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Gerard wrote:http://www.newsofinterest.tv/video_page ... _trail.php
Narrator: “.. On [October 1, 2001], the FBI discovered evidence linking the alleged Hijackers and Al-Queda by following a money trail that ended at Mohammed Atta in Florida.”
Looks like Daniel Pearl was on track of this story by going after Omar Saeed Sheikh, and was killed for this.

But what is the US's interest in burying this story? Very very intriguing indeed!
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ArmenT wrote: Article claims that Zaid Hamid is a former muj. Anyone know about this? I thought the chap is pukka RAPE class...those guys don't like to get down & dirty normally. Perhaps the author is wrong?
Actually Hamid mian publicly claims he fought against the Soviets. Ofcourse the definition of "fighting" is kind of questionable. For all we know, he went all full of ghazi fervor, got his shalwar (Musharraf Inside) chewed to shreds from a Hind's cannon and downhill skied back to Pakistan like a true ghazi.
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X Posted from the 26/11 thread.

Details from our Governments interrogation of Pakistani origin Islamic Terrorist Daood Gilani aka David Coleman Headley implicating Islamic Republic of Pakistan Government protected Islamic terrorist Hafiz Saeed in the Mumbai 26/11 attack, start to trickle out.

India Today on the subject based on the interview of our Home Secretary G.K Pillai by their associate company, Headlines Today:

Headley sings on Saeed's 26/11 role
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X Posted from the 26/11 thread.

More details from our Governments interrogation of Pakistani origin Islamic Terrorist Daood Gilani aka David Coleman Headley implicating Islamic Republic of Pakistan Government protected Islamic terrorist Hafiz Saeed in the Mumbai 26/11 attack, start to trickle out.

Hindustan Times:

No 26/11 delay: Hafiz to Headley

Economic Times:

Met Saeed twice in the run-up to Mumbai attacks: Headley
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Zardari to visit China during joint military excercise; nuke deal likely

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Worl ... 106663.cms
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SSridhar wrote:Nationalism: Inclusive Vs. Exclusive Part I
Another installment of the expose on Jinnah.
The Muslim League asserted that Indian Muslims were a separate nation by virtue of their common faith in Islam. As a nation it was entitled to the right of self-determination over territories where Muslims were in majority. Such a definition ipso facto precluded non-Muslim Bengalis, Punjabis, Pakhtuns, Sindhis, Baloch or Urdu-speakers from the nation because they were not Muslims.

When Pakistan came into being, Mohammad Ali Jinnah heroically tried to reverse the basis of state-nationalism: instead of Muslim nationalism he proposed Pakistani nationalism. The August 11, 1947 speech was just that attempt to rectify the inherent tendency of ethno-religious nationalism to exclude those who do not fit the bill according to some organic sense of community. Jinnah had no compunctions in using Islam in the election campaign in the Muslim-majority provinces of northwestern India to mobilise Muslim support for Pakistan.

He was, however, too intelligent and too much of a liberal not to understand that religious nationalism is inherently anti-minorities. Therefore, he wanted to go back to his pristine liberal convictions based on equal rights and equal citizenship. However, here he miscalculated. He believed that giving birth to an idea — that Muslims are a separate nation by virtue of faith in Islam — to achieve a political objective would not prolong the life of that idea once the objective was achieved.

The history of ideas shows that once an idea takes off it acquires a life of its own — bigger and more powerful than its originator. That is exactly what happened in Pakistan.
Character of a leader is important. Jinnah was a petty and vain person who seems to have genuinely believed that he could let the Islamist genie out of the bottle and put it back at will.
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Cost of living for expats in 214 cities around the world, according to a survey by Mercer
http://www.mercer.com/costofliving
Karachi turns out to be the cheapest city in the world for expats to live in. Wonder if it has to do with nothing to spend money on, or the fact that rent is low due to no one wanting to move in.
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shiv wrote:Question to Sridhar/Airavat/Rawngudu/whoever.

Re Anatol Lieven's latest: http://www.worldsecuritynetwork.com/sho ... e_id=18304

1. Wasn't Pakistan against the Afghan Taliban a few years ago and denying that theer was any Pakistani Taliban?

2. Weren't the Pakistani Taliban "good Taliban" and Afghan Taliban "bad Taliban"

As per Lieven there is a 400% U-turn on this?
Once upon a time Musharaf told very clearly only--you have to make a distinction between terrorists who attack the RAPE and those who are freedom fighters, i.e., attack the Yeevil Yinduz only.

The good/bad Taliban/Muj whatever could shift in name and geography (thus, AfghaTalibans can be bad today, good tomorrow, and the Pakiban vice versa) but the unchanging "achyuta" criterion for goodness / badness remains their usefulness against the Hanood.
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arun wrote:Hindustan Times:

No 26/11 delay: Hafiz to Headley
From the above,
He's a thorough professional trained by several agencies including the ISI and LeT. . . ." the sources said.
I like the implication here.
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Gagan wrote:http://www.newsofinterest.tv/video_page ... _trail.php
Narrator: “.. On [October 1, 2001], the FBI discovered evidence linking the alleged Hijackers and Al-Queda by following a money trail that ended at Mohammed Atta in Florida.”
Looks like Daniel Pearl was on track of this story by going after Omar Saeed Sheikh, and was killed for this.

But what is the US's interest in burying this story? Very very intriguing indeed!
US can't afford to have it widely known that it is making love to an entity that loves to kill the American people.
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ArmenT wrote:From WSJ
The Pakistani Indians Love to Hate

Article claims that Zaid Hamid is a former muj. Anyone know about this? I thought the chap is pukka RAPE class...those guys don't like to get down & dirty normally. Perhaps the author is wrong?
He has mentioned in several of his animated interviews that he has fought the Soviet army in Afg. I am not sure how much of it is true,could just be another bout of delirious attack.
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Pakis never miss a chance to include water in their wish-list :evil: http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jun/ ... ashmir.htm

"Any issue, whether it is Kashmir, Siachen, Sir Creek, water, any issue where progress can be made, should be made. Where it hasn't been made, we should look at ways and means how to make progress. Where progress has been made, let us build on it further," Qureshi said in a wide-ranging interaction.
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<SNIP> Meanwhile, India continues to update its air force with no conditionalities being imposed by any of its foreign suppliers. It is planning to upgrade over 50 of its forward airbases - primarily targeting Pakistan but also China. The Indian Air Chief Naik recently revealed the jointly produced advanced stealth bomber being built with the Russians. It is also planning to buy 126 multirole fighters and has earmarked $11 billion for this purpose. And no one is limiting India’s use of these systems. Only Pakistan falls prey to these debilitating condi-tionalities <SNIP>
^^^From the Shireen Mazari article - what the stupid lady fails to understand is the fact that those fancy jets TSPAF got are courtsey of wh0ring around for the Uncle - and it cannot do anything except whine....As TSP is a perennial wh0re, it will always have to keep up with these insults and taunts..but being true wh0re that they are, they will never grow a spine and say no.....there is no way their mothballed economy can afford these fancy topys for the TSPA and it's sister services.....

But the funny thing is the "==" with India....to every parklurk here - "You B#@$*@%$, we're paying for these a/c with our own hard earned money...and we will get what is best for us...... No one dare tell us about what to do and don't or we take our business elsewhere...that is why it pays to work hard and not waste time in humping ur neighbor's goat, inbreeding and thinking of ways to blow things and people up..apart from blaming everyone for your own mistakes..bloody retards"

I haven't come across a single self-respecting pakistani who said NO to these US doles inspite of the severe H&D bashing...these scum bags want the baksheesh but in style........
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ArmenT wrote:From WSJ
The Pakistani Indians Love to Hate

Article claims that Zaid Hamid is a former muj. Anyone know about this? I thought the chap is pukka RAPE class...those guys don't like to get down & dirty normally. Perhaps the author is wrong?
He is known to have fought a guy whom he thought was a Russian soldier trying to rape him. But it was a Pathan and then he gave up.
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^ who? the pathan?
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Suppiah wrote:^ who? the pathan?
No Hamid stopped struggling.
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ArmenT wrote:Cost of living for expats in 214 cities around the world, according to a survey by Mercer
http://www.mercer.com/costofliving
Karachi turns out to be the cheapest city in the world for expats to live in. Wonder if it has to do with nothing to spend money on, or the fact that rent is low due to no one wanting to move in.
A little from column A and mostly from column B. Amongst the expat community K'rachi is regarded as hardship posting.
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Dracut wrote:Pakis never miss a chance to include water in their wish-list :evil: http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jun/ ... ashmir.htm

"Any issue, whether it is Kashmir, Siachen, Sir Creek, water, any issue where progress can be made, should be made. Where it hasn't been made, we should look at ways and means how to make progress. Where progress has been made, let us build on it further," Qureshi said in a wide-ranging interaction.
Wait till the pajis start demanding for cleaner air and people with higher IQ as an equal equal.
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From the article:
A Facebook page calling for Mr. Hamid’s reinstatement has almost 1,000 fans.
Allright, "fess up BRFites. How many of you are on that list? Already missing the lal topi wallah's daily "dekho betay" comedy routines, are you?
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shiv wrote:No Hamid stopped struggling.
Pbuh from there on.
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shiv wrote:
^ who? the pathan?
No Hamid stopped struggling.
The Pathan must have been pretty hard up, if Hamid is the best he could get as far as peachy bottoms are concerned.
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Extract from the transcript of PR China Ministry of Foreign Affairs press briefing of June 29th dealing with the proposed supply of the Chashma 3 and 4 nuclear reactors in defiance of NSG rules by the PRC to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Qin Gang's Regular Press Conference on June 29, 2010

2010/06/30 ………………………..

Q: A follow-up question on Pakistani President Zardari's visit to China and China-Pakistan relations. Will leaders of the two countries talk about nuclear energy cooperation? What's more, China used to express concern over the connections between terrorist organizations in Xinjiang and those in Pakistan. Is China satisfied with the Pakistani Government's efforts to crack down on terrorism?

A: On President Zardari's visit to China, the two sides will exchange views on promoting their friendly cooperation in various fields and international and regional issues of mutual interest. The "three forces" have posed common threat and done harm to both countries and others in the region. China appreciates the firm efforts of the Pakistani Government to fight the "three forces" including terrorism and we are ready to continue to maintain close communication and cooperation with Pakistan in this regard. …………………………

Q: Will President Zardari discuss its civilian nuclear energy cooperation with the Chinese side during his visit? Will the two sides sign a new agreement on the expansion of Chashma nuclear power plant? Second, yesterday the DPRK said it will step up its nuclear deterrence. Does China think such a statement will help the situation on the Korean Peninsula?

A: On China-Pakistan relations, I am not able to tell you what specific issues will be discussed and what agreements will be signed during President Zardari's visit. The two sides will have broad and in-depth exchange of views on further promoting friendly cooperation in all fields. But I want to point out here that China-Pakistan civilian nuclear energy cooperation is completely in line with their respective obligations of international non-proliferation totally for peaceful purposes and subject to the safeguard and supervision of the IAEA. ……………………..

Q: On China-Pakistan nuclear energy cooperation, last week at the Nuclear Suppliers Group Meeting in New Zealand, several member states asked China to provide details of the cooperation project and said that China should obtain the organization's waiver before going ahead with relevant plans. Does China think it should submit the details and obtain a waiver from the Group?

A: I don't have the information about the NSG Meeting in New Zealand. But on non-proliferation and China-Pakistan civilian nuclear energy cooperation, I have already made our principle and position clear.

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The "three forces" have posed common threat and done harm to both countries and others in the region. China appreciates the firm efforts of the Pakistani Government to fight the "three forces" including terrorism and we are ready to continue to maintain close communication and cooperation with Pakistan in this regard
I wonder what the other "two forces" are which pose a "common threat" to the traller than mountains and deeper than the seas friends?
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amit wrote:
The "three forces" have posed common threat and done harm to both countries and others in the region. China appreciates the firm efforts of the Pakistani Government to fight the "three forces" including terrorism and we are ready to continue to maintain close communication and cooperation with Pakistan in this regard
I wonder what the other "two forces" are which pose a "common threat" to the traller than mountains and deeper than the seas friends?
I wonder, too.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/KG17Ad03.html
In 2006, Chinese and Afghan authorities signed an agreement of cooperation on their joint border. One of stipulations stated

Both sides agreed that terrorism constitutes an international menace, as it poses a grave threat to world peace and security. China and Afghanistan are both victims of terrorism and they both firmly oppose terrorism of any form. The Chinese side supported Afghanistan's efforts in combating terrorism and safeguarding national stability and is ready to work with the Afghan side to fight terrorism, separatism, extremism, organized crime as well as illegal immigration, drug trafficking and illegal arms trade. The Afghan side reaffirmed its strong support to the Chinese side in combating the three forces.
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^^^ and +1.

To PR China the term “Three Forces” besides terrorism includes extremism and separatism.
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The Dosa Fidayeen

In red-blooded Pakistan, kafir vegetarian food is making inroads.
* Dosas, idlis, veg thalis a rage in Pakistan, particularly in Karachi, where a string of veggie restaurants have mushroomed
* Even other restaurants add veggie dishes to their menu
* Dosas and chaat are now served at wedding receptions
* Ponderosa, Karachi’s first veg restaurant, opened 17 years ago
And now the pawki sense of entitlement
Shenaz Ramzi, who’s soon to publish a book on Pakistani cuisine. She adds a caveat, though: “Indian food has become popular in Pakistan because it as much a part of our heritage as it is of Indians.”

Ramzi says what’s exotically passed off as Indian has been an inextricable part of the cuisine of many communities—Bohras, Memons, Lucknawis, Delhiwalas, Gujaratis, Khojas and Hyderabadis—who came from India to Pakistan following the Partition. :eek: Explains Ramzi, “In a way, these dishes have been a part of Pakistan’s cuisine as well. The difference now is that while for a good many decades communities tended to live in ghettos, today, the larger cities in Pakistan have become cultural melting pots. With greater interaction, it was only a matter of time that dishes once consumed by specific communities became popular with others too.”
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What!!!
Hazrat Zaid Hamid (PBUH) is an Ahmedi??? !!!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

How dare he pretend to be Muslim in Pakistan? He's been reciting lines from the Quran all over his shows!!!
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Gagan wrote:What!!!
Hazrat Zaid Hamid (PBUH) is an Ahmedi??? !!!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

How dare he pretend to be Muslim in Pakistan? He's been reciting lines from the Quran all over his shows!!!
Gagan, some kafir might deliberately plant some info. We don't know for sure.
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Nothing surprising, but it is this terrorist abomination TSP that is stirring up trouble in Kashmir. And I can't believe that with TSP unrelenting and unremorseful in pursuing their terror strategy, MMS wants to resume kirket with those scum bags.
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As per Paki liberal sites it appears that there are two types of Ahmedis. One are the regular Qadianis and the others are "Lahore Ahmedis" who are fundoos. Hamid may be one of those.
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But didn't Zaid Hamid fight alongside the Ahmad Shah Masood lead Northern Alliance? Even his red cap is similar to the one the Northern alliance people wear. He has mentioned Ahmed Shah Masood's name more than once.

Going by that Zaid Hamid has fought alongside the group that is vitriolically anti Pakistan.

What is with this Zaid Hamid guy? He seems to attract trouble like a fool attracts bees.
First he is the mistress of Yusuf Kazzab, and is the forthcoming Prophet personally appointed by Yusuf.
Then he goes on and fights alongside Ahmed Shah Masood of all people
Then he asks his armed jihadi friends to kill the people who were opposing him, specially the leaders of the Khatam-e-Nabbuwat.
His doctor friend calls him as suffering from MDP (Maniac Depressive Psychosis). One can clearly see the features of Acute Mania on him by his demeanour.
Now it turns out that he is an Ahmedi.

This poor paki soul is deeply troubled. I won't be surprised if he had a troubled childhood or that he was err abused as a child.
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Gagan wrote:
This poor paki soul is deeply troubled. I won't be surprised if he had a troubled childhood or that he was err abused as a child.
What's the big deal in this? A lot of Paquis have this back-ground.
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A documentary about the Hunza landslide by a local filmmaker Nisar Ahmed.
On 4th of january a massive landslide hit a village at the north of Pakistan at Hunza Valley killing nineteen people and demolished a village Attabad.The landslide blocked Hunza river and an artifical lake was formed which extended upto 28 kilometers. The water submerged three main upper in the upper part of Hunza (Gojal), i.e, Aienabad, Shishkat and Gulmit. 25000 people are still stranned in the upper part of Hunza Gojal and are totally disconnected from the rest of the world.
http://vimeo.com/12940377
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Drones, Not So Much. F-16s? Yes, Please.

http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/ ... es-please/
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It is true though, all the Indian foods even eaten outside India are eventually inherited by "Pakistan".
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No kamments

Indian Army monitoring Pak successes against Taliban
Monday, June 28, 2010

By Abdul Najeeb Khan

The Indian Army is closely following Pakistan Armyís successes against the Taliban militants and al-Qaeda extremists, it was learnt.

Sources said the Indian Army was impressed with the strategy and tactics employed by the Pakistan Army, its main rival, against the insurgents in the mountainous areas of Swat and South Waziristan.

The Indians were closely looking at how Pakistan, while deploying large number of troops in the west, never lost focus on India as the main enemy and did not allow degradation of its defences against its arch rival.

They were also looking to adopt some of the Pakistan Army tactics in their fight against the Naxalites in the east. Also, the Indians want to emulate political consensus and civilian support that Pakistan Army received in its fight against the extremists.

The Pakistan Armyís spectacular successes against the Taliban militants are being admired at war colleges throughout the world. American and western dignitaries and military leaders have visited Swat and South Waziristan to learn how Pakistan Army defeated the insurgents that a large number of US and Nato troops in Afghanistan are unable to tackle.
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It is also learnt that the GOI has requested a deputation of Pakistani generals to instill professionalism in the Indian Army
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They seek approval from Indians to keep their validity in Mango Abdul's eyes.Poakies remain mental slave.
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How TSP manages to change colors like a chameloen, even paiting abject failure & humiliation as virtues is beyond disbelief. Just a few years ago, TSP would have been hard-pressed to admit that there is any such thing as extermism or terrorism emanating from its soil; yet today, it positions itself as the champion against terrorists even as it uses terrorism as an instrument of state policy against India. I doubt TSP truly believe their own delusions.
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Brad Goodman wrote:No kamments

Indian Army monitoring Pak successes against Taliban
Monday, June 28, 2010

By Abdul Najeeb Khan

The Indian Army is closely following Pakistan Armyís successes against the Taliban militants and al-Qaeda extremists, it was learnt.

Sources said the Indian Army was impressed with the strategy and tactics employed by the Pakistan Army, its main rival, against the insurgents in the mountainous areas of Swat and South Waziristan.

The Indians were closely looking at how Pakistan, while deploying large number of troops in the west, never lost focus on India as the main enemy and did not allow degradation of its defences against its arch rival.

They were also looking to adopt some of the Pakistan Army tactics in their fight against the Naxalites in the east. Also, the Indians want to emulate political consensus and civilian support that Pakistan Army received in its fight against the extremists.

The Pakistan Armyís spectacular successes against the Taliban militants are being admired at war colleges throughout the world { :roll: These guys have serious insecurity issues}. American and western dignitaries and military leaders have visited Swat and South Waziristan to learn how Pakistan Army defeated the insurgents that a large number of US and Nato troops in Afghanistan are unable to tackle.
Just a PR stunt to silence the critics. They need to check BRF to understand what Indians really think about Bakistan army :P
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