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Another == on display here ?SLAMABAD (Staff Report) – The federal government of Pakistan has decided not to accept any aid from foreign countries or private donors for earthquake-hit areas.
The decision has been made during a top level meeting chaired by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif, Federal Minister for Finance Ishaq Dar and Federal Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan was also present in the meeting.
The meeting also decided that a special relief package will be announced for the victims of earthquake after due consultation with KPK’s provincial government. A meeting will be held along with KPK top officials on Wednesday to take a decision in this regard.
During the meeting Finance Minister said he was confident that Pakistan’s own resources are enough to deal with the aftermath of earthquake, as initial survey reports suggest.
General Raheel Sharif also offered the services of Pakistan army for rehabilitation operation in affected areas.
The National Disaster Management Authority (NDMA) chief Major-Geneneral Asghar Nawaz informed the meeting that the authority was approached by certain foreign donors offering aid and that he wanted a policy decision from the prime minister whether or not to accept the foreign donations. At which Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif categorically stated that earthquake affected people will be rehabilitated by our own resources.
or is it just plain bravado for Echendee purposes onlee ; not even "acceptance " from Ummah Nations or Chini- blothers ? Maybe, Ganja Sharif will foot the bill out of his own personal coffers 
In the absence of C.C. Fair's talk, one might think that the Paki General is against non-state actors, a major change in Pakistan's policy. But C.C. Fair's notes remind one to read more carefully. The Paki General is merely saying that non-state actors must be in firm control of the state, they cannot act without state supervision. In fact, the Paki general is making the case stronger, that any jihadi act from Pakistan has to have had state sponsorship; because their policy is that jihads cannot act autonomously.shiv wrote:^^Let me compare and contrast what the Paki general says in Arun Gupta's link versus what CFair said to Indian Army officers at CLAWS....
CFair wrote:The army literature makes a very clear case about the ter ms for peace with India is: India has to accept Pakistan as an equal and they have to accept the two nation theory. So this is obviously a very hard set of pills to swallow because the two nation theory makes no sense rationally and certainly doesn’t make sense with India’s own history.
The other reason why they claim to this so ferociously is that it legitimises their plaintiff to Kashmir. There is nothing else that legitimises their claim to Kashmir. If they say the accession to India is illegitimate then they have to also accept that Baluchistan is also illegitimate. E very argument that they use to say the accession of Kashmir has enormous implications for them domestically. I f they let
go of the two nation theory they are essentially letting go of Kashmir and vice - versa . So their demand for Kashmir and their pursuit for the two nation theory are mutually reinforcing. The other thing that I thought was really interesting is that they don’t define defeat in terms of loss of territory, loss of life or the value of the territory lost... their definition of defeat is acquiescing completely. This
was explained to me by a former Army chief when I was in Pakistan in 2000 talking to them about – why in the world would you want the Kargil operation? Even a fourteen year old who plays dungeons and dragons could have gamed out Kargil and the consequences that would eventually evolve from it. The army chief said – “ if we do nothing that is to acquiesce to Indian hegemony. Therefore we always have to do something. We would rather take a calculated risk than do nothing. Because to do
nothing is to genuinely be defeated ”Paki General wrote:It is only the state’s prerogative to declare war or project an aggressive or friendly posture towards any other country. This right does not belong to any individual or community, or ‘non-state actors’. If one does not agree with a government’s stance, in a democracy it can be voted out of power. If we try and find justifications for such individuals or groups, or afford platforms for their apologists, we will not become a strong state.
That is definitely one possibility among a number of twisted thing Pakis may choose to say.sudhan wrote:Hmm.. Interesting take, Shiv ji. Let me play along this line..
If pakis are indeed Nook-nanga, why don't they claim that they are unilaterally giving up nooks and put pressure on SDREs to follow suit? They have tried something similar (You small hearted indians!de-militarize siachen! For the sake of the world piss!) when they know they are clearly at a disadvantage.
The Brigadier (Retd), a usual and sober (by Pakistani standards) contributor to DT, has made a profound statement. He says:shiv wrote:What makes him write that?SSridhar wrote:One more Paki Brigadier on the loose - DT
Pakistan is well on its way to becoming a strategic partner with China along its South Asian spur, which means it may not maintain an independent nuclear deterrence against possible Indian aggression. That will be taken care of by China
That's it. As simple as that. Ignorance is always a bliss.
It's a lie, but is he looking for a way out to explain nook-noodity?
They are bigger jingos than all of us put together. Their recent contribution is coining the term "Military-Jihadi Complex" to explain Al-Bakistan.Paul wrote:Pakistan HC in Bangalore as guest of Tashshila Foundation. This group has come up recently. Anyone knows who is funding it and why it is based in Bangalore?
Nandan NilekaniPaul wrote:Anyone knows who is funding it and why it is based in Bangalore?
Balochistan will a future Buffer behind India and Iran. When the time comes India should not make the same mistake it did in Tibet and gift this barren piece of land where not a blade of grass grows to Iran.BTW...If you look at Ralph Peters Map it shows Balochistan as part of Iran. There is a reason for this, Iran has always claimed Baloch territory as its own. In US war games sceanrio, if Paki Army collapses in case of Indian advance to Indus river, Iranian forces will cross the border to prevent any exces gains to India.
This was the agreement in 1971 f the Indian army came to Karachi.
Bet there is foreign funding, from some NGO, involved in this exercise !LAHORE, Pakistan (Reuters) - Pakistan's first specialized homicide investigation unit is promoting a radical idea: find evidence, don't plant it.
Launched last month by police in the eastern province of Punjab, the 478-strong unit pairs veterans with university graduates who had an extra year of training in forensics, report writing and interrogation.
Reforming the crumbling criminal justice system and the cash-starved, poorly trained police force is vital to Pakistan's stability. Militants and criminals commonly walk free, and citizens are doubtful of seeing justice done.
That is partly because antiquated courts rely heavily on witness testimony and evidence found at the scene, and both are easily manipulated, say police and lawyers.
Punjab police chief Inspector General Mushtaq Sukhera hopes the new unit will help put an end to the practice.
"There was some pressure to do that (plant evidence) in the past, and the courts did not really want to rely on it," said Sukhera. "With this new unit there is no need."
In most murder cases, victims' families say they know who the killer is, police say. Yet few officers are trained to collect evidence to prove it, and sometimes make it up.
A dozen senior prosecutors and police told Reuters they coached witnesses and planted evidence, but only to incriminate the guilty.
"We get the right guy by the wrong methods," one senior officer in the eastern city of Lahore told Reuters, requesting anonymity.
Without a protection program, witnesses are afraid to testify, leaving police with little choice but to coach them and plant evidence, said Hassan Abbas, author of "The Taliban Revival" and a prominent expert on police reforms.
"You can't ask someone to risk everything if they are not convinced it will make any difference," he said.
Abbas argued that the new homicide unit was not enough.
Modern crime solving methods, laws etc cannot be superimposed and/or built on the antiquated foundation of Sharia/Islamic Law;Raymond Davis, the "famous" CIA agent was"let go from jail" under Sharia Law.Another challenge for police is that Islamic laws allowing families of victims to pardon killers in exchange for cash mean the guilty can go free and the innocent may be blackmailed.
"People are losing faith in the justice system day by day," said defense lawyer Raja Ghaneem Khan.
He recently got three men acquitted after a judge ruled evidence was planted and the men were in custody when the murder occurred. They were on death row for five years before being cleared.
Even if the new unit is successful in Punjab, some killers will still walk free under Islamic laws passed in 1990 that allow pardons for cash. (point proven !)
Its a 2 days old tweet and as predicted it happened exactly like that only.
Mallikarjuna @HariHaraBhakta
Trust me, Pakis wont allow any foreign teams in earthquake zone. Its the same zone, where Pakis hide their nuclear weapons.
Of course, it was not that long back, that Poonawalla was all up for recognizing the PoK flag"But no matter what the hurdles, I will organize the Indo-Pak food festival in Pune before the year end," he said, adding that he would be inviting Pakistani singer Ghulam Ali for a music show as part of the festival.
For many decades Tando Ghulam Ali, a small town in the Badin District, has hosted one of the largest (2legged)donkey markets of the country where both buyers and sellers of this animal throng in thousands annually on the 10th Muharram.The festival continued for three days, in which three thousand donkeys of different breed from across the country were present.Since decades, the donkey market has been organised on a small scale in Badin after official patronage was granted in 2004, when the then district government of Badin authorised the Taluka Council Matli to allocate the land and imposition of taxes to organise the market.This event is now overlooked by the residents who receive the taxes both from buyers and sellers of the animals.The donkey market, which is organised like a festival, holds donkey races and other sports activities besides setting up food and ornamental items stalls.The prices of the donkeys ranged from Rs 25,000 to Rs 500,000 this year with a donkey named "Toofan" being the major attraction.The owner of the donkey refused a buyer who was offering Rs 1 million and insisted to sell the animal at Rs 1.2 million.
suar kahi ka.. religious militancy was positive he says...no wonder pakistan is a mess with such donkeys in their army.NEW DELHI: Taking a jibe at former Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf for his praise of Osama Bin Laden, National Security Adviser (NSA) Ajit Doval on Wednesday said ‘like hero, like people’.
Musharraf admitted nurturing militancy and supporting extremist groups, including the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), in the 1990s to carry out terrorist activities in Kashmir.
During an interview to Duniya Tv, Musharraf branded Jama'at-ud-Da'wah chief Hafiz Saeed and LeT leader Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi as Pakistani 'heroes' during their alleged freedom struggle in Kashmir.
“In 1990s, the freedom struggle began in Kashmir. At that time Lashkar-e-Taiba and 11 or 12 other organisations were formed. We supported them and trained them as they were fighting in Kashmir at the cost of their lives. Hafiz Saeed was our hero, as so were the Kashmiris who crossed over to this side of the border to wage Jihad,” he added.
Musharraf also branded Osama Bin Laden, Jalaluddin Haqqani, Hafiz Saeed and Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi as Pakistan's heroes during 1980s.
He also added that Pakistan had trained, funded and supported militancy to carry out its own interest in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets.
He acknowledged that Pakistan trained jihadists from all over the world and sent them to fight against Russia in Afghanistan. He said that Bin Laden, Zawahiri, Taliban and the Haqqani network were also Pakistan heroes.
However, religious militancy, which had a positive impact, has now converted into terrorism, the former president added
ramana this is a beautiful description that sums up Pakistan well. It's only drawback is not your fault but the fact that the "Westphalian nation state mindset" exists not only in CFair's worldview but in that of everyone who views Pakistan, including Indian policymakers. As I find myself growing old on BRF I realize that most people (media, policymakers, public) have no real grasp of history and tend to take today's facts and assertions as eternal reality. So when Pakistan is presented to them as a nation state they equate it with say the Netherlands of the USA and cannot imagine that a kabila could exist in this day and age.ramana wrote:CFair's approach to study Pakistan is handicapped by Westhphalian state theory.
TSP is a roving armed kabila ejected out of Hindustan. Its an armed camp situated out side India that is Bharat. See no Hindustan in the name.
Its just waiting there hoping to get an opportunity to strike and take over Red Fort.
Every camp needs enforcers to keep it going.
TSP has kabila guards who are the TSP military with Army (jihad-e-fistula), Air Farce (Fizzilya) and Navy. All have hyper jihadi components in them.
The mullas (Allah) faction are there to keep the masses in line with the kabila goals.
The civilan setup is to get Western aids and façade of Westphalian legitimacy.
The Kabila complex (guards, mullas and civilians) all prevent the masses from settling down as that will break the kabila goal of taking Hindustan. So this Toe-nation theory (see the overly large policeman), Islamic state, Martians etc. all are bokwas.
SPIEGEL: Why did you form militant underground groups to fight India in Kashmir?
Musharraf: They were indeed formed. The government turned a blind eye because they wanted India to discuss Kashmir.
SPIEGEL: It was the Pakistani security forces that trained them.
Musharraf: The West was ignoring the resolution of the Kashmir issue, which is the core issue of Pakistan. We expected the West -- especially the United States and important countries like Germany -- to resolve the Kashmir issue. Has Germany done that?
SPIEGEL: Does that give Pakistan the right to train underground fighters?
Musharraf: Yes, it is the right of any country to promote its own interests when India is not prepared to discuss Kashmir at the United Nations and is not prepared to resolve the dispute in a peaceful manner.
New Delhi: The elite Sindh Club in port city Karachi refused to host Indian High Commissioner to Pakistan TCA Raghavan on September 26, a report said on Thursday.
According to a report published in 'The Times of India', Raghavan and his wife had got an invite and when they reached the hotel for the event, they were informed that Sindh Club has decided not to host them.
The event was organised by Pakistan-India Citizens' Friendship Forum. Pakistan's founder Muhammad Ali Jinnah's grandson Liaquat Merchant is the co-chairman of the group.
The Club never gave the reason as to why it cancelled the invitation at the last moment.
Earlier this month, Pakistani singer Ghulam Ali's concert, scheduled to take place at Shanmughananda Hall in Mumbai, was cancelled after the Shiv Sena threatened to disrupt the show.
In the last few weeks, Sena has hit national headlines with its protest against Pakistani ghazal singer Ghulam Ali's concerts in Pune and Mumbai (which were consequently cancelled), ink attack on former BJP ideologue Sudheendra Kulkarni and opposition to release of former Pakistan foreign minister Khurshid Kasuri's book, as well as protest at BCCI office over the planned visit by Pakistan Cricket Board chief.
JuDLAHORE (Staff Report) – Pakistani religious leader Hafiz Saeed, who came in limelight following the 2009 Indian allegation that he was man behind 26/11 attack in Mumbai, has urged Pakistanis to quit open mixing of men and women, vulgarity, wine and other evils, while terming the Monday’s powerful earthquake a warning from Allah.
In a call for donation advertisement the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) chief has asked the people to return to Allah and seek forgiveness for their sins because such calamities are referred as tough cautions by nature.
In his message he further said whether Pakistanis are ready to quit the actions of disobedience including gambling, drinking, killing and oppression against the laden. He also added if government was ready to impose the just system of Allah instead of appeasing the so-called super powers of the world.
In the concluding part Hafiz Saeed appealed his fellow Muslims to avail from Allah’s extension and donate as much they can to Falah-e-Insaniyat Foundation (FIF), a welfare organsiation of JuD, to help those affected by earthquake.
Earlier on Monday magnitude 7.5 earthquake struck in north-eastern Afghanistan, Pakistan and parts of India according to the United States Geological Survey however the Pakistan Meteorological Department, however, said the magnitude of the earthquake was 8.1.
The quake was 196 km deep and centred 82 km south-east of Feyzabad in a remote area of Afghanistan in the Hindu Kush mountain range.
The call for donations advertisement:
In an interview with the Iranian newspaper Etemad, former Iranian President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani admitted that Tehran sought and received assistance in starting its illicit nuclear enrichment program from the notorious Pakistani nuclear bomb dealer A. Q. Khan, according to a translation published by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies on Tuesday.
Rafsanjani’s account confirms revelations, first brought to light a decade ago, that Iran had previously held secret talks with Khan. At the time, The Washington Post reported:
Today, Rafsanjani is the head of Iran’s influential Expediency Council and an ally of President Hassan Rouhani.
Shortly before the nuclear deal with Iran was announced, Rafsanjani, who is often described as a moderate, called for Israel to be “wiped off the map.”
This Brragadhiar must have read the specific remark in one Paki Newspaper that China is as strong as its weakest point Pakistan and only idiots will assume it will risk Nuclear retaliation for the sake of Poakunna Munna. New Zamindar Al Kaffir China have Purchased Pakimomins for servitude and Serfs are in the process of reconciliation with new status.SSridhar wrote:One more Paki Brigadier on the loose - DTIndia will needlessly waste effort, national resources and perhaps jeopardise its territorial integrity trying to match or oppose China. Simultaneously, Pakistan is well on its way to becoming a strategic partner with China along its South Asian spur, which means it may not maintain an independent nuclear deterrence against possible Indian aggression. That will be taken care of by China, as a threat to Pakistan will be a threat to the strategic corridor, which would be unacceptable. All that Pakistan is required to do is work out the modalities of this promising and unique alliance with clarity, as the road to enduring peace and prosperity has been reached. It is for India to choose between peace and pointless confrontation.That's it. As simple as that. Ignorance is always a bliss.
Pakistani High Commissioner dodged the issue, a Paki trait when it comes to terrorism.Political parties and security experts today reacted sharply to former Pakistan president Pervez Musharraf acknowledging that his country supported and trained terror groups like LeT saying the truth is finally out and demanded that wanted terrorists be handed over to India.
Both BJP and Congress were together in attacking Pakistan for aiding terrorists against India after Musharraf's statement. Union Minister M Venkaiah Naidu said, "For a change he spoke the truth... If they at all are really interested in fighting terror, sometimes they should also raise voice... They should really make these people available to India because they have committed heinous crimes here." He said now that Musharraf himself has made very clear that they have given support to Dawood Ibrahim and given shelter earlier, "Pakistan understands responsibility and should hand over Dawood and other people who all are required in India."
National Security Adviser Ajit Doval took a dig at Musharraf's statement saying, "Jaise hero honge, waise hi log honge" (people will always be like their heroes). When asked about it, Pakistan High Commissioner to India Abdul Basit did not respond and merely said, "I will talk about these issues later." Former Army chief V P Malik said the truth has come out now that how Musharraf was trying to deceive people both within and outside his country.
Army's retired Maj Gen G D Bakshi said there is official sanction to whatever the former Pakistan President has said and termed his statement as a "bland admission that Pakistan raised and trained the Taliban". BJP national secretary Shrikant Sharma said Pakistan has been exposed after the revelations and the party's stand towards Pakistan also stood vindicated that it has established terror factories against India. Congress leader Pramod Tiwari said after Musharraf's statement on Osama bin Laden and terror outfits, it is clear that Pakistan is the home of terrorism.
In a recent media interview, Musharraf acknowledged Pakistan supported and trained terror groups like LeT in 1990s for fanning militancy in Kashmir. The 72-year-old former military ruler also asserted that terror leaders like Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri were Pakistan's "heroes" but later became "villains". Reacting to the remarks, Union minister Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi said, "Musharraf's statement admitting support to terrorist groups is a 'confession of protectors and promoters of terrorism'," adding it has once again exposed the real face of Pakistan.
Congress leader Manish Tiwari said there is bitterness on both India and Pakistan due to Partition in which millions lost their lives. "There is a very deep and divisive hate-Pakistan sentiment in India and a hate-India sentiment in Pakistan and there are people on both sides of the divide who make capital out of it," he said.
BJP leader Sharma said India is capable of responding to Pakistan in the language it understands and asserted that anti-India activities from Pakistan will not be tolerated for long. "Pakistan stands exposed and BJP's stand towards Pakistan stands vindicated. We always knew that Pakistan has established terror factories against India and Musharraf's statement should be an eye-opener for the international community," he said.
Bakshi termed Musharraf's remarks as "not the rantings of some private individual but those of a former head of state and of a former head of Pakistan Army which actually calls the shots in Pakistan which de facto runs the state of Pakistan".
According to Malik, "This truth had to come out sooner or later. It has come out and there are more people also speaking about it. But it has come out at a time when Musharraf's own credibility is also now getting known to people. How he was able to lie not only within this own country, but outside also and how he has been trying to deceive people?"
Chinese made & controlled Nuclear Power Naukar pakistan.VKumar wrote:saw a TV coverage of a TSP reporter of Nawaz Sharif visit to USA, and his main grouse was that even though TSP is a nuclear power yet India is ignoring it by not holding talks. In one single sentence he used the words ' nuclear power' thrice! Just goes to show..
