb corruption -- apart from the Jan Lokpal Bill, electoral reforms and decentralisation of power.
For developing 100 model villages, Hazare said they need to involve industrialists with "good character", who are willing to serve the country as some helped Mahatma Gandhi during the freedom struggle.
His new blog postings can be read on annahazaresays.indiaagainstcorruption.org and the first posting was about curbing corruption and developing model villages.
The political-apeism has therefore first family as its crowning glory. Its a jungle (made) out there in the name of secularism. Guess who is CM of secular J&K? Another dynasty in the wall of political-apeism.Philip wrote:If you have the Nerhu-Gandhi dynasty in Delhi,aped by any number of political families in the north,you have the Pawar dynasty in Maharashtra,the Karunanidhi-Maran "joint family" in Madras ,the "D.Gowda and Son" emporium in Bangalore,and the numerous "ever-Reddys" of AP and Bellary! At least in Orissa,Patnaik Jr. is perhaps least controversial of all dynastic deities.So gentlemen,join the crowd!
someone with Spine do not hide behind droogs & spirit, no?Rishirishi wrote:
Maybe Priyanka has the spine??
So Bhardwaj has called Kerala CHeif Justice as a crook and only Santosh Hedge is Kosher, this does not smell right.Mr. Bhardwaj, who has rejected former Kerala Chief Justice S R Bannurmath’s name, said he needs to make the appointment after a lot of consideration as Lokayukta is a “very important institution”, relating to probity and anti-corruption.
Mr. Bhardwaj, often at loggerheads with BJP government, said “Let them appoint Justice (Santosh) Hegde again. I will sign in a minute. Let them appoint any judge who is above board.”
I agree, but have MMS, Sonia and their cronies regretted for showing the "bravery" and "courage" in assaulting Baba Ramdev and his followers including women and children?VikasRaina wrote:This is not a good trend of assaulting public figures as much as we want to. Tomorrow the slap can be on your favorite leader (Pick your name).
Better not to stand up and cheer for such a guy.
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Hazare had said to a group of journalists at Ralegan Siddhi when he learnt about the attack on Thursday. But later he condemned the attack.
Consensus on the inclusion of Prime Minister under the ambit of Lokpal eluded a Parliamentary panel scrutinising the bill even as it prepares to circulate a draft report of the recommendations to the members in the next few days.
The Parliamentary Standing Committee on Personnel and Law and Justice scrutinising the Lokpal Bill today ended its internal deliberations with "broad consensus" on most of the issues including giving constitutional status to Lokpal.
While the government wants to give constitutional status to the ombudsman, in a bid to placate the opposition especially the BJP, Team Anna's suggestion that the same bill be used to create Lokayukta in states could also be recommended, sources said.
Government needs opposition's support to bring a constitutional amendment to give the institution a constitutional status.
Former Chief Justice of India J S Verma has told the panel that the same bill can create Lokayuktas in the states without any delay in setting up a constitutional body.
While this particular issue was not discussed today, there is a consensus that Lokpal be a constitutional body and that the constitutional amendment be used to set up Lokayuktas in states, the sources said.
A draft report of the recommendations of the panel could be circulated to the members as early as Monday.
LJP member Ram Vilas Paswan today threatened to stay away from Committee's deliberations on Lokpal Bill if a provision for reservation for SC/ST, women and members of the minority community in the ombudsman's main body is not made in the proposed legislation.![]()
Why are these Dhimmis going for external influence on Indian matters? Don't these Western countries have corruption? Do they know that US congressmen and senators can receive preferential stock allocations and they do that frequently? Do they know that US congress speaker's net worth tripled since she became speaker?Pranay wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myrnEYxu9ps
BBC World Debate - Corruption in India (Kiran Bedi, Adi Godrej, Ashwani Kumar, etc)
Incidently even the PM said that "Sawa Lakh se Aik Ladaoun Tahbe Gobind Singh Naam Kahaoun" recently some months ago.SBajwa wrote:Vikas!
Harvinder Singh says this on TV (I just heard it). "Today on the martyrdom day of Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur ji I slapped a person who has given us nothing but "Ghotala", I will do it again and again since Guru Gobind singh says "Sawa Lakh se aik ladaoun tabhe gobind singh naam kahaoun".
most indians, it seems to me, have no idea of corruption in 'first world' countries. Please bestow the gyan in appropriate thread.RamaY wrote:Why are these Dhimmis going for external influence on Indian matters? Don't these Western countries have corruption? Do they know that US congressmen and senators can receive preferential stock allocations and they do that frequently? Do they know that US congress speaker's net worth tripled since she became speaker?Pranay wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myrnEYxu9ps
BBC World Debate - Corruption in India (Kiran Bedi, Adi Godrej, Ashwani Kumar, etc)
This is like two cats and a monkey scenario. Both cats will lose.
Tempers ran high at Anna Hazare's native village when NCP supporters descended there to protest his remarks following yesterday's attack on Sharad Pawar, sparking a face-off with locals and anti-graft campaigner's aides.
Hazare, who himself arrived to face the agitated NCP workers, clarified that he had condemned the assault on Pawar, but questioned why were they so agitated over the incident and did not express the same anger when farmers were beaten.
Several slogan-shouting supporters of the NCP, which has called a bandh to protest the incident, had arrived here from adjoining areas, to demand that Hazare express regret over his controversial statement.
As the protesters marched towards the landmark Yadav Baba temple, once the abode of Hazare, the security personnel deployed there stopped them.
Soon, a large number of villagers, including women and children collected at the spot and squatted in front of the demonstrators. The NCP supporters also sat on a dharna.
A police contingent present for providing security to Hazare intervened to calm frayed tempers as the two sides readied for a face-off.
Later, Hazare arrived on the scene and said he had already denounced the attack on NCP president.
"I have already condemned the attack on Sharad Pawar," he told them.
The Gandhian, however, wanted to know why the NCP activists were so agitated over the assault on Pawar.
"Why are you so angry now? Why don't you get angry when the farmers are lathicharged?" Hazare asked.
I disagree. In a country of 1.2 Billion people with an paid-up media, no effective political set-up , these kind of expressions are ok .. even if it is against someone I follow.... as a student of Cambodian history believe me these aberrations are benign & is par for the democratic course than deadlier ones that will seem soon seem acceptable given the level of indifference and arrogance exhibited by the ruling class.chaanakya wrote:Lest us not encourage such actions , however right it may seem at times.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's wealth grows 62% to $35.2MjohneeG wrote: most indians, it seems to me, have no idea of corruption in 'first world' countries. Please bestow the gyan in appropriate thread.
60 Minutes Investigates Preferential Favorable Stock Deals Benefiting CongressThursday, June 16, 2011
What recession?
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's net worth skyrocketed 62% last year, to a jaw-dropping $35.2 million, according to financial disclosure forms released Wednesday.
Pelosi, the former House speaker, wasn't alone.
RSS rising again!! RSS=Real Sons of Soil. I am with RSS, I am the RSS.sanjeevpunj wrote:Incidently even the PM said that "Sawa Lakh se Aik Ladaoun Tahbe Gobind Singh Naam Kahaoun" recently some months ago.SBajwa wrote:Vikas!
Harvinder Singh says this on TV (I just heard it). "Today on the martyrdom day of Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur ji I slapped a person who has given us nothing but "Ghotala", I will do it again and again since Guru Gobind singh says "Sawa Lakh se aik ladaoun tabhe gobind singh naam kahaoun".
The Ideological Non Citizens at the Centre underestimated the import of their action when they sent the attack dogs after RD, ANNA, SS and others. They have repeatedly insulted every symbol and essence of Bharti Rashtra without paying the price. Even MDKC Gandhi made the same mistake assuming the RSS will roll over and die like no body. The arrow of INC, EJ, Sooper Secularist has wounded the heart and soul of Indics and now Rosh / righteous anger will rise only. The slap and Anna's first reaction signify the end of patience as Sabr ka Pyala is full and now starting to spill here and there .RamaY wrote:2G is all about RSS (Real Sons of Soil) money stolen by INC (Ideological Non-Citizens) and stashed outside (tax heavens) the nation (Bharat).
MMS has cotorie?! I thought we had Italian lady running the things.Prem wrote:Even MDKC Gandhi made the same mistake assuming the RSS will roll over and die like no body. The arrow of INC, EJ, Sooper Secularist has wounded the heart and soul of Indics and now Rosh / righteous anger will rise only. The slap and Anna's first reaction signify the end of patience as Sabr ka Pyala is full and now starting to spill here and there .
Next Harvinder Singh Incident head line,
Jabbe Baan Laggayo, tabbe Rosh Jagyo!!
MMS and his Coterie will understand this very well.
Anna Hazare has been given permission by the local civic body to stage protest at the Ramlila Maidan here from December 27 if a strong Lokpal Bill is not passed by Parliament during the ongoing Winter session.
The activists had applied to the Municipal Corporation of Delhi (MCD) two days ago for allocation of the sprawling ground with a capacity of 30,000, and sources said they have been given the permission.
They said permission had been sought to hold the protest from December 27 to January 5.
"We will hold the protest and it will be led by Hazare," a senior Team Anna member said.
However, they are yet to get a No Objection Certificate from Delhi Police without which they will not be able to hold the protest, he said, adding it was not yet decided whether Hazare will go on a fast.
"The mode of protest will be finalised later," he said.
MMS escaped from Jehlum and most likely is still suffering from Stockholm Syndrome (probably he was captured by ML people for some days during that times), but saying and you will confront a BAAJ (HAWK that prays upon defenseless sparrows) and actually confronting the HAWK is different.by SanjeevPunj
Incidently even the PM said that "Sawa Lakh se Aik Ladaoun Tahbe Gobind Singh Naam Kahaoun" recently some months ago.