Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 03, 2010

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 06 Oct 2010 18:12

Hussain lost to India’s Rajender Kumar in the final of the 55-kilogram event.

Reigning champion Kumar successfully defended his title without conceding a single point in the tournament, making it four wrestling golds for the hosts.

He dominated Hussain in a one-sided final of two sessions, winning 11-0 to roars of approval from the home crowd.
Kumar had taken just 46 seconds

Vinod Ji · Post by **Vinod Ji** » 06 Oct 2010 18:20

^^^^ rest from above.. ""(rgsrini Naughty Boy

!!)

Kumar had taken just 46 seconds to demolish Sri Lanka’s Smanel Kumara Yaparathna Mudeyanselage in his first match before overcoming Promise Mwenga of Canada in the semi-final.

Kumar had said before his performance he was preparing a game plan and expected to win.

“I’m in good form and I’m trying to save my energy for the finals,” he said.

Promise Mwenga of Canada won the bronze in a tense bout against Sunday Sanni of Nigeria.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 06 Oct 2010 19:36

Mortar explosion kills one, injure two in Bannu

BANNU: The mortar explosion has killed one and injured two others, SAMAA reported Wednesday.

According to the details, three people found a mortar from Shahbaz Azmat Khel area of Bannu. They tried to break the mortar but it suddenly exploded killing one, Sajjad Ali, on the spot and injuring two others.

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 06 Oct 2010 20:49

Amber G. wrote:^^^ wrt to post of harbans above , please check out today's informative blog by pundita.
Pundita explains reality to Rachel Maddow and the Pakistanis to Gen. Petraeus ...
Read it in full and comment!

Part-2 "Stay out of the Bazaar"

http://pundita.blogspot.com/2010/10/sta ... s-her.html

So what to do? The answer is obvious, if you ask yourself what you would do if every time you came home from what you thought was your smashing success at haggling in a bazaar, and found you'd greatly overpaid.

If you tell me, 'First I'd picket the bazaar with a sign that reads STOP UNFAIR BUSINESS PRACTICES, then I'd propose legislation to get price tags on everything,' then you and I can't have a conversation on account of we inhabit two different galaxies.

But for readers in this solar system, remember the aim. The aim is not to fix Pakistan or change the Pakistanis or get the Afghans and Pakistanis to get along.

The aim is to thin the forest of terrorists in Afghanistan. This is done by stopping all assistance that helps the Pakistan military support terrorist gangs operating in Afghanistan.

The only way to work intelligently on the aim is to stop sending Pakistan's leaders mixed signals. Please understand that for most people in this world it's a mixed signal if you keep giving them money while shouting at them that they need to change their behavior.

That kind of mixed signal is telling the Pakistanis that you still want to be a player, that you want to hang out in the bazaar and try to beat them at their own game no matter how many times you're beaten up.

Once Washington stops sending mixed signals, Pakistan's leaders, being grown-ups in full possession of their faculties, will adjust their behavior on their own, if they weigh the power they want in Afghanistan against close relations with the USA, then decide America is a friend worth keeping.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 06 Oct 2010 21:00

vic wrote:
Obama and his team has no capibility to manupulate Pakis.

He does. A few daisy cutters is all that it takes and Kiyani will be trembling in his undies. Of course, there is no public apetit in US for another war, and thats the ambivalence TSP is exploiting. Furthermore, there is a signficant section in US, no matter what they say in public, and aided of course by India's 5th columnist scum, that TSP should not be weakened beyond a point for fear of "Hindu India" dominating.

I strongly feel that Mush has offered to replace Zardari on the promise that he will reel in Pak army and end terrorism in Afghanistan and India .

Was the bolded part some kind of a dream or delusion? TSP terror against India on US radar screen? You must have been joking or perhaphs downed an extra peg or two?

. Right now, from denials to "extremists on both sides", US is openly claiming that TSP has a legitimate right to use LET against India, and its the white man's duty to "fix" TSP's grievances (read demands) with India, and you are speculating that US actually wants TSP to end terror against India. Doesn't add up or make sense. If US uses the LET card against TSP, TSP will become even more recalcitrant.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 06 Oct 2010 21:01

bhutto was making similar noises during her come back tour... just before she had her date with the sun roof lever... there is a constituency in pak willing to bury the hatchet (atleast temporarily)

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Oct 2010 21:25

A case of pot calling kettle black or look who is talking!

A Q Khan is characterless:Mushy

...
“Mr (A.Q.) Khan is a characterless man,” Musharraf told German magazine Der Spiegel when asked about the scientist who was put on house arrest on charges of proliferation of nuclear technologies to “rogue” countries.
....

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 06 Oct 2010 21:39

Pak, Indian interior ministers reaffirm anti-terror fight

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... ght+-fa-02

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 06 Oct 2010 21:42

America's image problem in Pakistan

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... n_pakistan

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Oct 2010 21:48

abhishek_sharma wrote:Pak, Indian interior ministers reaffirm anti-terror fight

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... ght+-fa-02

Same news with the PTI headline:

Pakistan ready to help India in safeguarding Commonwealth Games, says Rehman Malik

The Pakis should stop incrimnating themselves. First it was Msuhy now its the Paki Interior Minister!

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 06 Oct 2010 21:59

ramana wrote:A case of pot calling kettle black or look who is talking!

...
“Mr (A.Q.) Khan is a characterless man,”

Now ChorKhan will call General MUgly (of "mango plucking childhood") "an impotent man" for not launching a few he smuggled out of North Korea.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 06 Oct 2010 22:13

Dilbu wrote:Pak not doing enough to eliminate terrorists: US
Pakistan is not doing enough to combat terrorists and extremists in its restive tribal belt where some of the most wanted insurgents are hiding, says a new White House report, which also censured President Asif Ali Zardari's leadership.

"The Pakistan military continued to avoid military engagements that would put it in direct conflict with the Afghan Taliban or the al-Qaeda forces in North Waziristan," the 'Wall Street Journal' reported citing the 27-page White House report which is to be given to Congress.

The declassified report seen by the 'Journal' also expressed concerns about Pakistan's refusal to send more troops to the lawless tribal area, which is believed to be hiding some of the most wanted insurgents who are attacking American troops in Pakistan.

"This is as much a political choice as it is a reflection of an under-resourced military prioritising its targets," the report said.

It is strange why they say these things because in August they were perfectly happy with Pakis

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/08/us ... -uavs.html

Will be attending a briefing tomorrow morning by US Under Secretary of Defence for Policy, Michèle Flournoy, visiting Delhi to push forward Indo-US defence cooperation. She arrived in the city after giving the Pakistan Army a rousing round of encouragement in Islamabad two days ago. "There's no doubt about Pakistan's commitment to the war on terror," she said there.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 06 Oct 2010 22:15

Rumor is that Dilli is contemplating coming out with a strong statement in support of Pakistan's right to base its troops on its eastern borders only.
/snark.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Oct 2010 22:17

Now that Musharraf has called Xerox Khan a 'characterless person', wait for Xerox Khan's abuse of Gola and may be even some revelations.

Get some pop-chshalli!

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 06 Oct 2010 22:23

hnair wrote:A case of pot calling kettle black or look who is talking!

..
“Mr (A.Q.) Khan is a characterless man,”

Now ChorKhan will call General MUgly (of "mango plucking childhood") "an impotent man" for not launching a few he smuggled out of North Korea.

This "AQ Khan is a characterless man" remark from Mushy might be a response to recent "Mera gaadi ka door kholta tha" remark made by chor khan on gola in some recent interview....

these paki bigwigs remind me of a bunch of rogue teenagers cursing and swearing at each other....no sense of maturity at all...

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 06 Oct 2010 22:55

US drone strike kills 6 militants in northwest Pak

Press TV for the first time is using this kind of title : Unauthorized US attack kills 6 Pakistanis

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 06 Oct 2010 23:27

Singha wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/06/world ... ss&emc=rss

supply trucks attacked again. who will blink first? I predict the US will cave in and hand over another $1b

Right on money! Truely pathetic!

US apologises for deadly Pakistan helicopter raid

The US and Nato have apologised for a recent helicopter attack that killed at least two Pakistani soldiers near the Afghan border.
US envoy to Pakistan Anne Patterson said her country offered its deepest apology, while Nato's Gen David Petraeus vowed to work to stop similar incidents happening in the future.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Oct 2010 23:29

Apparently a "joint inquiry" has established that upon hearing an "engagement" nearby, the Pakis fired "warning shots" which was mistaken by NATO as covering fire for the Taliban.

I guess NATO then fired "warning missiles" in response

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 06 Oct 2010 23:30

just like in paki marriages it seems jihadis are also inbreeding with their coujins

Briton killed in Pakistan linked to failed NY bomber

A British man killed by a U.S. drone strike in Pakistan had ties with the would-be Times Square bomber, a Pakistani intelligence official said on Wednesday.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Oct 2010 23:31

Singha wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/06/world ... ss&emc=rss
supply trucks attacked again. who will blink first? I predict the US will cave in and hand over another $1b

Dipanker wrote:Right on money! Truely pathetic!

It is not as innocent and straightforward as it looks. Only 50% of NATO fuel goes through Pakistan (down from 85% a year ago) and NATO is well stocked. All this "trucking through Pakistan" is just additional money given by Unkil to Jernails and their trucking companies. The Logistics problem for A'stan is solved -- with or without Pakistan.

Dont believe all this eyewash.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Oct 2010 23:43

Anujan ji,

could you give some more information on the supply side of ISAF and US troops, how much of it goes through Pakistan and how much through other routes, and which other routes. Some links would also be appreciated.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Oct 2010 23:44

Brad Goodman wrote:just like in paki marriages it seems jihadis are also inbreeding with their coujins

Briton killed in Pakistan linked to failed NY bomber

A British man killed by a U.S. drone strike in Pakistan had ties with the would-be Times Square bomber, a Pakistani intelligence official said on Wednesday.

Bet this 'Briton' was offered up as drone sacrifice to coincide with sentencing.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 06 Oct 2010 23:44

Midnight’s other children

How does Pakistan's new literature in English differ from India's?

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Midni ... ren/693164

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 07 Oct 2010 00:47

RajeshA wrote:Anujan ji,

could you give some more information on the supply side of ISAF and US troops, how much of it goes through Pakistan and how much through other routes, and which other routes. Some links would also be appreciated.

From what I have heard, about 40% of 'critical supplies' - eg fuel etc goes through Pakistan...(Many main steam sources have quoted figures of less than 50% for the current level)

Here is a Paki source which quotes "highly-informed diplomatic sources in Islamabad" as

almost 75 per cent of ammunition, vehicles, foodstuff and around 50 per cent of fuel

US may abandon Pak-Afghan supply route

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 07 Oct 2010 00:49

how credible is the alleged plot for a mumbai like attack on western cities? the stepped up drone activity, posturing from US admins, news of western passport holders being killed, western and even a Japanese warning issued for EU cities, arrests in France and Germany(?)..

were those arrested in EU countries, Pakis or Paki descendants?

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 07 Oct 2010 00:59

Though nominally "Indian", this TSPian in disguise adds to our Pak-lexicon with a new word - "Earthmetic"

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 07 Oct 2010 02:16

@acorn tweet
Cutting through all the spin, IMF has refused to release funds to Pakistan

http://beta.brecorder.com/section/41/1/ ... nment.html
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... ut-imf-400

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 07 Oct 2010 02:47

Gus wrote:how credible is the alleged plot for a mumbai like attack on western cities? the stepped up drone activity, posturing from US admins, news of western passport holders being killed, western and even a Japanese warning issued for EU cities, arrests in France and Germany(?)..

were those arrested in EU countries, Pakis or Paki descendants?

As credible as the rumor is that MMS will get tough with TSP

.

I read in the NYT or somewhere, even Americans don't take these exaggarated threats seriously. I was listening to one CNN moutpiece treating Americans like kids, faithfully repeating all the do's & don't (hold your bag this way, comb your hair that way and other trivial stuff that will make you laugh) that somone fed her. These "threats" will keep "terrorism experts" like Peter Bergen gainfully employed.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 07 Oct 2010 03:03

^^^

Why are the threats not credible?

The threat is always there. Sometimes when the intelligence agencies notice some heightened activity and get some hints from their HUMINT or COMINT sources, they put out such public announcements.

We have seen 9/11 (NYC), 11/3 (Madrid), 7/7 (London), 26/11 (Mumbai), etc., so for what reason should one doubt these warnings?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 07 Oct 2010 03:51

Rangudu wrote:Though nominally "Indian", this TSPian in disguise adds to our Pak-lexicon with a new word - "Earthmetic"

Good god!!!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Oct 2010 04:00

RajeshA wrote:^^^

Why are the threats not credible?

The threat is always there. Sometimes when the intelligence agencies notice some heightened activity and get some hints from their HUMINT or COMINT sources, they put out such public announcements.

We have seen 9/11 (NYC), 11/3 (Madrid), 7/7 (London), 26/11 (Mumbai), etc., so for what reason should one doubt these warnings?

A key differentiator/marker in all those and Mumbai was the active role of David Headley who was an American agent (who got US immunity later to prevent him from falling into Indian hands) working with and for the ISI/LET in active scoping of the targets and even selecting targets. This aspect is what made Mumbai attack so deadly. A US-ISI/LET double agent who got US protection after the attack. Why we don't know.

So when the West screams hoarse of Mumbai like attacks on itself, its just self-falgellating like a Shia dervish and fooling its own citizens.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Oct 2010 06:30

abhishek_sharma wrote:Midnight’s other children

How does Pakistan's new literature in English differ from India's?

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Midni ... ren/693164

Interesting. I was unaware of a magazine called "Granta" - clearly derived from Samskrut "grantha"

Karna_A · Post by **Karna_A** » 07 Oct 2010 06:36

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 702512.cms

But US officials say they are by prior arrangement. In fact, a Pentagon official said the Pakistanis do not get paid until the supplies, mainly fuel, is delivered to the point of destination in Afghanistan. "So they have incentive to protect the convoys, to make sure that the situation is such that they can get to their destination safely," Pentagon's Morrell said.

The suspicion in Washington – and even among some Pakistani experts – is that the attacks on Nato convoys are being engineered by the Pakistani intelligence community, possibly renegade elements among them. "'Militants' torched Nato supplies in Shikarpur and Islamabad two nights apart? Tell me another. Who in heaven are we trying to fool?" Kamran Shafi, a Pakistani analyst known for his trenchant views on the military state, said in his column in Dawn newspaper.

TSP as usual is biting beyond what it can chew. In fact it has been chewing itself for last 60 years, more rapidly since last 2 decades.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 07 Oct 2010 06:43

LeT steps up targeting of Indian citizens, interests in Afghanistan

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 703304.cms

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 07 Oct 2010 06:45

U.S. Apologizes as Attacks in Pakistan Continue

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/world ... pstan.html

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 07 Oct 2010 06:50

A picture speaks a thousand words! Not for the first time have Poakis placed our flag upside down, and this time by the "beloved" Paki RAPEs whom our desi "aman ki aasha" crowd so adore!

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Oct 2010 06:59

shravan wrote:US drone strike kills 6 militants in northwest Pak

Press TV for the first time is using this kind of title : Unauthorized US attack kills 6 Pakistanis

Speaking of article titles, this one in Weasel Zippers is amusing

:

The Ass Kicking Continues: CIA Carries Out Two Airstrikes on al-Qaeda Targets in Pakistan, 9 Killed…

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Oct 2010 07:26

shiv wrote:
r_subramanian wrote:Is Pakistan's per capita income $2,600? Let us do some quick calculation. Its population is variously stated to be between 160 million to 180 million. Its GDP is below $200 billion (closer to $160 billion). That gives a per capita income figure of around $1,000 (at most)

Well this is Pakistaniyat for you. What you would flush down the toilet without a second glance is preserved and propagated as sacred by Pakistanis.

The World Bank has released 2009 statistics on Sept 27, 2010.

Gross Domestic Product (GDP) for 2009 is here: ( GDP)

Gross National Income (GNI) - Atlas Method for 2009 is here: (GNI)

Per Capita Gross National Income - Atlas Method and Per Capita Gross National Income - Purchasing Power Parity Method for 2009 is here: (GNIPC)

Population in 2009 is here : (POP)

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 07 Oct 2010 07:39

U.S. Tries to Calm Pakistan Over Airstrike on Its Border

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/world ... diplo.html

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 07 Oct 2010 08:12

Gus wrote:how credible is the alleged plot for a mumbai like attack on western cities? the stepped up drone activity, posturing from US admins, news of western passport holders being killed, western and even a Japanese warning issued for EU cities, arrests in France and Germany(?)..

Even if its not credible,they are putting up one hell of a show. Their sound and light show is 400% better than our own CWG opening ceremony with real "fireworks". Dont you think!
Lets suppose there is some truth in the plot,then definite outcome of this show is US will opt for a regime change in Pak. Either way I am OK with it.