Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010

[SSridhar]

Selected NUGGETS

Shah Abdul Aziz is in again

According to Jinnah Shah Abdul Aziz was caught in Potalzai area of Bannu and sent to jail under public safety clauses of the law. He was with his two guards. He was earlier arrested for reportedly having ordered the murder of the captured Polish engineer at Attock but was allowed to leave a Rawalpindi jail because of his past contacts. He was present at the Lal Masjid crisis in 2007 and is known to be well-connected.

Khalid Khwaja killed by America

Quoted in Nawa-e-Waqt the wife of ex-ISI officer Khalid Khwaja said that he was killed by America because the Taliban could not do this job. Ex-ISI chief Hamid Gul added that the killing of Khwaja was an effort to create a rift between the Afghan Taliban and the Pakistan army. On the same page the paper reported that Khalid Khwaja was killed by the Taliban because he was spying for the Americans.

Khalid Khwaja and Waliur Rehman

According to Islam, once Khalid Khwaja was a go-between for a meeting between a Saudi-Egyptian group and the TTP chief of South Waziristan Waliur Rehman. On his way back from the meeting Waliur Rehman was targeted by a drone which showed that Khalid Khwaja was likely working for the Americans.

Khalid Khwaja and Mansur Ejaz

As reported in Islam Khalid Khwaja played a role in 1999 in the plan made by American national Mansur Ejaz (who was close to the Clinton Administration) to get a CIA agent to meet with Mullah Umar, but the plan fell through after Mullah Umar refused to meet the agent. This aroused suspicion in many Taliban quarters about Khalid Khwaja’s real role.

Khalid Khwaja and Daniel Pearl

According to Islam Khalid Khwaja was put in touch by Mansur Ejaz with Daniel Pearl who then went to Karachi on the track of one Mubarak Shah who trained the British terrorist called the Shoe-bomber. After Daniel Pearl was killed by Al Qaeda operative Khalid Sheikh Muhammad in Karachi Khalid Khwaja was arrested for a time. The inquiry revealed that Khalid Khwaja had provided phone numbers of the terrorists to Daniel Pearl.

Khalid Khwaja, his own enemy!

Peshawar-based daily dedicated to Mufti Rashid Ahmad, Islam had Shabab Ahmad Khan writing that Khalid Khwaja was killed because of his mercurial and morally unclear personality who wanted to be many things at the same time. He was killed because during the Lal Masjid crisis in Islamabad he advised Ghazi Rashid not to give up and fight the army, but trapped his brother Maulana Aziz by getting him to wear a burqa and try to escape which actually led to his arrest. His kidnappers thought he was a double agent and killed him.

Khalid Khwaja and Sheikh Rashid

According to Islam Khalid Khwaja revealed that he had through the ISI provided funds to Sheikh Rashid for running terrorist training camps for assaults in the Indian Administered Kashmir. The same year he arranged for Shah Abdul Aziz and Javed Ibrahim Paracha to meet a senior officer from the US State Department. This led to suspicions that he could be working for the Americans.

Khalid Khwaja and Col Imam

As revealed in daily Islam Khalid Khwaja, because of his mercurial character, got another simple-minded but heroic ex-ISI officer Sultan Ameer Tarar alias Col Imam to work for Channel Four of the BBC and accompany him to Waziristan for interviews with the Taliban leaders. They went to North Waziristan city Mir Ali where they interviewed TTP leader Waliur Rehman. They got a taxi from there and went to Skakoi in South Waziristan and got busy making their documentary. The Taliban trusted them and showed them some of their secret places…till the Asian Tigers got hold of the two ex-ISI men and finally killed Khalid Khwaja.

Zaid Hamid’s poison to be drawn

According to daily Islam Qazi Ahsan Ahmad of Alami Tahaffuz-e-Nabuwwat stated that Zaid Hamid would not be allowed to freely spread his poison in the country. His defence against the accusation that he threatened the assassinated Maulana Jalalpuri was bogus and that he was a defender of the murdered False Prophet Yusuf Ali. {AoA}

[arun]

Imran Khan inaugurates chemotherapy wing at Shaukat Khanum

A very timely inauguration. The first patient that Imran Khan ought to wheel in for Chemotherapy is the Islamic Republic of Pakistan :

Pakistan needs chemotherapy, says Obama

[abhijitm]

I have trust in MMS and SMK. They will definitely buy a bridge from pigs.
P.C.'s scope is just to cry for Hafiz Saeed. I dont know what role Pranab going to play.

[SSridhar]

SS, I really doubt if India is talking to PA/ISI for close to an year now. Even as recently as a couple of months now, around the time that SSM took charge, "offical sources" were claiming that they didn't know whom to talk to in Pakistan given the various power centers. And then there were articles on how Pasha said that the armies of India and Pakistan should negotiate with each other,

putnanja, may be my mention of 'a year' is off the mark. The iftaar party was in Sep. 2009. May be it is only about 6 or 7 months. The US Government has put the Indian administration under a lot of pressure as far as India-Pakistan rapprochement is concerned. They feel that the resolution of this conflict holds the key for their announced exit from Afghanistan. Their exit from Afghanistan by c. 2011 is their single most important objective exercising their minds today. The US would therefore go to extraordinary depths to achieve that goal. For the last sixty years, the US has been always dealing with the PA and only with the PA to get things done in the Pakistani badlands. Nobody understands the PA like the Americans. If GotUS invites Shuja Pasha & Kayani for the Government-to-Government strategic dialogue and Holbrooke & Co justify it later and Hillary spends three hours with Kayani while spending less than half that time with Zardai & Gilani put together during her official trip to Islamabad, one can easily infer the 'advice' that would have been given to GoI by the US on whom to talk to sort things out. It is fair to expect that the GoI, in the receptive mood that it is in nowadays for anything from the US, would have only lapped it up.

and there were plenty of posts here on how the TSPA assumes things are same in India as in TSP where the army rules the roost.

The IA & the PA talk to each other at DGMO level perhaps. There is nothing new there. The Pakistanis know perfectly well that the IA has no role to play in foreign policy decisions. What PA was demanding was that the Indian political leadership should talk to PA. Prof. Hafeez Saeed also demanded that the Indian leadership should talk to him. Prof. Hafeez Saeed is the PA spokesperson and so when he demands talks, he demands talks between PA & GoI, and on behalf of the PA.

[abhijitm]

putnanja, may be my mention of 'a year' is off the mark. The iftaar party was in Sep. 2009. May be it is only about 6 or 7 months. The US Government has put the Indian administration under a lot of pressure as far as India-Pakistan rapprochement is concerned. They feel that the resolution of this conflict holds the key for their early exit from Afghanistan.

with all due respect SSridharji (and assuming you are talking about kashmir), i beg to differ on this viewpoint. The so called 'conflic of kashmir' is here since decades. US is not stupid to assume it will make a substantial progress in a year. The pressure of talk is not for Kashmir I believe. It is for Afghanistan. That is US immediate goal and they want pak and india to talk out their role in afghanistan in post US era. They want peace and stability [in afghanistan] after they leave and they know it will come only if Pakistan is tamed, and pakistan will be pacified only if India give up its interest in afghanistan. So all this gaga over kashmir, water etc is just a decoy. US worries most about afghanistan, pak worries most about the same. kashmir can wait.

One can argue that US itself can put pressure on India. But US wants India's presence to some extend, at least till next few years. India is also adamant about its interest. So probably this dialogue is to cut a deal between pak and india, may be to implement "some US plan" with both parties on the table. This talk is portrayed as if between pak and india. But I am sure US is managing the workshop through conference call.

[svenkat]

Very good point.

[SSridhar]

abhijitm, let me clarify regarding the 'conflict'. What I meant was certainly not Kashmir. The Americans realize that Kashmir or Afghanistan or Sir Creek is a mere symptom of a more enduring conflict that is rooted in a much deeper issue, that of hatred. This has resulted in a mistrust that is not allowing any progress in the ultimate resolution. From c. 2003 and up until c. 2007, slowly the CBM process assumed proportions of 'irreversibility'. However, the dismissal of CJP by Musharraf, followed by the lawyers agitation, the imposition of martial law within martial law, the drama of the return of BB & Nawaz Sharif took the focus off the Composite Dialogue and then the 26/11 happened to completely stop the CBM. It is my belief that the Americans know that the resolution is going to take time. However, they do not want any upset to this process to happen once again. The remaining two years are utterly crucial to the US & NATO withdrawal. Any attack like Mumbai may completely derail the process. Hence the emphasis on divorcing terrorism from discussions. Hence the claim by Pakistan that it was international pressure (read US) that brought 'India around'. Hence the S-e-S. The attempt here by the US is to set in place a mechanism that will be immune to any 'rocking of the boat'. Since the only constant factor in Pakistan is the PA, it has to be eventually the PA and the GoI that have to build the confidence, in the American thinking and experience.

[abhijitm]

SSridharji, almost agreed. But why (right now) US is so keen on India and Pakistan to talk on terrorism in India? It does have enough leverage to pressure pakistan, enough arms & money to bribe pakistan to postpone any such assault for next two year (just two years). Knowing pakistan is a gunda, it will not obey anything for free. By talking on this subject what immediate benefit India can offer to pakistan? At least US can bribe huge money and arms. I dont think GoI will do that. Then what? water, siachen and kashmir? I dont think so (and I hope so, fingers crossed...). Also indo-pak talks on internal issues have long history of failures. US will not sleep in peace just by making these two countries to talk. Its a waste of time and resources at this juncture.

If I was US I will keep the boat steady for two years by bribing PA; huge bribe, billion $s, which it already is doing. Then I will worry most about post US scenario. I will not want my investment go down the drain by these two neighbors. I will put up a plan and will get these two on the same page, together. JMT.

[SSridhar]

abhijitm, the immediate goal of the US might be withdrawal by c. 2011, but the long term goal is certainly to make sure that the US is not threatened from these badlands again. That certainly means that Afghanistan cannot be all left for Pakistan without the calming influence of others in the region, especially India. Among the regional stakeholders in Afghanistan, India is probably looked upon as a more capable entity and possibly as an acceptable country for the Afghans too. But, the PA stands in the way. The US cannot simply overrule PA because of the mischiefs that the latter are capable of doing.

The US, contrary to belief, cannot pressurize Pakistan beyond a point. Pakistan will concede ground to the US in several areas, but *not* vis-a-vis India. For example, the US could not or did not want to stop Pakistan from developing nuclear weapons because that was intimately linked with India. It links almost everything to its mortal fear of India. Pakistan knows that such a linkage, real or imaginary, gives it benefits. It therefore goes to absurd lengths such as 'it is India's capability and not intentions or past history that matters' etc. This is interpreted as a paranoia that needs to be addressed by bringing India into the equation, not by disabusing Pakistan of its absurdities or pointing out the realities. Like giving arms & ammunition as bakhsheesh, making India come to the table is also a form of bakhsheesh that the US promises to PA. It is up to the PA then to extract whatever it wants from the Indian political class. But, PA is confident of extracting concessions because Indian leaders always concede one-on-one.

The US is going to remain stayed this time in the India-Pakistan talks. US Asst Secy of State, Blake, was in Thimpu right through.

[Brad Goodman]

Yawn news

LAHORE, May 13: The Railways has suspended the running of 16 passenger trains because of financial constraints and a shortage of diesel.

The organisation has only two days of diesel left in its stock.

The passenger trains between Miani and Malakwal, Pind Dadan Khan and Malakwal, Karachi City and Sibi, Rohri and Lahore, Gharibwal and Malakwal and Khewra and Malakwal have been suspended.

Talking to journalists, Railways General Manager (Operation) Mohammad Ishfaq Khattak said Rs250 million had been paid to Pakistan State Oil for purchasing diesel, but there was still a shortage of the fuel.

“We have only two days’ diesel stocks for running the trains,” he said.

Mr Khattak said the railways had suffered a loss of RS18 billion over the past eight months.

He said Rs12.5 billion had been spent on buying diesel over the past year.—PPI

I am wondering how many more days can 3.5 donors keep pakis alive considering pakis are meeting IMF today for another $11 Billion.

I have never seen trains cancelled because of shortage of deisel

LinkShortage of fuel causes suspension of 16 trains

[SSridhar]

Life in PoK

The “Azad” in AJK smacks of oxymoronic rhetoric. Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) is neither a free territory, nor a province of Pakistan. Muzaffarabad has always been under the control of Islamabad and the curtailment of the freedom of expression is constitutionally protected. Without meaning to refer to the new name just bestowed on an old province, let me ask, what’s in a name?

Here is what.

There are a number of reports that describe the human rights violations in Indian Occupied Kashmir but it is hard to come by reports of violations on Pakistan’s side. The Pakistani government often pretends that the only problems faced by Kashmiris are in India. The official position that there are no human rights violations in AJK is a naïve and disingenuous position that needs to be challenged. According to the Freedom House World Freedom Reports, in 2008 Pakistan-administered Kashmir was given the status “Not Free”. This index awards a score of 1 to a “free country” based on ratings of political rights and civil liberties. These ratings are averaged, ranging from 1 to 7, i.e. countries or disputed territories with scores from 1 to 2.5 are considered Free, 3 to 5 are Partly Free, and 5.5 to 7 are Not Free. In 2008, this index gave AJK a Political Rights Score of 7 and a Civil Liberties score of 5. The scores for AJK have improved to a 6 and a 5 respectively in 2010. In comparison, Indian Occupied Kashmir has better scores of 5 for political rights and a 4 for civil liberties, and a status of ‘partly free’, which ironically is exactly equivalent to Pakistan’s national score and status!

According to Brad Adams, Asia Director at Human Rights Watch , the “Pakistani authorities govern Azad Kashmir with strict controls on basic freedoms… The military shows no tolerance for dissent and practically runs the region as a fiefdom.” The presence of an elected local government is a mere formality. In 2006, Human Rights Watch (HRW) reported that the federal government in Islamabad, the army and the ISI control all aspects of political life in AJK. Torture is routinely used in Pakistan, and this practice is also common in AJK. HRW also documented incidents of torture by the intelligence services and other agencies and individuals acting at the behest of the security establishment but knows of no cases in which members of military and paramilitary security and intelligence agencies have been prosecuted or even disciplined for acts of torture or mistreatment.

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) has also articulated tight controls on freedom of expression as a key pillar of government policy in AJK. While militant organizations promoting the incorporation of Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir State into Pakistan have had free reign to propagate their views, groups promoting an independent Kashmir find their speech curtailed. Publications and literature favouring independence are banned.

Pakistan has prevented the creation of an independent media in the territory through bureaucratic restrictions and coercion. Looking at the freedom of expression in AJK, before 2005, the only radio allowed to operate was the Azad Kashmir Radio, a subsidiary of Radio Pakistan. Similarly before the earthquake telephone landlines were limited and being strictly monitored and a very limited mobile telephone service was operational. HRW reports that all telecommunications stations were controlled by the Special Communications Organization (SCO), a functional unit of the Pakistani army. Only after the earthquake did the government allow private mobile phone companies to operate in Azad Kashmir when it was pointed out that the loss of life could have been lessened had people and rescue workers had this technology as they did in affected areas in NWFP (as it was then called).

It has been widely reported that refugees from Jammu and Kashmir are discriminated against and mistreated by the authorities. Kashmiri refugees and former militants from India, most of whom are secular nationalists and culturally and linguistically different from the people of AJK, are particularly harassed through continuous surveillance, arbitrary beating and arrests and restraints on political expression. Pakistani military bases in AJK are usually placed in close proximity to highly populated civilian areas supposedly because of a lack of space. But many Kashmiris told HRW that the Pakistani military uses the bases to keep a close watch on the population to ensure political compliance and control.

Freedoms of association and assembly are restricted and constitutionally repressed. Article 4(7)(2) of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir Interim Constitution Act of 1974, states: ‘No person or party in Azad Jammu and Kashmir shall be permitted to propagate against, or take part in activities prejudicial or detrimental to, the ideology of the States accession to Pakistan’. In recent years anti-government demonstrations have been violently suppressed and examples of these incidents are not hard to find. In 2005, at least ten people were killed when the police fired on a group of Shia students, after which curfews were imposed in Gilgit to prevent demonstrators from assembling. In 2006 police detained leaders of the Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front, including Amanullah Khan, after they attended a peaceful rally in Rawalpindi against the construction of the Bhasha Dam. Khan was detained for a week and was not permitted to receive visitors during that time, according to the U.S. State Department’s human rights report. In October 2008, police baton-charged dozens of people demonstrating against the proposal to move the capital of Azad Kashmir from Muzaffarabad. Three people were arrested but released the same day. In November 2008, the police blocked activists of the pro-independence APNA who were protesting in favor of truck services across the line-of-control from entering a town near the line-of-control.

In 2007, the European Union (EU) passed Emma Nicholson’s Kashmir report with an overwhelming majority and adopted it as an official EU document. This kind of report sits squarely in the grey area of the AJK problem. It has been touted in the media as being anti-Pakistan and there are Kashmiris who find it pro-Kashmiri rights and some call it dubious. The key problem with this report is that it fails to acknowledge Indian repression in Kashmir and portrays a benign image of a “pro-people” India.

The EU report titled ‘Present situation and future prospects’ was critical of the fact that the Pakistan side of Kashmir was governed through the Ministry of Kashmir Affairs in Islamabad, that Pakistan officials dominated the Kashmir Council. This report also highlighted the facts that at the time the Chief Secretary, the Inspector-General of Police, the Accountant-General and the Finance Secretary were all from Pakistan. Nicholson disapproved of the provision in the 1974 Interim Constitution, which forbids any political activity that is not in accordance with the doctrine of Jammu and Kashmir as articulated by Pakistan, and obliges any candidate for a parliamentary seat in AJK to sign a declaration of loyalty to that effect.

Looking at the rule of law, the whole system of law and order seemingly rests on the control by the army and Islamabad. A clear illustration was given at the time of the 2005 earthquake when the AJK governmental structure collapsed. Analysts noted how, in the aftermath of 2005 earthquake the local government system was exposed. To quote Akbar Zaidi, “the local government system and its elected bodies are part of the rubble along with the entire physical infra-structure of the area.”

Due to the limited mandate of the AJK Legislative Assembly, the elected political leaders of Azad Kashmir essentially remain ostensible heads of the territory while the real power resides in Islamabad with the Ministry of Kashmir and Northern Areas (KANA). Naturally this requires an obedient AJK administration. Since the early 1990s, the decision-making authority and management of the Kashmir issue has been under the Pakistan military, the ISI and ISI backed militant organizations.

In this unique case of “self-rule”, under the constitution, the elected representatives are acquiescent to the Kashmir Council controlled by Islamabad. The High Court and Supreme Court Judges can only be appointed by approval of the Ministry of Kashmir Affairs in Islamabad. The Minister of Kashmir Affairs can dismiss the Prime Minister, as can the Chief Secretary – another Islamabad appointee. Under Article 56, the President of Pakistan can dissolve the Legislative Assembly.

Adding to the already dismal situation of human rights in AJK is the instability of the Northern Areas and the migration of these people into AJK. It can be argued that the appropriation of land in the Northern Areas by non-Kashmiri migrants with the tacit encouragement of the federal government and army has diminished economic opportunities for the local population. An externality of this has been an increase in sectarian tension between the majority Shia Muslims and the growing numbers of Sunnis in AJK and 2009 and 2010 have seen increasing tension and sectarian violence.

So is the human rights and law and order situation of AJK worse than that at the east of the line of control? Answers can range from “yes” to “maybe” to “no”. The truth is that this is a loaded question, and this sort of a comparison is hard to make. Reports and perspectives of AJK from the Indian side refer to AJK as Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. It is indeed true that there is a lack of consideration of human rights on both sides. Yet the facts are blurred by the political biases of both sides, and neutral reports become emotionally charged. External reporting by international watchdogs like Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch are a step behind. Research by organizations like the HRCP and reporting by local news channels is only just making headway.

The 2006 Human Rights Watch report on Kashmir quotes a Muzaffarabad resident, “Pakistan says they are our friends and India is our enemy. I agree India is our enemy, but with friends like these, who needs enemies?”

AJK is yet to operate as a ‘free’ territory given the way we control it. Yet, understandably, we are loathe to accept this reality and our mainstream media is usually silent about this. Our rhetoric on AJK remains inflated and questionable.

'How free is my valley' from TFT

[abhijitm]

Like giving arms & ammunition as bakhsheesh, making India come to the table is also a form of bakhsheesh that the US promises to PA. It is up to the PA then to extract whatever it wants from the Indian political class. But, PA is confident of extracting concessions because Indian leaders always concede one-on-one.

Absolutely and that is the most worrying for us, as it is MMS and SMK are deciding the game. .

Thanks for replying Sridhar.

Any idea what part Gandhis are playing in this? Do they have enough influence on MMS' foreign policy? Because post Nehru clans are known for their hard stand vis-a-vis pakistan.

[Samay]

Any idea what part Gandhis are playing in this? Do they have enough influence on MMS' foreign policy? Because post Nehru clans are known for their hard stand vis-a-vis pakistan.

Interesting question
If you talk about gandhi family's thinking then we are talking about cwc
what do you think their orientation and policy should be ,considering the vote bank they are targeting ?
the answer is not hard to find..... one can asses the reason behind their past actions (26/11) as well

perhaps thats what pakis predicted,that knew even if they give a blow like 26/11 ,congress wont react for sure,
they knew it...
hence the confidence of conducting 26/11 type massive attack
what a disgrace ,

God bless those Jawans,by their sacrifice a little respect is left for us .

[anupmisra]

Dronacharya's Psychedelic Swat Tour Itinerary
For the groupies amongst you, this tour list comprises of all the locations where the band, The Drones, will be playing to packed houses. Get your tickets, tee-shirts and protective head gears now.

[surinder]

Dronacharya's Psychedelic Swat Tour Itinerary
For the groupies amongst you, this tour list comprises of all the locations where the band, The Drones, will be playing to packed houses. Get your tickets, tee-shirts and protective head gears now.

Literally 300KM from the capital, the country is under bombardment from an Ally on top of that. Then this country still thinks its priority is snatching Kashmir from India. The leaders of this country which is under constant attack go about life as if nothing has happened. They smile, laugh, travel abroad, do all things a normal country does. I do not know whether one should cry or laugh. Paki reaction is just bizzarre.

Is there any country in the world that will tolerate such attacks on soverignity, dignity, with such careless shamelessness?

[abhijitm]

Literally 300KM from the capital, the country is under bombardment from an Ally on top of that. Then this country still thinks its priority is snatching Kashmir from India.

pukistan dont qualify as a country. Somalia does, it is a sovereign state.

[Brad Goodman]

Pakistan’s Rupee May Slide to Record, Says Standard Chartered

The currency will slump to 88 per dollar by Dec. 31, Sayem Ali, an economist at Standard Chartered, said yesterday in an interview from Karachi. That would put the rupee on course for a seventh annual loss. It traded at 84.28 as of 10:40 a.m. local time

[arun]

Yawn news

LAHORE, May 13: The Railways has suspended the running of 16 passenger trains because of financial constraints and a shortage of diesel.

The organisation has only two days of diesel left in its stock. {Snipped}

Talking to journalists, Railways General Manager (Operation) Mohammad Ishfaq Khattak said Rs250 million had been paid to Pakistan State Oil for purchasing diesel, but there was still a shortage of the fuel.

“We have only two days’ diesel stocks for running the trains,” he said. {Snipped}

I am wondering how many more days can 3.5 donors keep pakis alive considering pakis are meeting IMF today for another $11 Billion.

I have never seen trains cancelled because of shortage of deisel

LinkShortage of fuel causes suspension of 16 trains

That’s the Islamic Republic of Pakistan for you.

Anyway the Diesel Fuel shortage impacting the Railways of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has a corollary in the Airline Industry. Owing to a Jet Fuel shortage, Daily Times in an article datelined May 9th has reported that foreign airlines flying in have been told they will not be refuelled:

A jet fuel shortage in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. International airlines flying in are not being provided fuel to fly out:

CAA refuses to provide fuel to international airlines

[Samay]

dont worry , the ksa had rushed a dozen tankers for them

[abhijitm]

Pakistan’s Rupee May Slide to Record, Says Standard Chartered

The currency will slump to 88 per dollar by Dec. 31, Sayem Ali, an economist at Standard Chartered, said yesterday in an interview from Karachi. That would put the rupee on course for a seventh annual loss. It traded at 84.28 as of 10:40 a.m. local time

It is a capital crime to compare us with pigs. I am not intending to do so. Just this news reminds me of following article (also dont forget to read embedded links )
Bullish on India: "Asia's Best Market"
OT

[arun]

Dronacharya's Psychedelic Swat Tour Itinerary
For the groupies amongst you, this tour list comprises of all the locations where the band, The Drones, will be playing to packed houses. Get your tickets, tee-shirts and protective head gears now.

Literally 300KM from the capital, the country is under bombardment from an Ally on top of that. Then this country still thinks its priority is snatching Kashmir from India. The leaders of this country which is under constant attack go about life as if nothing has happened. They smile, laugh, travel abroad, do all things a normal country does. I do not know whether one should cry or laugh. Paki reaction is just bizzarre.

Is there any country in the world that will tolerate such attacks on soverignity, dignity, with such careless shamelessness?

You are right. It’s is perplexing that despite the frequent boasts of the martial spirit of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan there has not been a single instance where there has been an attempt by the “martial” Pakistani’s to stop any one of the 134 Drone strikes that have violated their sovereignty (till May 11th).

Anyway another good resource on the National Bird of Pakistan aka Dronacharya aka Drone is the compilation titled “Charting the data for US airstrikes in Pakistan, 2004 – 2010” by Bill Roggio and Alexander Mayer in the Long War Journal:

Charting the data for US airstrikes in Pakistan, 2004 – 2010

[archan]

Pakistanis rejoice! a new generation of their national bird is ready!!

Coming right above a madarsaah near you...

Primarily intended to serve as a reconnaissance and intelligence drone, this 36 foot-long airborne robot will be able to cruise at speeds of up to 614mph, and will even do a bit of suppression fire when you need it to. It's designed to be undetectable by radar and offers a minimal heat signature for missiles to lock on to, as its engine is buried deep within the body.

[SSridhar]

This week's TFT is dedicated to PoK. In the last few weeks, we have seen a great tamasha going on in their judiciary. A couple of months back, there was a change of guard as well. A lot of churning is going on there.

Below is an excerpt from a Khaled Ahmed article:

We all know that ‘independence’ of AJK assembly is a myth. Article 21 of the AJK Constitution says that the government of AJK is subordinated to the Azad Jammu & Kashmir Council located in Islamabad with Prime Minister of Pakistan as chairman calling all the shots. Deconstruct this further and at the existential level it is the bureaucrat secretary of the Ministry of Kashmir Affairs who actually rules AJK. Of course one can deconstruct it further and say that the intelligence agencies call the shots, but of that more anon. Deconstruct the ‘agencies’ and you will be reduced to just two, the MI and the ISI.

Things have not gone well with AJK as far as jihad is concerned. The jihadis – often proxies encouraged by Pakistan – never liked the swing of the Muslim Conference mood away from jihad. Now the Taliban have emphasised that they too don’t favour a ‘non-aligned AJK’. It has been attacked by Lashkar-e-Zil of Al Qaeda headed by Ilyas Kashmiri from North Waziristan. The idea could be to soften AJK again and make it pliant to the presence terrorists plying across the LoC.

Azad Kashmir tasted its first reversion to terrorist jihad on 5 June 2009 when a suicide-bomber killed four soldiers and wounded many near an Army vehicle in Muzaffarabad. Since then, till 6 January 2010, four incidents of terrorism in AJK have accounted for the lives of 20 people, 10 of them security forces personnel and 10 civilians. The killers came from Lashkar-e-Zil being commanded by Ilyas Kashmiri and comprising some of the jihadi organisations used by Pakistan in the past to infiltrate into Indian Administered Jammu & Kashmir.

The components of Lashkar-e-Zil are: Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), the Azad Kashmir chapter of the Harkatul-Jihad al-Islami (HUJI) led by Commander Ilyas Kashmiri, and the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) led by its jailed leader Akram Lahori, the Afghan Taliban militia led by its Amir Mullah Omar, the Hezb-e-Islami Afghanistan (HeI) led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, and the Haqqani militant network. The LeJ leader Akram Lahori has been found blameless by a terrorist court in Karachi and let off so he can return to jihad.

Kashmir could be on the boil soon again, {In last week's article too, Khaled Ahmed warned of great terrorist danger to India in the coming weeks} to teach India a lesson. The cross-border bombing by India, provoked by Pakistani infiltrators, had made Kashmiris’ lives hell, till it was stopped after Musharraf patched up with India and called off the Kashmir jihad. Life in AJK was transformed after the Indians stopped killing civilians from across the border. This could be about to change; and the AJK Assembly may simply be feeling the early jolts of another policy-change. And now the last message.

Coda: Writing in Jinnah (9 May 2010) Chief Editor Khushnood Ali Khan stated that Prime Minister Farooq Haider of Azad Kashmir, who was sitting on the jugular vein (Shah Rag) of Pakistan, had almost declared treason against Pakistan. He had actually declared a revolt against Pakistan’s national interest in this most strategic and sensitive region of the country. But Prime Minister Gilani was focusing on Sindh instead of Azad Kashmir.

[Carl_T]

Doubt it will be used in that theatre unless it is meant to be aimed at other nations, why would they need a stealth plane?

[Singha]

well it will be a good test of its field service chain, sensors, weapons and loitering ability. stealth can be tested elsewhere like a domestic radar range or from taiwan flying over the taiwan strait.

[NRao]

It gets so confusing. Good Taliban, Bad Taliban, POT (Plain Old Taliban) (the most appropriate acronym?)?

US will soon burn, threatens Pakistan Taliban

[CRamS]

abhijitm/SSridhar,

Excellent discussions. Let me throw in my 2 paisa. Yes, the immediate US motive to force India to talk to TSP is not Kashmir, but to force India to beg TSP for mercy & accommodation that all its doing in Afghanistan is coolie work and it has left its b@lls back in Delhi. And you are right, US also wants India’s coolie work, especially after it leaves. In other words, as TSP Pakijabis always dream of, India will be allowed a toothless role in Afghanistan, but under the lordship of TSPA. And thats what these talks are about. Now, as a "South Asian", MMS doesn't have an issue with this, but this is surely repugnant to others in the Indian strategic establishment who have a modicum of Indian nationalism and pride, and hence these talks with TSP are about extracting dog bones so MMS can spin it through DDM to assuage those opposed to such a shameless lack of national pride.

The other thing that TSP gains through talks is the mere symbolism. And it is a victory by any standard that after huffing and puffing, India has decided to talk even though TSP delivered didly squat on Mumbai. Imagine the respect TSPA gets from the average Paki abdul for pulling this off. SDREs have been cowered into submission. And it also demonstrates to some nay sayers, very few of them in TSP who want to get rid of terrorists, that it is only the TSPA/ISI/LET combine can deliver India.

Finally, even on Kashmir, TSP is on a firm wicket. Look, India's traditional position has been, f$%^k UN resolutions BS, Kashmir (or at least the valley) is atoot ang, and there is no dispute. And India's position is rock solid if only it had the will, and nationalistic determination of yester year to boldly uphold that position. But for TSP's infusion of LET to create mayhem and plunder, Indian democracy is solid enough to address and neutralize KMs desire to secede. If one goes back to UN resolutions, there is a lot that TSP has to live up. And in reality, neither is TSP interested in the letter & spirit of UN. But what TSP has managed to do is build up enough terror infrastructure to make a mockery of any Indian move to consolidate its hold on the valley. I mean, just look at the sheer # if elections India has conducted, the amount of investment etc. So anyway, coming back to talks, what TSP has achieved is: 1) symbolism in India having accepted Kashmir is a "dispute", 2) at the table, we will have TSP& KMs Vs India, 3) The western wolves who are the judges, and if India does not concede to the demands of TSP & KMs, its no longer a "global super power of the 21st century", and you know effect this has on DDM and the rest of India. And once again, as a “South Asian”, for MMS, Kashmir is atoot ang is not sacrosanct. Whether Kashmir valley is with India or TSP, its still part of “South Asia”.

All these sorry state of affairs are the result of some undeniable facts: TSP's use of terror as an instrument of state policy has won it huge dividends, and India despite being a behemoth has miserably failed in not being able to extract a price from TSP for its diabolical acts. Thats why TSP laughs its ass off when outsiders suggest that terror poses a threat to TSP itself. TSP's perspective is completely different from what others think.

[KLNMurthy]

Please take a look at this:
Born-Again Peace?
By Pranoy Sharma

Excerpts:

The Peace Proposal

* Self-governance of Kashmir by leaders chosen by Kashmiris
* Joint management of Kashmir's security by India and Pakistan
* Open border to facilitate trade, people-to-people contact
* Demilitarisation of Kashmir on both sides of the LoC
* This arrangement to be reviewed every 10-15 years

[A_Gupta]

Thats why TSP laughs its ass off when outsiders suggest that terror poses a threat to TSP itself. TSP's perspective is completely different from what others think.

Blows its own ass sky-high is more like it.

a. Some people are buying too much into TSP delusions.

b. It is now evident to the world that TSP can't control its jihadis even if it wants to. Maybe at one time it could. It no longer can. There is no dastardly double-dealing any more, even though there used to be. TSP is really weaker than it ever used to be, relative to the jihadis.

c. Scanning through Howard Schaffer's book "Limits of Influence", it would seem that over the last sixty years whenever India & Pakistan have been close to a settlement, the fact that the settlement did not represent a complete capitulation by India results in Pakistan backing out.

d. Given (b) India talking to Pakistan is merely formalities, devoid of substance. Since any settlement will require Pakistan to give up on its maximalist position, any Pakistani leader - civilian or military - that seems close to a settlement will either have to repudiate it or else be ousted. This is the lesson of the last 60 years. Since no agreement is going to happen, it doesn't cost India anything in real concessions but gains India a lot in public relations to keep talking.

e. Every settlement proposal that has gone beyond the starting line in the last 60 years has, from the Indian side, simply kept the status quo with some adjustments. India never gives up anything, merely ceases to claim what it currently does not hold. I don't see any change in that coming any time soon.

f. Pakistan's 3.5 friends are trying very hard to keep Pakistan from becoming a Somalia. The RAPE class probably does not understand how close the Pakistani Taliban are to a revolution. If just one Taliban leader instead of being greedy, actually distributes captured feudal wealth to the masses - as soon as one Taliban leader figures that out - that is the end of the Pakistani RAPE class and the Pakistani state as we know it now.

[A_Gupta]

Cyril Almeida
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... alogue-450

Given the uncertainty, here in Pakistan this may finally be the time to listen to the folks quietly advocating a third way. This alternative camp, call them the ‘composite dialogue minus’ or the ‘core issues plus-plus’ camp, has for years been arguing for what they believe is a smarter dialogue strategy.

Here’s what the third camp says to the composite dialogue folks: you guys are wasting your time. Of the eight ‘baskets’ in the dialogue, three shouldn’t even be in there any more. On Siachen, officially there is an impasse over the Actual Ground Position Line, the pre-1984 position and Pakistan’s concern about things like the Saltoro ridge. On Sir Creek, officially there is still some gap between the two sides on where to draw the boundary line — middle of the estuary vs closer to the south-eastern bank. But privately the two sides admit that the differences have been narrowed far enough for the politicians to make a deal.

On the Wullar barrage/Tribul navigation project, there is a more basic question: when the Indus Waters Treaty is extant, why does Pakistan need another dispute-resolution mechanism?

On the Joint Anti-Terrorism Mechanism set up in the aftermath of Mumbai train bombings in 2006, there is plain derision. What is an additional-secretary level confab between Indian and Pakistani foreign-office types going to achieve on terrorism, the third camp asks. All they will do is throw lists of terrorists at each other. Better to yield to reality, get RAW and ISI talking to each other directly, give it a civilian ‘face’ if necessary, and start exchanging real-time information and counter-terrorism details.

To the ‘core’ issues camp, the third way says: don’t be so pig-headed. Khurshid Kasuri’s mouthing off on a ‘near deal’ on Kashmir was unnecessary and unfortunate, but it does point to the value of back-channel negotiations. Bringing Kashmir to the front channel, what the core-issues guys demand, overly complicates and politicises everything prematurely. Let the ideas over a Kashmir settlement germinate quietly in the background, the third camp says, and work on other things publicly in the meantime.

[Anujan]

BBC News: Kashmir militants 'regrouping' in Pakistan

Militants in Pakistani-administered Kashmir have regrouped on the Pakistani side of the divided territory, local politicians have told the BBC.

"Most of the activities are concentrated in the Neelum Valley along the LoC."

[Brad Goodman]

My question to all those experts on the forum who think MMS is compromising on Kashmir and other issues which might result in India giving away something to pakis.

I think finally what ever politicians do or rather most times do not do anything is solely determined by how many votes it can fetch them in next election in India's context it can also be translated in how many negative votes are not cast because of my action. Example Shri Narsimha Rao ji played nero when kar sevaks were laying foundation of Shri Ram Mandir in Ayodhya this decision from Rao finally cost him his re-election as PM and Congress lost power for a decade. Another example is VP Singh's mandal has for ever changed face of Indian politics. Now lets for one minute think that MMS agrees to some kind of kashmir solution that involves exchange of territory ( I am being polite here read this as surrender of some area to pakis) Congress needs to factor the backlash this can cause in India especially amongst middle class. Remember poor and super rich do not care about these issues so their voting / party funding patterns might not change much as a result of this decision but middle class if it decides to go to polling booths for a change and vote then congress will lose power for another decade. I am sure congressi gandhi topi veterans know this pretty well so they will never let MMS/ Sonia do anything. You need to prepare people mentally to surrender territory that in practical terms means either war or some level of terrorism that wears middle class down.

[Rahul Shukla]

Man Who Admits Aiding Alleged NYC Bomber Arrested by Pakistan (Global Security)

The Pakistani government has apprehended an alleged affiliate of the Pakistani Taliban who claimed he aided the U.S. citizen charged with attempting to carry out a bombing attack in New York City's Times Square earlier this month, U.S. officials said.

The man offered an "independent stream" of information that backs up the U.S. contention that the Pakistan-based group Tehrik-e-Taliban was involved in plotting the failed car bombing...

"What they said has been corroborated by other evidence,'' a high-level law enforcement source said. The official declined to elaborate on the evidence because it was classified.

However, officials with knowledge of the probe warned that there are differences between the two men's accounts.

A U.S. official with knowledge of the probe said there were some "conflicts, disconnects" in the information given by the detainees. The divergences focus chiefly on the particulars and time line of Shahzad's stay in Pakistan and his training.

So an ISI agent has been briefed and instructed to "fill-in" as an accomplice of Faisal. Now all he has to do ask for space for his prophet mandated namaz while being escorted to court and...

Meanwhile, in another parrallel universe, things are different:

Pakistan detainee claims he's bomber accomplice (AFP)

But Pakistan's Interior Minister Rehman Malik insisted Friday that Pakistan had made no formal arrests in connection with the plot to explode a car bomb in New York's Times Square on May 1.

"I would like to tell you that there has not been any formal arrest by us," Malik told AFP when asked if the Pakistani authorities were detaining an alleged accomplice of Shahzad. "Pakistan received some questions from the US and is giving its feedback on them," Malik told reporters outside parliament.

[putnanja]

Please take a look at this:
Born-Again Peace?
By Pranoy Sharma

Excerpts:

The Peace Proposal

* Self-governance of Kashmir by leaders chosen by Kashmiris
* Joint management of Kashmir's security by India and Pakistan
* Open border to facilitate trade, people-to-people contact
* Demilitarisation of Kashmir on both sides of the LoC
* This arrangement to be reviewed every 10-15 years

Recipe for disaster!! Much of PoK is now populated by punjabis, and SSridhar's post also reinforces that. Open border means that all and sundry will be able to move into India. How will they prevent those entering J&K from entering India's hinterland? We will have IEDs and communal riots everywhere if we let the paki pigs in.

[CRamS]

e. Every settlement proposal that has gone beyond the starting line in the last 60 years has, from the Indian side, simply kept the status quo with some adjustments . India never gives up anything, merely ceases to claim what it currently does not hold. I don't see any change in that coming any time soon.

This bolded part is key. US/UK/MMS will argue through their spinmiesters that LOC++ constitute some adjustments , meaning:

Please take a look at this:
Born-Again Peace?
By Pranoy Sharma

Excerpts:

The Peace Proposal

* Self-governance of Kashmir by leaders chosen by Kashmiris
* Joint management of Kashmir's security by India and Pakistan
* Open border to facilitate trade, people-to-people contact
* Demilitarisation of Kashmir on both sides of the LoC
* This arrangement to be reviewed every 10-15 years

Some Hurriyat leaders wanted greater clarity on the joint mechanism—did it mean India and Pakistan jointly patrolling the state? The leaders had suggested raising a new security force comprising Indians, Pakistanis and Kashmiri troops. They also wanted the subjects listed for self-governance to include more than just water, agriculture, trade and culture, and were keen to have greater say in security matters and foreign relations pertaining to Kashmir. Their other demand was to accord recognition to the currencies of both India and Pakistan in all market transactions. Yet what made them accept the proposal was the provision of review incorporated in it.

[Prasad]

Might seem like a novice question but how would the government ensure that none of the pakiness spills over to the bordering states if these joint tamashas are enacted? If we have 'joint patrolling' (yuck!) etc, how would you ensure security of the other states. For ensuring that the kashmiris are pandered to, wouldnt they be ensuring lack of security to the others. How is it that these commentators never seem to see beyond Kashmir for these solutions!

[Amber G.]

3 Pakistanis arrested in Times Square bomb probe

There have been quite a bit of activity .. many Pakistani-origin grilled in LI (Long Island - Center reach, Lk Rankankoma etc) Maine/Mass/NY/NJ area... Report of 4th person who is being called accomplice of Shahzad is in the news.

Two from Boston area belong to Allston mosque.. and people there are being questioned...

[surinder]

For one perspective of Indian Muslims vis-a-vis Pakistan, see here:

kya aap musalmaan hain?

On a side note, note how the authress tells of intel folks chasing them and keeping a tab on them.

TSP is a highly surveiled society. They spent enormous amounts of their meagre budgets on spying. Many visitors from India was said about wierd cars tailing them. One such case was hilarious, the isi boys were tailing the car of the Indian visitors, who had lost their way. They went round and round and could not find the way. The boys had had it, they stopped and accosted the Indians and asked tell us where you want to go and we will take you there.

In another case an Indian who had a visa for a specific city, wanted to skip and visit another city (his ancestral city, he was Punjabi). He had merely taken a taxi and gotten out of the city that we was stopped and asked to turn back and stay in the same city.

[svinayak]

History: Bibiliography
Title: Witness to Surrender
Author: Siddiq Salik
ISBN: 984 05 1373 7
Publisher: The University Press Limited
Address: Red Crescent Building, 114 Motijheel C/A, GPO Box 2611, Dhaka 1000, Bangladesh
Contact: English
Year: 1997 (first published in 1977 by Oxford University Press, Karachi)
Other: Review by Abdul M. Ismail: An interesting perspective by a (West) Pakistani Officer on the 1971
conflict. The deployment and actions taken by the occupational forces can be confirmed by cross
examination from other text written in military format (see Maj. Gen. KM Safiullah (Bangladesh) and Lt.
Gen. JFR Jacob (India) below for further details). What is an arousing observation is when the author re-
lives the events leading up to Mujib's arrest and the one sided dialogue which took place prior to that
event.
Title: Surrender at Dacca : Birth of a Nation
Author: Lt. Gen. JFR Jacob
ISBN: 984 05 1395 8
Publisher: The University Press Limited
Address: Red Crescent Building, 114 Motijheel C/A, GPO Box 2611, Dhaka 1000, Bangladesh
Contact: English
Year: 1997
Other: Review by Abdul M. Ismail: Written by India's Chief of Staff (Eastern Wing) during the 1971 War,
the then Maj. Gen. Jacob describes the all important logistical aspects and reasoning behind the delay with
military intervention of the Indian Army, Navy and Air Force until the latter part of 1971. Co-ordination
between the three services and integration of (plus the role played by the) Mukti Bahini is well
documented hence adding the aspect of realism of the campaign to liberate Bangladesh.
Title: The Year That Was
Author: Ishrat Firdousi
ISBN:
Publisher: Bastu Prakashan
Address: 68/2 Purana Paltan, Dhaka
Contact: English
Year: 1996
Other: Review by Abdul M. Ismail: The book is a collection of short stories and portrays individual
experiences of over 70 people during the nine month military crackdown. They neither promote
themselves as heroes nor victims but as observers and participants to what culminated to the formation of
an independent nation. The inclusion of transcripts by (West) Pakistanis and Biharis, albeit limited in
number, is a welcome addition to the compilation. Several narration's by Bengalis point out the difficult
situations which some (West) Pakistani civilians had to endure during the conflict.
Title: Bangladesh at War
Author: Maj. Gen. K. M. Safiullah, psc., Bir Uttam
ISBN: 984-08-0109-0
Publisher: Academic Publishers
Address: 35 Syed Awlad Hossain Lane, Dhaka -1100, Bangladesh
Contact: English
Year: 1995 (Second Edition)
Other: Review by Abdul M. Ismail: An excellent account from a Sector Commander and Bangladesh's First
Army Chief of Staff, who describes the Mukti Bahini's continual confrontation with the (West) Pakistani
military from the point of desertion to the surrender ceremony at the Ramna Race Course. Failed attempts
and losses of both men and equipment whilst employing conventional tactics with vastly inferior
equipment and lack of air support/artillery forced the Freedom Fighters to use guerrilla tactics. This
approach, as Brig. Siddiq Salik states, proved to have had an adverse affect on the (West) Pakistani
soldiers towards the closing days of the campaign. Due credit is given to all other Sector Commanders and
includes a summary of events and tactics used which occurred other areas of the country during the
conflict. This is the only book written by a Bengali Officer on the 1971 campaign which is known to be in
the libraries of the Pakistani Military Academy.
Title: Of Blood and Fire : The Untold Story of Bangladesh's War of Independence
Author: Jahanara Imam translated by Mustafizur Rahman
ISBN:
Publisher: Academic Publishers
Address: 35 Syed Awlad Hossain Lane, Dhaka -1100, Bangladesh
Contact: English
Year: 1991 (Second Edition)
Other: Review by Abdul M. Ismail: Originally published in Bengali, February 1986 under the title of 'The
Days of '71', the book was eventually translated to English. This afforded a wider audience to experience
the events in Dhaka up to, during and after the military crackdown. Written in the format of a day-to-day
diary, the author provides a touching account of her family's involvement, and those around her, with the
struggle for independence. The emotions and concerns of a wife and mother are heartfelt and will leave
readers with lasting distaste for war and conflict.
Title: A Tale of Millions : Bangladesh Liberation War - 1971
Author: Maj. Rafiqul Islam, Bir Uttam
ISBN:
Publisher: Ananna
Address: 38/2 Bangla Bazar, Dhaka, Bangladesh
Contact: English
Year: 1986 (Third Edition)
Other: Review by Abdul M. Ismail: An authoritative account of Captain Rafiqul Islam, an East Pakistan
Rifles (EPR) Company Commander who, like numerous other Bengali Officers took up arms and rebelled
against their (West) Pakistani counterparts. The author shows his frustration of lack of logistical support,
indiscipline of non-military personnel and shares his thoughts by his criticising his superior officers. An
interesting observation was the recruitment of student leaders and educated individuals by Indian
Intelligence. These 'elite' Bengalis were given superior training, arms and ammunition and operated under
the Operational Layout of the Indian Armed Forces rather than under a unified command structure of (and
much to the annoyance of the) Bangladesh Military . The second half of the book is dedicated to activities
which occurred in other sectors and includes operational activities of the naval commandos who
specifically targeted military and supply vessels.
Title: War and Secession : Pakistan, India, and the Creation of Bangladesh
Author: Richard Sisson, Leo Rose
ISBN: 0520076656
Publisher: Univ California Press
Address:
Contact: English
Year: 1991
Other: n/a

[NRao]

Please take a look at this:
Born-Again Peace?
By Pranoy Sharma

Excerpts:

The Peace Proposal

* Self-governance of Kashmir by leaders chosen by Kashmiris
* Joint management of Kashmir's security by India and Pakistan
* Open border to facilitate trade, people-to-people contact
* Demilitarisation of Kashmir on both sides of the LoC
* This arrangement to be reviewed every 10-15 years

Recipe for disaster!! Much of PoK is now populated by punjabis, and SSridhar's post also reinforces that. Open border means that all and sundry will be able to move into India. How will they prevent those entering J&K from entering India's hinterland? We will have IEDs and communal riots everywhere if we let the paki pigs in.

Is this too different from the Mush days? Seems to me that it is fairly close.

On Abdul IED, IIRC it is part of the agreement to close ISI feature buttons.

BUT, why are we worrying about things that will never matter? TSP is going down the tubes. Uncle wants some help so he is agreeing to things that the ISI wants. Play the game, even Uncle cannot control TSPian inflation and slide in currency. Abdul IED will matter to Uncle more than India - as demoed by Paki Taliban in NY Times Square incidence. The involvement of Clinton in barking at TSP and increased Obamaese tutoring TSP that they have existential threats has to continue - sponsored by TSP itself. TSP as can will spill all her worms the day PA and ISI abduls come out in the open and have a gay time.