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Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 31 Aug 2010 02:23
by suryag
^^^
Daily pioneer seems to be balanced and more nationalistic than other newspapers. Have they ever tried their hand at a tv channel, will definitely have more viewers than ibn or ndtv

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 31 Aug 2010 03:11
by krisna
suryag wrote:^^^
Daily pioneer seems to be balanced and more nationalistic than other newspapers. Have they ever tried their hand at a tv channel, will definitely have more viewers than ibn or ndtv
IIRC they were in some sort of financial trouble, somehow I think they have come away from that.
They dont get "paid news" as from ex TOi and other news outlets. Hence their money sources are limited unless someone with nationalist zeal and money comes around.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 01 Sep 2010 11:42
by Stan_Savljevic
Anti-Maoist brain Andhra top cop
http://telegraphindia.com/1100901/jsp/n ... 881865.jsp
Andhra Pradesh has picked as its police boss the brain behind its successful anti-Maoist offensive, superseding two senior officers following a prod from the Union home ministry. K. Aravinda Rao, whose strategies were key to Andhra becoming the only state to virtually drive the Maoists out, took over as director-general of police (DGP) from Girish Kumar who retired today. Rao had set up a special intelligence cell, planned covert operations and infiltrated the ranks of the Maoists. It allowed him to track the guerrillas’ movements and gain precise information about their leaders, many of whom were eliminated. The 1977-batch IPS officer had also been accurate in assessing the Maoists’ firepower and finances and identifying their acquaintances in government and political circles.

Although Rao has hardly 10 months left before he retires, the Union home ministry apparently wanted a strategist at the crease in case a major offensive was launched against the Maoists in neighbouring states or peace talks began. Rao has two main tasks at hand. One, he must prevent the Maoists from returning to Andhra if they face the heat in Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand and Orissa. Two, he has to prepare the state police for a possible flare-up of the Telangana statehood agitation.
Endless wait for news of captives ---- Relatives of policemen abducted after Lakhisarai encounter in dark as clueless officials grope for information
http://telegraphindia.com/1100901/jsp/b ... 881020.jsp
List of 8 for hostage 4
http://telegraphindia.com/1100901/jsp/b ... 881017.jsp
After the battle with police in the Kodashi valley on Sunday, the Maoists have now resorted to pressure tactics on the state government. The Naxalites said the four abducted police personnel who are being held captive would be set free once the Maoists who are locked up in jails are released. The outfit has started a bargaining game with the state government since last evening, through the media.
...
The eight persons — Jay Paswan, Bijoy Chourasia, Ramvilash Tanti, Arjun Koda, Ramesh Tirkey, Promod Barnawal, Ratuva Koda and Prem Bhuia — are lodged in different jails across eastern Bihar.
...
A high placed source, however, claimed that the Maoists have demanded Rs 80 crore from the state government for the release of the abducted cops. When contacted, not even a single officer was ready to even talk to the media. “The government reportedly denied setting the eight hardcore Naxalites free from jails but is ready to provide the amount demanded,” the sources said. They pointed out that earlier the Jamui district administration had paid nearly Rs 40 lakh after the Kodashi carnage by the Maoists at Sikendra block in February. The sources hinted at a possible shift of the CRPF camp from Kajra High School premises to elsewhere outside Lakhisarai district. “A high level meeting is going on and the marching orders for the 131 battalion of CRPF would be released soon,” the sources said.
Meanwhile,
The Bihar government has revised the list of elusive members of the outlawed CPI(Maoist) in view of stepped up activities of the banned organisation. The names of about six hardcore squad members have been included in the list of fugitives.
1) Vijay Kumar Arya alias Jaipal
2) Rekha Yadav
3) Anurag Yadav
4) Ram Binay Ravidas alias Sudhakarji alias Ranjanji
5) Shambhu Mahto
6) Murari Singh
http://telegraphindia.com/1100901/jsp/b ... 881021.jsp
SATP:
The growing links between the Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist) and some of the militant outfits of the Northeast region was discussed in greater detail in the conference of the Directors General of Police (DGPs) and Inspectors General of Police (IGPs) of all the States held in New Delhi on August 25, according to Assam Tribune. Official sources said that though the CPI-Maoist is yet to have strong presence in the Northeast States, the group is trying to maintain close links with some of the militant outfits of the region. Sources said that it is now an established fact that the CPI-Maoist has established strong links with Manipur based People’s Liberation Army (PLA) and leaders of the PLA had meetings with CPI-Maoists in Jharkhand. Sources said that senior Maoist leaders also visited Manipur in 2009 and it is believed that both the groups would be benefited from mutual understanding and the PLA cadres are in a position to provide training to the Maoist cadres.

The security agencies have come across links between the CPI-Maoist and the National Socialist Council of Nagaland-Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM) which is under cease-fire agreement with the Union Government. Sources said that the security agencies have definite information of NSCN-IM leaders attending a meeting of the Maoist groups in Dandakaryana in Chattisgarh and the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) has taken serious note of the situation and the matter was taken up with the NSCN-IM leaders. Sources said that the CPI-Maoist has openly supported all the “nationality struggles” including the struggle of the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA). The report adds that Maoists have started issuing statements supporting the cause of the ULFA and CPI-Maoist leader Koteshwar Rao alias Kishenji recently openly extended support to the ULFA in an interview.
DNA reports that the People’s Committee against Police Atrocities (PCPA), a Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist) frontal organisation, announced its decision to contest the 2011 West Bengal assembly elections on August 30. PCPA will be fielding candidates in the three Maoist strongholds of West Midnapore, Bankura and Purulia Districts. Most of the PCPA candidates will be fielded from West Midnapore. PCPA will officially submit an application to the Election Commission seeking “bow and arrow” as their party symbol. “If the commission does not approve of our symbol, we will contest as independent candidates,” PCPA General Secretary Manoj Mahato said. Mahato did not comment on whether PCPA would contest independently as a party or as an ally of a bigger Political Party. He also refused to identify the PCPA candidates who will contest. State intelligence branch sources said that they had information about PCPA’s intention to contest the State Assembly polls. “As per our information besides Manoj Mahato, former PCPA chief Chhatradhar Mahato might also file nominations from jail,” a senior intelligence official said.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 02 Sep 2010 18:56
by Nihat
Maoists kill one of the abducted Bihar policemen
Patna: Maoists have killed one of the abducted Bihar policemen, Abhay Prasad Yadav, on Thursday following the expiry of their deadline to the state government to release eight of their comrades in lieu of the kidnapped security personnel. Bihar ADG Intelligence confirmed that Yadav, officer in-charge of the Manikpur outpost in Lakhisarai district, was killed by the Maoists.

Maoist spokesperson Avinash called up some local media persons and said that Yadav had been killed after a "jan adalat" pronounced him guilty.

According to sources the dead body of Yadav will be handed over to government officials by 8 pm near Jamui. The rebels have given a new deadline of 10 am Friday for the release of the three other policemen still held hostage by them.

Enraged by the killing of Yadav, Bihar government ordered an all-out offensive against the Maoists.

"Our policemen also have human rights. I have got media reports that one of the hostages has been killed. We are ready for talks, whoever wants to come for talks can come forward. There will be no police action if Maoists wants to talk," said an enraged Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar in Patna.

"We are always concerned about human rights. People should believe in democracy, why they do not fight elections. We will not be disturbed by one such incident," he said.

The four policemen who were kidnapped are Rupesh Kumar Sinha, Lokus Tete, Mohammad Ehsaan and Yadav.

Rupesh Kumar Sinha is a resident of Bettiah in Bihar. He is the only son of his parents and the sole bread winner of his family. He is a trainee Sub Inspector with Bihar Police. Tete is a Hawaldar with the Bihar Military Police and hails from Koleibera in Jharkhand's Simdega district.

Hawaldar Mohammad Ehsaan is a father of four children and hails from Goregaon village in Jharkhand. Yadav's wife and daughter live in Patna.

This makes my blood boil , If given a choice between finishing off TSP and slow death to each and every Naxal I would any day choose the latter. The police have never killed a naxal in custody but perhaps it's time we re-think the policy of arresting naxals, much better to neutralize them then and there.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 02 Sep 2010 19:08
by Dilbu
But what is being done for releasing the other three policemen? I cannot find any news on that.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 02 Sep 2010 19:13
by Aditya_V
Human RIghts Orgs cheer the activities of the poor impovrished tribal who cannot get any food but buy guns mortars satellite phones Blackberry's and ammunition and Kill Million dollar earning Police Constables. WTF.

Can we use this opportinity to take SV, ARoy and co . to negotiate with the Maoists for the realease of these men.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 02 Sep 2010 21:29
by Hiten
Was wondering how difficult would it be to release the maoists, after inserting a tracking beacon into one of their bodily orifices, say the rectum. Once released & they meet up with more of their "comrades", security guys could move in to confront them - would, IMO, be an effective way of harvesting maoists who could then be re-settled into our prisons.

With GPS tracker-embedded entry-level cellphones now available, cost or form factor of such a beacon should not be in issue, I think. In any case once apprehended these beacons could simply be reused on other comrades after nature takes its course in bringing them back out of their bodies.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 02 Sep 2010 21:54
by SRoy
Aditya_V wrote:Human RIghts Orgs cheer the activities of the poor impovrished tribal who cannot get any food but buy guns mortars satellite phones Blackberry's and ammunition and Kill Million dollar earning Police Constables. WTF.
The tribals do not "buy" the weapons or comm equipments.
These are are "issued" to them when they join an outfit. Funds come from elsewhere and the Maoist leadership they buys the stuff or sometime loot them from govt. armouries.
Aditya_V wrote: Can we use this opportinity to take SV, ARoy and co . to negotiate with the Maoists for the realease of these men.
Absolutely not. No need to legitimize the existence of these busybodies.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 02 Sep 2010 21:54
by Muppalla
Aditya_V wrote:Human RIghts Orgs cheer the activities of the poor impovrished tribal who cannot get any food but buy guns mortars satellite phones Blackberry's and ammunition and Kill Million dollar earning Police Constables. WTF.

Can we use this opportinity to take SV, ARoy and co . to negotiate with the Maoists for the realease of these men.
This is a huge problem.

Police are always demonized but very little on their human side. Some years ago, I happened to meet one of the police person's family dead in an operation like this. Government gives a compensatory job to one of the elgible and beyond that no one can understand their life's trauma. When someone sends their son/daughter (or marries off to one) in armed forces, there is something that they know about life's risk. A policeman is not same and the risk is not expected. The families go through trauma and shock. For Armed forces there are someone to console and there are not many who abuse them. In case of police it is all negative.

Regarding negotiations with SV, ARoy etc., there was a precedent in 1980s in AP. The police under TDP government formed some fictious group and kidnapped Kannabhiraman (Civil liberties group head) and others in response to Naxals kidnapping seven IAS officers. The Naxals need the overground helpers desperately and there was an agreement to release both. That was very good handling.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 02 Sep 2010 22:52
by vijayk
Muppalla wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Human RIghts Orgs cheer the activities of the poor impovrished tribal who cannot get any food but buy guns mortars satellite phones Blackberry's and ammunition and Kill Million dollar earning Police Constables. WTF.

Can we use this opportinity to take SV, ARoy and co . to negotiate with the Maoists for the realease of these men.


Regarding negotiations with SV, ARoy etc., there was a precedent in 1980s in AP. The police under TDP government formed some fictious group and kidnapped Kannabhiraman (Civil liberties group head) and others in response to Naxals kidnapping seven IAS officers. The Naxals need the overground helpers desperately and there was an agreement to release both. That was very good handling.
Awesome strategy. Can somebody kidnap ARoy, Prannay Roy, Burkha Dutt, Teesta Setlvad amd make them eat some animal crap forcibly just for fun? I wish no harm to these poopy heads. They can be then dumped in horse manure or some thing like that. :mrgreen:

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 03 Sep 2010 16:55
by JE Menon
>>Was wondering how difficult would it be to release the maoists, after inserting a tracking beacon into one of their bodily orifices, say the rectum... cost or form factor of such a beacon should not be in issue...

Form factor certainly an issue boss... Clearly we don't want to be the cause of any extraordinary khulji. Human rights and all that...

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 04 Sep 2010 18:44
by krisna
PCPA general secretary arrested
In a major success for the joint forces, general secretary of People's Committee Against Police Atrocities, Manoj Mahato, and another Maoist cadre were arrested during massive operations in West Midnapore district, a senior police official said today.
Both Manoj and Nabakumar are big catches for the joint forces and we hope we will be able to catch some of the other top leaders who are still at large, in the coming days," he said.
Asked about Mahato's relations with the Maoists, Verma said, "There is no difference between the PCPA and the Maoists. We have evidence that Mahato was directly involved with the Maoists. We believe the PCPA is a frontal organisation of Maoists."
Asked about the surrender of Maoists and PCPA cadre, he said he expected a number of them would surrender in the next two to three days. To a question about areas where the Maoists and PCPA still held sway, Verma said these were Goaltore, Sarenga, Salboni, Pirakata and some portions of Kotwali police station areas.
Questioned about the existence of camps of alleged armed CPI-M cadre in the district, Verma evaded a direct reply saying, "I can say we have taken action against carrying arms in the district.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 09:49
by Stan_Savljevic
Bihar: Maoists release 3 abducted policemen
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/sep/ ... icemen.htm

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 10:04
by Hari Seldon
^^^ How compassionate of the maoists only.

Now, I can only pray that the bihar gubmint doesn't give in to cowardice and poll pressures (elections this december in Bihar, no?) and release the 8 reds in question.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 10:06
by TonyMontana
Hiten wrote:Was wondering how difficult would it be to release the maoists, after inserting a tracking beacon into one of their bodily orifices, say the rectum. Once released & they meet up with more of their "comrades", security guys could move in to confront them - would, IMO, be an effective way of harvesting maoists who could then be re-settled into our prisons.
Or you could skip a few steps. Seen the movie, "The Dark Kinght" lately?

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 11:27
by Pratyush
Stan_Savljevic wrote:Bihar: Maoists release 3 abducted policemen
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/sep/ ... icemen.htm
At what price?

The news reports dont mention the release of the 8 Maoist leades in Bihars jails. Were they released or not.

That is the question.

JMT

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 11:33
by Pratyush
The beheaders

A nice blog from the Tarun Vijay, Dont rally know why he is allowed to publish his views at secuar TOI. Considering all his blogs are of a "Hindu Nationalist" Character.

Some of the relevant excerpts of the blog.
In India, it's not just the Maoists, the Marxists of a different variety too have been killing RSS and BJP workers in Tellicherry, Kasargod and other southern areas to stop the saffron spread in their crumbling bastions. Maoists, the 'biggest problem India is facing today' in the words of the Prime Minister, have killed so far 10,000 Indians in the most brutal fashion.


Where do the Indian state and media stand in this scenario? They are busy either celebrating Sonia's re-ascendancy on a family conglomerate or making noises on the CWG 's filth, 'building ' a prince for Indian democracy or waging a war against what they love to call 'saffron terror', eying UP and Bihar elections.
Now, look at the recent occurrence of the communist revolutionary spirit. Abhaya Prasad Yadav, sub-inspector, Bihar Police ,was caught with three colleagues from Lakhisarai and taken to a 'Jan Adalat', a kangaroo court run by the Maoists where Lucas was 'awarded' a death sentence without an appeal and executed with an unprecedented secular alacrity in times when Parliament attackers wait endlessly for their final hour in spite of a court order. Everyone had a fear that these abducted police men might be killed. Abhay's wife, Rajni, and their children, Dhruvswamini, Shalini, Minakshi and Anand Shankar, and Lucas's wife, Pyari, and three teenage daughters, Anjela, Majula and Neelam, sat on a pleading dharna at the gates of Bihar's chief minister's residence only to be given the news of Lucas's death.
Maoists, the blue eyed 'revolutionaries' of Delhi's de-Indianised glitterati, love beheading their captives. There have been several other incidents earlier too. Headline after headline describing the gory, Taliban-style beheading incidents by Naxals:
Interesting choice of words.
The road to sanity and civility passes through human values. That's the greatest ideology. The silence of those who say they belong to some sort of secularism, on the barbarism committed in the name of the ideologies they share is as condemnable as the heinous acts of violence done by any person belonging to any faith or ideology.
Is he not a Hindu nationalist. TOIlet has allowed him to published. It must be an editorial aberation from TOI.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 12:00
by Nihat
Stan_Savljevic wrote:Bihar: Maoists release 3 abducted policemen
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/sep/ ... icemen.htm
IMHO , the naxals had no option on this , they must have seen on televisionthe outcry the murder of Tete created. Had they executed the remaining 3 inspectors the anti-naxal hysteria would have peaked and Bihar Govt. would have all the more reason to intensify ops. . They also probably took not of the reaction from the beheading of Francis Induwar and backed off.

They're stuck between a rock and a hard place as far as ideology goes. Earlier they fed of India's lack of resources but now when GoI is undertaking intensive development activities as well as countering violence with force of its own, the naxals have to come for talks eventually or risk being wiped out (physically and ideologically).

If they do come for talks, then what can they possibly demand - development at most and GoI would gladly oblige as it has the money now to pursue ambitious rural development. In another 5 years it's be a total loose-loose situation for these pigs.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 12:09
by Pratyush
Nihat,

The pigs are not asking for development. They are trying to seek the powere in the Indian nation without contesting elections. Their primary objective is to obstruct the growth of the country rather then enhancing it.

If you pay attention to the areas where they are the strongest. You will see those areas as the least developed in the country. Yet they are sabotaging all the development efforts in those areas. Such as blowing up the schools and local primary health care centers.

Even the industries are being sabotaged by the Naxals.

If the objective was development then at least they would support the devlopment of laocal industry. But they don't. Only create and feed disaffaction against the state. That is the motto of these pigs.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 13:36
by Sachin
Hari Seldon wrote:Now, I can only pray that the bihar gubmint doesn't give in to cowardice and poll pressures (elections this december in Bihar, no?) and release the 8 reds in question.
If I am not mistaken two naxalite leaders were arrested by the Bihar Police yesterday. This was reported on News on TV. What surprised me was that when 3 policemen were abducted, the bihar authorities went ahead and picked up a few more naxalites. This gave me a feeling that it was a "show of strength" move by the Bihar Govt. That is to clearly tell the naxalites that "even if you hold 3 police officers, we know where your folks are and would continue to hunt them down". And looks like the stubborn stance yeilded results.

BTW, who is this Swami Agnivesh fellah? In this report (Malayalam) he whines that the police would have trapped naxalites using him as a bait ;). The police should now leak a report which says Swami Agnivesh, deliberatly provided information :D. That would be fun.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 13:43
by Hari Seldon
^^^Swami agniwaste is a 400% commie fraud. Dresses like Vivekananda just like ARoy drops Suzanne from her full name - to fool, inveigle, bamboozle, propagandize, sow FUD and wantonly mislead. IIRC, a moon or so ago, BRFites ripped open agnivesh(ya)'s many veils.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 13:54
by Singha
swami agnivesh and rajmohan gandhi have been doing the guru/mediator/peace broker thing for decades now. saw them in action 1991 - two DECADES ago and both were kind of pushing into middle age then. some people are truly ageless and evergreen.

I also keep getting requests on LinkedIn from unknown "thought leaders" and "disruptive thinkers" presumably trying to gather a following and be the
next shiv khera, deepak chopra or edward de bono-MKI.

everyone has got a bee in their bonnet to be a "star" rather than operate quietly and effectively in the shadows, closing the books and going
home to enjoy mead, 40" LCD TV and family.

as the Buddha said _ "desire is the root of many evils" .... more u scale back desires, pressures tend to fall away and you can operate with a free hand
as a rogue warrior as the lawd intended.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 17:48
by Nihat
Pratyush wrote:Nihat,

The pigs are not asking for development. They are trying to seek the powere in the Indian nation without contesting elections. Their primary objective is to obstruct the growth of the country rather then enhancing it.

If you pay attention to the areas where they are the strongest. You will see those areas as the least developed in the country. Yet they are sabotaging all the development efforts in those areas. Such as blowing up the schools and local primary health care centers.

Even the industries are being sabotaged by the Naxals.

If the objective was development then at least they would support the devlopment of laocal industry. But they don't. Only create and feed disaffaction against the state. That is the motto of these pigs.
Indeed Pratyush,

you are right when you say that Naxals are acting only under the guise of development, their true motive is to overthrow the union in large and prefrebly impoverished parts of the nation.

What I was saying was in the same context too, I meant that assuming the naxals did have to talk to GoI (owing to variety of factors) then what could they possibly demand from the Govt., they could not ask for their original demand i.e. to overthrow the rule of the state and establish a Naxal nation. They would have to focus on the development plank onleee.. and certainly the Govt. is willing to listen in that context.

This will automatically lead to demise of Naxalism, we must counter their intention i.e. to keep the junta impoverished and angry and pursuade them to take up arms.

There are a few rapid naxals for whom violence is a way of life, they are known as politburo members - there is no option but to eliminate them and after that India's natura rise to prosperity will surely be the death of Naxalism. Slowly but surely this would happen, perhaps in the next 5 yrs. or so..

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 06 Sep 2010 17:56
by brihaspati
No - their strategy will be to demand autonomy. They would want to carve out a territory that restricts within the legal framework that prevents rashtryia and "outsider" intervention as much as possible. This is an interim setup where they will consolidate their power for the next phase of the push. They know that once the "parliamentary road" is adopted in full - they will eventually go the CPI(M) way. So they need a structure that can control and intervene in the "parliamentary process".

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 07 Sep 2010 03:50
by Suppiah
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 507992.cms

Rapist goons' propaganda yellow daily, which knew how to come out with a strong opinion piece against India interfering in Nepal, somehow forgot about this one....

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 07 Sep 2010 05:42
by VinodTK
A killing that has the Maoists rattled
The Maoist leadership is so unnerved at the loss of Azad because the Indian security apparatus has been able to track down other commanders as well. Most of them feel that they are next in line.

Sources reveal that on several occasions, Indian agencies were successful in ascertaining the exact location of Kishanji, but deliberately allowed him to slip on the orders of the government, for tactical reasons. Reportedly, on one occasion, it was done at the behest of the West Bengal government

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 07 Sep 2010 05:47
by Raja Bose
I have not found any conclusive account of the Lakhisarai encounter yet - did all the cops in the team either get KIA or taken prisoner?? This is the 1st time I am hearing of cops getting taken prisoner after a gun battle by the Maoists.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 07 Sep 2010 08:59
by Yayavar
Raja Bose wrote:I have not found any conclusive account of the Lakhisarai encounter yet - did all the cops in the team either get KIA or taken prisoner?? This is the 1st time I am hearing of cops getting taken prisoner after a gun battle by the Maoists.
Did not hear it out myself (yet), but here is a link I found: http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/b ... ter/160908

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 07 Sep 2010 09:19
by Raja Bose
viv, Good find. The cops in the pics are wearing camo and seem to be equipped with paramilitary style webbing - don't look like regular Bihar police to me.

Captured Maoist confesses to killing Tete

From the article:
Tete was held hostage along with three other policemen. Eight cops were injured and as many as 34 police weapons, including an AK-47 and Insas rifles, were looted by the Maoists :shock: .
The number of captured weapons looks high given that 7 KIA, 11 WIA and 4 captured. Good job by the Bihar police capturing the pigs so soon after such a setback. I hope Pinto maharaj is undergoing special khatirdaari for his role in Tete's death.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 07 Sep 2010 09:29
by Pratyush
brihaspati wrote:No - their strategy will be to demand autonomy. They would want to carve out a territory that restricts within the legal framework that prevents rashtryia and "outsider" intervention as much as possible. This is an interim setup where they will consolidate their power for the next phase of the push. They know that once the "parliamentary road" is adopted in full - they will eventually go the CPI(M) way. So they need a structure that can control and intervene in the "parliamentary process".
In a way that they become a super parliament. Now, where have seen this before? Form the government without any responsibilities.

An overgrown Nepal. That is what they wish to create. No wonder the PM calls them the most serious internal security threat to the integrity on the nation.

The only solution possible with people of this nature is to liquidate the leadership. As any negotiations will only serve to legitimize them.

Also, those who don't wish to remain and retain the protection of the Indian Constitution dont deserve the prtection granted by it.

JMT

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 07 Sep 2010 09:29
by Raja Bose
Abhay Yadav (one of the 4 captured) describes encounter and subsequent capture.

'Maoists told us Tete sent to another group'

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 07 Sep 2010 09:35
by Hari Seldon
Pratyush wrote:The only solution possible with people of this nature is to liquidate the leadership. As any negotiations will only serve to legitimize them.

Also, those who don't wish to remain and retain the protection of the Indian Constitution dont deserve the prtection granted by it.

JMT
+1. Only.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 07 Sep 2010 09:50
by Sachin
One thing which I noticed here was the quickness with which the Bihar Police picked up a few naxalites who were involved in this kidnapping. So looks like the Bihar police were not sleeping and they decided to act when it was some of their own folks who got kidnapped and faced death. This would also make the naxalites worried, because it clearly proves that the police now have some sort of ground level intelligence. May Bihar Police do a "Jayaram Padikkal" on the Naxalites, and leave them in chaos and confusion.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 07 Sep 2010 22:30
by suryag

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 08 Sep 2010 06:34
by brihaspati
Regional police is always more effective in dealing with Naxalite type of movements. The crucial trigger is the accidental or planned or collateral damage - hit on police or regional forces themselves. These type of extermist and armed movements cannot survive for generations unless they are penetrated by the "state" and they penetrate the "state" in turn. The growth of such symbiotic relationship means the police knows quite well who is doing what, and just plays along with political interests in the manipulation of such movements for electoral purposes.

However, the police or other security services do not think of themselves as part of the population they are supposed to "serve" - but firmly as a continuation of the colonial "superior" "raj". Therefore, they can afford to play along with political pressures as long as the "subject populations" pay the price. Only when they are themselves "hit" this non-chalance gets thrown out of the window. All the information, undercovers, and the tabs within the criminal networks are immediately activated for retribution.

The central forces, or the army cannot do this because they are unlikely to have the symbiotic relationships in the local networks.

So if even the "rashtra" wants to finish off the Maoists quickly - it has only to ignite the "local police" by "arranging" for a few "outrages" on the police. The rest will take care of itself. The police have the confidence of blanket protection from powerful regional and political interests [who also have their dirt taken care of by the same] - unless of course they trip up on core political fads of "national regimes" like acting "non-secular".

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 10 Sep 2010 06:49
by shukla
Govt invites chopper bid for anti-Naxal operations
With Indian Air Force choppers tied up in United Nations peacekeeping roles, the government has floated a global tender on Wednesday to hire more than a dozen MI-17 all-weather choppers to ramp up air support for security forces engaged in anti-Naxal operations. The armour-plated choppers to minimise damage from firing — will be used for evacuating casualties, search and rescue operations, movement of armed troops and surveillance.

Central and state security forces have just half-a-dozen choppers deployed on anti-Naxal duties and have been seeking more aerial support. The IAF had earlier made it clear that it would not be able to spare more choppers for anti-Naxal operations."Since the air force was falling short of choppers, we had received approval from the Cabinet Committee on Security to hire choppers on wet lease," a home ministry official said. This means that the successful bidder would have to provide necessary crew, maintenance as well as insurance. The contract would be valid for a year in the first instance, extendable up to three years. The home ministry will have the operational control of the helicopters.

The shortage of crew and spare-parts has been hampering the existing chopper-fleet run by the Border Security Force in anti-Naxal and other operations. The government wants the choppers to be civil registered but has specifications of a military mould such as slithering facilities and armour plating. The ministry has also insisted that the choppers have a minimum airlift capacity of 18-20 fully equipped personnel and fly to air destinations at least 400 km without refuel.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 10 Sep 2010 08:28
by Sanjay M

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 20 Sep 2010 09:47
by Raghavendra
Two killed in Maoist-villager gunfight in Bihar http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20100919/14 ... unfig.html

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 21 Sep 2010 03:47
by Stan_Savljevic
SATP:
Times of India reports that 'Tech Jagan' alias 'Tech Raju' alias Mallojula Srinivasa Chary (33), a top cadre of the Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist), surrendered before Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCP) D. Nagendra Kumar at L. B. Nagar Police Station on September 18. Tech Jagan had a reward of INR 200,000 on his head. Yacharam Inspector B Srinivas Rao said 'Tech Jagan' joined the Rachakonda Dalam (squad) in 2004 attracted by the Maoist ideology. Later, he was transferred to the Nallamalla area and then shifted to the Andhra-Orissa Border (AOB) during 2008. Srinivas Rao said 'Tech Jagan' was involved in an encounter with Police in Mannanur in Mahbubnagar District in 2004-05 and another assault in Nallamalla forest range in Prakasam District. He used to look after the repair work of weapons of the Maoists and was hence given the name 'Tech Jagan'. Srinivasa Chary was unhappy with the shift in the policies of the Maoists and thus decided to join the mainstream, the Inspector claimed.

Re: The Red Menace

Posted: 21 Sep 2010 13:40
by Nihat
Naxal leader Usendi's aide arrested in Chhattisgarh
He was associated with the Jal Mukti Morcha for a while, the police official said. Giri's arrest will help police to break into the Naxal intelligence network in urban areas of Chhattisgarh, Kumar said, adding he is being quizzed for further information.