Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

[Anujan]

Mushahid "Mandela" Husain had this to say about Modi

Mushahid Hussain
‏@Mushahid
U-turn, as closer to Indian polls:US now ready to meet 'kosher' Modi, pol expediency trumps principles of human rights, selectively applied

[Prem]

Attracting foreign, local investment: Pakistan needs to invest 10% of GDP in infrastructure

Tamashalla South Asia Or Pakistani Asia

MALSILAMABAD: South Asia needs to spend as much as $2.5 trillion on infrastructure by 2020 to bring its power grids, roads and water supplies up to the standard needed to serve its growing population, a World Bank report says.Pakistan would need to increase it’s infrastructure development investment from existing 3% of the GDP to 10% of the GDP with policy interventions and improvement in regulations for attracting investment by facilitating by private sector and foreign investors.This would also require involvement by private sector foreign investors and efficiency improvement in the government as this goal would need to be met by setting short term, medium term and long term goals, World Bank expertsLuis Andres, Matias Herrera Dappe and Dan Billers co-author of the report informed a Video Conference arranged by the World Bank for journalists of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal.The report, “Reducing Poverty by Closing South Asia’s Infrastructure Gap”, is the first analysis of the region’s infrastructure needs by the World Bank. It says the region, which includes Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan and Sri Lanka, could address its “enormous” infrastructure needs by tapping private and public sector funds as well as by introducing reforms.“Many people in South Asia remain unconnected to a reliable electricity grid, a safe water supply, sanitary sewerage disposal, and sound roads and transport networks,” said Philippe Le Houérou, Vice President for the South Asia Region at the World Bank.If the region hopes to meet its development goals and not risk slowing down —or even halting— growth, poverty alleviation, and shared prosperity, it is essential to make a priority of closing its huge infrastructure gap, which the report defines as the gap between where South Asia’s infrastructure is today and where it should be. The task would be difficult but not impossible with a concerted effort by governments in the region, where access to infrastructure compares with Sub-Saharan Africa.
“For the past twenty years, the South Asia and East Asia regions have enjoyed similar growth rates. Yet South Asia’s access to infrastructure services lags significantly behind both East Asia and Latin America with some access rates comparable only to Sub-Saharan Africa,” said Dan Biller, report co-author and Sector Manager of the Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency Economics & Sustainability Group.For instance, in South Asia only 71 percent of the population has access to electricity, ahead of Sub-Saharan Africa at 35 percent, but well behind the rest of the developing world at above 90 percent. According to businesses in South Asia, a lack of electricity is the biggest barrier to their growth.South Asia is the region with the highest incidence of open defecation in the world—with 680 million people (41 percent of the population) relying on it in 2011. In terms of telecom access (measured as fixed and mobile lines per 100 people), South Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa rank at the bottom (72 and 54) with less than half the access found in Europe and Central Asia and Latin America and the Caribbean (157 and 125). This situation is of great concern given South Asia’s low level of urbanization, with most people living in rural areas, says the report

[Paul]

Can you elaborate Shiv?

I may have been mistaken. I think your message was unclear to me and on re reading it appears that you were referring to Pakistani Hindus I guess. I suppose I have no comment on whether Pakistani Hindus should become more spartan in their places of worship.

I misunderstood your post, thought it referred to India, and disagreed with the principle that Hindu worship should become spartan to ward off a threat. Indians temples have been architectural wonders - or at least great works of art and human labor of devotion. I was surprised that you seemed to be recommending that the fundamental hallmarks of civilization be drawn back in a "belt-tightening" as it were.

I was referring to a time when there was not enough security for Hindus in India(like in present day Pakistan) to practise their religion in peace and mass leaders like Tulsidas led the movement to spread the message to the people. The decentralized strategy followed by these movements have been replicated by the Swaminarayan movement (which incidentally builds Virat temples) and the Harekrishna ( is also now building Virat temples) movement.

A temple like the one devoted to Lord Venkateswara in Tirupati or the Padmabhaswamy temple in Kerala would be a prime target for the Orcs as these temples carry a lot of wealth. Temples should not be keeping wealth if security cannot be provided for them. Virat temples are a show of strength and are needed to hold ground and reassure their flock that their are sufficient followers to ward off predators.

Wahabis have built these fail safe mechanisms into their DNA unlike Shias (vulnerable to Sunni attacks on tombs of Zainab) and Ismailis - who as I pointed out earlier, could not recover from Halaku Khan's attack on their areas and have lost their primacy in the Persian dominated areas of Central Asia. As we saw in the exchange between the TTP Maulana and the PA Fauji, Islamists have have also lost their mosques in battles but I speculate that they recover relative quickly as they do not have psychological value and are used for scoring brownie points. They are trying to reduce their vulnerabilities while simultaneously increase their hold over the flock by controlling the two holy places of Islam which fall in the Arab heartland areas. This keep the narrative of Islam firmly in their control.

This is what I am stressing as the lesson to be learnt for Hindus.

We need a separate debate to understand the utility of Mutts of South India in retaining the hold over their flock in changing times. For ex. I remember my late father lamenting Brahmins not coming to Mutts like the Raghavendra Swamy Mutt in Hyderabad. Some of these Mutts are now supported by the Reddis and other non Brahmin communities. Are these Mutts still proving their utlility in retaining their hold over their flock? in these EJ charged days.

On another thread of course.

[Anujan]

April 4 is the 35th anniversary of ZAB lamp posting. Here is Zia explaining how Pakistan has free, fair, vibrant, independent judiciary and elections were going to be held immediately

[SSridhar]

NightWatch for the night of April 2, 2014

Pakistan: State-run television reported the Interior Ministry has rejected a request from former President Musharraf to go abroad for medical treatment and to see his ailing mother. Irfan Sadiqui, the prime minister's adviser on national affairs, told the PTV on Wednesday that the government rejected Musharraf's request as it could make it difficult for the government to bring him to court once he leaves the country.

Comment: It is probably politically impossible to allow Musharraf to leave at this stage of the proceedings against him. The Interior Ministry is the proper authority for making the decision. For now, Musharraf is still headed to trial.

Peace talks. A spokesman said the Pakistani Taliban would not extend the ceasefire that has been in place for the past month. However, the Taliban remain open to peace talks with the government. Some Taliban leaders said the government's inaction on their requests would lead to renewed attacks.

Comment: The government's limited prisoner relief is enough to keep the parties talking, but apparently not enough to prevent attacks from resuming.

[Anujan]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1097696/trial- ... ts-stalled

The proceeding in the Mumbai attacks case has come to a standstill as the special judge of the anti-terrorism court (ATC) has expressed his inability to conduct the trial of seven Pakistani suspects in the Adiala Jail due to security reasons.

[SanjayC]

Pakis barred from entering Kuwait.

Pakistanis excluded from Kuwait’s new visa plan

[Peregrine]

Pakis barred from entering Kuwait.

Pakistanis excluded from Kuwait’s new visa plan

The Muslim Brethren of the Land of the Pure and Home of the Terrorists have been BARRED-BANNED by their Muslim Ummah Brothers in Kuwait since 2011.

It is time that the Government of India takes cognizance of the Kuwait's BAN on Pakistanis and STOP issuing VISAS OF ANY KIND OR UNDER ANY PRETEXT to them thereby curtailing Terrorist Acts by the Pakistani Non-State Actors.

Of course this will have a negative effect on the Hindus who want to go to Hindu Pilgrimage Sites, like the Hinglaj Temple, but I am sure being Indian they will surely not begrudge the Indian Government 's actions to safeguard India's Security.

Cheers

[anupmisra]

Pakis barred from entering Kuwait.

Pakistanis excluded from Kuwait’s new visa plan

August company, no less. But, what about the bakis that are already in and have taken on arapic names? Are they restricted from re-entering if they leave for hajj?

[vishvak]

Didn't pakis help liberate Kuwait in the first place?

The ban, which was imposed in 2011, on nationals of these six countries was attributed to the “difficult security conditions in the six countries” and to “the remarkably increasing tendency of Kuwait-based nationals from these countries to apply for visas to bring into Kuwait relatives who faced or could face serious challenges in their home countries.” According to the sources, the decision to allow embassies to issue visas will now be followed by a series of meetings to agree on specific measures for the process and to ensure that applicants wanted in terrorism-related cases or suspected of plotting to undermine the country’s security and stability are not given the visa.

Can't pukis take this to UN for undermining clear-cut image of piouslands but only banning pukis like neighbors of pakis Afghans?

[anupmisra]

Pakis should complain that this ban will result in loss of $100 Billion per year to their economy. Also, don't forget the side effect on their society which will become more radicalized. No one surely can put a number on that.

[anupmisra]

Grand Sow-e-di gesture to their arab brothers. Saudi Arabia gifts 200 tons of dates to Pakistan

In an unprecedented move, the government of Saudi Arabia gifted 200 tonnes of dates to Pakistan on Wednesday

Director General ERC Captain Muhammad Aftab thanked Al-Khalidi on behalf of the government for the dates and expressed gratitude for the rather grand gesture of friendship

Stop!! We cant handle all this bonhomie. Think of the all those poor suffering saudies who have to for go their dates.

[anupmisra]

Oh the shame!! The insult...Whatever!

No takers for Afridi in Caribbean Premier League

Pakistan all-rounder Shahid Afridi – who offered to take over the reins of the national team after its miserable exit from the World T20 tournament – failed to secure a spot for himself in the Caribbean Premier League

Afridi was not selected by any of the six franchises part of the league

[Peregrine]

Pakis barred from entering Kuwait.

Pakistanis excluded from Kuwait’s new visa plan

August company, no less. But, what about the bakis that are already in and have taken on arapic names? Are they restricted from re-entering if they leave for hajj?

anupmisra Ji :

It is all about keeping any further denizens of the Land of the Pure and Home of the Terrorists from entering Kuwait :

The ban, which was imposed in 2011, on nationals of these six countries was attributed to the “difficult security conditions in the six countries” and to “the remarkably increasing tendency of Kuwait-based nationals from these countries to apply for visas to bring into Kuwait relatives who faced or could face serious challenges in their home countries.”

Cheers

[SSridhar]

Can't pukis take this to UN . . .

Yeah, they should go to ICJ. This is the usual conspiracy by the Yahud-Hanud-Nasara combine.

[SSridhar]

From the list of countries banned by Kuwait, it is clear that they are worried about jihadist terrorists. It has to be seen in combination with the proclamation by the Saudi King last week.

[chilarai]

Oh the shame!! The insult...Whatever!

No takers for Afridi in Caribbean Premier League

Pakistan all-rounder Shahid Afridi – who offered to take over the reins of the national team after its miserable exit from the World T20 tournament – failed to secure a spot for himself in the Caribbean Premier League

Afridi was not selected by any of the six franchises part of the league

wait for the : carribeans ki jehaniyat hi aisi ...

[anupmisra]

wait for the : carribeans ki jehaniyat hi aisi ...

That is because of all the evil slave yindoos that live in the Caribbean countries.

[ramana]

I think all those Saudi dates will cause stomach ache especially on hungry Paki stomachs.

Want some medicos to comment on this serious matter.

[Peregrine]

Pakistani baby accused of attempted murder

While many children his age are still learning how to crawl, a nine-month-old boy in Pakistan has been accused of attempted murder in a case observers say highlights endemic flaws in the country's legal system.

Baby Mohammad Musa along with his father and other family members was booked for throwing rocks at gas company officials in the working-class Ahata Thanedaran neighbourhood on February 1, the family's lawyer Chaudhry Irfan Sadiq told AFP Friday.

Cheers

[Prasad]

Attracting foreign, local investment: Pakistan needs to invest 10% of GDP in infrastructure

Tamashalla South Asia Or Pakistani Asia

What GDP? Gass domestic Product?

[member_22733]

According to the hung Bhutto: Grass Domestic Product.

[Nandu]

On the occasion of ZAB being converted to grass food, anybody got a link to the story where it is revealed that he got a lungi check?

[ArmenT]

Former President George W. Bush shows off his painting skills, by painting portraits of several world leaders during his time in office:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26890910

Perhaps the most unflattering portrait is that of the former Pakistan president, General Pervez Musharraf, a leader who liked to think of himself as a dashing former paratrooper rather than the tired and bloated figure represented here.

The extravagant bouffant, of which the general was justifiably proud, does not even make it into frame.

Maybe this is a form of artistic revenge. After all, when it came to fighting al-Qaeda and hunting down Osama Bin Laden, the Bush administration always suspected Islamabad of playing a double game: accepting American military aid but of not doing enough to flush out the mastermind of 9/11.

Nor is the outgoing Afghan president Hamid Karzai portrayed in a complimentary light. This, again, was a fraught relationship.

There's a portrait of MMS in the article as well.

[Nandu]

It is not that bad. http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/27/25/52/61 ... 22x350.jpg

Gola's toupee is hardly flattering anyway. Omitting it is no big loss.

[Prem]

It is not that bad. http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/27/25/52/61 ... 22x350.jpg
Gola's toupee is hardly flattering anyway. Omitting it is no big loss.

Look Like Kokopelli visited 9 months before Gola was born.

[member_22733]

^^^ Bliss to leave the native americans of southwest alone. Bliss

[Baikul]

Pakis barred from entering Kuwait.

Pakistanis excluded from Kuwait’s new visa plan

August company, no less. But, what about the bakis that are already in and have taken on arapic names? Are they restricted from re-entering if they leave for hajj?

Getting a Kuwaiti Vija could soon become a new term in the BR vocab...

[arun]

Pakistani baby accused of attempted murder

While many children his age are still learning how to crawl, a nine-month-old boy in Pakistan has been accused of attempted murder in a case observers say highlights endemic flaws in the country's legal system.

Baby Mohammad Musa along with his father and other family members was booked for throwing rocks at gas company officials in the working-class Ahata Thanedaran neighbourhood on February 1, the family's lawyer Chaudhry Irfan Sadiq told AFP Friday.

Cheers

Al Ham Sandwich ................ Finally "proof" that establishes the martial spirit of the Mohammadden "Momin" of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and confirms that one Pakistani "Momin" equals ten “Kaafir” “Dhimmi” Hindu Indian’s given that 9 month old “Kaafir” “Dhimmi” Hindu Indian babies are incapable of killing an adult.

[Philip]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1097753/no-return-ticket[b]
No return ticket
Irfan Husain
[/b]

IS hubris a culpable offence? Can you be tried for stupidity? In most cases, people are punished not for the crime they have committed, but for getting caught.

During his years in power, Musharraf never tired of telling us that he was a master strategist. But just as he sent in our troops into Kargil without a plan for a safe and honourable exit, he arrived in Pakistan without a return ticket.

I am not competent to get into the constitutional rights and wrongs of the treason case that Musharraf is entangled in. However, I must record my distaste at the glee over his discomfort that is evident in most television chat shows.

The self-righteous bombast and the barely concealed joy over the former president’s humiliation makes for nauseating viewing.

We in Pakistan have made it a habit to demonise and hound past leaders, forgetting any good they did, and focusing only on their mistakes. Anybody who has read my past columns will know that I hold no brief for Musharraf, but was he really the devil incarnate he is now being painted as?

The fact is that he expanded women’s representation in our assemblies, and did away with the pernicious separate electorates for minorities imposed by Zia.

Musharraf has been excoriated for his famous U-turn on Afghanistan, and his decision to make Pakistan an ally in the American ‘war on terror’. People forget American rage as well as the global support for Washington in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. With an American fleet off our coast, I wonder what any other Pakistani leader would have decided at the time.

We also forget the state of our economy when Musharraf staged his coup in 1999: already crippled by sanctions imposed after Nawaz Sharif’s nuclear tests, the military takeover triggered a fresh round of penal actions.

So in a very real sense, 9/11 provided us with a lifeline that Musharraf grasped with both hands. True, military rule was a high price to pay for these improvements.

Of course he was a dictator, and caused immense damage to our fragile institutions. But let us not forget that many of those who are railing against him today profited by his rule.

Whether we like it or not, for nearly a decade, Musharraf was the face of Pakistan for the outside world. In the West, he came across as a no-nonsense, can-do leader who was a crucial ally in the war against Al Qaeda.

Never mind that he simultaneously played a double game, cosying up to the ‘good Taliban’, while handing over Al Qaeda operatives for incarceration at Guantanamo.

Musharraf’s trial fits in with our image of a Third World country indulging in crude vengeance. Indeed, ever since Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was toppled and vindictively hanged by Ziaul Haq and his junta, it has been one unbroken record of past leaders being persecuted by their successors.

Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif indulged in this destructive pastime through the 1990s. ‘Accountability’ was the name of the game, with one leader after the other being toppled to become the target of legal and media trials for alleged corruption.

Not that either had clean hands by any means, but these political vendettas took a huge toll on the credibility of our leaders as well as the democratic system, creating a space for the army to exploit.

The fact is that as long as our political class does not get its act together, there will be Bonapartes who will be tempted to fill the vacuum.

It is very easy to blame the military for all our ills. But for all its faults, it is an integral and essential element of the country.

True, it often seems to be a state within a state, and its relationship with the civilian government is in desperate need of an overhaul. But humiliating the institution is not the way forward.

Already, the army is chafing under the restraints imposed by Nawaz Sharif in its much-awaited battle with the jihadis who have inflicted so many casualties on our security forces. To see their former chief being prevented from being at the bedside of his ailing 95-year-old mother must rankle deeply with our officer corps as well as our jawans.

More than these concerns, I believe the former president should be allowed to leave the country to demonstrate that just as we managed the peaceful transfer of power from one elected government to the next, we have emerged from the cycle of vendetta and political victimisation.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1097757/milit ... terference
Military’s continued interference
S. Akbar Zaidi

Newspapers reported that GHQ ‘convened’ a meeting of the main economic ministers, including the finance, commerce and water and power ministers, where these and other ministers had to ‘satisfy the military leadership’ over whether Pakistan should increase trade with India.

The ministry of commerce has argued that not only are there advantages to Pakistani consumers, it estimated that GDP would grow by two percentage points, and 500,000 jobs would be created in three years once this trade began.

To modify a popular cliché: if it is not the business of the government to be in business, it is certainly not the business of the military to interfere in civilian trade.

Extensive evidence shows that Pakistan’s economy and its people would benefit markedly by opening up trade with India. Clearly, Pakistan’s old-school military does not seem to have the interests of its people or of the country’s economy at heart. But then, it never has.

Its rather narrow and limited corporate interests have inflicted huge damage on Pakistan’s society, economy

and politics, with civilian governments having to bear the burden of numerous misadventures and misdeeds. Only a much stronger civilian society, particularly, a more self-confident political and democratic order, can end the military’s continued interference.

[anupmisra]

No return ticket
by Irfan Husain

1. Can you be tried for stupidity?

2. Musharraf never tired of telling us that he was a master strategist.

One - Tried for stupidity? Possibly, only if you get caught. But you definitely pay for stupidity. Eventually. Pakis have been paying for stupid, thoughtless acts since 1948 with their pants down, holding a bottle of linseed oil and with the world watching.

Two - Mushy, a master strategist? Ha! That's a joke worth retelling. Now here's the problem. Pakis, with their limited intellect, have always confused "tactic" for "strategy". A dumb move to occupy vacated posts was not a "brilliant strategy", just a "opportunistic tactic" which led to getting their asses whipped. But what do you expect from a mob of 200 million? Goals? Vision? Business plans? Only dumb moves.

[shravan]

Couple sentenced to death for blasphemy
http://www.dawn.com/news/1097870

TOBA TEK SINGH: A local court sentenced on Friday a Christian couple to death for blasphemy and fined them Rs100,000 each.

Shafqat Maseeh, watchman of Gojra’s Saint Cathedral School, and his wife Shagufta Maseeh were arrested on July 25 last year under Section 295C on the charge of sending blasphemous text messages to the complainants, shopkeeper Malik Mohammad Hussain and Gojra tehsil bar’s former president Anwar Mansoor Goraya.

The verdict was announced by additional district and sessions judge Amer Habib.

The case was heard in the district jail.

The couple confessed to have sent the messages.

[darshhan]

Couple sentenced to death for blasphemy
http://www.dawn.com/news/1097870

TOBA TEK SINGH: A local court sentenced on Friday a Christian couple to death for blasphemy and fined them Rs100,000 each.

Shafqat Maseeh, watchman of Gojra’s Saint Cathedral School, and his wife Shagufta Maseeh were arrested on July 25 last year under Section 295C on the charge of sending blasphemous text messages to the complainants, shopkeeper Malik Mohammad Hussain and Gojra tehsil bar’s former president Anwar Mansoor Goraya.

The verdict was announced by additional district and sessions judge Amer Habib.

The case was heard in the district jail.

The couple confessed to have sent the messages.

This is interesting. Both death and fine. The point is that if you are killing someone anyway, why will he pay you anthing.

[Baikul]

The point is that there is no point. Not in Allah's verdant garden of exotic delights.

[krishnan]

they wont be put to death till they pay the fine

[Vikas]

What is considered as blasphemous in Gods own $hittis-Tan ?

[Anujan]

Two points.

Apparently the couples' phone, from where the blasphemous text was supposedly sent to a Mullah was stolen before the text was sent. Conveniently, they send a blasphemous text to a Mullah. Even more conveniently, they had a property dispute with the Mullah. I am convinced this was all one big coincidence.

Also there is a spate of articles (even from Jihadi Sethi, Our Op-Ed Chair Marshal ityadi) all along the lines of "If Musharraf is prosecuted, will it prevent future coups? Why this pointless exercise? Why isnt everyone who was involved prosecuted and only Musharraf?" I think the Talib Mullah in the youtube video refuted arguments like this the best "If we committed sins and omissions in the past, does it mean we should continue doing it?"

Such clarity of thought! Yet another reason why the land of the pure deserves the government of the more pure.

[Prem]

Four kidnapped Iranian border guards released in Pakistan

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/l ... z2y339jS5b

TEHRAN -- Four Iranian border guards kidnapped two months ago by Sunni Muslim militants along the nation’s southeastern frontier with Pakistan have been released in Pakistan, Iranian news agencies reported Friday.A fifth kidnapped border guard was reported executed last month by his captors. His body has been handed over to Iranian authorities, according to media accounts.The case sparked outrage in Iran and inflamed tension between Iran and Pakistan, where the abducted guards were apparently held.Iranian officials accused Pakistan of lax security along the two nations' notoriously lawless frontier, long a hub for arms smugglers and drug traffickers. Tehran had suggested that it might send forces into Pakistan to free the captive guards.A massive social media campaign was launched in Iran on behalf of the five abductees.A Sunni Muslim militant faction, Jaish al-Adl (Army of Justice) said it was responsible for the abductions and the execution of one of the guards.
The group has been active in the borderlands between predominantly Shiite Iran and Pakistan, home to a Sunni majority and Shiite minority. Iran calls Jaish al-Adl a terrorist organization and says it operates from sanctuaries in Pakistan’s Baluchistan region.Last October, the same group claimed responsibility for the killings of 14 Iranian border guards.The kidnappers had demanded the release of Sunni prisoners in Iran and Syria in exchange for the abducted guards’ freedom. There was no official word Friday on any prisoners being freed.The four kidnapped guards were handed over to Iranian representatives in Pakistan but had not yet returned to Iran, Iran’s official Press TV reported.

[Prem]

Dekho Malsi Aaa Gya

70-year-old man marries 12-year-old girl in Nosheroferoz
( check the remarks confirmirng the arrival of mostest latest moral force in GasTimepassingstan)

NOSHEROFEROZ- Police arrested a 70-year-old man who got married with a 12-year-old girl today.The police also arrested ‘Nikah Khwan’. The police raided a house in Tharo Shah area soon after the Nikah ceremony and stopped further ceremonies of the wedding before arresting the two. The girl was also taken in protective custody.

[ArmenT]

Maybe this should be in the BENIS thread, but yes, this is an actual album and it is available from Amazon:
Clicky here

In case you're wondering, this is the band that made this album. Yep, Pakis suddenly discovering their "Indian" ethnicity. Quite a controversial bunch too.