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Anujan wrote:Just because most terrorists are Pakistani doesn't mean most Pakistanis are terrorists. Most Pakistanis only support terrorists.

A_Rai wrote:Apparently ‘Pakistani’ in French means ‘terrorist’
Adventures of a bearded Paki in French lands.

It happened with me in East Germany but that experience was more intense than you can imagine. German commandos point the gun at me when they came to know we are from Pakistan and my friend was from KPK and i was from the border of Punjab and KPK and we were held and they ask all the stupid questions that you can imagine. When we told them that we are engineers we were told that how come any Pakistani can be an Engineer when Madressahs dont give higher education and there are no universities in Pakistan?. Then the next question was a Bombshell and that was why I dont look like an Exact Pakistani and why I am not brown enough and i have no answer to that question. I tried to explain them that Pakistan is a mixture of people of different ethnicity and races but they were not in any mood to listen.

WASHINGTON: Pakistan extended full cooperation to the CIA in tracing suspected terrorists and provided secret detention and interrogation facilities to the US intelligence agency, says a report.
A Washington-based rights advocacy group, Open Society Justice Initiative, reported that Pakistan “captured, detained, interrogated, tortured, and abused” hundreds of individuals for the CIA.
The report documents participation of 54 foreign governments in CIA’s operations against terrorists and was first published by The New York Times on Tuesday and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s daughter Amrit Singh is one of the principal writers of the report.The chapter on Pakistan shows that the country also permitted its airspace and airports to be used for flights associated with CIA’s operations.A 2010 UN report observed that from December 2001 until the summer of 2002, Pakistan operated a secret detention programme under which detainees were initially detained in Pakistan before being transferred to Afghanistan and/or to Guantanamo Bay.Former President Pervez Musharraf acknowledged capturing 672 alleged Al Qaeda members and handing over 369 of them to the United States.According to Amnesty International, “most of the known victims of rendition were initially detained in Pakistan.”The report says that Pakistani authorities were involved in the capture of about a dozen key al-Qaeda suspects and also initially detained, interrogated, tortured, and abused dozens of other suspects.The report includes information provided by Human Rights Watch and other advocacy groups about Pakistan’s role in these captures and detentions.Furthermore, it claims that Pakistan has allowed use of its airports and airspace for flights operated by Jeppesen Dataplan that were associated with CIA’s extraordinary rendition.It quotes US court records as showing that in 2003, Pakistan allowed use of its airports and air space for at least one flight flown by the private charter company Richmor Aviation, which operated flights for the CIA’s extraordinary rendition programme.This flight was registered as N85VM and stopped over in Islamabad at some point between March 1 and 3, 2003.Detention facilities in which detainees were held at the behest of the CIA include the ISI detention facility in Karachi, which was allegedly used as an initial detention and interrogation point before detainees were transferred to other prisons.Although it is controlled by the ISI, detainees at the facility claim to have been interviewed by both US and British intelligence officials.

KARACHI: At least 17 more people were killed in different incidents of violence in the city on Thursday.A sympathiser of the Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ) was killed inside his clinic in North Nazimabad. Police said that unidentified armed pillion riders barged into the clinic and fired at 56-year-old Dr Abid Baig. He died on the way to Abbasi Shaheed Hospital (ASH). A policeman was killed near Khyber Chowk, Ittehad Town. According to police the victim, who was on election campaign duty, was shot dead by two unidentified pillion riders. He hailed from Chiniot. Two brothers were killed inside their shop in Madni Colony, Maripur. An official said that armed men barged into the book and uniform shop, and after quarrel opened indiscriminate firing, injuring 30-year-old Rashid and his younger brother Kashif. They were shifted to CHK for treatment where doctors pronounced them dead. The victims belonged to Punjab and had received extortion slips, but they refused to oblige, which could be the reason behind the killings.

A_Rai wrote:Apparently ‘Pakistani’ in French means ‘terrorist’
Adventures of a bearded Paki in French lands.

LAHORE: Unidentified members of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Punjab chapter distributed pamphlets in buses and bus stands in Lahore threatening bus owners, drivers and conductors not to play obscene movies and/or songs while travelling or else they would be targeted. The TTP members distributed these pamphlets in the Nawan Kot Circle of Lahore.

Jhujar wrote:CIAIslam And Pakislam: Yeh Dosti With Posti on Polk Street

CIA used ISI facilities in Karachi, says US report

............. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s daughter Amrit Singh is one of the principal writers of the report.

India has decided not to “suspend’’ trade talks with Pakistan in reaction to the violence at the Line of Control last month, but further movement in the liberalisation process has to be initiated by Islamabad, an Indian Government official has said.

“The Ministry of External Affairs has informed the Commerce Department that it has no problems with the on-going two-way trade dialogue and the process should continue,” the official told Business Line.

Pakistan is yet to accord the most favoured nation (MFN) status to India by lifting ban on all Indian products despite the deadline for it lapsing on December 31, 2012.

It has also not allowed trade of all goods through the land route as promised.

Although Pakistan more than trebled the number of goods it allows from India to 6,800 items earlier this year from 2,000 items, it still bans 1,209 items.{And, except for a small list of items, others are banned by Pakistan from the land route}

Most of the banned items, which are from sectors such as pharmaceuticals, agriculture, automobiles and textiles, are of great export interest to India, according to a recent research paper by Nisha Taneja from research body ICRIER.

India, which gave MFN status to Pakistan in 1995, has agreed to phased reduction of tariffs for 264 items from the neighbouring country, under the South Asia Free Trade Agreement (SAFTA).

Pakistan officials, however, claim that Prime Minister Mammohan Singh’s statement following the LoC violence asserting that it cannot be business as usual between the two countries gave a negative signal to the talks.

“What the Indian PM said was very discouraging and gives the impression that India is not interested in carrying the talks forward,” a Pakistani Trade Ministry official told Business Line.

An official in India’s negotiating team rubbished the apprehensions and said that Pakistan had to first keep its part of the bargain before raising further concerns.

“We have done whatever we had promised to do including giving preferential access to more products from Pakistan under the South Asia Free Trade Agreement. The onus is now on Pakistan to give us MFN status and allow all products to be traded through the land route,” the official said.

India has also agreed to allow investments to and from the country by removing Pakistan from the negative list maintained under the Foreign Exchange Management Act (FEMA).

“The ball is certainly now in Pakistan’s court and we have to see how soon they deliver,” the official added.

India’s exports to Pakistan increased 16.7 per cent in the April-December 2012 period to $1.31 billion while its imports from the neighbouring country rose 66 per cent to $460 million.

Although Pakistan more than trebled the number of goods it allows from India to 6,800 items earlier this year from 2,000 items, it still bans 1,209 items.......

Most of the banned items, which are from sectors such as pharmaceuticals, agriculture, automobiles and textiles, are of great export interest to India, according to a recent research paper by Nisha Taneja from research body ICRIER......

India’s exports to Pakistan increased 16.7 per cent in the April-December 2012 period to $1.31 billion while its imports from the neighbouring country rose 66 per cent to $460 million.

partha wrote:Mahesh Butt

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ente ... 366330.cms

Indian artists are not given a chance in Pakistan. How do you see that?

1) Just because somebody is doing that doesn't mean we should stop doing what we should be doing. Our films are shown in Pakistan and that's a reality. We started it in 2007 with Awarapan and in today's date Indian films are shown in Pak. Even after 26/11, the situation spoiled, but they didn't take out Indian films from there.

2) From Pakistan we get a major revenue stay. Whereas, the question of our artists getting work in Pak is concerned, there is no work in Pakistan. More films are not made there.

Dipanker wrote:

A_Rai wrote:Apparently ‘Pakistani’ in French means ‘terrorist’
Adventures of a bearded Paki in French lands.

In other languages too.

Ten million dollars does not seem to buy much in this bustling Pakistani city. That is the sum the United States is offering for help in convicting Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, Pakistan's best-known jihadi leader. Yet Saeed lives an apparently fearless life in a middle-class neighborhood in Lahore. "I move about like an ordinary person, that's my style. My fate is in the hands of God, not America," said Saeed, a burly 64-year-old. He is the founder, and true leader of Lashkar-e-Taiba, the terrorist group that carried out the 26/11 attacks on Mumbai. The United Nations has placed him on a terrorist list and imposed sanctions on his group. But few believe he will face trial any time soon in a country that maintains a perilous ambiguity toward jihadi militancy.

Saeed's very public life seems more than just an act of mocking defiance against the American government and its bounty. As American troops prepare to leave Afghanistan, whether Lashkar would disarm and enter politics or return to battle in J&K will depend largely on Saeed.

At his fortified complex in Lahore, housing his residence, office and mosque, Saeed is shielded by his supporters, burly men wielding Kalashnikovs outside his door and by the Pakistani state. On a recent evening, police officers screened visitors at a checkpoint near his house, while others patrolled an adjoining park, watching by floodlight for intruders. His security seemingly ensured, Saeed has addressed large public meetings and appeared on prime-time TV and is now even giving interviews to Western media he had previously eschewed. He says that he wants to correct 'misperceptions'.

During an interview with The New York Times at his home last week, Saeed insisted that his name had been cleared by Pakistani courts. "Why does the United States not respect our judicial system," he asked. He claims he has nothing against Americans, and warmly describes a US visit in 1994. He spoke at Islamic centers in Houston, Chicago and Boston. "At that time, I liked it," he said with a wry smile. Then, his group was focused on attacking Indian soldiers in Jammu and Kashmir after Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence directorate established the Lashkar-e-Taiba in 1989.

Pakistan analysts caution that Saeed's openness is no random occurrence. "This isn't out of the blue," said Shamila N Chaudhry, a former Obama administration official at the Eurasia Group. "These guys don't start talking publicly just like that." What it amounts to, however, may depend on events across the border in Afghanistan. In public, Saeed has been a leading light in the Defence of Pakistan Council that lobbied against the reopening of NATO supply routes through Pakistan last year. More quietly, Lashkar fighters have attacked Western troops and Indian diplomatic facilities in Afghanistan, intelligence officials say.

The question now is what will happen to them once American troops leave. One possibility is a return to Lashkar's traditional battleground in J&K. But a more hopeful possibility, floated by some Western and Pakistani officials, is that Saeed would lead his group into politics, and away from militancy. {The Western officials are colluding with Pakistani officials to give an escape route to Hafiz Saeed. Is that part of the deal between the US and TSPA as part of Af-Pak exit ? First, it was the JuD which was described to be involved in dawah and Professori had stepped down from LeT. Now, he is even involved in politics ! Whatever he does or does not do, his crimes are there for him to be punished with hanging. India must get its hands on him and punish him for his crime. There cannot be any closure to 26/11 unless and until that happens} Some of his fighters have already split from Lashkar in favor of other groups that attack the Pakistani state. And much will depend on the advice of his military sponsors. There is ample evidence that parts of the military remain wedded to jihadi proxies. In Waziristan, the army maintains close ties to the Haqqani Network, a major player in the Afghan insurgency.

In western Baluchistan, it has used Sunni extremists to quell an uprising by Baluch nationalists — even though the same extremists also massacre minority Shiites. And Saeed's freedom to roam around Lahore — and, indeed, across Pakistan — suggests some generals still believe the 'good jihadis' are worth having around. Western intelligence officials say Lashkar's training camps in northern Pakistan have not been shut down. "There's a strategic culture of using proxies," said Stephen Tankel, an American academic and author of a book on Lashkar-e-Taiba. "And if that's the tool you're used to grabbing from the toolbox, it can be hard to let go."

Saeed has to walk a tightrope within the jihadi firmament. His support for the state puts him at odds with Pakistani Taliban. "They want to destabilize Pakistan," he said. But that leaves him vulnerable to pressure from fighters within his own ranks who may still have Taliban sympathies. Western security officials say Lashkar has already suffered defections in recent years. "If he continues in this direction, the issue is how many people he can bring with him," Tankel said. {There has been a great pressure on Professori saheb since c. 2002 to retain his flock which is increasingly finding attracted to the Punjabi Taliban component of the TTP. One of his methods that Professori saheb has used is to mount some spectacular assaults on India like the Parliament attack, Kabul Embassy attacks, and 26/11} But ultimately, much depends on the Pakistani army: "The army can't dismantle these groups all at once, because of the danger of blowback. It's too early to tell which way they will ultimately go."

sanjaykumar wrote:I am sure the French were very polite when they asked him to listen-ecoutez Pakistani.

ramana wrote:
So he makes the economic argument:
-Indian films are shown in TSP since 2007 legally and make money
-There are not many films made in Pakistan so there is no work there.
QED no scope for Indian actors in Paki films.

This does not fly for there should be reciprocity. If Paki actors get to work in Bollywood then same number should be allowed to work in Paki films.
It has nothing to do with Indian films being screened in Pakistan. And their revenue is because they are watching in theaters legally. You watch, you pay.
So them paying money to watch Indian films does not obviate the need for reciprocity for actors!

What a muddled thinker!

LAHORE, Pakistan — Ten million dollars does not seem to buy much in this bustling Pakistani city. That is the sum the United States is offering for help in convicting Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, perhaps the country’s best-known jihadi leader. Yet Mr. Saeed lives an open, and apparently fearless, life in a middle-class neighborhood here.

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“I move about like an ordinary person — that’s my style,” said Mr. Saeed, a burly 64-year-old, reclining on a bolster as he ate a chicken supper. “My fate is in the hands of God, not America.”

Mr. Saeed is the founder, and is still widely believed to be the true leader, of Lashkar-e-Taiba, the militant group that carried out the 2008 attacks in Mumbai, India, in which more than 160 people, including six Americans, were killed. The United Nations has placed him on a terrorist list and imposed sanctions on his group. But few believe he will face trial any time soon in a country that maintains a perilous ambiguity toward jihadi militancy, casting a benign eye on some groups, even as it battles others that attack the state.

Mr. Saeed’s very public life seems more than just an act of mocking defiance against the Obama administration and its bounty, analysts say. As American troops prepare to leave Afghanistan next door, Lashkar is at a crossroads, and its fighters’ next move — whether to focus on fighting the West, disarm and enter the political process, or return to battle in Kashmir — will depend largely on Mr. Saeed.

At his Lahore compound — a fortified house, office and mosque — Mr. Saeed is shielded not only by his supporters, burly men wielding Kalashnikovs outside his door, but also by the Pakistani state. On a recent evening, police officers screened visitors at a checkpoint near his house, while other officers patrolled an adjoining park, watching by floodlight for intruders.

His security seemingly ensured, Mr. Saeed has over the past year addressed large public meetings and appeared on prime-time television, and is now even giving interviews to Western news media outlets he had previously eschewed.

He says that he wants to correct “misperceptions.” During an interview with The New York Times at his home last week, Mr. Saeed insisted that his name had been cleared by the Pakistani courts. “Why does the United States not respect our judicial system?” he asked.

Still, he says he has nothing against Americans, and warmly described a visit he made to the United States in 1994, during which he spoke at Islamic centers in Houston, Chicago and Boston. “At that time, I liked it,” he said with a wry smile.

During that stretch, his group was focused on attacking Indian soldiers in the disputed territory of Kashmir — the fight that led the military’s Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate to help establish Lashkar-e-Taiba in 1989. But that battle died down over the past decade, and Lashkar began projecting itself through its charity wing, Jamaat-ud-Dawa, which runs a tightly organized network of hospitals and schools across Pakistan.

The Mumbai attacks propelled Lashkar-e-Taiba to notoriety. But since then, Mr. Saeed’s provocations toward India have been largely verbal. Last week he stirred anger there by suggesting that Bollywood’s highest-paid actor, Shah Rukh Khan, a Muslim, should move to Pakistan. In the interview, he said he prized talking over fighting in Kashmir.

“The militant struggle helped grab the world’s attention,” he said. “But now the political movement is stronger, and it should be at the forefront of the struggle.”

Pakistan analysts caution that Mr. Saeed’s new openness is no random occurrence, however. “This isn’t out of the blue,” said Shamila N. Chaudhary, a former Obama administration official and an analyst at the Eurasia Group, a consulting firm. “These guys don’t start talking publicly just like that.”

What it amounts to, however, may depend on events across the border in Afghanistan, where his group has been increasingly active in recent years. In public, Mr. Saeed has been a leading light in the Defense of Pakistan Council, a coalition of right-wing groups that lobbied against the reopening of NATO supply routes through Pakistan last year. More quietly, Lashkar fighters have joined the battle, attacking Western troops and Indian diplomatic facilities in Afghanistan, intelligence officials say.

The question now is what will happen to them once American troops leave. One possibility is a return to Lashkar’s traditional battleground of Kashmir, risking fresh conflict between nuclear-armed Pakistan and India.

But a more hopeful possibility, floated by some Western and Pakistani officials, is that Mr. Saeed would lead his group further into politics, and away from militancy.

“When there are no Americans in Afghanistan, what will happen?” said Mushtaq Sukhera, a senior officer with the Punjabi police who is running a fledgling demobilization program for Islamist extremists. “It’s an open question.”

A shift could be risky for Mr. Saeed: Some of his fighters have already split from Lashkar in favor of other groups that attack the Pakistani state. And much will depend on the advice of his military sponsors.

For their part, Pakistan’s generals insist they have abandoned their dalliance with jihadi proxy groups. In a striking speech in August, the army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, said the country’s greatest threat came from domestic extremism. “We as a nation must stand united against this threat,” he said. “No state can afford a parallel system of governance and militias.”

Five years of near-continuous battle against the Pakistani Taliban along the Afghan border, where more than 3,300 members of Pakistan’s security forces have been killed in the past decade, has affected army thinking, some analysts believe. Senior officers have lost colleagues and relatives, softening the army’s singular focus on India.

“This is a changed army,” said Shaukat Javed, a former head of the Intelligence Bureau civilian spy agency in Punjab Province. “The mind-set has changed due to experience, and pressure.”

But for all that, there is ample evidence that parts of the military remain wedded to jihadi proxies. In Waziristan, the army maintains close ties to the Haqqani Network, a major player in the Afghan insurgency. In western Baluchistan Province, it has used Sunni extremists to quell an uprising by Baluch nationalists — even though the same extremists also massacre minority Shiites.

And Mr. Saeed’s freedom to roam around Lahore — and, indeed, across Pakistan — suggests some generals still believe the “good” jihadis are worth having around.

Western intelligence officials say Lashkar’s training camps in northern Pakistan have not been shut down. One of those camps was the training ground of David C. Headley, an American citizen recently sentenced to prison by an American court for his role in the Mumbai attacks.

“There’s a strategic culture of using proxies,” said Stephen Tankel, an American academic and author of a book on Lashkar-e-Taiba. “And if that’s the tool you’re used to grabbing from the toolbox, it can be hard to let go.”

For all his apparent ease, Mr. Saeed has to walk a tightrope of sorts within the jihadi firmament. His support of the state puts him at odds with the Pakistani Taliban, which, he claims, are secretly supported by America and India — a familiar refrain in the right-wing media. “They want to destabilize Pakistan,” he said.

But that position leaves Mr. Saeed vulnerable to pressure from fighters within his own ranks who may still have Taliban sympathies. Western security officials say Lashkar has already suffered some defections in recent years..

“If he continues in this direction, the issue is how many people he can bring with him,” Mr. Tankel said.

But ultimately, he added, much depends on the Pakistani Army: “The army can’t dismantle these groups all at once, because of the danger of blowback. So for now they are putting them on ice. It’s too early to tell which way they will ultimately go.”


This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Zardari's high security house near completion
LAHORE, Feb 7:A sprawling high-security private residence for Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, complete with bomb-proof structures and a landing strip for small jets and helicopters, is nearing completion here. The compound in Bahria Town, spread over some 200 kanals or 25 acres, is named Bilawal House after Zardari's son Bilawal Bhutto Zardari. According to a senior Pakistan People's Party official from Punjab, who did not want to be named, the residence has been gifted to Zardari by property tycoon Malik Riaz Hussain. The bomb-proof home is surrounded by lawns that can accommodate up to 10,000 people and has a runway for private jets and helicopters. The residence has bedrooms, conference rooms and offices. The compound is surrounded by 30-inch high walls fitted with security gadgets. Once completed, the residence will have a three-tier
security system, sources said. Zardari, who is due to arrive in Lahore on Sunday, is expected to visit Bilawal House with his son, the sources said.
Bilawal House is located about 1.5 km from former premier Nawaz Sharif's palatial residence at Raiwind Road that is spread over 300 acres.
Sharif's residence has a mini zoo and is ringed by orchards and agricultural land. The Bhutto-Zardari family have another Bilawal House in
the southern port city of Karachi. The residence in Lahore will serve as the main base in Punjab province for Bilawal during campaigning for the upcoming general election. Property tycoon Malik Riaz Hussain, who is believed to be close to Zardari, was at the centre of a controversy last year
after he alleged that he funded three foreign trips by Arsalan Iftikhar, the son of Supreme Court Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry. Hussain also claimed he had spent Rs 342 million on Iftikhar to influence cases in the apex court.
The Supreme Court recently declared that matters involving Hussain and Iftikhar were a private issue between two individuals and they could resort to legal proceedings against each other

wig wrote:Zardari has been gifted a new bomb proof house in Lahore on 25 acres of land and with facilities to land flying machines. the gift is form malik riaz hussain
http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/epaper/

Anujan wrote:I had written a year or two back that there is not much chance for Pakistan except to legitimize various yahoos into political parties and the armed yahoos into national guard of some sort.

If this happens, LeT is on its way into becoming a Hezbollah type organization with a charity wing, running hospitals, a political wing and a terror wing. They would be a "legit" organization India can't complain much against, but at the same time, they will start bumping off their rivals from other parties, putting burkha on women etc.

If professor saheb enters politics, either he will fade into irrelevance or start bumping off people. Which is when things will become interesting.

arun wrote:Drone attacks, a case of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Military incompetence and cowardice on display or rather a case of the connivance of the military and other power elites of the Islamic Republic in violating their own nation’s sovereignty?

Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan yesterday proclaiming that the military and power elites of her country are not conniving in helping the US violate their own sovereignty and indeed the power elites of her country disapprove of visits by the national bird:

US drone strikes: There's 'no wink and nod' from Pakistan, ambassador says

Today the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s National Bird carried out yet another of its frequent preiregnations entirely unmolested nothwithstanding the vast amounts of money expended by the taxpayers of Pakistan in obtaining for their military Saab 2000 Erieye and ZDK-03 AEW&C’s, F-16 fighters, Spada 2000 and RBS-70 Bolide SAM’s, AMRAAM AAM’s, AN/TPS 77 Radars etc.

US drone strike kills three in N Waziristan: Express News

arun wrote:

Jhujar wrote:CIAIslam And Pakislam: Yeh Dosti With Posti on Polk Street

CIA used ISI facilities in Karachi, says US report

............. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s daughter Amrit Singh is one of the principal writers of the report.

Our PM's daughter is doing a lot more in bringinging Pakistani's to book than our own PM

Pakistan's first professional Twenty20 league was postponed indefinitely on Friday after complaints from investors over tight bidding deadlines and from players over scheduling conflicts.

The PSL's postponement was a setback for the PCB's hopes of reviving international cricket in Pakistan and convincing foreign players that it's safe to visit since incoming tours stopped following the deadly attack on the Sri Lanka team bus in 2009 in Lahore.

Anujan wrote:Apparently a lady news anchor conducted a raid of Led Lips massage paloul (run by a Chinese lady and all that ) live on her show. Please watch and enjoy.
[youtube]G88yKykJx6o[/youtu]

Satya_anveshi wrote: In Arabic it also means G@ndu. That's why when you ask a puki if he prefers to be called a chut!ya or a g@ndu, he prefers the latter.

Anujan wrote:^^^ eight dispatched by the national bird.

Anujan wrote:Apparently a lady news anchor conducted a raid of Led Lips massage paloul (run by a Chinese lady and all that ) live on her show. Please watch and enjoy.
[youtube]G88yKykJx6o[/youtu]

hnair wrote:

A_Rai wrote:Apparently ‘Pakistani’ in French means ‘terrorist’
Adventures of a bearded Paki in French lands.

a comment has to sneaks this in

It happened with me in East Germany but that experience was more intense than you can imagine. German commandos point the gun at me when they came to know we are from Pakistan and my friend was from KPK and i was from the border of Punjab and KPK and we were held and they ask all the stupid questions that you can imagine. When we told them that we are engineers we were told that how come any Pakistani can be an Engineer when Madressahs dont give higher education and there are no universities in Pakistan?. Then the next question was a Bombshell and that was why I dont look like an Exact Pakistani and why I am not brown enough and i have no answer to that question. I tried to explain them that Pakistan is a mixture of people of different ethnicity and races but they were not in any mood to listen.

Like a kitten opening its eyes for the first time, poor RAPE opens his eyes to the cruel world that sees only the brown bakistaniyat inside him. Much as he tries to explain how the blood of so many rapists from all ethnicities flow through his veins, jerry aint listening....

This one makes a great template post for trolling baki forums, btw

Anujan wrote:I also find it interesting that there were no customers during the raid. All maulaners, jernails and kernails were warned to stay away?