Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 23 Jan 2010 20:51

A_Gupta wrote: There was a volleyball attack in Pakistan.

I think the discussion was about attacks inside India.
The land of the pure sure does provide a large enough playground for the purest of the pure to weed out the lesser ones.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 23 Jan 2010 21:09

Pak judiciary 'no-match' for ISI, Army as SC investigates mysterious disappearance case

Washington, Jan.23 (ANI): The Pakistan Supreme Court's crucial inquiry into the mysterious disappearance of hundreds of people post 9/11 is likely to test the judiciary's capability against the all powerful Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), which was widely referred to as a 'state within a state'.

The apex court is investigating the 'extrajudicial' detention of more than 1,000 civilians after September 11, 2001 terror attack on America. Some of the persons who were arrested during President General Pervez Musharraf's rule are still missing.

It is believed that in the years since the 2001 attacks, several hundred people suspected of links to militant groups have been held in secret detention centres and some were transferred to the United States for cash.

Relatives of those 'abducted' by the intelligence agencies are still hopeful that their dear ones would return some day.

One such woman, Amina Janjua, whose husband 'disappeared' mysteriously after 9/11 has high hopes from the judiciary, which she believes would help her to reunite with her husband.

"We're confident now. The courts are on the right track and they're making progress," The Christian Science Monitor quoted Janjua, as saying.

"This (case) is important in the sense that this would result in accountability of the intelligence agencies because intelligence agencies would be scrutinized," said Hassan Askari-Rizwi, a political analyst based in Lahore.

"The missing person's case has the potential to challenge Pakistan's security establishment, and by extension the Army, in the same way the amnesty case challenged the civilian politicians. This is happening for the first time. I don't know if they will be able to succeed," Rizvi added.

However, it is unlikely that the ISI would reveal the truth behind the illegal detentions, and experts believe that the judiciary is no match for the ISI.

"Answers provided by the ISI are likely to be unreliable. The ISI is unlikely to fully cooperate with the court, which could derail the investigation of the disappearances," said Justice Iqbal, who heads the three-member bench overseeing the case.

"They don't have the resolve or power to bring the military establishment to account," said Badar Alam, a noted Pakistani journalist.

Pakistani gunships attack car in North Waziristan

Fri Jan 22, 6:39 am ET

DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan – Pakistani army helicopters opened fire on a car in North Waziristan on Friday, killing one person in a region where the U.S. is pressing for action against al-Qaida and the Taliban, intelligence officials said.

Two other people in the vehicle were wounded in the attack on the outskirts of Miran Shah town, the officials said.

The identity of the victims was not known. The officials said the car, which had left the compound of the Tablighi Jemaat Islamic missionary group in the town, was targeted because it violated a curfew. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secrecy of their work.

Interesting pic for those who whine looking at scooter helmets
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Pakistan- ... pakistan_2

Tweets from a ex-WKK

Only beneficiary of IPL controversy is Rameez Raja. Man has been on television for three days in a row!

Interesting how many Indians have stood up for Pak players. Would it have been the same the other way round?

Would Indian players have been so upset if they were not chosen for a Pakistani tournament? Is there a lesson in that?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 23 Jan 2010 21:14

kenop wrote:
A_Gupta wrote: There was a volleyball attack in Pakistan.
I think the discussion was about attacks inside India.
The land of the pure sure does provide a large enough playground for the purest of the pure to weed out the lesser ones.

Yes, but count it as a rehearsal for the main event.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 23 Jan 2010 21:33

Brahma Chellaney on twitter wrote:CIA has done 11 drone strikes in Waziristan to avenge Khost bombing: http://ow.ly/ZGja But still no strike against Afghan Taliban leaders

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 23 Jan 2010 22:10

There is something to be read in the following recent items
1 Slowdown in the Eid Mubaraks or such exciting events
2 Conclusion of the SW operations in victory
3 R&R for the PA for next 6 months (or more?) as no more miscreants will be hunted down
4 Kiya-Nahi reaching that golden age
5 NRO related developments and Sadr-e-Mumlikat Zardari's attempts to influence people and make friends. Not to forget the Altaf/Sind aspect
6 Verbal exchanges with India
7. Mr. Phatak's bayanaat in India and Pakistan
In the normal course of events, 1-4 should mean that the PA should be making a move. 5 is one indicator of some possible movements by the PA. 6 provides the requisite enviroment. 7 provides a third dimension.
This was going on in my mind when I reached this word document (Pak Army Lucky Draw) where Kiya-Nahi is described as one of the I-don't-want-to-do types. It seems he would prefer to fade out gracefully.
There will be less entertainment on this front.
OTOH, the PA does keep on doing things it does? As when KLPD was under discussion.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 23 Jan 2010 22:19

Pakistan's army tried to oust Zardari: report

Zardari's assets in Islamabad to be seized

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 23 Jan 2010 22:43

WHAT A MAN

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 23 Jan 2010 23:32

Kati wrote:Whoa, Paki exporting IT worth $200 million? We need to see how Pak is earning these $200 million

Pakis are past masters at analytical conjectures, what ifs, hypothetical projections, would-haves/should-haves/could-haves scenarios. Their whole basis of conjecturing is tied to: They (pakis) are taller, fairer, better looking and no accent english apeakers. So, if yindoo SDRE India can earn $15Bn, the pakis should be able to at least earn 1/7th of that (or $2Bn) because that's the population ratio.

AnimeshP · Post by **AnimeshP** » 23 Jan 2010 23:32

Some paki guy (pbbly. the consul general) giving interview on local desi TV channel ...

Key points ...
- Paki army is 6th largest in the world nuke power ... how can we collapse overnight .. hain ji ???
- The TFTA Paki fauj is now laying down lives in South Waziristan. This is the same Fauj that was there in 1965 (wonder which fauj was there in 1971

)
- Casualties in SW ops are higher than 1965 and 1971 combined (wonder if the number of TFTA surrendering is higher too)
- PIA is the best airline .. so please travel on PIA onlee
- Paki consulate has been renovated so that when any Paki comes in they get the authentic "Pakistan ki khushboo"

- To the expat Pakis - Pakistan ki khushboo (there's that word again) apne gharon me rakhiye (speak Urdu boliye, remember Qaid and remember Allama-Iqbal)

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 24 Jan 2010 00:08

Just when I thought Indian oupouring of sympathy for rejection of Paki terrorists from IPL3 can't get any worse, here come Sidhu of all people. I think he should stick to catchy, funny Sidhuisms from the commentary box instead of his secularism BS.

AnimeshP · Post by **AnimeshP** » 24 Jan 2010 00:10

Kati wrote:Whoa, Paki exporting IT worth $200 million?
A person who recently returned from bangladesh (posted there by
an indian IT co. to train BD-ITians) commented that BD is better
skilled and better organized than paki. It is just a matter of time
that due to better political climate Indians cos will set up shops
in BD. There are many reasons including educated women are
in good numbers, ready to join the workforce, highly skilled, and
socio-economic conditions are just like Kolkata or Bangalore.

Wwe need to see how Pak is earning these $200 million, who they are
exporting their IT-goods. There is a good possibility that many
It cos are just fronts for D-company, and they are laundering
black money (narcotics) showing that it is legally earned money
thru IT export.

Or it could be a simple accounting trick taught to them by their tarrel-than-mountain-friends to the east ...

R_Kumar · Post by **R_Kumar** » 24 Jan 2010 01:08

AnimeshP wrote:
Or it could be a simple accounting trick taught to them by their tarrel-than-mountain-friends to the east ...

You are right. They have been trying very hard to come up with the number so that they can get some respect.

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 24 Jan 2010 01:47

anupmisra wrote:
Kati wrote:Whoa, Paki exporting IT worth $200 million? We need to see how Pak is earning these $200 million
Pakis are past masters at analytical conjectures, what ifs, hypothetical projections, would-haves/should-haves/could-haves scenarios. Their whole basis of conjecturing is tied to: They (pakis) are taller, fairer, better looking and no accent english apeakers. So, if yindoo SDRE India can earn $15Bn, the pakis should be able to at least earn 1/7th of that (or $2Bn) because that's the population ratio.

Correction: You forgot to multiply by a factor of 10, remember the conversion factor 1 TFTA = 10 SDRE?

So they are entitled to at least 2 x 10 = $20 billion!

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Jan 2010 02:03

Read the article in toto. TSPA's H&D is at full display.

Gates Sees Fallout From Troubled Ties With Pakistan
By ELISABETH BUMILLER

“Are you with us or against us?” a senior military officer demanded of Mr. Gates at Pakistan’s National Defense University, according to a Pentagon official who recounted the remark made during a closed-door session after Mr. Gates gave a speech at the school on Friday. Mr. Gates, who could hardly miss that the officer was mimicking former President George W. Bush’s warning to nations harboring militants, simply replied, “Of course we’re with you.”

That was the essence of Mr. Gates’s message over two days to the Pakistanis, who are angry about the Central Intelligence Agency’s surge in missile strikes from drone aircraft on militants in Pakistan’s tribal areas, among other grievances, and showed no signs of feeling any love

Pakistani journalists asked Mr. Gates if the United States had plans to take over Pakistan’s nuclear weapons (Mr. Gates said no) and whether the United States would expand the drone strikes farther south into Baluchistan, as is under discussion. Mr. Gates did not answer.

James B · Post by **James B** » 24 Jan 2010 02:04

No IPL ever, says Pak board

Pakistan will not allow any of its players to take part in future editions of the Indian Premier League (IPL).

Speaking to Hindustan Times on Saturday, Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chief Ijaz Butt said: “We are never going to allow our players to participate in IPL again. What they (IPL) did is not only embarrassing, it is also an insult to us.”

This is the first time since the January 19 IPL players’ auction that the PCB chief has reacted with specific accusations. Butt called the snub a “conspiracy” against Pakistani cricketers and said the “entire incident was pre-planned”.

Vivek K · Post by **Vivek K** » 24 Jan 2010 02:07

All Indian efforts thus far have been concentrated on not giving Pakis an excuse to unite. The only thing that Pakis unite over is their hatred of India. IPL is a blow to Paki H&D and has given life to their hate. As such it has pulled the demise of the Paki state back from the brink. To that extent perhaps one or two of these people could have been bought for say 100 grand or a sum that they would not have accepted.

negi · Post by **negi** » 24 Jan 2010 02:16

^ Hello where are you ? what uninte shoonite are you talking about ?

Firstly there were no such Indian attempts , I don't know from where do you pull out such stuff ?

Secondly is it still not clear that the agents within the TSP which run the anti India charade inside the TSP have always been united IPL or no IPL ; ISI , TSPA and TJ don't need excuses to plot and conspire against Indian interests , haven't you been reading news on increased instances of infiltration across the LoC or even terrorists being ambushed by the security forces in the valley ? And all this much before IPL episode came to light.

Let us not put too much pressure on our brains and imagine things here . IPL is a private franchise GOI or even any Indian has no say in their decisions it is their money and hence their decision.

Vivek K · Post by **Vivek K** » 24 Jan 2010 02:23

Negi ji, dimag be jada jor na daal ke jara post pe gaur karein!

negi · Post by **negi** » 24 Jan 2010 02:28

Vivek K wrote:All Indian efforts thus far have been concentrated on not giving Pakis an excuse to unite.

For instance ?

To that extent perhaps one or two of these people could have been bought for say 100 grand or a sum that they would not have accepted.

How do you know ? And moreover why do you want such token measures to be taken ?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 24 Jan 2010 02:30

WoW, 2 gauntlets have been thrown in the recent past:

1) Sharukh Khan vowing to never visit US again after being strip searched at a NY airport while going for a 'South Asia' event hosted by some TSPian.
2) TSP vowing never to play IPL.

I wonder how long it will be before these to pronouncements are forgotten and its business as usual

.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 24 Jan 2010 02:33

Vivek K:

Magnanimity and compassion from a position of strength is a virtue. TSP is not looking for kindness and friendship from India. They are seeking to dominate. Had India allowed some terrorists to play in IPL3 (they still may after all), it won't be seen as friendship or goodwill, it will be seen as another instance of Pakijabi TFTAs lording over us SDREs.

Bhima · Post by **Bhima** » 24 Jan 2010 02:49

Cricket row escalating? Pak EC team cancels India visit

The pretentious farts at PCB cannot take rejection with a fraction of grace. I for one hope that they stick to their promise or, more realistically, at least stick to it for a long time.

Akshut · Post by **Akshut** » 24 Jan 2010 03:24

MODS, posting here for the viewing pleasure of pak-lurks. Kindly move to appropriate thread if necessary. & Kindly pardon the language.

Coz only this video can reveal what a paki must be feeling from within...

Credit: FursungikarFene(on YouTube)

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Jan 2010 03:24

CRamS wrote:Vivek K:

Magnanimity and compassion from a position of strength is a virtue. TSP is not looking for kindness and friendship from India. They are seeking to dominate. Had India allowed some terrorists to play in IPL3 (they still may after all), it won't be seen as friendship or goodwill, it will be seen as another instance of Pakijabi TFTAs lording over us SDREs.

Everything in Pak is seen in this way. Even the Bollywood with IM actors are seen as their own who lording over the SDREs. During the PM visit to WH in DC the dress by Mrs Pres Michelle Obama was done by IM Naem Khan. TSP people like to talk as if he their own. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naeem_Khan

negi · Post by **negi** » 24 Jan 2010 03:33

Akshut you made it ?

Too much man . Post it in BENIS too .

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 24 Jan 2010 03:40

CRamS wrote:WoW, 2 gauntlets have been thrown in the recent past:

1) Sharukh Khan vowing to never visit US again after being strip searched at a NY airport while going for a 'South Asia' event hosted by some TSPian.
2) TSP vowing never to play IPL.

I wonder how long it will be before these to pronouncements are forgotten and its business as usual .

One has to remember that the pakis are essentially wh0res however they wish to spin it. For the right amount, they will do anything. They will rush back into IPL within a year or two begging us to take them back.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 24 Jan 2010 03:45

Akshut, did you do that... that's supercool dude!!! Uneffingbelievable!!! Send it around the world!!!

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 24 Jan 2010 03:46

^^ Yep. they will be called non-board actors/players and not from pee cee bee. They will be in full form to conduct entitlement begging. Bakis have been eating grass for a long time now, shouldn't they be now eating hay till they have PPL.

Akshut · Post by **Akshut** » 24 Jan 2010 03:57

No No. I was just the 1st one to watch this video on YouTube.

Credit goes to : FursungikarFene

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 24 Jan 2010 03:58

akshut,
who ever wrote that piece. brilliant. just plain brilliant.

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 24 Jan 2010 04:01

That has to be one of the best Downfall parodies around

Please rate it at 5 stars folks..

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 24 Jan 2010 04:02

i did my part sriman.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Jan 2010 04:52

Focus on western borders: Gates to Pakistan

“Well, I think... because it faces, in its own way, an existential threat on its western border,” Mr. Gates said.

Asked if there was no threat to Pakistan on the eastern border with India, he replied: “I said we understood Pakistan’s legitimate concerns. It also has an existential threat on its western border, and that is the more immediate threat.”

James B · Post by **James B** » 24 Jan 2010 06:01

Lawyers boycott Pak's 26/11 trial

A Pakistani anti-terror court conducting the trial of Lashkar-e-Tayiba's operations chief Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi and six others for involvement in the Mumbai attacks adjourned the hearing for a week, on Saturday, after defence lawyers boycotted the proceedings complaining of lack of security.

One more delay added to a long list of delays.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Jan 2010 06:28

James B wrote:No IPL ever, says Pak board

Yippeeeeeeeee!! That's one problem solved to everyone's satisfaction!!

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 24 Jan 2010 06:34

shiv wrote:Yippeeeeeeeee!! That's one problem solved to everyone's satisfaction!!

IMO it is the beginning of a new era in Pakistani cricket. Now Paki players can hold PCB to ransom and will ask them to match the offer (if any) they may be getting from sponsors of IPL cricketing teams/clubs.

At worst, paki player will immigrate to India even before they explore chances with PCB or discouraged to proceed with relationship with PCB. Either way pakis are turning their guns in the direction of their groin.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Jan 2010 06:38

Sriman wrote:That has to be one of the best Downfall parodies around
Please rate it at 5 stars folks..

This video belongs in the Paki video hall of fame along with Channelphor's video of Xerox Khan and Paki nukes.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Jan 2010 06:41

Vivek K wrote:All Indian efforts thus far have been concentrated on not giving Pakis an excuse to unite. The only thing that Pakis unite over is their hatred of India. IPL is a blow to Paki H&D and has given life to their hate. As such it has pulled the demise of the Paki state back from the brink. To that extent perhaps one or two of these people could have been bought for say 100 grand or a sum that they would not have accepted.

Well as Zaid Hamid might say - just when things were going badly for Pakistan -out of the blue Allah sends a signal and Pakis are out of IPL. I am united with Pakistan in this hour of happiness.

Masaru · Post by **Masaru** » 24 Jan 2010 06:48

More crying by WKK 'literati'

What is the credential of Asma J, Shazia Omar to attend a literature meet (and comment on everything under the sun), and what is the Paki amby doing in a so called literature meet? Proof that 'high culture' arrived on Indian borders in 762 AD, that one cannot hold a 'literature meet' without these dignitaries?

Is India a benign superpower or is it a neighbourhood bully? This was the theme of one of the more provocative discussions at the Jaipur literature festival on Saturday. If the opinions of the speakers on the panel were any indication, India seriously needs to take a relook at its diplomacy for the region. (This is a topic of discussion in a literature meet held in India?)

Asma Jahangir asked, “What if we did that to you?” Pakistani writer Ali Sethi pointed out that the IPL controversy has allowed all sorts of hawks, including ISI officials, to jump in and say that this showed India’s true colours.

Earlier, former foreign secretary Shyam Saran said India’s neighbours see it as a big brother because of geography. “There is a creeping realisation that we have to deal with this problem.” Bangladeshi writer Shazia Omar responded by saying that India was a cultural hegemon and that it was a challenge to create “our own space”.( How about bit of gratitude from the pseudo/neo Paki motorham from BD to the country which wasted me and materiel for her independence from Pakis ? Memories of 1971 are too weak and distant ?)

Jahangir had the sharpest riposte when she said, “We have a lot to blame ourselves for. But there is a collective arrogance in India. Our dictators are India’s best friends.” She added, “India is tough. It could have dome much more in Nepal and Myanmar.”(And that would have created more uproar from motorham about big brother's interventionist foreign policy! )

Ali Sethi concluded by pleading for more people-to-people dialogue. “Things will have to get better if we want to live,” he said. Pakistani ambassador Shahid Malik, who was in the audience, had the final word when he lauded this newspaper’s ‘aman ki asha’ initiative and said it should be complemented by “pyar ki bhasha”.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 24 Jan 2010 06:58

Bangladeshi writer Shazia Omar responded by saying that India was a cultural hegemon and that it was a challenge to create “our own space”.

Wow the insecurity..... may be they should stop watching Indian movies I suppose.