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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 10:59
by SSridhar
johneeG wrote:I have a doubt:
if cheen and amirkhan can give new-clear weapons to bakis to do equal equal with dhesh, then why can't cheen and amirkhan provide the bakis with space tech to do equal equal with dhesh?

Why can't bakis send moon, mars or venus missions with the help of cheen and amirkhan?
johneeG, that's a fair question. Space exploration involves much more than just applying a coat of green paint. Anything that involves more complicated work than just painting has been found by the Americans and the Chinese as difficult to transfer to Pakiland where Milk & Honey flows all around the year and green flags flutter in gentle breeze, again all around the year.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 11:10
by Dilbu
When you eat too much left over butter chicken with pindi chana there will soon be tremendous 'inner jihad'. Only a lengthy visit to Pakistan will then cleanse you of the sins. :P

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 11:45
by JE Menon
>>JEM, your definition of inner jihad is marvellous.

While I will take credit for highlighting the subtlety of the point, the definition and point itself was made by the good doc a few posts before mine. I must say that bit of lateral thought by shiv was nothing short of genius.

>>So, what would then be an 'outer jihad' ?

Why "jihad bi saif" of course. And when that is not an immediate possibility, in line with sharia, the law minister of Pakistan may do this to articulate his personal commitment to "outer jihad"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nggu06XWTFU

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 12:29
by Ranjani Brow
Phakistan test fires Hataf-Naine 'Nasr' Nooklear capable mizzile (as expected) which can hit Islumabad when fired from Rawalpindi and is definitely a pindigenous development onree.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 13:27
by kmkraoind
Visual Karachi: From Paris of Asia, to City of Lights, to Hell on Earth- Dawn - Nadeem F. Paracha

Worth going through this big article at once, which describes how whiskey sipping rockstar Pak is becoming a hell.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 14:11
by menon s
Dr AQ Khans khuchli over India's Interplanetary space mission: ON TWITTER
@DrAQ_Khan...... "India was once a child in terms of technology, but these corrupt politicians, arrested our scientists, closed researches on Us direction"

@DrAQ_Khan......." Today India has reached the mars on 7 times less price of a Metro Bus project, whilst Nawaz visits US with 1 lac $ per day of out tax money"
These guys cannot be termed pathological liars, one needs to find a better word for them?

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 15:18
by Shaktimaan
So the Pukis have "tested" a pindigenous missile, just as some wise guru on this forum predicted 2 days ago when Mangalyaan was successful. PeeArrEff, ahead of the curve as usual!

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 16:43
by SSridhar
PM’s disqualification: SC admits petition for hearing - DT
The Supreme Court on Friday admitted a petition filed by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf’s Ishaq Khan Khakwani calling for the disqualification of Nawaz Sharif for hearing.

A bench headed by Chief Justice Nasirul Mulk would hear the petition and the hearing were fixed for September 29. Khakwani, who is a central committee leader in the PTI, had filed the petition through his counsel Advocate Irfan Qadir requesting the court to order disqualification of the prime minister for falsely stating in the National Assembly.

In the petition that he had not asked Chief of the Army Staff Gen Raheel Sharif to act as a mediator and guarantor between the government on one side and PTI Chairman Imran Khan and Pakistan Awami Tehreek chief Dr Tahirul Qadri on the other for ending the political impasse.

The petition added that the prime minister later denied in the assembly that the army was dealing with such issues without the government desiring it to do so. By making two different statements, it alleged Nawaz had tried to malign and damage the fair image of the army in violation of Article 62 (g) of the constitution.

The petition said that an army spokesman had confirmed that it was the government which had asked the army chief to play a role in resolving the standoff. This established that Nawaz Sharif had made a false statement concerning the army chief and, therefore, was liable to be proceeded against under Article 62 (f) of the constitution, it argued.

The article deals with the qualification of a member from becoming a parliamentarian if he is not sagacious, righteous and honest.
This should have been thrown out by the SC as unworthy of admission. At the most, MNAs might have moved a motion condemning the PM for misleading the Parliament. But, a case in the SC for disqualification? So, this is now the third case against Nawaz after the two murder cases?

And, this PM is going to talk in the UNGA representing his nation?

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 16:49
by SSridhar
hecky wrote:Phakistan test fires Hataf-Naine 'Nasr' Nooklear capable mizzile (as expected) which can hit Islumabad when fired from Rawalpindi . . . .
Are you sure about that, hecky? That would be a significant achievement if it can. Remember that Islamabad is two dozen Kilometres away and there are doubts about the CEP of Nasr (I have always wondered how to pronounce that 'sr' without a vowel in between)

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 17:47
by shiv
SSridhar wrote: Nasr (I have always wondered how to pronounce that 'sr' without a vowel in between)
Sridhar - simply say "ass rip, ass rip, ass rip" 200 times. Then you will get the asr part tight, I mean right.

Sorry OT :oops:

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 17:51
by rgsrini
^^ :rotfl:
Shivji,
Hopefully, one day some university will get to examine your brain, just like they did Einstein's (supposedly).

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul 2014

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 20:23
by Peregrine
Any provocation along LoC to be responded effectively: army chief

RAWALPINDI: Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif visited troops deployed in forward localities along Line of Control near Jhelum on Friday, said a statement issued by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR).

He was briefed by local commanders about the prevailing security situation along the Line of Control.

While interacting with the troops, the COAS appreciated their state of morale and operational preparedness on the front line.

The COAS expressed complete satisfaction on the state of readiness and vigil being maintained by troops.

He reiterated that any provocation along the Line of Control will be responded effectively.

The COAS paid rich tribute to the officers and men of the Pakistan Army along the Line of Control on their supreme sacrifices and determination in the defence of country.

"The entire nation felt proud of the soldiers deployed in defence of the motherland", he said.

Earlier on his arrival, the COAS was received by Lieutenant General Qamar Javed Bajwa, Corps Commander Rawalpindi Corps.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 20:49
by anupmisra
Pakis have been "testing" this hatf thingy for several years, timed to coincide with any new technology demonstration by India. I think the problem lies with its name - HATF-IX (not 9). Its actually HATFIX or "hat fix" or "hat (move and) fix (it again abdul)". They are actually trying to fix their errant missiles they got from the koreans.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 22:18
by A_Gupta
Nawaz Sharif is speaking.
http://www.un.org/en/ga/69/meetings/gadebate/

Started off with climate, elimination of poverty by 2030.
Regional stability.
Sustainable energy for all.
Build peaceful neighborhood by constructive engagement.
Resolve all outstanding issues, more dialog & diplomacy.
Respect each others' rights; mutual respect, ....
Disappointed by cancellation of foreign secy talks.
Need the dividends of peace.
UN resolution on plebiscite in J&K, many generations of them have lived under occupation.
Kashmiri women have suffered immensely.
The core issue of J&K has to be resolved, it is the responsibility of the world community.
Self-determination,....
Afghanistan is undergoing momentous transition; Pakistan stands in solidarity, blah blah.
Forging deeper bilateral relationship based on shared prosperity, ....
Pakistan has mounted operation to end terrorism...
Gaza, Israel, genocide,...
Syria, all parties should renounce violence...
"We are fighting terrorism planted on Pakistani soil". :rotfl:
"Lost 100s of billions of dollars".
"Each time a soldier falls, another takes his place". {same is true of the terrorists, not mentioned}
"Dealing with a million internally displaced people..."
"Largest contributor to UN peacekeeping troops..."
"Will support goals of nuclear non-proliferation...."
"Pakistan is not participating in any arms race..."
"New confidence building measures"...
"Highest standards of nuclear safety..."
"Mainstream partner in the non-proliferation regime...."
"Pakistan should be part of nuclear suppliers group..."
"Should be no new permanent seats in the UN Security Council..."

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 22:25
by JE Menon
OK he is going on about Kashmir. I was hoping for it. Excellent. Once again, the poor bloody idiots have fallen for the goading. Thick as bricks.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 22:29
by JE Menon
Fabulous - now he is accusing Israel of genocide. What a bunch of morons. Almost as much time on that as on J&K.

And finally, "terrorism is a global threat... we are fighting terrorism planted on Pakistan's soil". The whole assembly must be chuckling inside.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 22:30
by JE Menon
On a separate note, is the twat doing a hair transplant or what? doesn't look very successful...

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 22:48
by JE Menon
OK boys drop everything... there's really a hot number on Ornob's show; she's speaking from Lahore. Rehan something... check her out. New, haven't seen her before. We need to keep an eye on her, probably will become a fixture.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 00:02
by CRamS
I am listening to Badmaash on TimesNow. What I find interesting is his launching into Israel. Didn't ISI advice him to stay away from Israel? Why mess with Israel how ever much Abduls might like that?

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 00:11
by Anujan
I have seen much khujli because the world has ignored Israel and is talking about ISIS now. This is nothing but an attempt to rake up Israel while seeking to avoid uncomfortable questions about ISIS.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 01:51
by partha
kmkraoind wrote:Visual Karachi: From Paris of Asia, to City of Lights, to Hell on Earth- Dawn - Nadeem F. Paracha

Worth going through this big article at once, which describes how whiskey sipping rockstar Pak is becoming a hell.
So it looks like till 1947 Karachi was doing just fine then something happened.

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul 2014

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 01:57
by Peregrine
Enter the dragon
Last, but not the least, are the twin problems of religious extremism and terrorism. China has long suspected involvement of some non-state actors from Pakistan in the insurgency in its energy-rich predominantly Muslim Xinjiang province and has withdrawn its support to the implementation of the United Nations’ Kashmir resolutions. During the recent Shanghai Cooperation Council (SCO) summit in Tajikistan, when the Chinese president called for a crackdown on the ‘three evil forces’ of extremism, terrorism, and separatism, he definitely had the Xinjiang unrest uppermost in his mind
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 02:02
by KLNMurthy
partha wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:Visual Karachi: From Paris of Asia, to City of Lights, to Hell on Earth- Dawn - Nadeem F. Paracha

Worth going through this big article at once, which describes how whiskey sipping rockstar Pak is becoming a hell.
So it looks like till 1947 Karachi was doing just fine then something happened.
typical kuffar logic, jumping to unwarranted conclusions. :-)

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 02:08
by partha
http://www.dawn.com/news/1134488/metro- ... priorities
While the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) was established in 1969, the same year when humans set foot on the moon, Pakistan’s Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO) was established in 1961 – eight years before its Indian counterpart.
Dr Tariq Mustafa, a scientist at Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission’s, writes in his memoir that for this project, NASA needed to map the wind conditions at the upper atmospheric region above the Indian Ocean.

In mid-September 1961, Dr Abdus Salam and Dr Tariq Mustafa held a meeting with NASA officials in Washington. On the occasion, NASA offered help to Pakistan in the development and launching of rockets to map the atmosphere above Indian Ocean, on the condition that any data acquired from the research on upper atmosphere will be shared with NASA.
Dr Tariq Mustafa led the team working on this project. With this experimental launch, Pakistan became the third country in Asia, first in South Asia, and only the 10th country in the world to have conducted such a launch.
The Paksat-1R, launched in 2011 is Pakistan’s latest satellite, that was funded, designed, built, and launched by our friend in need, China.
Putting aside NASA and the European Space Agency, ISRO too started off with resources similar to Pakistan, and I will argue, with even lesser expertise than Pakistan.
SUPARCO was ahead of all other Asian nations in the space race, but what happened to us then?
Pakistan is now nowhere in the space race.

Pakistan is nowhere near eliminating polio.

Pakistan is nowhere in literacy.

Where is Pakistan?
:((
The current focus should’ve been on education, science, and technology, with emphasis on space technology.
Pakistan has neither eliminated poverty, nor reached Mars.
SUPARCO’s budget should be increased. It had potential in the past, and it still does! I met some great scientists from SUPARCO in a public fair once and was amazed at the enthusiasm of these people.
SUPARCO can still take the lead in the regional space program, if the government puts its attention towards it.
I am sure that if India has reached Mars in its first attempt, Pakistan will reach a new horizon too, in its first attempt, if it makes one. And who knows if that horizon is as far as Pluto?
Bilal Karim Mughal is Dawn.com staffer.
He is the co-founder of Hyderabad Astronomers Society, Pakistan. Follow him @bilalkmughal
What an article. Look at the arrogance. If SDRE India can do it, TFTA Pakistan can do it better it seems. SUPARCO can take the lead in Asia it seems. Sure, soon after solving polio problem which itself will be done after finding out how Americans found out Sheikh Osama which will be done after finding Motorma Benazir's killers which is to be done after finding who killed Liaqat Ali Khan which itself will be done after figuring out what exactly did Qauid say in that Aug 11th speech.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 02:53
by A_Gupta
partha wrote:
I am sure that if India has reached Mars in its first attempt, Pakistan will reach a new horizon too, in its first attempt, if it makes one. And who knows if that horizon is as far as Pluto?
What an article. Look at the arrogance. If SDRE India can do it, TFTA Pakistan can do it better it seems. SUPARCO can take the lead in Asia it seems. ....
This is where one should reiterate with them, Pakistan does not have enough Islam to reach a new horizon. Then watch them go down the rat hole :evil:

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 04:02
by Prem
[quote="A_Guptauote="partha"]
I am sure that if India has reached Mars in its first attempt, Pakistan will reach a new horizon too, in its first attempt, if it makes one. And who knows if that horizon is as far as Pluto?This is where one should reiterate with them, Pakistan does not have enough Islam to reach a new horizon. Then watch them go down the rat hole :evil:
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Kambakht , Dont know that Its not Kaffir Pluto but Momin Bluto which is just few blocks down the road from Uranus which Baki have explored every possible way as national past time.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 04:55
by Raja Bose
partha wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1134488/metro- ... priorities
SUPARCO’s budget should be increased. It had potential in the past, and it still does! I met some great scientists from SUPARCO in a public fair once and was amazed at the enthusiasm of these people.
Did he meet these eminent SUARCO djinn technicians and scientists in the public mela?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 05:30
by shiv
^^Boys in T shirts. Not a single shalwar. Adolescent girl uncovered. Not even one black burqa. That may not be shitland.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 05:56
by A_Gupta
^^^^ Google Image Search gives
http://ribbu.com/wp-content/uploads/201 ... 00x193.jpg

"A Monkey of a Roadside Entertainer Performs at Parsaul village in Gautam Buddha Nagar".

Also found here (scroll down)
http://www.oknation.net/blog/print.php?id=792572
"A monkey of a roadside entertainer performs at Parsaul village in Gautam Buddha Nagar district of Uttar Pradesh May 11, 2011".

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 06:34
by Kashi
Immense Khujli and takleef in the PSPians after the MOM. They were hoping for it to crash and burn so that they could gloat like Taseer.. now it's all about toilets;150% NASA, Russia funding; 30 years behind NASA, 20 years behind China and of course..if SDREs can do it, TFTAs can do one better but they have not tried because their "priorities are different"

The articles and the comments section are comedy gold!!

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 06:47
by Anujan
Indians might have reached Mars, but Pakistanis have reached the Sun!!

Why do you think it is always on fire with big explosions now and then?

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 08:43
by wig
an article by a distinguished person -pak restructuring regional strategy
Indian army commander computes the number of armed jihadis at 200 waiting along the LoC to sneak into our side of the line. 31 of the heavily armed jihadis have already managed to infiltrate.
Even when the valley was reeling under the ravages of floods, jihadis made several bids during those ten days to push as many of them across the line as they could. Most of their attempts were neutralized.
Notably bids of infiltration increased soon after Modi government took the oath of office in a function in which SAARC heads of governments, including Nawaz Sharif participated. The two prime ministers jointly spoke of containing terrorism in the region.
A gradual change in the idiom of GHQ in Rawalpindi could be discerned when perfunctory hints emanated from Islamabad that bilateral talks with India would be resumed.
To offset any talks, non-state actors in Pakistan revived Kashmir orchestration and its reverberations were to be felt along LoC. Unprovoked firing in some sensitive forward Indian posts along the LoC and even across IB in RS Pora sector assumed threatening proportions.
Pak agencies subtly scuttled foreign secretary-level meet by predicating it with Pak High Commissioner’s invitation to Kashmir separatists and secessionists for a meeting in Delhi. Pak agency scored a point over Islamabad.
Behind the curtain, Track II dialect dragged on in neutral gear.
Alarmed by the likely insistence of the new government in Delhi to meaningfully pursue bilateral talks enfolding 26/11 culprits on the one hand and the new approach theory to bilateral relations pronounced by the democratically elected government in Islamabad on the other, the army decided to settle its score with the bugbear of Pak democracy.
Military coup as in previous years was out of question. Americans wouldn’t take it, neither the Saudis.
The Army had one more reason to train its guns on Nawaz Sharif. It would not allow non-military government to treat its former Chief with disdain. Hence it pressed into service the option of mobocracy.. Logjam continues around the seat of the government.
Allowing the stalemate to linger on, the Amy, which had been making serious efforts for quite some time to draw a wedge between the two main ethnic components of Tehreek-i-Taliban-i-Pakistan (TTP), succeeded in the time-tested mantra of divide and rule. The Punjabi and Pushtun ethnic groups in TTP parted ways.
A statement of September 5 quoted the chief of Punjabi chapter of TTP, Asmatullah Muawiyah hailing from Khanewal district of Punjab, announcing his surrender to Pakistan army in Attak jail. In a three minute video he said that his group gives up operation in Pakistan in the interests of Islam and Islamic Caliphate.
But more significant part of his statement was that though his group would no more operate in Pakistan but it would actively join hands with Afghan Taliban and fight along with them shoulder to shoulder against the American propelled government in Kabul and the American presence in Afghanistan.
But shortly thereafter on 13 September, TTP Commander, Abu Baseer contradicted Muawiyah’s statement saying that he had presented himself to TTP as mujahid. He alleged that Muawiyah had and continues to have links with top Pak agencies.
Before proceeding with the subject matter in hand, a few words need to be said by way of introducing Muawiyah as terrorist commander.
TTP is an umbrella of seven militant organizations of Pakistan. Previously Asmatullah Muawiyeh was a commander of Azhar’s terrorist group of Jaish-i-Muhammad. Following differences with Jaish in the aftermath of Lal Masjid operation of 2007, Muawiyeh parted ways with Azhar and went to the tribal areas with dozens of his comrades.
He formed his faction of terrorists claiming that he was to avenge the killing of jihadis in Lal Masjid operation by Pakistani security men. He named his faction Jundu’l-Hafsa after the name of girls’ seminary Jame’ul Hafsa attached to Lal Masjid.
Jundul-Hafsa claimed many killings carried out independently. On June 22, 2013 its gunmen attacked foreign hikers at a base camp in Nanga Parbat leaving ten of them dead. It also claimed responsibility of attack on a church in Peshawar in September 2013 in which 80 Christians offering mass were killed.
Commenting on Rasool Park, Samanabad, Lahore terrorist attack, The Nation of July 14, 2012 wrote that it was carried by Punjabi Taliban who stormed a two-storey house and opened fire on Khyber Pukhtunkhwa prison department, killed 9 guardsmen and freed their comrades from the prison.
After becoming part of TTP, Muawiyeh had become the chief of its Punjabi chapter. In 2003-4, General Musharraf, the then President of Pakistan, directed the Punjabi Taliban conducting Kashmir jihad activities in Punjab to wind up. The Punjabi Taliban, comprising mostly the youth from Punjab and PoK split into two. One part migrated to Waziristan where it raised the banner against Pakistani army.
It is noteworthy that in the initial stage of drone attacks, Americans avoided attacking TTP groups in Waziristan in the hope that they would not make a common cause with Afghan Taliban. But when Pakistan declared that all TTP were the enemies of Pakistan, American drone attacks extend combat over the hideouts of Punjabi Taliban as well.
But before the American drones would pound TTP, Pakistani ISI had relocated the Afghan Taliban and Al-Qaeda elements in TTP in Waziristan to Kurram region where they enjoyed security.
The simple objective of Pakistan in categorizing all TTP as its enemy was to help disperse the Afghan Taliban either to Kurram or to safe havens in Afghanistan wherever they could find it. Then after the purge it could take on the remnants of TTP easily and hunt them down one by one.
Obviously, Kabul government took care of those elements that were forced to withdraw to Afghan territory in the face of Pakistan army’s heavy attacks on TTP which ultimately reduced it to shambles.
Having finished the TTP in Waziristan, without causing harm to such of the Afghan Taliban as had sought refuge in Waziristan against the NATO attacks, Pakistan army achieved the double objective of (a) liquidating anti-army TTP, and (b) retaining anti-Kabul lever in its hands in the shape of Kurram-based Afghan Taliban.
On the other hand, this strategy found replication in the shape of Maulvi Fazlullah, the supremo of TTP, having stationed himself in Kabul and patronizing the anti-Pakistan army elements that are temporarily located or concentrated in Afghanistan.
Until Aug 13, 2013 Punjabi chapter of TTP remained under TTP. During that period Asmatullah Muawiyeh had twice come to Indian part of Kashmir clandestinely and also travelled to Afghanistan to take stock of ground situation there. The dream of Islamic Caliphate is very much alive in the head of these jihadis.
Last year, TTP expelled Muawiyeh after he had issued statement regarding PML-N government proposal for peace talks without prior approval from central leadership. He had welcomed Nawaz Sharif’s proposal for dialogue after urging Pak militants to respond the offer.
In all probability, the inference is that Pakistan Army will, in slow degrees, induct its protected and patronized hordes of Afghan Taliban into Kashmir and thus give a new turn to Kashmir jihad. Border violations and unprovoked firing could be a precursor to that scenario.
It is not without well careful understanding that Bilawal, the scion of Bhutto house, vows to take back Kashmir whole and every inch.
In this broad and rather grossly intertwined regional strategic scenario, ISI has played the master card by winning over Muawiyeh and through him declaring ending of hostilities against Pakistan by TTP. But the story does not end there.
After all Muawiyeh would not lay down arms for nothing. The bargain has more to it than just cessation of hostilities. In his statement, Muawiyeh said that while he would work in the interests of Islam and in propagating its true teachings, he would join in fight against Kabul regime and the Americans now sitting in Kabul.
Reports are that through the instrumentality of Haqqani network, Muawiyah’s group will move to Afghanistan and join hands with the Afghan Taliban in bringing down the Kabul regime and throwing out the Americans and finally giving proper shape to the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan or the Caliphate of Khurasan.
Haqqani is an old time playboy of ISI and since long he has been basking in its sunshine.
http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/pak-restr ... -strategy/

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 09:07
by JE Menon
>>>I am sure that if India has reached Mars in its first attempt, Pakistan will reach a new horizon too,

Come on people, you know Pakistan has already beaten us to Mars in attempt number zero, which is before the first attempt, and don't forget even zero was invented by Aurangzeb Bhatti of the Indus Valley Civilisation of South Asia. So there.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 09:09
by Baikul
Mars = God of War
Pakistan = Perpetual war zone, Mars'halla
Thus, Mars == Pakistan
India only now = Mars
Thus India <<<< Pakistan.
Qabila E' Dhamaka, QED.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 09:24
by Dilbu
Peregrine wrote:Enter the dragon
Last, but not the least, are the twin problems of religious extremism and terrorism. China has long suspected involvement of some non-state actors from Pakistan in the insurgency in its energy-rich predominantly Muslim Xinjiang province and has withdrawn its support to the implementation of the United Nations’ Kashmir resolutions. During the recent Shanghai Cooperation Council (SCO) summit in Tajikistan, when the Chinese president called for a crackdown on the ‘three evil forces’ of extremism, terrorism, and separatism, he definitely had the Xinjiang unrest uppermost in his mind
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Wait.. taller than mountain sweeter than honey friend went back on its stand on cashmere issue? Oh ech and dee where are thou..

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 09:38
by chetak
How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is
To have a thankless child!

How TV dupes our public

IF today, with remote in hand, you randomly flip through channels on your TV, or browse through nearly two dozen online newspapers, you will see video clips or photos of Pakistan Air Force jets pounding targets in North Waziristan, artillery firing into the mountains, or, perhaps, some other celebration of Operation Zarb-i-Azb. But hang on! You rub your eyes. Our jets bombing Islamic fighters within the territory of this Islamic republic?

For 10 years after 9/11, Pakistanis had lived in a delusionary bubble. A majority had been brainwashed into believing that terrorism in Pakistan was the work of some “foreign hand”. So, even when various militant groups angry at Pakistan proudly claimed suicide missions against military and civilian targets, they were ignored. No Muslim could kill another Muslim, was then the prevailing logic. Surely Pakistan’s eternal enemies — India, Israel, America, or maybe even Afghanistan and Iran — were responsible.

The foreign hand myth was nurtured by overpaid and wilfully ignorant TV anchors, together with their chattering guests, to the point where it became the only truth in town. Their invited guests such as retired Gen Hamid Gul, his son Abdullah Gul, and numerous cohorts confidently pronounced that suicide bombers were uncircumcised non-Muslim agents of foreign powers. None had inspected the leftover meat.
The foreign hand myth was nurtured by overpaid and wilfully ignorant TV anchors.

Memories may be short, but readers may also recall the televised harangues of public figures ranging from comedian-minister Rehman Malik to cricketer-demagogue Imran Khan. America was then the only terrorist in the world. So, when Taliban supremo Hakeemullah Mehsud was killed by a Hellfire missile in November 2013, Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar raged furiously while Cricketer Khan suffered a near apoplectic fit. That Mr Mehsud had declared war upon the Pakistani state and personally decapitated Pakistani soldiers mattered to neither.

And then, poof, it all changed! Along came Zarb-i-Azb. Suddenly the foreign hand disappeared. Suddenly it turned out that the real enemy was the Pakistani Taliban (TTP). Suddenly the nauseating daily appearances of its supporters vanished from millions of TV screens. Suddenly popular TV anchors could not remember what they had been saying for months and years. Suddenly no one, including anguished Cricketer Khan of anti-drone fame, could see the still circling (as of three days ago) drones in our skies.

A new consensus is now in place. Manufactured to suit new conditions, it forced terrorist supporters off TV screens. But how did it happen and who ordered it? If this was a scripted change, who wrote it?

I do not think a simple answer exists, or that the change could simply have been ordered from above. The ISI/army’s psy-op against the TTP may have been helped by the arrival of a new and bolder army chief. But the full story is surely more complicated.

No military has the strength to create a national consensus by itself. Even during the Third Reich, where the Nazis could coerce and terrorise at will, they knew a plain diktat could not work on the entire German nation. Therefore propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels demanded that his 3,000 full-time subordinates at the Ministry of Popular Enlightenment and Propaganda submit, with full evidence, detailed reports about the mood of the German people. The Führer would watch anxiously, and then decide if the price of food could be raised.

Pakistan’s army is powerful but nowhere as powerful. Its ability to influence popular opinion is limited. Those who think otherwise should revisit the years around 2004 when it was exceedingly unpopular. Soldiers killed in battle in Fata would not even receive proper burial rites because village imams refused to perform their funeral prayers. They were not called, as today, shaheeds.

So what explains Pakistan’s mood swing and the media’s new tune? Hopefully someday someone will write a PhD thesis on this. Meanwhile, some insight can be gained from a seminal book, Manufacturing Consent, which explains how American public opinion is shaped to suit the needs of the American establishment. Authored by Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky, it provides an analytical framework exposing the basic institutional structures and relationships within which the US media operates. Examining case after case, the writers reveal how the media serve, and propagandise on behalf of, the powerful societal and corporate interests that control and finance them.

The search for profits, as in the US, also drives Pakistan’s TV channels. But, the difference is that the Pakistani establishment is badly fractured from within and so its directives are often contradictory. Therefore, released from all regulation as well as ethical pressures, private channels freely exploit social pathologies while suspending conscience and good sense.

This is exemplified by how they dealt with terrorism until recently. Few channels condemned atrocities that, at one point, were a daily occurrence. Moreover, they aided and abetted terrorism by conferring respectability upon terrorists. For example, until recently the correct Urdu word for terrorist — ‘dehshatgard’ — was not used on television channels. Instead, linguistically unjustified and watered-down equivalents like ‘askariat-pasand’ and ‘intiha-pasand’ were invented.

Ratings-hungry TV channels eventually brought catastrophe to Pakistan. Their popular anchors gave space and sympathy to murderers and terrorists, and broadcast every lie, rumour, and idiocy that could sell. You just have to mentally flip through some sickening images of past years: one stood outside Lal Masjid echoing the calls of the insurrectionists; another gloated over the Mumbai massacre; a female anchor seemingly instigated governor Salmaan Taseer’s murder; a fourth justified Malala Yousafzai’s shooting.

Although the flirtation of Pakistan’s private TV channels with terrorists is over for the time being, their mischief continues. For five weeks almost all channels have been giving 24/7 coverage to protests which otherwise would have long fizzled. This effectively gifts billions of rupees of advertising time to an aggrieved loser of the 2013 elections, and a mysterious cleric with an unknown agenda. Worse, by broadcasting — in fact, showcasing — the abusive language used by Cricketer Khan in attacking his opponents, the ‘free media’ reduces the quantum of civility in Pakistan every day.

The author teaches physics in Lahore and Islamabad.

Published in Dawn, September 27th , 2014

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 09:48
by Prem
CRamS wrote:I am listening to Badmaash on TimesNow. What I find interesting is his launching into Israel. Didn't ISI advice him to stay away from Israel? Why mess with Israel how ever much Abduls might like that?
There were no more than 20-25 people in UN assembly when Nawaz was making funny noises with his Fatti Awaz.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 10:30
by gandharva
the whole world was listening, when Nawaz shareef was speaking on Kashmir.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 12:43
by RCase
anupmisra wrote:Pakis have been "testing" this hatf thingy for several years, timed to coincide with any new technology demonstration by India. I think the problem lies with its name - HATF-IX (not 9). Its actually HATFIX or "hat fix" or "hat (move and) fix (it again abdul)". They are actually trying to fix their errant missiles they got from the koreans.
Anup, my inner pronounciation sounds similar to WTFs to mirror the fleeings of glee before launch and the flight trajectory over urban areas/Iran or the shores of Karachi post launch - 'Ha! :lol: The fu(ks' :( .

And of course the outer pronounciation sounds like 'Haath of Na In'.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

Posted: 27 Sep 2014 12:52
by rgosain
Isn't it haraam to explore to another planet or moon, and this might be construed as blasphamy.